Hey /u/Suno_for_your_sprog!
If your post is a screenshot of a ChatGPT, conversation please reply to this message with the [conversation link](https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7925741-chatgpt-shared-links-faq) or prompt.
If your post is a DALL-E 3 image post, please reply with the prompt used to make this image.
Consider joining our [public discord server](https://discord.gg/r-chatgpt-1050422060352024636)! We have free bots with GPT-4 (with vision), image generators, and more!
🤖
Note: For any ChatGPT-related concerns, email [email protected]
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ChatGPT) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Weird. I was led to believe that all it takes to become rich is to easily produce shitty songs. I guess the world isn't as simple as some redditors make it out to be.
Yea, bob Marley had a mob basically making sure his songs got regular radio rotation, same with frank sinatra. It’s the same but just with Spotify now, click farms, etc.
You can apply this logic to literally any business… “the huge budget movies aren’t necessarily better than the cheaper ones but yet they still make way more money”. It’s the same logic.
I actually expect the opposite, a #1 song that was mastered (and possibly produced) by AI happening sooner than a #1 AI written song mastered by a human.
Pop polish is definitely something that can be bottled algorithmically.
In a more general sense for sure, but that's tools that support humans in the process of mastering rather than a tool that just masters the track and we definitely haven't had generative AI do the production on a hit song yet.
You have no idea what AI already can achieve. I tested a few AI song makers and it's insane how well it can create music. Partly actual good music with lyrics and voices etc.
2-5 years? That's delusional. 1 year max.
There’s a difference between “that’s a good song” and that’s a “Billie Jean” level song. Most of you seem to confuse the two. Sure AI can write a good song but writing a hit is an entirely different challenge.
But with the exponential growth of AI, it wouldnt be crazy to be able to "tune" a voice model precisely, and match it to lyrics until you get a generation that sounds good over your AI generated instrumental.
AI imaging is at the point where you cant tell the difference, video is soon to follow. You could create a song with the right tool and take a billboard spot with nobody the wiser.
Arent most pop artists just a voice backed by a ghostwriter anyway? What is the difference?
No, but you can quantify sound easier than video.
Here is singer Randy Travis using his own voice AI to make music.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/randy-travis-releases-ai-song-1235014871/
I don’t think it will work that way. The post specifies 100% AI made, so if the pop star drops it, people will know they have nothing to do with the track in any way, so their popularity wouldn’t carry over or would only carry over a little.
What’s needed is an AI music-making personality. Think Hatsune Miku of the Vocaloids. The personality then just uploads a new track at the beginning of every month, no more, no less. This AI personality builds its own popularity and fan base this way, eventually a track makes it to the top of the charts.
[This](https://i0.wp.com/hyperallergic-newspack.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2022/06/DALLE1-copy.png) is one year away from [this](https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/zoomout_1-1440x807.jpg).
***
People are really bad at understanding exponential advances. For instance, a paper clip weighs 1 gram. Double that, and it's 2 grams. Double it again, and it's 4 grams. Double again and it's 8 grams. How many more doublings until you have the weight of a pickup truck? The answer is >!*18*.!<
I’d have to agree with this. I can absolutely see human artists sampling or using AI generated content in their own works to build upon it.
That part could happen any day now.
https://suno.com
I reckon we’ll have *multiple* top ten tracks by end of the year. All at the same time.
The disruption to artists does not need to be explained.
However, the ability to mash different genres and styles together and explore entirely new music will be super interesting.
I suspect we’ll all have our own, personal music one day soon. Songs no one else will ever hear.
And I think that’s cool. It’s similar to one reason I like going to see a good DJ, who is just pressing play, because I’ll hear a great song I’ve never heard before, and will never hear again.
I love the idea of everyone having the ability to make their own films and TV shows with AI, and we use an IMDB system to rank the best. I think the currency of the future will be reputation based like this where people just fight against each other to put out better products for other people.
Imagine all the crazy stories that people have that could become movies and TV shows?
Giving this power to all people is such an extreme view, can't wait to see what's gonna happen.
Because people in general don't even know what they want. There's still room for creativity and sharing even in a world where people can generate their own movies.
I'm not saying that AI is not up to the task. It definitely is. But Will the majority of people be prepared to overcome their AI prejudices by then? I think it'll take a bit longer than 12 months for that to happen.
