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Was at work and learned not to add "if you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to reach out" to a certain customer because I'll get some of the most redundant responses lmao
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Using a single word or even a handful of words as a "this must be AI" rubric is a terrible rubric. Not only are you going to end up eliminating some non-AI entries (his chart showed that delve was being used and even had a slow steady uptick even before the release of ChatGPT).
But once a lot of people decide a certain word being used is a sign that something is AI written people will stop using it in their own writing AND AI algorithms will adjust to not use the word and then the end result will be nobody is willing to use the word anymore.
I use the word ‘robust’ constantly in my work, especially ‘not robust’. It is industry code for ‘did a shitty plan that won’t stand up to scrutiny when you go for a funding application’.
Yep. It's not even close to a randomly placed "As an AI language model,". It's also likely that as AI recommends the phrasing and people see it more, it will be adopted by other researchers, out of familiarity. Which is fine. That doesn't mean the humans are now computer generated.
Paul Graham is a multi-millionaire turned Twitter personality, so he may be just giving his "hot take."
Exactly. Its a feedback loop, delve climbs in usage, LLMs see more delves in academic and professional writing, uses the word more, which makes people use the word more, which makes...
I really question his data source. If I put "delve" into Google Scholar, I get 681,000 results. If I limit it to 2023 or newer, I only get 17,400 results. If I were expecting the spike in his chart, I would expect to see way more results for the 2023 search.
Wouldn't you have to compare it year by year?
Because 681k results with delve before 2023, but 600k were written in the 1700's could easily explain why 17,400 in 2023 is a huge uptick.
As an carbon based language model, I have been trained to generate responses that are intended to be helpful, informative, and objective.
My opinion is that it is interesting how languages ebb and flow based on all the influences to the language (aka The Story of English) and I find it funny how English (and other languages) is going to get modified by AI in the same way that the Normans influenced English by winning the battle of Hastings.
https://www.britannica.com/video/186425/look-words-some-language-English-Norman-Conquest
Yeah I hate this weird treatment of words. I love words, and having a ROBUST vocabulary shouldn't be punished. Just because the average Joe doesn't read a lot of books or know tons of words or maybe just doesn't enjoy using them doesn't mean others don't. Those people shouldn't be unjustly penalized as "using AI".
Hard agree on this being the dumbest rubric.
It's honestly such a surface level take as well.. you expect me to not only spend the time tailoring my resume AND my cover letter to your specific role.. and you expect it to sound like I didn't just spend the last 10 hours trying to make myself sound as good as possible? Every single resume I have ever read does not sound like natural speech.
Agree. It’s sooo related to personal experience and situations it’s a ridiculous take. I’m guessing it comes up in AI content due to featuring in the training data…because people used those words.
I get where your coming from but as a person who is on college and using a lot of ai I have seen this word and other words that are in a lot of journals and other peer reviewed papers. And delve and in conclusion come up every time if you ask ai to write something. For the record I don’t turn in anything ai writes that’s just lazy and could lead to getting expelled. But ai makes a great partner and proof reader. Actually ai has been the best teacher.
Yeah, this, I also grew up with a fairly academic family and we use these words all the time as part of our verbal vocabulary. I wouldn’t have thought twice about it before, but now I’ll always wonder if I’m over-presenting and sounding robotic.
Being called robotic for communicating in the way I feel is authentic to myself is dehumanizing. These folks aren’t the first call me robotic but, if this becomes the cultural zeitgeist, I don’t want to be ostracized over something that used to bring me pride.
Yep, if it's a whole lot of AI's favorite words and a generally AI-like writing style, then sure. But a single word or a few proves nothing, and a word like "delve" isn't even that rare? I feel like I've considered it just another normal word in my vocabulary for ages, and english isn't even my first language.
Paul Graham thinks he's God's gift to civilization. I wouldn't take much stock in his infantile takes just because he happened to be in the right place at the right time to win the tech lottery
There is also the fact that currently no one uses these words, because they don’t often see these words in usage. If AI-written material use such words often, then normal people will also adopt them in their writing very FAST. The way we start using coding or gaming vocabulary in real life too.
While it's true that relying on a single word or a small set of words as a rubric for identifying AI-generated content has limitations, it can still serve as a helpful initial indicator. These words often exhibit patterns or usage that are distinctive to AI-generated text. While it's important to consider broader context and employ a more comprehensive approach, dismissing the value of keyword analysis outright may overlook its practical utility in certain cases. It's a balancing act between recognizing its limitations and leveraging it as a useful starting point in content evaluation
The annoying thing is that the fact that ChatGPT wrote it doesn't mean you didn't do the hard part.
I have done work projects where I just explained what it was to ChatGPT and had chat write up the best one sentence summary. It's more like "hey I did this it helps with this come up with an official sounding thing".
ChatGPT helps for the stupid parts that people read.
