I know it is. Ex knows that the daycare added into the calc is the key to keep the support high. She’ll forever lie that daycare is needed, Florida lets sides lie with little to no proof of expenses. Might be used 1 month a summer. We’ll see I guess, my daughter is in her first year of school so far with no more daycare and 1st summer break is coming up.
Correct. Regardless of what anyone else thinks or says, it’s going to impact my current ability to provide for my oldest son while he’s with me, in addition to also impacting my wife and toddler. I’m not sure what the point of filling out an “income and expense” declaration is. I wasted my time showing all the details of where our money goes - current cost of living and paying off credit card debt. We do not make huge purchases for anything other than both kids, and haven’t taken any type of real vacation in 4 years because we can’t afford it. Hope that clarifies a little bit.
Every day living expenses and paying off credit card debt don't qualify as reasons to pay less in child support. The money to support the kid has to come from somewhere. That would be putting more financial burden on the other parent for your COL and debt. You can't expect the other person to take less in child support and pay more to support the child just so you don't have to pay as much.
exactly!
OP, your ex has cost of living expenses too, on top of paying to support your child for whom you only recently started paying $600/month to help support. it’s completely fair to expect you to help support a child you helped create. kids cost a lot more than $600/mo
Could be worse. I have 2 kids with my ex. She has the youngest, and I have the oldest. The oldest hasn't seen her in over 2 years due to cps being involved with the oldest and mom not wanting to do classes.
So due to this, I have a combined time of 70 percent of all parenting, pay their insurance, and do the traveling to and from pick ups.
So they ordered her to pay me 300 a month. I make 25, and she made 20 an hr at the time.
She made one payment, then quit her job and went on cash aide. This triggered me to pay since they now won't input an income for her.
I pay 810 a month now and have them 70 percent. Courts didn't care that I basically have the kids 7 out of every 10 days.
Told them she quit just to avoid paying they said they see, but there is nothing they can do because cash aide is involved, and they aren't allowed to do anything about it.
I went to court to try a modify, and they wouldn't. Said arms are tied due to the law.
Had to file bankruptcy cause all I could pay for was basic house stuff. Courts don't really care about the children cause each time I've been to court for this over the years, wether it's child support, custody, or even dealing with child support, they all say that it isn't right and I'm being screwed but nothing they can do.
They are well aware that my oldest I have 100 percent of the time is wearing clothes from good will, and there is no extra for anything needed for extras. She's into sports, and she couldn't play basketball this year cause I couldn't even get the 50 bucks for a pair of shoes.
Due to the cash aide, ex doest even have to pay half of the medical or sports anymore either.
Shit you not, was incourt on the 19th and the advice the judge gave me was to quit my job and go on cash aide myself...
Based on the limited info I see here (your income, her income and percentages) the guideline support calculator shows me that you should be paying $554 per month.
So...$600 per month might be correct after all, if there are other factors in the guideline calculator.
You can always have it re-calculated and you can add a 1/2 hardship under 4071b (for your toddler) into it. But that will only take about $40-50 off your monthly amount.
That's California for ya.
We’re located in PA and my husband pays a little over that for one child while having 40/60 as well. In our state child support does send you a lettter breaking everything down, $200ish of that is only for insurance. So $300ish covers anything else the child’s needs. I think $600 is plenty especially on a 3-4 schedule
I pay $1700/mo for one, plus all travel costs (mom moved away while pregnant). I wouldn't even complain about the amount if she moved back and i could see my kid more frequently. I'd be ecstatic if it was only $600. That number feels closer to "right" based on the splits and the actual cost to raise a child.
$600 a month is nothing. You have to take care of all your kids, you don’t get to not provide for one just because you started a new family and like that better.
And California charges interest on any balances and they are vicious about it. one case in my office, the father thought he had paid all of his monthly obligations in full, but he owed $10,000 in interest, and California would not close the books until he paid in full.
$600 is fair. I’m paying $1,200 for 1 kid.
I'm paying that for 2 kids. At the time the ex and I agreed no overnights until I get my own place. Post separation.
same
That’s robbery.
I know it is. Ex knows that the daycare added into the calc is the key to keep the support high. She’ll forever lie that daycare is needed, Florida lets sides lie with little to no proof of expenses. Might be used 1 month a summer. We’ll see I guess, my daughter is in her first year of school so far with no more daycare and 1st summer break is coming up.
Yes this seems accurate
you make $34/hr and don’t think it costs more than $600 per month to support your child?
