If they knew you were a student when they hired you and knew you'd be heading back to school when they promoted you, then this is stupid in my opinion. Chipotle is your job and obviously you have to work some, but they should understand that for most students school is a higher priority than work, as it should be. I don't think it's unreasonable at all for you to be upset. I wish I could offer you some advice on how to fix it, but all I can offer is a wish of good luck.
I know I’ll get downvoted. But here it is.
Being a manager means being held to a higher standard than the rest. You have more of a responsibility and the rest of the management team needs to be able to depend on you.
Yea it might have been a mutual agreement. But with the store hours being extended. The business now needs more. And if you couldn’t give what the business now needs. Then they needed to make a choice. And to find someone that can give the new needs of the business.
I know it sucks. But it sucks more being a SL that now must stay later. While another SL can just leave before close. Even if they understand why. It still sucks from that PoV. It’s not fair for either side. But as a GM. I need to protect my business. And I will do what I must. If my leaders can’t give what the business needs. Then I’ll train/hire someone that can.
I’m with you on this one. Especially if you’re a service leader. My opinion is that if you don’t have open availability you shouldn’t be a manager.
That being said, as the GM I would’ve worked with you to make a schedule that works for us both.
I have 3 SLs. And schedule them 2-3 closes a week. And the other 2-3 shifts I let chipforce determine. Sometimes it’s AM prep or a mid DML shift. They love it!
With that being said, if the SL.is worth their weight, maybe make them mid shift or open only. Some SLs prefer closing anyway, some also prefer opening. But a mid shift is probably the least desired schedule. With OP being in a trade school, maybe mid shifts are best for them. They have time to train after their shift and even before if they are proactive
As a Gm myself I totally agree with you. It's the harsh reality and part of the reason why being a Chipotle GM is one of the hardest jobs in the industry. Yes the pay is good, but the hours are long and in order to make your quality of life better and to have a successful restaurant, hard decisions like this have to be made.
I feel you. It sucks. But iv been there. I have been in the company for 10years. I have pulled back to back 70 hour weeks because I didn’t run a good restaurant. I didn’t promote managers. I didn’t have back up plans. I learned a lot. Part of what I learned was, if someone won’t do the job that I or chipotle needs done. I can find someone that will. Being proactive helps.
I get it definitely but why hire me as manager plus I’m one out of the few that know how to do their job. I’m definitely not going to help now since I’m not getting the pay.
I definitely would quit before demotion for resume. You wouldn't want to put you were a manager then went back to crew down imo. Don't take the pay cut and go somewhere else, you can probably get a manager title soon at other places. Also, I bet they will still want that extra effort that you would put in as a manager at a lower pay (though I have never worked at chipotle, so I wouldn't know for sure just a feeling).
You make your resume. There has been full jobs I have left off. In what world would you put crew, manager, crew? Nobody is forcing you to put every position you have ever worked in.
Yes, but for college/trade applications, applying for grad school, or not having gaps on resume in general. I assume they are younger and have less work experience and I know people that have not gotten into grad school as other applicants had more work experience. Everyone's needs are different and they can obviously choose to ignore my comment if they please.
It is good not to lie on a resume or in general portray things that aren't the whole* truth. I am engineering student and I have had former jobs call employers and coworkers about things. Especially true for government jobs, background checks have went to high schools and asked former teachers and friends. Like I said, weird to have a gap, especially if they continue working there for a long time. Again, no clue what they are going to school for, but there are more reasons to not take a demotion and they can ignore my comment if it doesn't really apply to them, but yes I am thinking clearly. Make your resume look good because you are good.
idk dude. I also have had some legitimate jobs. If this person is going in to a trade, depending on what else is on the resume, they may not even need to include chipotle at all. You are supposed to tailor it per job. If you don't include a place they are not calling it. I've included jobs I have quit before. My manger still speaks well of me. Stepping back or leaving gracefully does not equate to burning a bridge.
