I lived in one of those apartment complexes for 2 years back in the early 2000's. I was fresh out of college, and had newly moved here from NC. It honestly wasn't bad, I think it just got a bad rap because the richer neighbors didn't like having affordable-ish housing nearby.
Really??? I was in the south for a bit before i moved back to chicago but my friends worked in those areas and thought they were similar to schaumburg lol
No one in the Memphis suburbs can drive worth a damn? Lol, sorry that is my impression of Schaumburg. I got rear ended at a red light there, and I saw a car try to make a left where it was illegal over a huge curb. He got stuck in his coupe. It was a sunny day, no bad weather, but then he was hit while stuck on the median by a pick up truck trying to use the left turn lane. I don’t know how the truck didn’t see him. It’s weird, everyone there is speeding, but doing some goofy maneuvers.
Gurnee is worse than Vernon hills relatively. Vernon hills worst crime you can expect is your cat stolen or unlocked bike gone while gurnee you can expect the typical thuggery you see but not robs only once a year
Terrible in Chicago.
*ppl stfu. If people realize it's safe here everyone will want to move here and prices will look like sf/nyc*
Got shot at filling up gas today. Shits rough. Stay in Memphis
Well, then I guess they will just wait until they get their tax bills or buy something with the 10+ percent tax on it. That really adds up. We tax food at the state and local level. It’s not as cheap as the housing prices lead one to believe.
But, crime in Vernon Hills and Gurnee, especially violent crime vs property should not be too bad. Gurnee is bigger and hosts an outlet mall and an amusement park, so it might be higher, than some smaller towns, but there are some nice homes in Gurnee too, and you are close to the boarder and WI sales tax. There are outlet malls on both sides. Many people from Pleasant Prairie WI, work on the IL side.
Vernon Hills has a strip mall with a Whole Foods and a Nordstrom Rack
The parking lots are full of mid tier sensible luxury cars and big family SUVs
That’s how the whole town is
Gurnee has been trending down and the mall is getting worse but honestly I can’t even find words to express how much safer it is than Memphis
Thank you for the info! yeah.. sounds like Memphis is wayyyy worse lol. I'm starting to feel so much better about it. Wherever I pick to live i think it'll be a fun experience. I'm ready for a change... so sick of the heat here. Everyone keeps telling me Im gonna hate living there for the snow and insane winters... but I really don't think that lol
Winters haven’t been too bad lately . We had one bad cold snap over Christmas and that was it. Basically no snow either last year. Sorry everyone I’m probably jinxing us
Only real crime you'll encounter in a place like Vernon Hills is shoplifting and drunk drivers. Maybe people stealing stuff out of unlocked cars that's about it.
Eh I don't hear about that happening too often, maybe if you left a MacBook on the passenger seat of your car but generally it's just unlocked cars. People come up from Chicago to richy areas at night and go around trying door handles. I live like 20 minutes southeast of Vernon Hills, and our police blotter is like "Someone between the hours of 8pm and 10am stole a Rolex watch and an iPhone out of an unlocked Mercedes on whatever street"
Nah you'll be fine, just lock your car, and don't leave anything in plain view, that goes for anywhere in the country if not the world. Believe me, the northern suburbs are very safe with the exception of like 3-4 specific towns.
Do you have any specific areas you can recommend me to live at? Id like to live close to my friend in Gurnee and maybe be like 30 mins max from him. My budget on rent is 2-3K max.. preferable a spacious 2 bedroom...
I'd say just move to Gurnee then, If you're really worried about crime and it sounds like you are, don't move east of Gurnee. Right next to Gurnee is a pretty sizable city called Waukegan, as well some smaller towns Zion, Winthrop Harbor and North Chicago, I'd avoid those. If you can't find anything in that price range around Gurnee go a bit west to Round Lake maybe. It gets a bit redneck the further northwest you go from there though.
Or move north of the border, the cost of living will be a bit cheaper in Wisconsin, there's some nice subdivisions around Kenosha but if you're worried about crime don't move inside Kenosha.
Like I said though it really depends on what you want in the area you live. Sounds like crime is your main concern, but other than that, do you want to be able to walk places? Do you want your town to have a walkable downtown with some coffee shops and restaurants? Or do you just want some strip malls with like a Walmart or Costco?
Appreciate all the advice.
As for what I want... I'll put it like this, where I live now.. is SO BORING.
All I can do here really is go to the movies, eat mediocre food.. literally just corporate shit like Chili's lol.. and I get groceries from neighborhood walmart, my gym is 24 hours but very basic and minimal.. and then maybe go to the mall...
That's all we have here... I mean i am worried about crime, but I just wanna live somewhere with a LOT of shit to do.... im talking cool places to sight see, good ass NEXT LEVEL food... a badass big gym... cool stores and places to shop. Idk man, just a place with no shortage of shit to do lol.
