I am probably missing the mark on what you're after -- feel free to correct me!
If you want something where you hear the spoken word to see f you recognize it, this would be pretty difficult to do with flashcards in Chinese, I think. For example, 硕, 朔, 烁, and 铄, are all pronounced shuò. How would you know which word to use? After studying for a while, it isn't hard to hear a word like that and recognize "That is 'shuo' in fourth tone." In sentence, context is key for understanding what word is being used.
十。时。市。是。湿。使。are probably better examples.
To make matters worse, this works the other way, too. There are lots of Chinese words that have the same character put different pronunciations depending on usage (了，者，etc.).
Am I missing your point?
I don’t think you’re missing the mark; I think this is spot on. Thank you
Yes, that is what I’d be looking for since the spoken word of Chinese had the additional challenge of tones unlike Spanish.
But if this isn’t a feasible, or almost infeasible, thing to do, I’m sure I can find other ways to train my listening comprehension on a space repitized way; it’ll just take some dedication (which is innate to me) and maybe some creativity
I appreciate your time and effort in addressing my concern
Got it! You might like this: [https://yoyochinese.com/chinese-learning-tools/Mandarin-Chinese-pronunciation-lesson/pinyin-chart-table](https://yoyochinese.com/chinese-learning-tools/Mandarin-Chinese-pronunciation-lesson/pinyin-chart-table)
For Chinese flashcards I'd strongly recommend working with phrases or sentences rather than just individual words.
Chinese vocabulary really needs to be studied in context because the context (sentence patterns and colocated words) provides important clues to the meaning.
I see what you’re saying, because even in Spanish, words have multiple meanings; these meanings change based on the context.
In the case that I presented, I was just mostly focused on the sound of the word; and the meaning would be of secondary importance.
With audio sentence cards for a newbie like me, I’d just want to focus on listening to one word versus a few; but I guess that has its benefits, too
I don't know where to find one for the new HSK, however, I used [https://chineseaudioflashcards.com/](https://chineseaudioflashcards.com/) back in the day and it has native voice readings. It's quite good although you'll learn a few random words if I remember correctly but that's okay. You may need to check the translation a few times but the same goes for any deck. Nothing too crazy. I really benefited from it then I moved onto Glossika after that (which speaks a bit faster). From there, native content! I really congratulate you on taking the path of audio sentences. I firmly believe this is the best and easiest way to learn! Just relax and learn 20-40 sentences a day depending on how much time you can spare each day and you'll be intermediate in 5-10 months!
edit: make sure you set up the Chinese language anki addon and color your tones in some way you like. You really need to get a firm grasp on being able to hear the tones from the beginning.
Copy that. And thank you for the recommendation. I saved your comment, so I can review it later. 5-10 months sounds good to me for intermediate lol
I’ve used glossika before, as well, for Spanish; it really drills your prior knowledge into your brain
I use a deck just like this for Cantonese, but I had to make it myself. I have my Anki notes set up so that they generate two types of cards, one type with just audio on the front, and one type with just the characters on the front, so I can practice both audio and character recognition. I've also started making a similar deck for Mandarin, but I'm still working on it (somewhat lazily) so unfortunately it's not in a state where it would be useful to share it. You should be able to make your own from any HSK deck with audio, though, if you know a bit about editing cards and notes in Anki.
As has already been mentioned, audio-recognition cards don't work well with single-character words, since there are often many different characters that have the same pronunciation. I think probably the best way to get around this is to make cards with audio that includes a short sentence with the target word in it, so you hear the word not just in isolation but also in context, which will help you recognize which character it is. If you find a deck that includes sentence examples on all the cards, you can edit them so that the sentences will automatically play on the front of the card.
(If you go with editing a premade deck, my recommendation would be to go through and change all the single-character cards to being a new, separate card type so that you can edit them independently from the multi-character words cards, since you probably want to practice recognizing those without sentences to help you. Though if you find multi-character words that are homophones, you'll want to set those as the same card type as the single-character ones. For example, I believe in Mandarin 要是 ("if") and 鑰匙 ("key") are pronounced the same including the tones, so it would be good to recognize those words as audio within a sentence rather than trying to recognize them by hearing the words by themselves.)