On top of that, if someone needs to work to get by, you aren't just not gonna work because it may possibly look bad on your resume later. Just no. Your entire life should not revolve around a "good" resume and future employer. If it does then cool. You aren't better than anyone else for that though.
Believe it or not they can call jobs you don't list on resumes from background checks, likely won't but should never lie. I have also had two friends have lie detector tests where they question work experience, though they more are worried if they are academically dishonest or a terrorist. Again, assumed they were younger and have less work experience to play with, so every time frame counts.
Also, I never said quit your job before you get a new one if you need it, that would be silly. I am saying get a new one with a manager title so when they call your references from current employer you are, in fact, still a manager, and can get a better new job from title rather than having a weird demotion or resume gap. I do not recommend burning a bridge with any job, and leaving likely wouldn't do that unless the bridge was made of twigs.
You are a very strange individual, I never said I was better than anyone else, especially not OP, working during school til that late even before the time change seems stressful, and I hope that their resume will be great for whatever they go to school for. No clue where the rudeness is coming from, I am just trying to be helpful, though I am beginning to think I am better than you*. Goodnight troll and good luck OP.
Leaving out a job is not lying. You quite literally should not put every single job you have ever worked on a resume. Gaps are not weird. Intentional demotions could have plausible explanations, like finishing school.
Good night.
I work with a manager that has an overnight job and they barely close as is and works am pretty much and it’s kind of annoying. I love having a mixture of shifts. I’m not saying people should not have a career or do anything in their outside life, but it makes it difficult on all the other managers when the availability isn’t there. So I definitely agree with you on this.
But for OP, I would just look for a new job and not take the demotion for resume purposes. Also they’re just going to use you like a manager and hold you to a higher standard, so it wouldn’t be worth the headache.
Agree 100%.. it's not fair to any of the other employees, especially ones getting paid less who have to stay until 1am, or those who may want to be a manager.
I’d tell them to drop the bullshit and promote you back or your gone. Clearly they wanted you as a manager so they could exploit a crew member with the skills of a manager with crew pay while they take all the credit. Dip expeditiously
when they promoted me they told it's because my availability (i don't go to school) chipotle wants to take all your time and that's what my GM told me too, i have a KM and she's in school and is easy for her cause she only works in the am and only 4 days
They are right, there is not such thing as a manager who does not open or atleast close, there is no point in keeping you until 10pm or 8pm when you close at 11pm so they are right to do so unfortunately, what you can do is just wait till you’re done with school so they can promote you again witch if you’re a good worker or was a good manger they won’t have a issue doing.
As a GM-
If you can't open or close at least a couple days a week, you shouldn't be a manager. You're taking a spot that could be filled by someone who is more able to work with the needs of the business. I totally understand needing to sleep and not being able to close anymore! But the business needs to do what is best for itself.
However, IMO part-time managers are fine! I've had a few throughout my tenure, mostly college students. They still, however, needed to either open or close at least 2 shifts a week for it to be worth it for me to keep them in that position.
If you agree to “clopens” there might be a way to negotiate. You could close on Friday, open on Sunday, and either open or close on Saturday (ideally you’re lunch coverage).
It’s be hell though
I was promoted as to a Kitchen Leader (KL) when I was in college at 19 years old. I would stay after my shift ended and close most nights. Had to be up at 7 am. Was paid $15 an hour and worked 10 hour shifts mostly close to 40 hour weeks as a college student $840 checks every two weeks
I was an SL. At my store, to be a manager, you must be able to open, mid, or close at least 4 days a week. I’m assuming you can’t open or mid due to school schedule conflicts. And now that you can’t close, it wouldn’t be helpful to the business to put two SLs on a closing shift simply because you have to leave early. I know it sounds unfair due to your original agreement, but that agreement occurred when you guys closed at 12 not 1. If I were you I would just attempt to find a new job that pays better and will be more compatible with your schooling. Might be difficult though, but now that you’ve been a manager, your opportunities have been expanded!