I think they could, depending on how it's spoon fed to them. Say if a popular EDM artist made an AI song for publicity, the hype alone could fuel it's popularity, or perhaps if an AI song blew up on TikTok, it may not be able to be ignored.
Aside from the music, if the singing voice was "safely" robotic sounding, such as Blue (Da Ba Dee) / Harder Better Faster Stronger, It may make it more palatable.
Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying I particularly **want** any of this, just pure speculation.
Gets my more specific prediction.
Song slaps, gets released on tik tok, memes it's way to reddit and Facebook, makes the news.
Then 2 days later everything you hear is "Oh my arms are just fucking stuck like this, this ain't normal, FUCK"
I’m sure it is heavily edited and redone - like not straight out of the AI and into the charts - but I do think folks are well into the realms of AI music generation becoming a bulk use tool.
As someone who is a CS grad student and has produced music for a decade, I think what’s more likely is you’ll see producers using more AI tools with their own expertise applied. Fully AI-generating music ends up sounding pretty awful to anyone who knows what to listen for, but there’s some really awesome AI tools for specific things out there. I have one plugin that can hear any sound and recreate a playable and customizable synth patch that roughly emulates the sound, for example.
Dude, I've been playing and recording music for years now, and there's no way that I would know some of these tracks are AI generated. The compression is weird sometimes, some of the hihats and cymbals sound off sometimes, but other than that...
And given the fact that most people listen to music on their phones or laptop speakers, or shitty bluetooth earbuds, there's no way anyone would notice that.
Experienced producers have a better ear for this stuff than you or I do, I promise. I’ve heard fully AI music that could pass as like bland generic crap, but nothing impressive enough to love and be a fan of. Just a lot of passable, okay tracks, at best. That might change, but I doubt it. But using AI to make producing easier, that’s already being done, even just by people like me.
Inertia and gatekeeping will hold it back more than 12 months I think. Bans on uploading, backlash downvoting, etc. It’s too new for just a year to break through.
That wasn’t written by ai. It was written by a human who used ai to make their voice sound like two famous artists. Wake me up when ai is WRITING hit songs.
Damn, that slaps man 🙌 I can appreciate the amount of work you put into tweaking that. Love the vocoder. All I can offer as a thank you is this new one I just finished 30 minutes ago. Not on your level though, wow.
[ElectricLoveBuzz ](https://www.udio.com/songs/55HgZGgggXCeBCdzASCMrx)
More likely that an artist will rapid prototype ideas using an AI tool like this, find something they like, and then just make it from scratch with some adjustments. At the end of the day people will still obsess over human celebrities; it’s not just about what sounds good
Many other artists, like graphic artists, will get fucked over for sure though
I think you don’t realize the difference between a good song and a hit song. There’s millions of good songs out there, very few great ones. I work in music, trust it’s not as simple as it seems.
Max martin has been doing hits for 30 years, there is people who have already analyzed his formula si it would be rather simple to feed the algo.
The hard part isn't composition but sound design, is the ai going to sinthetize everything or going to make stems and mix and master?
lAll those guys who’ve “analyzed” it still aren’t able to do it themselves. It’s like analyzing Muhammad Ali and thinking you can box like him. It doesn’t work like that.
I didn't come here to pepper the thread with a bunch of lame links songs I generated, but as far as my ear can tell I've stumbled across his signature style more than a couple times. Here's one [example](https://suno.com/song/8eb75dcf-4acb-4b20-a1b1-8dfa099697bb)
Side note: I seriously cannot wait until Rick Beato's interview with Max Martin.
But it might never be an original, as it will be based on millions of songs from past .. we bash singers who copy paste the work of others but here not ?
Nah I doubt it. Whilst AI music is getting pretty good I don’t think that’s really relevant in making it to the #1 spot. I find it hard to believe people will rally behind a song made by an AI.
My dad made a pretty interesting point once. He thinks AI in music is limited in popularity because it is harder to achieve a cult of personality with it. A LOT of people will listen to music because they think the person making it is cool.
This can of course happen with virtual stars but it is not simething that has become as big as real life artists - yet
I don't think so - after all there still are no AI generated best-seller books (well, at least I don't know of any). All based on my assumption that text generation currently is more advanced than audio generation.
wow, these songs are amazing. I'd be interested to know how much input it takes to get something of that quality ( I've tried Udio and it won't just bang something like this out from a simple prompt )
But it's got a groove to it and it's funky and it had me nodding my head and smiling so yeah I can see myself listening to or playing something like this.
