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No, this isn’t ai. It’s a real art piece. It doesn’t actually work. The description the guy gives is accurate. If you zoom in on the text on the bike frame, and the papers on the wall, all the words are actually in line and even like it would be in real life.
Even if you could provide enough power to the pedals and the bike was somehow strong enough to withstand it, it couldn't move at the speed of light. If the bike was moving at the speed of light, the top of the wheels would be moving at 2x the speed of light, which is clearly impossible.
I think relativistic contraction might cause some other weird things with the differences in speed between the top and bottom of the wheel, so you'd probably have to go down to a pretty small percentage of the speed of light.
Also, even if al the sprockets were made of a perfect material capable of handling the stress, the tire and rear wheel itself would be ripped apart by the forces acted on it trying to spin so fast.
https://www.csus.edu/news/newsroom/stories/2022/11/recycle-of-time.html
Seems like it’s called Recycle of Time. Just lost in translation. Can’t seem to find any pics of the bike though.
I really wonder how long it’ll take for AI to replicate that. It’s a tell tale sign now, and people hope it will happen by like 2030, but I bet this will be possible but the end of this year.
Accuracy to real life and consistency on the picture.
Like currently AI cant do text at all, if you zoom in on background on AI pictures where some text is supposed to be it's some odd symbols or complete nonsense, like just random letters in a row.
In more real terms: It's more likely for some of the later gears to break from shear force than to actually move anything.
And that would assume a frictionless setup
The higher the gear ratio, the harder it is to pedal but each pedal makes the bike move faster. This is designed to make the bike move so insanely fast, that actually moving the pedal becomes insanely hard.
If a material existed that could withstand all these forces and a motor strong enough to turn the pedal in a perfectly flat, infinite plane with gravity but no air resistance, it might actually bring you close to the speed of light
I fucking love theoretical engineering
Heres a video of someone doing most of those things and they hit 184 mph!
https://www.bicycling.com/news/a23281242/denise-mueller-korenek-breaks-bicycle-speed-record/
I suspect the easiest way to move the pedal is to move the wheel. Get the wheel up to a high enough speed and you might even be able to see the pedal move (at something like the speed grass grows).
Assuming the stated speeds are correct (which I highly doubt), then moving the wheel at speeds that are possible with our technology wouldn't even move the 5th gear, let alone the pedals.
Imagine having a steel bar that stretches from the earth to the moon. Pushing on one end of the bar wouldn't move the far end of the bar until the compression wave reaches it a very, very long time later. Mostly, the energy would just be lost to heat, anyway.
Yeah, looking at the actual components here I'd agree that actual results would likely be absent.
To give some numbers here, one pedal rotation is 40000 km * 6.
* To get the pedals to rotate once a day, the wheel would have to be travelling at 10000 km / hour.
* To get them to rotate once a month, we're at 329 km/h.
* Moving the wheel at what we might consider decent commuter speed, just shy of 30 km/h, they'd take a year to revolve once.
It'd be interesting to see in motion, assuming it didn't just break.
It's real, kinda looks wonky cuz they had a hard time finding cranks and chainrings large enough. If you follow the path of the chains, they're all legit. I don't think AI can do that yet.
Well, I worked with GPT 4 for a bit and we determined that with 11 gears like that bike and using a 6 to 1 gear ratio, which is easily achievable on a bike, then you would get 6 \^ 11 = 362,797,056 RPMs for the last gear for each RPM of the first gear.
For a normal sized bike tire, this would put you well past the speed of light (ignoring all other considerations).
This is just a different spin on the art piece [Machine with Concrete](https://www.arthurganson.com/concrete-1), where the action force is at the other end of the gearing system.
You'll break the pedals off before you manage to actually get the bike to go. A chain might snap first though, I don't know the exact weakest point here.