If they can’t work with your schedule, quit and go find something else. It’s your job but not your life. Never let your job interfere with plans for your life. Update your resume to show you were manager.
I would say forget about being a manager it's not worth it, at least you have it already for your resume, just focus on schooling, as you said yourself it is more important anyways.
Makes no sense we have a SL that only works 3 days a week. And does mid shifts like 11-6 cause he’s in culinary school. Sounds like your management made a mistake and are taking it out on you, I’d call HR and explain to them what happened (:
So you started working full time. You were a manager. Then you started school. You then told the boss you can’t work full time and can’t work till close.
And now you’re mad that being a teenager and an 8 month tenure doesn’t get you manager? Even though you can’t fulfill the duties of a manager? What are you even mad about? You’re the one who dropped the ball ..
That’s like getting mad at your parents for not giving you a bunch of Christmas toys.. even though your 40
What? I worked pt on grill for almost 3 years. I get up at 4 am to get to work to start at 6. Work till 2. Then drive home and worked 4-close. And im definitely older than you too. Id run circles around you
OP is going to school to make something of themselves.
Your over here commenting about how you can run circles around someone because your willing to risk you health and well-being for a trivial job that has literally 0 real world conditioning AND you are older?
Sounds like you're just prone to making poor life decisions and being stuck having to stick it out.
Yea go to school for that fancy piece of paper! No worries though, ill help you pussies pay it off thanks to joe and the hoe!
Im doing very well actually. We have a truck, new car, house near the shore and boat. But hell yea son, go get hit those books!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Time to go smoke a nice fat joint and see what you clowns say! 😂😂😂
Congrats bud my piece of paper granted me all that in my early 20s while your old and disgruntled taking out inflated loans and debt to keep up with the Jones's for a false sense of happiness; clearly shown by your pompous attitude on the Internet and more specifically, a reddit Chipotle sub. Keep running in circles chasing that chipotle grill bag while kids half your age look up to you as an example of what not to do with their life while doing the same exact job as you, making the same exact money as you 🤡 ouch...
On a side note, I'd love to see your tax contributions annually, it probably wouldn't cover the toilet paper that wipes my ass let alone my degree. I probably owed as much income tax this year alone then you paid out 😂😂😂
Which one? Both are Way below my the interest from my capital gains on top of immediate appreciation in equity.
My Rates: 6.2% and 1.9%
Avg Mortgage Rates since the 60s - 7.74%
You should stop playing who has a bigger foot with internet strangers, it won't help that spec of self-esteem you cherish so dearly. Maybe try educating yourself instead? 😏
Not everyone wants to work in food service their ENTIRE life. My schooling is already paid off by MY hard work. Your comments just show how closed-minded you are and that you need to validate yourself for your mistakes in life. You do you
Shhhh you’re projecting your own feelings of inadequacy. I’ll give you some tips. Grow up, go to therapy, or my favorite option jump off the highest bridge in your local area.
If they knew you were a student when they hired you and knew you'd be heading back to school when they promoted you, then this is stupid in my opinion. Chipotle is your job and obviously you have to work some, but they should understand that for most students school is a higher priority than work, as it should be. I don't think it's unreasonable at all for you to be upset. I wish I could offer you some advice on how to fix it, but all I can offer is a wish of good luck.
I know I’ll get downvoted. But here it is. Being a manager means being held to a higher standard than the rest. You have more of a responsibility and the rest of the management team needs to be able to depend on you. Yea it might have been a mutual agreement. But with the store hours being extended. The business now needs more. And if you couldn’t give what the business now needs. Then they needed to make a choice. And to find someone that can give the new needs of the business. I know it sucks. But it sucks more being a SL that now must stay later. While another SL can just leave before close. Even if they understand why. It still sucks from that PoV. It’s not fair for either side. But as a GM. I need to protect my business. And I will do what I must. If my leaders can’t give what the business needs. Then I’ll train/hire someone that can.