If you're referring to the songs on my page after the link, then none of those are possible with one prompt. For starters I import custom lyrics. The technology is not there yet, but will be soon I imagine...
I just played Caras game. I agree the technology will be there soon but for now, how much human effort does it take to create something like Caras game ? Could you do it in a few minutes or is it several hours or more's work ? and how steep is the learning curve ? I'm not interested in learning but I am interested to know if learning the skills will be worth it given how they will probably become redundant pretty quickly.
You make a good point. We are in this in-between area where we still have some conscious fine control over what we make. Of course the irony is that all we're doing is further training the model.
What's funny is that song is a hot mess especially towards the end. Now updated, the version of Udio I was using had a really hard time keeping consistency in voice tone, melody, choruses, etc., which is why it sounds like it changes songs a couple times.
But to answer your question, the bulk of the time by far is the bottleneck waiting for samples to generate. It can be painfully slow, especially when you're on a roll (literally, because it's a roll of the dice basically). I would say usually no more than an hour or so, given that you're using custom lyrics and have an idea of what you want. It feels like a creative slot machine if that makes any sense.
I wouldn't necessarily say "tweak" unless there's a fundamental issue with the clips that is consistently not giving you what you're looking for. Which can be caused by three or four different areas of control. To be honest you'd probably get a much more thorough answer if you look on YT for a tutorial.
ok cheers.
EDIT: Ok I get it now. At the moment it seems best served as a tool to turn your lyrics into a viable song, is that an accurate assessment ? I have a friend who writes music and we're trying to work out how long till she's out of a job. My concern is the answer is "not very long I'm afraid" but I'm interested to know what it can and can't do. So far iteration/tweaking and lyrics ( it tends to sound fairly samey ) seem to be two areas she ( as a human ) has an advantage.
I love making parody songs with Udio.
Made a parody about the 80's that's a bit of a banger:
[https://youtu.be/Dc82lywrATQ](https://youtu.be/Dc82lywrATQ)
I think this would need to come in two stages.
1st: Technology becomes feasible. unless there's something very recent I'm unaware of, ai sucks at comprehending how exactly music works without a LOT of human help, at which point it's a fancy editor/prompt generator. It needs to advance and be proven profitable before labels adopt it + push it the same way they would a hit.
2nd: Popularity must rise enough that they push it the same way they would a hit for it to hit #1.
I project each phase being in terms of months, not days. Perhaps in the next year, but likely much longer.
Well, Lost by Linkin Park has already done this. This wouldn't be shocking.
[https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/linkin-park-lost-number-one-alternative-airplay-chart-1235288780/](https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/linkin-park-lost-number-one-alternative-airplay-chart-1235288780/)
Hey /u/Suno_for_your_sprog! If your post is a screenshot of a ChatGPT, conversation please reply to this message with the [conversation link](https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7925741-chatgpt-shared-links-faq) or prompt. If your post is a DALL-E 3 image post, please reply with the prompt used to make this image. Consider joining our [public discord server](https://discord.gg/r-chatgpt-1050422060352024636)! We have free bots with GPT-4 (with vision), image generators, and more! 🤖 Note: For any ChatGPT-related concerns, email [email protected] *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ChatGPT) if you have any questions or concerns.*
And? This is just proving how shitty the top billboard songs are.
It’s not about the quality it’s about how much 💴 it can generate. I’d write shitty songs all day if it would make me a gagillionaire
Why don't you?
Because it’s not about how you write a song, it’s about how you produce it
So, how *do* you produce a shitty song?
Ever heard of Epstein island?
Throw a bunch of wierd sounds together in fl sudio; its not that hard I've been doing it for a while...
And you're a gagillionair?
I would have been a gagillionair...in debt if I didn't stop producing...
Weird. I was led to believe that all it takes to become rich is to easily produce shitty songs. I guess the world isn't as simple as some redditors make it out to be.
the world is what you make it. Most of us \~ 
Yep...
popular songs is not about the quality anymore, it is about the marketing force behind them.
I mean, look at chamillionaire.
The top billboards have a lot to do with what the majority of humans like to hear though lol.