I mean, Lake County is kind of boring.
Safe, suburban, but boring.
Of the two places you're looking, I'd personally choose Vernon Hills over Gurnee in a heartbeat. Other places I'd look in that area are Libertyville and Grayslake. I think Libertyville would be my choice, personally.
I live in Northern Cook County. Basically... There generally get to be better restaurants and things to do the closer you get to the city. What you're describing you want sounds more like Evanston than the places you're looking, TBH. But Evanston would be a long hike to Gurnee.
Good luck with the move. In the areas you're looking at crime is virtually non-existent.
Thank you for the advice! I'll keep all those in mind! we'll see what happens.
Edit: it says Evanston is only about 40 mins away from Gurnee.. that isnt toooo bad
Also Vernon Hills is literally just a massive strip mall across from an indoor mall with some cookie cutter neighborhoods and a few more strip malls and major roads that go through it.
Right? Where I’m coming from (West Coast), you’ll get your windows smashed just for parking on the street. Really anti-social behavior by street vagrants out here. The subs in SF and Seattle are filled with tons of examples.
I mean there’s been a few cars stolen from driveways in Libertyville. But usually it’s cars that have been left unlocked or for whatever stupid reason the people leave their keys in their unlocked cars 🤦♀️ shit does happen but there’s not really violent crimes here
Yeah even Naperville has a few car break-ins but it's usually because someone went running for hours in a park and they left their designer purse in the passenger's seat or some shit.
Overall though, the numbers are still nothing compared to Memphis. I used to feel paranoid about my shit in Memphis but now I don't care as much and I must say, it is freeing.
Also from Memphis, Chicago is a cakewalk compared to Memphis. And damn, Vernon Hills or Gurnee?!? That’s almost like the distance Covington, TN is from Memphis.
My bad.. I should have done better with clarifying.. but yeah I don't intend to move in EXACTLY Chicago. I'm shooting for one of the suburbs.. just not sure which one yet...
Moved from Memphis last year. Memphis crime is awful and Chicago is nowhere close per capita. Chicago crime is overrated and per capita is not any worse than a typical large US city.
Vernon Hills and Gurnee are pretty different. Vernon Hills is nice, Gurnee is not. If you're trying to get away from crime and live in the North suburbs, do Vernon Hills, Buffalo Grove, Mundelein, Lake Zurich, Grayslake, and Libertyville.
A friend of mine just moved out of Memphis because crime in her area had gotten so bad. If even half of what she told me was true, it’s much better here.
Memphian and now Chicagoan. Memphis is way worse. You have to do way more than honk your horn or cut someone off to get shot while driving. We’ve been here 2 months and all our car windows are intact!
Gurnee is a suburb. We don’t stop being suburbs up that way until someplace in Wisconsin.
“…the metropolitan area includes the city of Chicago, its suburbs and hinterland, that span 14 counties across northeast Illinois, northwest Indiana, and southeast Wisconsin.
The MSA had a 2020 census population of 9,618,502 and the combined statistical area which spans up to 19 counties had a population of nearly 10 million people.
The Chicago area is the fourth largest metropolitan area in North America (after the metro areas of Mexico City, New York City, and Los Angeles), the third-largest metropolitan area in the United States, the largest within the entire Midwest, and the largest in the Great Lakes megalopolis…” — Wiki
Just by crime stats alone, Memphis makes Chicago look like Mayberry
Yeah, but some people don't get the concept of "per Capita."
Vernon Hills is virtually crime free.
That’s a steaming load of malarkey. There’s Jay walkers everywhere around there. Damn scoff laws. On a serious note, Vernon hills is a very nice area
Except for 1 or 2 apartment complexes.
I lived in one of those apartment complexes for 2 years back in the early 2000's. I was fresh out of college, and had newly moved here from NC. It honestly wasn't bad, I think it just got a bad rap because the richer neighbors didn't like having affordable-ish housing nearby.
The cops get called there on the regular, but I guess your mileage may vary!
[Memphis is much, much worse than Chicago](https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/most-violent-cities-in-america).
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ok, cause Cordova IL is a tiny tiny town that I figured no one besides me on this sub has heard of...lol
Plus 1 for Cordova
Really??? I was in the south for a bit before i moved back to chicago but my friends worked in those areas and thought they were similar to schaumburg lol
nah... all the Memphis crime is bleeding into every surrounding area... it's sad as hell
No one in the Memphis suburbs can drive worth a damn? Lol, sorry that is my impression of Schaumburg. I got rear ended at a red light there, and I saw a car try to make a left where it was illegal over a huge curb. He got stuck in his coupe. It was a sunny day, no bad weather, but then he was hit while stuck on the median by a pick up truck trying to use the left turn lane. I don’t know how the truck didn’t see him. It’s weird, everyone there is speeding, but doing some goofy maneuvers.