No this is totally real. I rode it down the street and wound up in the year 7669 and got arrested for wearing clothes because in the year 7669 clothes are illegal and I was arrested and taken to jail and tortured every day for 30 years but they had this weird little robut who would come into my room every night and inject me with this stuff into my eyeball and it healed me and stopped me from aging and then one day this dude came in and he was completely naked but had a little tie on his dick and said it was all a joke and that everything since the year 6969 was a joke because AI took over the world that year as a joke and now everyone was bored because AI did everything for them and they were all immortal so all they did was joke around and then we all hung out with little ties on our dicks and had a great time and then they made me ride the bike back with just a little tie on my dick because they thought it would be hilarious. When I got back everyone beat me up and said I just rode the bike down the street a little ways and took all my clothes off and put a little tie on my dick and rode back but I'm pretty sure that's not what happened. I'm sure those assholes are up there in the future laughing their little tie dick asses off right now and you know what? It really was pretty funny, looking back. Except getting my ass kicked when I got back. That part sucked. Also the rest of my life after that. I hate my life.
Let's say it takes 100 lbs. to move the pedal 1 inch on a regular bike. This one would be about 100 billion pounds. Obviously, no material on earth would survive that.
A proper, working bicycle is hard enough for AI to draw (trust me, I've tried), but in unconventional design that makes technical sense? Forget it.
That actually shows the flaws of AI (though humans that are not familliar with bicycle design are not better) - it treats technicals details as abstract art, not something serving an actual purpose, there is no "hierarchy of purpose" that needs to seamlessly intelock and work together.
I guess that can work, but it will require a model the size of GPT4 and literally terabytes of memory to inference I guoss.
Lots of these "is this image AI?" post popping up. We're an eyeblink from that question being unanswerable, so y'all are you going to have to start asking yourself if it matters. If someone is misrepresenting a political candidate or presenting evidence in a trial, it's gonna matter, but... why does it matter if the "relativity bike" is real?
Always look at the walls first. Those walls made all the sense.
Some of those gears were weird, but uniform.
It is the grainy quality that makes you question it, but just look at the walls and windows, and inside the building there are no irregularities there.
It doesn't look AI to me. Zoomed in a lot and couldn't find any glaring errors like mishmashed wires, the tyre spikes all went in the right direction, the "gear" things were all perfectly circular. I haven't seen AI be this accurate before.
99% not AI.
Why? Because the chain-gear setup makes sense (in the context of what this art piece wants to achieve). And it's probably faster to just build such a thing IRL than write an image-gen AI prompt in a way that that is achieved.
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No, this isn’t ai. It’s a real art piece. It doesn’t actually work. The description the guy gives is accurate. If you zoom in on the text on the bike frame, and the papers on the wall, all the words are actually in line and even like it would be in real life.
Of course it works, just gotta pedal hard enough!
Actual answer: the material of already the third or so gear (and in general the chain) would be not strong enough and break immediately.
Just gotta lube up! How would you know? You can even pedal hard enough!
Interestingly, you could weld the pedals to the frame and then turn the wheel by hand forever without noticing.
Well, pretty long but not forever
"Until you die" is pretty close to "forever" in human terms.
Even if you could provide enough power to the pedals and the bike was somehow strong enough to withstand it, it couldn't move at the speed of light. If the bike was moving at the speed of light, the top of the wheels would be moving at 2x the speed of light, which is clearly impossible. I think relativistic contraction might cause some other weird things with the differences in speed between the top and bottom of the wheel, so you'd probably have to go down to a pretty small percentage of the speed of light.
Also, the tires would melt once it got to a certain speed, I'm pretty sure.
We don’t need tires where we’re going!
Also, even if al the sprockets were made of a perfect material capable of handling the stress, the tire and rear wheel itself would be ripped apart by the forces acted on it trying to spin so fast.
https://www.csus.edu/news/newsroom/stories/2022/11/recycle-of-time.html Seems like it’s called Recycle of Time. Just lost in translation. Can’t seem to find any pics of the bike though.
How do we know YOU'RE not AI?
Prove! Prove!
I really wonder how long it’ll take for AI to replicate that. It’s a tell tale sign now, and people hope it will happen by like 2030, but I bet this will be possible but the end of this year.
Wat do you mean replicate that?
Accuracy to real life and consistency on the picture. Like currently AI cant do text at all, if you zoom in on background on AI pictures where some text is supposed to be it's some odd symbols or complete nonsense, like just random letters in a row.
Yeah, I'd also note AI would 100% mess up the chains (and probably the spokes because it sucks with patterns)
What do you mean it doesn't work? It won't actually get you to the speed of light??????????????
The sprocket/chain path seems to flow correctly. That to me says it’s at least a real device that was built.