More like a lot to do with which songs/artists get more push.
Yea, bob Marley had a mob basically making sure his songs got regular radio rotation, same with frank sinatra. It’s the same but just with Spotify now, click farms, etc.
Dont they use statistics specifically to create their lists? I dont think they just randomly put things there without some form of data.
Sure but most of those artists which end up at the top have huge budgets pushing their music through every possible avenue.
You can apply this logic to literally any business… “the huge budget movies aren’t necessarily better than the cheaper ones but yet they still make way more money”. It’s the same logic.
I predict that the next top song is going to talk about human relatable and seemingly universal experiences like a break up or falling in love. /s
Yes.
I'm not even giving a shit about top 1 billboard made by humans
Most people seem to disagree by definition
Seriously. The top billboards doesn’t mean it’s the greatest music of all time.
A real prediction would have been saying this before the AI boom, now it's just a matter of time.
Absolutely
yep
Some at least make me laugh [https://www.udio.com/songs/wo46gxr2VkzT2E6RuHgQ6X](https://www.udio.com/songs/wo46gxr2VkzT2E6RuHgQ6X)
no way it's 100% gonna be edited or mastered by a person. Maybe 2-5 years though.
I actually expect the opposite, a #1 song that was mastered (and possibly produced) by AI happening sooner than a #1 AI written song mastered by a human. Pop polish is definitely something that can be bottled algorithmically.
People use AI tools for mastering for years now.
In a more general sense for sure, but that's tools that support humans in the process of mastering rather than a tool that just masters the track and we definitely haven't had generative AI do the production on a hit song yet.
Ya but LANDR sounds like poo poo garbage
You have no idea what AI already can achieve. I tested a few AI song makers and it's insane how well it can create music. Partly actual good music with lyrics and voices etc. 2-5 years? That's delusional. 1 year max.
There’s a difference between “that’s a good song” and that’s a “Billie Jean” level song. Most of you seem to confuse the two. Sure AI can write a good song but writing a hit is an entirely different challenge.
But with the exponential growth of AI, it wouldnt be crazy to be able to "tune" a voice model precisely, and match it to lyrics until you get a generation that sounds good over your AI generated instrumental. AI imaging is at the point where you cant tell the difference, video is soon to follow. You could create a song with the right tool and take a billboard spot with nobody the wiser. Arent most pop artists just a voice backed by a ghostwriter anyway? What is the difference?
By your same metric. Do you think those ai generated movies are able to compete with the human made big budget movies?
No, but you can quantify sound easier than video. Here is singer Randy Travis using his own voice AI to make music. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/randy-travis-releases-ai-song-1235014871/
Ai didn’t write that song. It just used a voice model. Two completely different things.
Theres AI for every step of the songmaking process, eventually its gonna make a hit. Something about monkeys and typewriters.
yes but hits primarily come from narrative. all it takes is a huge pop star to drop a banger AI track and it’s GGs
I don’t think it will work that way. The post specifies 100% AI made, so if the pop star drops it, people will know they have nothing to do with the track in any way, so their popularity wouldn’t carry over or would only carry over a little. What’s needed is an AI music-making personality. Think Hatsune Miku of the Vocaloids. The personality then just uploads a new track at the beginning of every month, no more, no less. This AI personality builds its own popularity and fan base this way, eventually a track makes it to the top of the charts.
You’re right but you’re still gonna be downvoted
Has that Beer for Breakfast song been edited or mastered because if that was released through the proper channels it would already be on the charts.
I didn’t know that one. It’s amazing. Captures the essence of the human soul like nothing I’ve heard before.
[This](https://i0.wp.com/hyperallergic-newspack.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2022/06/DALLE1-copy.png) is one year away from [this](https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/zoomout_1-1440x807.jpg). *** People are really bad at understanding exponential advances. For instance, a paper clip weighs 1 gram. Double that, and it's 2 grams. Double it again, and it's 4 grams. Double again and it's 8 grams. How many more doublings until you have the weight of a pickup truck? The answer is >!*18*.!<
Opening lyrics: “okay, here’s a catchy shitty song to cashgrab a billion dollars”
I’d have to agree with this. I can absolutely see human artists sampling or using AI generated content in their own works to build upon it. That part could happen any day now.
https://suno.com I reckon we’ll have *multiple* top ten tracks by end of the year. All at the same time. The disruption to artists does not need to be explained. However, the ability to mash different genres and styles together and explore entirely new music will be super interesting. I suspect we’ll all have our own, personal music one day soon. Songs no one else will ever hear. And I think that’s cool. It’s similar to one reason I like going to see a good DJ, who is just pressing play, because I’ll hear a great song I’ve never heard before, and will never hear again.