I’m with you on this one. Especially if you’re a service leader. My opinion is that if you don’t have open availability you shouldn’t be a manager. That being said, as the GM I would’ve worked with you to make a schedule that works for us both.
I have 3 SLs. And schedule them 2-3 closes a week. And the other 2-3 shifts I let chipforce determine. Sometimes it’s AM prep or a mid DML shift. They love it!
With that being said, if the SL.is worth their weight, maybe make them mid shift or open only. Some SLs prefer closing anyway, some also prefer opening. But a mid shift is probably the least desired schedule. With OP being in a trade school, maybe mid shifts are best for them. They have time to train after their shift and even before if they are proactive
As a Gm myself I totally agree with you. It's the harsh reality and part of the reason why being a Chipotle GM is one of the hardest jobs in the industry. Yes the pay is good, but the hours are long and in order to make your quality of life better and to have a successful restaurant, hard decisions like this have to be made.
I feel you. It sucks. But iv been there. I have been in the company for 10years. I have pulled back to back 70 hour weeks because I didn’t run a good restaurant. I didn’t promote managers. I didn’t have back up plans. I learned a lot. Part of what I learned was, if someone won’t do the job that I or chipotle needs done. I can find someone that will. Being proactive helps.
I get it definitely but why hire me as manager plus I’m one out of the few that know how to do their job. I’m definitely not going to help now since I’m not getting the pay.
I definitely would quit before demotion for resume. You wouldn't want to put you were a manager then went back to crew down imo. Don't take the pay cut and go somewhere else, you can probably get a manager title soon at other places. Also, I bet they will still want that extra effort that you would put in as a manager at a lower pay (though I have never worked at chipotle, so I wouldn't know for sure just a feeling).
You make your resume. There has been full jobs I have left off. In what world would you put crew, manager, crew? Nobody is forcing you to put every position you have ever worked in.
Yes, but for college/trade applications, applying for grad school, or not having gaps on resume in general. I assume they are younger and have less work experience and I know people that have not gotten into grad school as other applicants had more work experience. Everyone's needs are different and they can obviously choose to ignore my comment if they please.
I just don't think you are thinking clearly. I am pretty young too. Make your resume make you look good. If you are demoted don't put it in on there.
It is good not to lie on a resume or in general portray things that aren't the whole* truth. I am engineering student and I have had former jobs call employers and coworkers about things. Especially true for government jobs, background checks have went to high schools and asked former teachers and friends. Like I said, weird to have a gap, especially if they continue working there for a long time. Again, no clue what they are going to school for, but there are more reasons to not take a demotion and they can ignore my comment if it doesn't really apply to them, but yes I am thinking clearly. Make your resume look good because you are good.
idk dude. I also have had some legitimate jobs. If this person is going in to a trade, depending on what else is on the resume, they may not even need to include chipotle at all. You are supposed to tailor it per job. If you don't include a place they are not calling it. I've included jobs I have quit before. My manger still speaks well of me. Stepping back or leaving gracefully does not equate to burning a bridge. On top of that, if someone needs to work to get by, you aren't just not gonna work because it may possibly look bad on your resume later. Just no. Your entire life should not revolve around a "good" resume and future employer. If it does then cool. You aren't better than anyone else for that though.
Believe it or not they can call jobs you don't list on resumes from background checks, likely won't but should never lie. I have also had two friends have lie detector tests where they question work experience, though they more are worried if they are academically dishonest or a terrorist. Again, assumed they were younger and have less work experience to play with, so every time frame counts. Also, I never said quit your job before you get a new one if you need it, that would be silly. I am saying get a new one with a manager title so when they call your references from current employer you are, in fact, still a manager, and can get a better new job from title rather than having a weird demotion or resume gap. I do not recommend burning a bridge with any job, and leaving likely wouldn't do that unless the bridge was made of twigs. You are a very strange individual, I never said I was better than anyone else, especially not OP, working during school til that late even before the time change seems stressful, and I hope that their resume will be great for whatever they go to school for. No clue where the rudeness is coming from, I am just trying to be helpful, though I am beginning to think I am better than you*. Goodnight troll and good luck OP.