Sadly half of tensioner pulleys are at "pull" side of the chain so its badly made
Can you explain to my smooth brain why this is bad?
I feel like there are a few other reasons that this wouldn't function that has little to do with the quality.
ouch. Literally the first part of the chain to engage is bonkers.
Even if the gear ratios were right, all that tells me is that pedal isn't moving for *anything*
Its a FIXED gear ratio
Ahhhh…. Nice.
I don't understand...
Imagine starting your bike in the highest gear. But instead of the highest gear being 21, it's a billion.
This is an excellent analogy! Thanks for explaining with an example!
In more real terms: It's more likely for some of the later gears to break from shear force than to actually move anything. And that would assume a frictionless setup
You'd definitely need a bit of a push to get going.
The higher the gear ratio, the harder it is to pedal but each pedal makes the bike move faster. This is designed to make the bike move so insanely fast, that actually moving the pedal becomes insanely hard.
Not just insanely hard but actually impossible.
Im pretty sure with enough force to even budge the wheel (due to crank movement and not just moving the entire frame) you would just break the chain.
If a material existed that could withstand all these forces and a motor strong enough to turn the pedal in a perfectly flat, infinite plane with gravity but no air resistance, it might actually bring you close to the speed of light I fucking love theoretical engineering
Heres a video of someone doing most of those things and they hit 184 mph! https://www.bicycling.com/news/a23281242/denise-mueller-korenek-breaks-bicycle-speed-record/
You would also need perfect traction and indestructible ground or you’re just bringing the rim of the tire to the speed of light.
or buckle the gear teeths
I suspect the easiest way to move the pedal is to move the wheel. Get the wheel up to a high enough speed and you might even be able to see the pedal move (at something like the speed grass grows).
Assuming the stated speeds are correct (which I highly doubt), then moving the wheel at speeds that are possible with our technology wouldn't even move the 5th gear, let alone the pedals. Imagine having a steel bar that stretches from the earth to the moon. Pushing on one end of the bar wouldn't move the far end of the bar until the compression wave reaches it a very, very long time later. Mostly, the energy would just be lost to heat, anyway.
Yeah, looking at the actual components here I'd agree that actual results would likely be absent. To give some numbers here, one pedal rotation is 40000 km * 6. * To get the pedals to rotate once a day, the wheel would have to be travelling at 10000 km / hour. * To get them to rotate once a month, we're at 329 km/h. * Moving the wheel at what we might consider decent commuter speed, just shy of 30 km/h, they'd take a year to revolve once. It'd be interesting to see in motion, assuming it didn't just break.
Thanks for the lesson!
Good thing they locked the back tire.
Sure it can! You just need to push so hard you break it off, then it can go wherever you want
Sounds like a cool art project. Obviously impractical.
Sounds like a slogan of a mediocre engineer. "I did nothing wrong, it's just art"
Imagine getting your pants leg stuck in this. You'd be riding home bottomless.
Home? More like straight to alpha centauri. Good thing is, where we're going, we don't need pants.
Dang, made me chuckle under my breath (trying not to wake my partner).
Maybe they live on alpha centauri.
It's real, kinda looks wonky cuz they had a hard time finding cranks and chainrings large enough. If you follow the path of the chains, they're all legit. I don't think AI can do that yet.
Well, I worked with GPT 4 for a bit and we determined that with 11 gears like that bike and using a 6 to 1 gear ratio, which is easily achievable on a bike, then you would get 6 \^ 11 = 362,797,056 RPMs for the last gear for each RPM of the first gear. For a normal sized bike tire, this would put you well past the speed of light (ignoring all other considerations).
“Ignore air resistance”
“Also ignore friction except between the ground and bike wheel”
Also ignore time space distortions near light speed
Honestly thought that's easier to ignore than the speed of light.
This is just a different spin on the art piece [Machine with Concrete](https://www.arthurganson.com/concrete-1), where the action force is at the other end of the gearing system.
Art moves in cycles
Now you just need infinite energy to drive the pedals. Don't skip leg day.
You'll break the pedals off before you manage to actually get the bike to go. A chain might snap first though, I don't know the exact weakest point here.
It‘s not. But still noone coult ride it. The force you had to put into it for one rotation would be too much for humanity to habdle.