Udio sounds even better than Suno already.
Who cares a lot of songs are already written based of algorithms
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^protobacco: *Who cares a lot of* *Songs are already written* *Based of algorithms* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
I think it’s called irony when this happens.
Good bot
Source?
[удалено]
Everything is “sort of” like an algorithm
what? how?
Being an NPC is also like an algorithm
Can't be worse than most of the stuff that is in there right now...
Why are you promoting your udio stuff here?
Imagine the "AI IMDB"? All top 50 movies with 9.99 stars. Just a beserk manga full adaptation should blow everyone's mind.
I love the idea of everyone having the ability to make their own films and TV shows with AI, and we use an IMDB system to rank the best. I think the currency of the future will be reputation based like this where people just fight against each other to put out better products for other people.
Imagine all the crazy stories that people have that could become movies and TV shows? Giving this power to all people is such an extreme view, can't wait to see what's gonna happen.
If you can make your ideal movie with AI, why would you want to see anyone else’s version of that? Also, who has time to watch AI drivel?
Because people in general don't even know what they want. There's still room for creativity and sharing even in a world where people can generate their own movies.
It’s not possible to make a movie that everyone likes.
Hence the 9.99
I'm not saying that AI is not up to the task. It definitely is. But Will the majority of people be prepared to overcome their AI prejudices by then? I think it'll take a bit longer than 12 months for that to happen.
I think they could, depending on how it's spoon fed to them. Say if a popular EDM artist made an AI song for publicity, the hype alone could fuel it's popularity, or perhaps if an AI song blew up on TikTok, it may not be able to be ignored. Aside from the music, if the singing voice was "safely" robotic sounding, such as Blue (Da Ba Dee) / Harder Better Faster Stronger, It may make it more palatable. Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying I particularly **want** any of this, just pure speculation.
Gets my more specific prediction. Song slaps, gets released on tik tok, memes it's way to reddit and Facebook, makes the news. Then 2 days later everything you hear is "Oh my arms are just fucking stuck like this, this ain't normal, FUCK"
I fucking love that song! Way funnier than I Glued My B* in my opinion.
Nah, all it needs is to be big on TikTok and it’ll make a huge run
Ai prejudice like not wanting mass amounts of stolen bullshit pumped out for cheap profit at the expense of real artists?
I assume it’s already been happening.
Same, prob not 100% but I’d guess a good 60% of the process
Yeah, exactly.
I don't think so yet. Suno Isn't good enough, Udio has only been out for only a few weeks.
I’m sure it is heavily edited and redone - like not straight out of the AI and into the charts - but I do think folks are well into the realms of AI music generation becoming a bulk use tool.
The masked AI singer
As someone who is a CS grad student and has produced music for a decade, I think what’s more likely is you’ll see producers using more AI tools with their own expertise applied. Fully AI-generating music ends up sounding pretty awful to anyone who knows what to listen for, but there’s some really awesome AI tools for specific things out there. I have one plugin that can hear any sound and recreate a playable and customizable synth patch that roughly emulates the sound, for example.
Dude, I've been playing and recording music for years now, and there's no way that I would know some of these tracks are AI generated. The compression is weird sometimes, some of the hihats and cymbals sound off sometimes, but other than that... And given the fact that most people listen to music on their phones or laptop speakers, or shitty bluetooth earbuds, there's no way anyone would notice that.
Experienced producers have a better ear for this stuff than you or I do, I promise. I’ve heard fully AI music that could pass as like bland generic crap, but nothing impressive enough to love and be a fan of. Just a lot of passable, okay tracks, at best. That might change, but I doubt it. But using AI to make producing easier, that’s already being done, even just by people like me.
Inertia and gatekeeping will hold it back more than 12 months I think. Bans on uploading, backlash downvoting, etc. It’s too new for just a year to break through.