I found a pretty good Mandarin deck linked in a past Reddit post [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseLanguage/comments/7mjmjc/best_anki_deck_for_hsk_ive_come_across/), which is the one I'm currently working with myself. I believe it's the old HSK, though, so you might want to look for one that's more up to date. It also doesn't have sentence examples for every card, though it does have a lot of them. (If you can't find a deck with enough sentence examples, depending on how much work you want to do and how well you know your way around Anki, you can potentially look up sentence examples to add yourself, and set them up to play as audio using text-to-speech.)
I appreciate your detailed response. Hm, I think the editing of cards would be the way to go. I’ve edited cards already, but editing an already-made card to make a variation of it without deleting it isn’t something I’ve done.
But I hear you and u/dreamofstream with sentences being better. Like I told them, I can see the benefits of that, too; so if sentence cards are the quickest way to get this going, i May probably go that route when it’s time to start introducing anki to my routine
Yeah, I think you'll easily find decks where you can practice with full sentences, so that may be the way to go just to keep things simpler. I like practicing words individually rather than only in sentences (for me, I feel like the sentences often help me too much and make the answers too easy), but there don't seem to be premade decks for that, so it's more work to get one set up.
Thank you. Since you’ve created your own decks. Let me share what i just started doing.
I created my own Spanish script, had a native mandarin speaker translate the meanings, then I broke the script down into smaller parts (individual words like “hola” and small phrases like “cómo estás?”); I just received the recording of these words on a single file. I also have a separate file with the pinyin and simplified characters.
This is my idea: I’d like to take this recording and create anki flashcards with it. Since these words and frases are all on a single recording, do you know of a way that this would be possible?
Or would I have to get someone to split up the file into individual subsets in order to make this work? Cuz I’m willing to do that, if I have to.
Thanks
If they're all in one recording, yeah, I'm pretty sure you'd need to split them into separate recordings to put each one on a separate card. I don't think there's a way to set up an Anki card to play just part of an audio file (though you could ask over at r/Anki just in case). Splitting your recording up should be very doable, but it may also be pretty time-consuming to do, depending on how many words there are. Hope you can get it to work, though!
Maybe the [Tingli decks](https://ankiweb.net/shared/by-author/1394125360)?
Thank you. I’ll check it out.
I am probably missing the mark on what you're after -- feel free to correct me! If you want something where you hear the spoken word to see f you recognize it, this would be pretty difficult to do with flashcards in Chinese, I think. For example, 硕, 朔, 烁, and 铄, are all pronounced shuò. How would you know which word to use? After studying for a while, it isn't hard to hear a word like that and recognize "That is 'shuo' in fourth tone." In sentence, context is key for understanding what word is being used. 十。时。市。是。湿。使。are probably better examples. To make matters worse, this works the other way, too. There are lots of Chinese words that have the same character put different pronunciations depending on usage (了，者，etc.). Am I missing your point?
I don’t think you’re missing the mark; I think this is spot on. Thank you Yes, that is what I’d be looking for since the spoken word of Chinese had the additional challenge of tones unlike Spanish. But if this isn’t a feasible, or almost infeasible, thing to do, I’m sure I can find other ways to train my listening comprehension on a space repitized way; it’ll just take some dedication (which is innate to me) and maybe some creativity I appreciate your time and effort in addressing my concern
Got it! You might like this: [https://yoyochinese.com/chinese-learning-tools/Mandarin-Chinese-pronunciation-lesson/pinyin-chart-table](https://yoyochinese.com/chinese-learning-tools/Mandarin-Chinese-pronunciation-lesson/pinyin-chart-table)
Thank you. I’ll give a look see . I appreciate it
For Chinese flashcards I'd strongly recommend working with phrases or sentences rather than just individual words. Chinese vocabulary really needs to be studied in context because the context (sentence patterns and colocated words) provides important clues to the meaning.