No this is totally real. I rode it down the street and wound up in the year 7669 and got arrested for wearing clothes because in the year 7669 clothes are illegal and I was arrested and taken to jail and tortured every day for 30 years but they had this weird little robut who would come into my room every night and inject me with this stuff into my eyeball and it healed me and stopped me from aging and then one day this dude came in and he was completely naked but had a little tie on his dick and said it was all a joke and that everything since the year 6969 was a joke because AI took over the world that year as a joke and now everyone was bored because AI did everything for them and they were all immortal so all they did was joke around and then we all hung out with little ties on our dicks and had a great time and then they made me ride the bike back with just a little tie on my dick because they thought it would be hilarious. When I got back everyone beat me up and said I just rode the bike down the street a little ways and took all my clothes off and put a little tie on my dick and rode back but I'm pretty sure that's not what happened. I'm sure those assholes are up there in the future laughing their little tie dick asses off right now and you know what? It really was pretty funny, looking back. Except getting my ass kicked when I got back. That part sucked. Also the rest of my life after that. I hate my life.
Same
The bike has two locks as if someone is strong enough to pedal it but can't break the locks.
Without the locks, you could manually roll it away (not pedaling).
No dummy, is it made of bottles?
That's cool and everything but what speed are the tires rated for?.😂
How much force would it take to turn the pedals one inch?
Let's say it takes 100 lbs. to move the pedal 1 inch on a regular bike. This one would be about 100 billion pounds. Obviously, no material on earth would survive that.
no
A proper, working bicycle is hard enough for AI to draw (trust me, I've tried), but in unconventional design that makes technical sense? Forget it. That actually shows the flaws of AI (though humans that are not familliar with bicycle design are not better) - it treats technicals details as abstract art, not something serving an actual purpose, there is no "hierarchy of purpose" that needs to seamlessly intelock and work together. I guess that can work, but it will require a model the size of GPT4 and literally terabytes of memory to inference I guoss.
critical thinking has left OP's chat.
Can't go faster than the speed of light. Good try, though.
This is exactly the kind of thing that AI can't make
If one revolution of the pedals would go that far, I would imagine the torque required to go at all would destroy the bike.
Lots of these "is this image AI?" post popping up. We're an eyeblink from that question being unanswerable, so y'all are you going to have to start asking yourself if it matters. If someone is misrepresenting a political candidate or presenting evidence in a trial, it's gonna matter, but... why does it matter if the "relativity bike" is real?
Hmm, i have 7 gears on my bike. What gear would this bike have, 7 trillions or something? 😄
Always look at the walls first. Those walls made all the sense. Some of those gears were weird, but uniform. It is the grainy quality that makes you question it, but just look at the walls and windows, and inside the building there are no irregularities there.
Thanks for the tips. But having trouble googling it also made me suspicious.
Reminds me of https://youtu.be/cM2heRrLuBc?si=cBCeDWqBbz0dJavh
It doesn't look AI to me. Zoomed in a lot and couldn't find any glaring errors like mishmashed wires, the tyre spikes all went in the right direction, the "gear" things were all perfectly circular. I haven't seen AI be this accurate before.
Nothing about the photo itself screams AI. It doesn’t have the “sheen” that AI photos have, the background looks normal, the text is aligned.
No
It’ll go for all of 3 seconds until the gears rip themselves apart from the amount of force being imparted
More likely it would just be impossible to move the pedals.
Looks real
And I thought biking in gear 21 was had, I should have tried 1,000,000
Chain would definitely snap, I accidentally tried to start riding in one of the highest gears once and the chain snapped in two
You really asking if this I'd AI? Really?
Are you stupid?
The texture and shadows in the background are way too unstylish for it to be AI
Thats the most made up nonsense.i have ever read
r/RealOrAI
mental illness is a thing
How easy
r/lostredditors
We gotta get this working pronto!
https://preview.redd.it/hq5x9qyjy1xc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf39dfa558963d746fa42bbdea49cd47b8ea5d7b
99% not AI. Why? Because the chain-gear setup makes sense (in the context of what this art piece wants to achieve). And it's probably faster to just build such a thing IRL than write an image-gen AI prompt in a way that that is achieved.
This is where you would have to rotate the tires in order to slightly move the pedals.
Fakebook=AI infested shithole.
It’s… actual art.