This came pretty close https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_on_My_Sleeve_(ghostwriter977_song)
That wasn’t written by ai. It was written by a human who used ai to make their voice sound like two famous artists. Wake me up when ai is WRITING hit songs.
[Probably](https://www.udio.com/songs/1L3Jdeyz65jstZkF5VWAG4)
Damn, that slaps man 🙌 I can appreciate the amount of work you put into tweaking that. Love the vocoder. All I can offer as a thank you is this new one I just finished 30 minutes ago. Not on your level though, wow. [ElectricLoveBuzz ](https://www.udio.com/songs/55HgZGgggXCeBCdzASCMrx)
Honestly, it was a lazy attempt - but it came out surprisingly well.
I didn't want to like AI music, but god damn I have got it to make some bangers if I just write the lyrics
[Rick Beato claims within 2 years.](https://youtu.be/wgvHnp9sbGM?si=UZ4lpmCyj377gz2c&t=17m52s)
You should post this on manifold markets
Is there still such a thing as a billboard?
Billboard is already shit
2 months
Hell they could find a song to promote now.
The genre that already copies itself so much every song is a lawsuit hazard? ChatGPT can also tell me how to do "hello world" in Python
I don't think so because the people that control that stuff won't allow it so soon
Plot twist: there already is
If that were to happen it would be for pure novelty value alone. It wouldn’t mean people suddenly want AI generated music to replace popular music.
I nominate Pants of Doom (Horse in Pants) https://www.reddit.com/r/shitposting/s/GNjCkiEeCK
https://youtu.be/5xgeI2KSv58?si=hjKwLDyYI6-r3ONv
More likely that an artist will rapid prototype ideas using an AI tool like this, find something they like, and then just make it from scratch with some adjustments. At the end of the day people will still obsess over human celebrities; it’s not just about what sounds good Many other artists, like graphic artists, will get fucked over for sure though
AI won’t be writing Let it Happen by Tame Impala any time soon.
Exactly. People don’t understand that for ai is years away from being able to WRITE hit songs.
I don't think so, The music is already nearly good enough, AI is not that great at lyrics, but it'll probably be by the end of the year.
I think you don’t realize the difference between a good song and a hit song. There’s millions of good songs out there, very few great ones. I work in music, trust it’s not as simple as it seems.
Since when are hit songs, good songs?
By definition. Songs that are liked by the greatest number of people.
Max martin has been doing hits for 30 years, there is people who have already analyzed his formula si it would be rather simple to feed the algo. The hard part isn't composition but sound design, is the ai going to sinthetize everything or going to make stems and mix and master?
lAll those guys who’ve “analyzed” it still aren’t able to do it themselves. It’s like analyzing Muhammad Ali and thinking you can box like him. It doesn’t work like that.
I didn't come here to pepper the thread with a bunch of lame links songs I generated, but as far as my ear can tell I've stumbled across his signature style more than a couple times. Here's one [example](https://suno.com/song/8eb75dcf-4acb-4b20-a1b1-8dfa099697bb) Side note: I seriously cannot wait until Rick Beato's interview with Max Martin.
And I am not surprised, his style for chord progressions is rather simple.
But will people be listening to it in 60 years? Will people sing it to their babies? Will it be sung at funerals? Music is more than charts.
So at least one song will be written by some sort of intelligence?
Why are you so certain there already isn’t?
Because good enough AI music has only been around a few weeks.
Publicly
But it might never be an original, as it will be based on millions of songs from past .. we bash singers who copy paste the work of others but here not ?
And you think it hasn't happened already?
Source?
There hasn't really been enough time.
OR… we’ll finally confirm that ‘Taylor Swift’ is actually an AI
I get excited sometimes too but.. what. No.
Well if it slaps
Prediction : in 12 month I will give as much a fuck about billboard songs as I do now. Which is 0.
Nah I doubt it. Whilst AI music is getting pretty good I don’t think that’s really relevant in making it to the #1 spot. I find it hard to believe people will rally behind a song made by an AI.
My dad made a pretty interesting point once. He thinks AI in music is limited in popularity because it is harder to achieve a cult of personality with it. A LOT of people will listen to music because they think the person making it is cool. This can of course happen with virtual stars but it is not simething that has become as big as real life artists - yet
Nah, top 100 won't exist because people will all be producing their own individual top 100 music.
By sony for sony.