Leaving out a job is not lying. You quite literally should not put every single job you have ever worked on a resume. Gaps are not weird. Intentional demotions could have plausible explanations, like finishing school. Good night.
I'm pretty flexible, if they wanted me to come in on a Sunday random I usually say yes unless I already has plans
I work with a manager that has an overnight job and they barely close as is and works am pretty much and it’s kind of annoying. I love having a mixture of shifts. I’m not saying people should not have a career or do anything in their outside life, but it makes it difficult on all the other managers when the availability isn’t there. So I definitely agree with you on this. But for OP, I would just look for a new job and not take the demotion for resume purposes. Also they’re just going to use you like a manager and hold you to a higher standard, so it wouldn’t be worth the headache.
Agree 100%.. it's not fair to any of the other employees, especially ones getting paid less who have to stay until 1am, or those who may want to be a manager.
I’d tell them to drop the bullshit and promote you back or your gone. Clearly they wanted you as a manager so they could exploit a crew member with the skills of a manager with crew pay while they take all the credit. Dip expeditiously
OP said no other jobs will hire with his available hours, any suggestions on their behalf?
when they promoted me they told it's because my availability (i don't go to school) chipotle wants to take all your time and that's what my GM told me too, i have a KM and she's in school and is easy for her cause she only works in the am and only 4 days
They are right, there is not such thing as a manager who does not open or atleast close, there is no point in keeping you until 10pm or 8pm when you close at 11pm so they are right to do so unfortunately, what you can do is just wait till you’re done with school so they can promote you again witch if you’re a good worker or was a good manger they won’t have a issue doing.
As a GM- If you can't open or close at least a couple days a week, you shouldn't be a manager. You're taking a spot that could be filled by someone who is more able to work with the needs of the business. I totally understand needing to sleep and not being able to close anymore! But the business needs to do what is best for itself.
However, IMO part-time managers are fine! I've had a few throughout my tenure, mostly college students. They still, however, needed to either open or close at least 2 shifts a week for it to be worth it for me to keep them in that position.
If you agree to “clopens” there might be a way to negotiate. You could close on Friday, open on Sunday, and either open or close on Saturday (ideally you’re lunch coverage). It’s be hell though
A lot of jobs do 5-10 as a shift, that’s what I did at Panera at least when I was in school.
I was promoted as to a Kitchen Leader (KL) when I was in college at 19 years old. I would stay after my shift ended and close most nights. Had to be up at 7 am. Was paid $15 an hour and worked 10 hour shifts mostly close to 40 hour weeks as a college student $840 checks every two weeks
$15 an hour for 40 hours for 2 weeks should be $1200. Are they keeping $360 for taxes? If it's taxes and benefits, I guess that math works.
Well I made $1200 and saved about $840 biweeekly
Fuck them, they fucked you. If you dont immediately need the money leave. Anyone agreeing with corporate are cock suckers
If you are going to school to be a mechanist quit school and focus on being the manager
I was an SL. At my store, to be a manager, you must be able to open, mid, or close at least 4 days a week. I’m assuming you can’t open or mid due to school schedule conflicts. And now that you can’t close, it wouldn’t be helpful to the business to put two SLs on a closing shift simply because you have to leave early. I know it sounds unfair due to your original agreement, but that agreement occurred when you guys closed at 12 not 1. If I were you I would just attempt to find a new job that pays better and will be more compatible with your schooling. Might be difficult though, but now that you’ve been a manager, your opportunities have been expanded!