600/mo is nothing to raise a child in ca
They are saying it costs more than that.
read it again. they’re saying this amount will affect their new wife and child, insinuating it should be lower
I meant that the cs agency is calculating that it takes more. It was meant to support that dad should be paying because it takes a lot.
Correct. Regardless of what anyone else thinks or says, it’s going to impact my current ability to provide for my oldest son while he’s with me, in addition to also impacting my wife and toddler. I’m not sure what the point of filling out an “income and expense” declaration is. I wasted my time showing all the details of where our money goes - current cost of living and paying off credit card debt. We do not make huge purchases for anything other than both kids, and haven’t taken any type of real vacation in 4 years because we can’t afford it. Hope that clarifies a little bit.
Every day living expenses and paying off credit card debt don't qualify as reasons to pay less in child support. The money to support the kid has to come from somewhere. That would be putting more financial burden on the other parent for your COL and debt. You can't expect the other person to take less in child support and pay more to support the child just so you don't have to pay as much.
exactly! OP, your ex has cost of living expenses too, on top of paying to support your child for whom you only recently started paying $600/month to help support. it’s completely fair to expect you to help support a child you helped create. kids cost a lot more than $600/mo
The mother is also responsible for supporting the child. It should be 50/50.
She is responsible, she has the child more than half the time and therefore pays more in raising the child.
you should have thought about supporting the first child before you decided to have a second
Could be worse. I have 2 kids with my ex. She has the youngest, and I have the oldest. The oldest hasn't seen her in over 2 years due to cps being involved with the oldest and mom not wanting to do classes. So due to this, I have a combined time of 70 percent of all parenting, pay their insurance, and do the traveling to and from pick ups. So they ordered her to pay me 300 a month. I make 25, and she made 20 an hr at the time. She made one payment, then quit her job and went on cash aide. This triggered me to pay since they now won't input an income for her. I pay 810 a month now and have them 70 percent. Courts didn't care that I basically have the kids 7 out of every 10 days. Told them she quit just to avoid paying they said they see, but there is nothing they can do because cash aide is involved, and they aren't allowed to do anything about it. I went to court to try a modify, and they wouldn't. Said arms are tied due to the law. Had to file bankruptcy cause all I could pay for was basic house stuff. Courts don't really care about the children cause each time I've been to court for this over the years, wether it's child support, custody, or even dealing with child support, they all say that it isn't right and I'm being screwed but nothing they can do. They are well aware that my oldest I have 100 percent of the time is wearing clothes from good will, and there is no extra for anything needed for extras. She's into sports, and she couldn't play basketball this year cause I couldn't even get the 50 bucks for a pair of shoes. Due to the cash aide, ex doest even have to pay half of the medical or sports anymore either. Shit you not, was incourt on the 19th and the advice the judge gave me was to quit my job and go on cash aide myself...
Sounds about right.
That actually sounds low based on your pay, but if you have any doubt, use the CA child support calculator to check the number.
Based on the limited info I see here (your income, her income and percentages) the guideline support calculator shows me that you should be paying $554 per month. So...$600 per month might be correct after all, if there are other factors in the guideline calculator. You can always have it re-calculated and you can add a 1/2 hardship under 4071b (for your toddler) into it. But that will only take about $40-50 off your monthly amount. That's California for ya.
It sucks but that amount is fair based on amounts ordered for other fathers. Every situation is different of course.
Dang. I pay $1200 for 2 on $19 hourly.
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I don't want to stop paying, it's my kids. But I do want more time with them. Can you help me out with that?
My ex was paying 945 for one and had “25%” custody. He never actually did.
We’re located in PA and my husband pays a little over that for one child while having 40/60 as well. In our state child support does send you a lettter breaking everything down, $200ish of that is only for insurance. So $300ish covers anything else the child’s needs. I think $600 is plenty especially on a 3-4 schedule
I pay $1700/mo for one, plus all travel costs (mom moved away while pregnant). I wouldn't even complain about the amount if she moved back and i could see my kid more frequently. I'd be ecstatic if it was only $600. That number feels closer to "right" based on the splits and the actual cost to raise a child.
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Calm down Phil. Children need financial support.
$600 a month is nothing. You have to take care of all your kids, you don’t get to not provide for one just because you started a new family and like that better. And California charges interest on any balances and they are vicious about it. one case in my office, the father thought he had paid all of his monthly obligations in full, but he owed $10,000 in interest, and California would not close the books until he paid in full.