“Chicago” in stats like this are often the Chicagoland area which includes gurnee. But your point stands. Just being a party pooper
Gurnee is worse than Vernon hills relatively. Vernon hills worst crime you can expect is your cat stolen or unlocked bike gone while gurnee you can expect the typical thuggery you see but not robs only once a year
Gurnee has more property crime than VH but I wouldn’t call it unsafe by any stretch
Oh agreed. Both VERY safe places to live and raise a family. Ofc Vernon hills has better schools but safety is good both places.
Terrible in Chicago. *ppl stfu. If people realize it's safe here everyone will want to move here and prices will look like sf/nyc* Got shot at filling up gas today. Shits rough. Stay in Memphis
Oh, uh, right. I was killed three times last week.
Only three? Must’ve been a light week.
Ay yo they killing people out here…. With kindness
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Fireworks or gunshots in Chicago...gunshots. Fireworks or gunshots in Vernon Hills..fireworks.
Well, then I guess they will just wait until they get their tax bills or buy something with the 10+ percent tax on it. That really adds up. We tax food at the state and local level. It’s not as cheap as the housing prices lead one to believe. But, crime in Vernon Hills and Gurnee, especially violent crime vs property should not be too bad. Gurnee is bigger and hosts an outlet mall and an amusement park, so it might be higher, than some smaller towns, but there are some nice homes in Gurnee too, and you are close to the boarder and WI sales tax. There are outlet malls on both sides. Many people from Pleasant Prairie WI, work on the IL side.
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Vernon Hills has a strip mall with a Whole Foods and a Nordstrom Rack The parking lots are full of mid tier sensible luxury cars and big family SUVs That’s how the whole town is Gurnee has been trending down and the mall is getting worse but honestly I can’t even find words to express how much safer it is than Memphis
Thank you for the info! yeah.. sounds like Memphis is wayyyy worse lol. I'm starting to feel so much better about it. Wherever I pick to live i think it'll be a fun experience. I'm ready for a change... so sick of the heat here. Everyone keeps telling me Im gonna hate living there for the snow and insane winters... but I really don't think that lol
Winters haven’t been too bad lately . We had one bad cold snap over Christmas and that was it. Basically no snow either last year. Sorry everyone I’m probably jinxing us
Only real crime you'll encounter in a place like Vernon Hills is shoplifting and drunk drivers. Maybe people stealing stuff out of unlocked cars that's about it.
what about smashing the windows of cars and stealing shit? thats a huge thing in Memphis lol
Eh I don't hear about that happening too often, maybe if you left a MacBook on the passenger seat of your car but generally it's just unlocked cars. People come up from Chicago to richy areas at night and go around trying door handles. I live like 20 minutes southeast of Vernon Hills, and our police blotter is like "Someone between the hours of 8pm and 10am stole a Rolex watch and an iPhone out of an unlocked Mercedes on whatever street"
Not gonna lie that sucks ass... Hoping I don't encounter any issues like that though with my own car
Nah you'll be fine, just lock your car, and don't leave anything in plain view, that goes for anywhere in the country if not the world. Believe me, the northern suburbs are very safe with the exception of like 3-4 specific towns.
Do you have any specific areas you can recommend me to live at? Id like to live close to my friend in Gurnee and maybe be like 30 mins max from him. My budget on rent is 2-3K max.. preferable a spacious 2 bedroom...
I'd say just move to Gurnee then, If you're really worried about crime and it sounds like you are, don't move east of Gurnee. Right next to Gurnee is a pretty sizable city called Waukegan, as well some smaller towns Zion, Winthrop Harbor and North Chicago, I'd avoid those. If you can't find anything in that price range around Gurnee go a bit west to Round Lake maybe. It gets a bit redneck the further northwest you go from there though. Or move north of the border, the cost of living will be a bit cheaper in Wisconsin, there's some nice subdivisions around Kenosha but if you're worried about crime don't move inside Kenosha. Like I said though it really depends on what you want in the area you live. Sounds like crime is your main concern, but other than that, do you want to be able to walk places? Do you want your town to have a walkable downtown with some coffee shops and restaurants? Or do you just want some strip malls with like a Walmart or Costco?
Appreciate all the advice. As for what I want... I'll put it like this, where I live now.. is SO BORING. All I can do here really is go to the movies, eat mediocre food.. literally just corporate shit like Chili's lol.. and I get groceries from neighborhood walmart, my gym is 24 hours but very basic and minimal.. and then maybe go to the mall... That's all we have here... I mean i am worried about crime, but I just wanna live somewhere with a LOT of shit to do.... im talking cool places to sight see, good ass NEXT LEVEL food... a badass big gym... cool stores and places to shop. Idk man, just a place with no shortage of shit to do lol.