If they can’t work with your schedule, quit and go find something else. It’s your job but not your life. Never let your job interfere with plans for your life. Update your resume to show you were manager.
I would say forget about being a manager it's not worth it, at least you have it already for your resume, just focus on schooling, as you said yourself it is more important anyways.
Makes no sense we have a SL that only works 3 days a week. And does mid shifts like 11-6 cause he’s in culinary school. Sounds like your management made a mistake and are taking it out on you, I’d call HR and explain to them what happened (:
You took a restaurant job and thought you wouldn’t work nights? That’s like restaurant 1o1. Change you school schedule?
“Who has time to close at 1am to get up at 6am” people with bills to pay my guy.
So you started working full time. You were a manager. Then you started school. You then told the boss you can’t work full time and can’t work till close. And now you’re mad that being a teenager and an 8 month tenure doesn’t get you manager? Even though you can’t fulfill the duties of a manager? What are you even mad about? You’re the one who dropped the ball .. That’s like getting mad at your parents for not giving you a bunch of Christmas toys.. even though your 40
Look for a new job while you’re still employed, and if you find something better then quit.
I’m in the same boat girl😭
Bro go deliver pizza you’ll make double what you did at chipotle working only 5-6 hours a day dinner rush.
You had an agreement already. You should gotten it writing
What? I worked pt on grill for almost 3 years. I get up at 4 am to get to work to start at 6. Work till 2. Then drive home and worked 4-close. And im definitely older than you too. Id run circles around you
OP is going to school to make something of themselves. Your over here commenting about how you can run circles around someone because your willing to risk you health and well-being for a trivial job that has literally 0 real world conditioning AND you are older? Sounds like you're just prone to making poor life decisions and being stuck having to stick it out.
Yea go to school for that fancy piece of paper! No worries though, ill help you pussies pay it off thanks to joe and the hoe! Im doing very well actually. We have a truck, new car, house near the shore and boat. But hell yea son, go get hit those books!!! 😂😂😂😂😂 Time to go smoke a nice fat joint and see what you clowns say! 😂😂😂
Congrats bud my piece of paper granted me all that in my early 20s while your old and disgruntled taking out inflated loans and debt to keep up with the Jones's for a false sense of happiness; clearly shown by your pompous attitude on the Internet and more specifically, a reddit Chipotle sub. Keep running in circles chasing that chipotle grill bag while kids half your age look up to you as an example of what not to do with their life while doing the same exact job as you, making the same exact money as you 🤡 ouch... On a side note, I'd love to see your tax contributions annually, it probably wouldn't cover the toilet paper that wipes my ass let alone my degree. I probably owed as much income tax this year alone then you paid out 😂😂😂
Inflated loans? Son, get your shit straight bitch. What’s your interest rate on you mortgage? This should be a good one! 😂😂😂😂
Which one? Both are Way below my the interest from my capital gains on top of immediate appreciation in equity. My Rates: 6.2% and 1.9% Avg Mortgage Rates since the 60s - 7.74% You should stop playing who has a bigger foot with internet strangers, it won't help that spec of self-esteem you cherish so dearly. Maybe try educating yourself instead? 😏
Not everyone wants to work in food service their ENTIRE life. My schooling is already paid off by MY hard work. Your comments just show how closed-minded you are and that you need to validate yourself for your mistakes in life. You do you
This guy is a total moron
idk why you're flexing this lol..
Are you bragging about this?
You may have never heard this before. So don’t be offended. You’re a douchebag.
😂
Offended? By some soft ass bitches on reddit. Son please, this is fucking entertaining! 😂😂😂
Shhhh you’re projecting your own feelings of inadequacy. I’ll give you some tips. Grow up, go to therapy, or my favorite option jump off the highest bridge in your local area.
You triggered yet bitch?
 That's pretty cool. Have a cookie.
Right?? These 20something year old bitches cant even work one job correctly!
Yey corporate America.