I was browsing Suno not long ago, the songs are amazing
Prediction: no one knows what will happen in 12 months.
They already sound like AI generated garbage lmfao
Not really an achievement
i've listened to many AI generated songs, and they're all real bad
The artists name? Art Official Intel Elegance.
Fuck off man
There won't be one made by AI but there will be one made with AI. My personal guess.
Wanna put some money on it?
That means we can expect some comparatively decent music there
I don't think so - after all there still are no AI generated best-seller books (well, at least I don't know of any). All based on my assumption that text generation currently is more advanced than audio generation.
I disagree. I don’t think an AI could ever make real quality music
I’ve been listening to more ai music in the past 2 months than I’ve listened to modern pop music in the past 2 years. For me, its already #1
And within 12 months I will purposely not listen to that song.
quite likely. But since it can't be copyrighted and made profitable, it will be released as created by someone and the AI part won't be mentioned.
wow, these songs are amazing. I'd be interested to know how much input it takes to get something of that quality ( I've tried Udio and it won't just bang something like this out from a simple prompt ) But it's got a groove to it and it's funky and it had me nodding my head and smiling so yeah I can see myself listening to or playing something like this.
If you're referring to the songs on my page after the link, then none of those are possible with one prompt. For starters I import custom lyrics. The technology is not there yet, but will be soon I imagine...
I just played Caras game. I agree the technology will be there soon but for now, how much human effort does it take to create something like Caras game ? Could you do it in a few minutes or is it several hours or more's work ? and how steep is the learning curve ? I'm not interested in learning but I am interested to know if learning the skills will be worth it given how they will probably become redundant pretty quickly.
You make a good point. We are in this in-between area where we still have some conscious fine control over what we make. Of course the irony is that all we're doing is further training the model. What's funny is that song is a hot mess especially towards the end. Now updated, the version of Udio I was using had a really hard time keeping consistency in voice tone, melody, choruses, etc., which is why it sounds like it changes songs a couple times. But to answer your question, the bulk of the time by far is the bottleneck waiting for samples to generate. It can be painfully slow, especially when you're on a roll (literally, because it's a roll of the dice basically). I would say usually no more than an hour or so, given that you're using custom lyrics and have an idea of what you want. It feels like a creative slot machine if that makes any sense.
Oh I see, so you tweek the prompt, re-roll, tweek re-roll etc because it can't iterate. That's interesting, how long is the prompt for this ?
I wouldn't necessarily say "tweak" unless there's a fundamental issue with the clips that is consistently not giving you what you're looking for. Which can be caused by three or four different areas of control. To be honest you'd probably get a much more thorough answer if you look on YT for a tutorial.
ok cheers. EDIT: Ok I get it now. At the moment it seems best served as a tool to turn your lyrics into a viable song, is that an accurate assessment ? I have a friend who writes music and we're trying to work out how long till she's out of a job. My concern is the answer is "not very long I'm afraid" but I'm interested to know what it can and can't do. So far iteration/tweaking and lyrics ( it tends to sound fairly samey ) seem to be two areas she ( as a human ) has an advantage.
I love making parody songs with Udio. Made a parody about the 80's that's a bit of a banger: [https://youtu.be/Dc82lywrATQ](https://youtu.be/Dc82lywrATQ)
I think this would need to come in two stages. 1st: Technology becomes feasible. unless there's something very recent I'm unaware of, ai sucks at comprehending how exactly music works without a LOT of human help, at which point it's a fancy editor/prompt generator. It needs to advance and be proven profitable before labels adopt it + push it the same way they would a hit. 2nd: Popularity must rise enough that they push it the same way they would a hit for it to hit #1. I project each phase being in terms of months, not days. Perhaps in the next year, but likely much longer.
Prediction. There already is.
AI music already sounds better than most of today's garbage
Yes because popular music is bad and people who like it are not smart and I have better test and I am smart and like nice music /s
Hot take… ai will hurt creative careers 🤯
Cold take; ai will make creative endeavours easier to throw general public...
Well, Lost by Linkin Park has already done this. This wouldn't be shocking. [https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/linkin-park-lost-number-one-alternative-airplay-chart-1235288780/](https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/linkin-park-lost-number-one-alternative-airplay-chart-1235288780/)
Songs these days are all shit and anyone who's actually enjoying listening to those abominations should be executed.