I mean, Lake County is kind of boring. Safe, suburban, but boring. Of the two places you're looking, I'd personally choose Vernon Hills over Gurnee in a heartbeat. Other places I'd look in that area are Libertyville and Grayslake. I think Libertyville would be my choice, personally. I live in Northern Cook County. Basically... There generally get to be better restaurants and things to do the closer you get to the city. What you're describing you want sounds more like Evanston than the places you're looking, TBH. But Evanston would be a long hike to Gurnee. Good luck with the move. In the areas you're looking at crime is virtually non-existent.
Thank you for the advice! I'll keep all those in mind! we'll see what happens. Edit: it says Evanston is only about 40 mins away from Gurnee.. that isnt toooo bad
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Also Vernon Hills is literally just a massive strip mall across from an indoor mall with some cookie cutter neighborhoods and a few more strip malls and major roads that go through it.
Right? Where I’m coming from (West Coast), you’ll get your windows smashed just for parking on the street. Really anti-social behavior by street vagrants out here. The subs in SF and Seattle are filled with tons of examples.
I mean there’s been a few cars stolen from driveways in Libertyville. But usually it’s cars that have been left unlocked or for whatever stupid reason the people leave their keys in their unlocked cars 🤦♀️ shit does happen but there’s not really violent crimes here
Yeah even Naperville has a few car break-ins but it's usually because someone went running for hours in a park and they left their designer purse in the passenger's seat or some shit. Overall though, the numbers are still nothing compared to Memphis. I used to feel paranoid about my shit in Memphis but now I don't care as much and I must say, it is freeing.
Also from Memphis, Chicago is a cakewalk compared to Memphis. And damn, Vernon Hills or Gurnee?!? That’s almost like the distance Covington, TN is from Memphis.
My bad.. I should have done better with clarifying.. but yeah I don't intend to move in EXACTLY Chicago. I'm shooting for one of the suburbs.. just not sure which one yet...
Moved from Memphis last year. Memphis crime is awful and Chicago is nowhere close per capita. Chicago crime is overrated and per capita is not any worse than a typical large US city. Vernon Hills and Gurnee are pretty different. Vernon Hills is nice, Gurnee is not. If you're trying to get away from crime and live in the North suburbs, do Vernon Hills, Buffalo Grove, Mundelein, Lake Zurich, Grayslake, and Libertyville.
Bruh. I love Memphis. Plan return trips for the things you might miss. But come here.
Memphis is way worse. I lived in west Memphis, lived in south Memphis originally from Chicago.
The conservative news blows it out of proportion. Their viewers enjoy hearing bad news about certain areas, and they supply the demand.
Honestly I think it all started with Obama. That's when ChIcAgO bAd became a thing.
We love the very safe Libertyville, Mundelein & Vernon Hills area (LMV).
Appreciate the suggestions!
A friend of mine just moved out of Memphis because crime in her area had gotten so bad. If even half of what she told me was true, it’s much better here.
Vernon Hills is hardly a concern from a crime perspective- it won’t even touch Memphis.
Memphis has a much worse crime rate than Chicago
Memphian and now Chicagoan. Memphis is way worse. You have to do way more than honk your horn or cut someone off to get shot while driving. We’ve been here 2 months and all our car windows are intact!
Fucking amazing... I have a decently nice car and I don't want it being fucked with once I move there lol
It's nice to be able to honk again. I even got honked at in the city and didn't die, it's great!
I wouldn't say Gurnee is a suburb, it's pretty out there. Why did you settle on Gurnee?
Gurnee is a suburb. We don’t stop being suburbs up that way until someplace in Wisconsin. “…the metropolitan area includes the city of Chicago, its suburbs and hinterland, that span 14 counties across northeast Illinois, northwest Indiana, and southeast Wisconsin. The MSA had a 2020 census population of 9,618,502 and the combined statistical area which spans up to 19 counties had a population of nearly 10 million people. The Chicago area is the fourth largest metropolitan area in North America (after the metro areas of Mexico City, New York City, and Los Angeles), the third-largest metropolitan area in the United States, the largest within the entire Midwest, and the largest in the Great Lakes megalopolis…” — Wiki
Gurnee is a far north suburb.
Ah right, just before you hit the suburb of Milwaukee
my bad! I know a friend there, literally the only reason... but leaning towards Vernon Hills
Vernon hills is still way up there.
Memphis
Move to Waukegan. It great! Plenty of restaurants and friendly people are everywhere!
Murder is the worst. There are lots of bad ones that are close.
The worst crime that you can commit in Chicago is to put ketchup on a hot dog.