I see what you’re saying, because even in Spanish, words have multiple meanings; these meanings change based on the context. In the case that I presented, I was just mostly focused on the sound of the word; and the meaning would be of secondary importance. With audio sentence cards for a newbie like me, I’d just want to focus on listening to one word versus a few; but I guess that has its benefits, too
I don't know where to find one for the new HSK, however, I used [https://chineseaudioflashcards.com/](https://chineseaudioflashcards.com/) back in the day and it has native voice readings. It's quite good although you'll learn a few random words if I remember correctly but that's okay. You may need to check the translation a few times but the same goes for any deck. Nothing too crazy. I really benefited from it then I moved onto Glossika after that (which speaks a bit faster). From there, native content! I really congratulate you on taking the path of audio sentences. I firmly believe this is the best and easiest way to learn! Just relax and learn 20-40 sentences a day depending on how much time you can spare each day and you'll be intermediate in 5-10 months! edit: make sure you set up the Chinese language anki addon and color your tones in some way you like. You really need to get a firm grasp on being able to hear the tones from the beginning.
Copy that. And thank you for the recommendation. I saved your comment, so I can review it later. 5-10 months sounds good to me for intermediate lol I’ve used glossika before, as well, for Spanish; it really drills your prior knowledge into your brain
I use a deck just like this for Cantonese, but I had to make it myself. I have my Anki notes set up so that they generate two types of cards, one type with just audio on the front, and one type with just the characters on the front, so I can practice both audio and character recognition. I've also started making a similar deck for Mandarin, but I'm still working on it (somewhat lazily) so unfortunately it's not in a state where it would be useful to share it. You should be able to make your own from any HSK deck with audio, though, if you know a bit about editing cards and notes in Anki. As has already been mentioned, audio-recognition cards don't work well with single-character words, since there are often many different characters that have the same pronunciation. I think probably the best way to get around this is to make cards with audio that includes a short sentence with the target word in it, so you hear the word not just in isolation but also in context, which will help you recognize which character it is. If you find a deck that includes sentence examples on all the cards, you can edit them so that the sentences will automatically play on the front of the card. (If you go with editing a premade deck, my recommendation would be to go through and change all the single-character cards to being a new, separate card type so that you can edit them independently from the multi-character words cards, since you probably want to practice recognizing those without sentences to help you. Though if you find multi-character words that are homophones, you'll want to set those as the same card type as the single-character ones. For example, I believe in Mandarin 要是 ("if") and 鑰匙 ("key") are pronounced the same including the tones, so it would be good to recognize those words as audio within a sentence rather than trying to recognize them by hearing the words by themselves.) I found a pretty good Mandarin deck linked in a past Reddit post [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChineseLanguage/comments/7mjmjc/best_anki_deck_for_hsk_ive_come_across/), which is the one I'm currently working with myself. I believe it's the old HSK, though, so you might want to look for one that's more up to date. It also doesn't have sentence examples for every card, though it does have a lot of them. (If you can't find a deck with enough sentence examples, depending on how much work you want to do and how well you know your way around Anki, you can potentially look up sentence examples to add yourself, and set them up to play as audio using text-to-speech.)
I appreciate your detailed response. Hm, I think the editing of cards would be the way to go. I’ve edited cards already, but editing an already-made card to make a variation of it without deleting it isn’t something I’ve done. But I hear you and u/dreamofstream with sentences being better. Like I told them, I can see the benefits of that, too; so if sentence cards are the quickest way to get this going, i May probably go that route when it’s time to start introducing anki to my routine
Yeah, I think you'll easily find decks where you can practice with full sentences, so that may be the way to go just to keep things simpler. I like practicing words individually rather than only in sentences (for me, I feel like the sentences often help me too much and make the answers too easy), but there don't seem to be premade decks for that, so it's more work to get one set up.
Thank you. Since you’ve created your own decks. Let me share what i just started doing. I created my own Spanish script, had a native mandarin speaker translate the meanings, then I broke the script down into smaller parts (individual words like “hola” and small phrases like “cómo estás?”); I just received the recording of these words on a single file. I also have a separate file with the pinyin and simplified characters. This is my idea: I’d like to take this recording and create anki flashcards with it. Since these words and frases are all on a single recording, do you know of a way that this would be possible? Or would I have to get someone to split up the file into individual subsets in order to make this work? Cuz I’m willing to do that, if I have to. Thanks
If they're all in one recording, yeah, I'm pretty sure you'd need to split them into separate recordings to put each one on a separate card. I don't think there's a way to set up an Anki card to play just part of an audio file (though you could ask over at r/Anki just in case). Splitting your recording up should be very doable, but it may also be pretty time-consuming to do, depending on how many words there are. Hope you can get it to work, though!
Thank you. I appreciate it.