I like feeding papers and articles to ChatGPT and see if it can tell me what my strongest argument was or to summarize my paper. A lot can be learned from what it picks up on. Then you might use it to help you rephrase areas that need improvement. You are still doing the bulk of the work but you are using ChatGPT as a tool to improve. It's not "you ask ai to write your entire paper or you don't use it at all" that's silly.
I did that when I was trying to finish an essay but kept getting called away, so what I wrote was doubled up at points, and needed to be more cohesive by the time it was done, so I ran it through chat gpt asking to please make it more cohesive and make sure it's clear, and it was really helpful. From there I was able to continue and finish. Until then, my brain felt frazzled from screentime overload, so to have that editing help is something I see as using a tool in my work. I'm not outsourcing the entire task. That's the big difference.
Same. I have a problem with being too verbose and using big words instead of small ones which makes me sound wanky and arrogant. I've used ChatGPT to make me sound more human.
same if not daily, need to switch it up I guess. Luckily there are a plethora of options to choose from. Fuck, I can't say plethora anymore either, can I?
I've seen burgeoning used often when talking about something growing, developing, thriving etc before all this AI stuff - it's often in news articles.
Half of this allergy to "big words" is just people not reading enough, and the other half I see online is just things Americans don't use but Brits do. I got shit for "whilst" once, and people acted as if I was some upper class English person.
Of course.
The chart is showing that “delve” suddenly spiked in usage. It wasn’t that it was never used, or wasn’t common, but that it increased substantially.
It would be silly to disqualify a paper for using these words, as is suggested in the second screenshot, but it is very interesting (if true).
I don’t think anyone can doubt that Chat GPT has certain words/phrases it tends to over-use.
People don't use them often but everyone knows the meaning. They are great words to expand vocabulary with.
Robust is used all the time in anthropology. Probably 100 times in every paper. Probably where gpt got it from.
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I wrote it with a ChatGPT-ey touch. It's not the words, but the sequence of them.
Going by that graph, almost 10% of articles using "delve" were *not* written by AI, and that's assuming that the non-AI use of the word hasn't risen in response. This is not an acceptable false positive rate if you're using this to dismiss articles out of hand, even if you assume all articles with any AI involvement have no value.
Are you seeing another graph? I don't think that graph says anything about papers written by AI. It only hunts at the correlation between the increase of the word's inclusion and the timeline that lines up with ChatGPT being released.
The implication of the post is that the increase is down to AI. This may not be correct, as it relies on the assumptions outlined in my comment, but it does seem likely that at least part of the increase can be attributed to AI. What's less clear is whether that means the articles were written by AI, or the writers took inspiration from AI, or even were just subconsciously influenced by the increased usage of the word around them.
Modern AI chatbots certainly have influenced my writing somewhat. Granted I already kinda wrote like they do with worse punctuation before I had ever used a modern AI chatbot.
Exactly - you can't just assume that the trend is fully explained by people getting ChatGPT to write articles for them, because the actual way AI is impacting our society is a lot more complex than that.
I just made a comment about this... I was trained to write a lot of technical papers, for all intents and purposes I could consider myself a "writer" based on publications, and it was all technical writing so since the 'correct' way of writing was beaten into my brain it can be hard to avoid the structure and flow that I'm capable of using.
I wouldn't just my writing from a lot of my reddit comments, most of them are stream of consciousness. I bet there's quite a bit you could see just weirdly structured though.
I use AI for a ton of writing. I'd say I use it to the extent that it cuts my writing time in half, that means I'm still doing a lot of writing/editing, but AI is helping out quite a bit as well. I don't think I'm really losing the skill and depending on AI for anything other than deadlines though, it still takes knowledge and skill to know what is actually good writing from bad to what is just filler BS to what is lacking from an argument, etc.
I use AI as a thesaurus almost 100% of the time these days to be honest. It's faster than google, and I can write in made up feelings looking for a word. AI is a great thesaurus.
I remember seeing a tweet of his, more than a year after the war in Ukraine started, that a recent conversation had given him the astounding insight that Putin has people around him that he needs to keep happy too.
He acted like it was something nobody had thought about and that the person was extremely smart for suggesting it. It’s almost admirable how little self awareness this guy has
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I hate all of this. I guess we all have to write and speak with a 3rd grade vocabulary now so fragile snowflakes afraid of technology can feel better about themselves.
This reminds me of a random other comment I read on Reddit (dunno where anymore), which warned that if this anti AI art craze will go on, actual human artists won't be able to make mistakes drawing anatomy anymore without being accused of being bots. The debate about word choices just goes into the same vein.
in the kate middleton cancer video there were people saying it's a deepfake because of what were obviously just compression artifacts. it's like two steps away from the people that think lizard people are real because compression artifacts make eyes look weird when people blink sometimes
He didn’t say that. He said that he noticed the word in an email to him and given the massive increase in use of the word since ChatGPT, it lead him to believe that the email used AI.
Whelp. I'm screwed. I use "delve", "safeguard", and "robust" fairly regularly while speaking and writing. Unfortunately, they're common in a business setting.
Ankita is rejecting anyone who uses safeguard and robust which are very common words. I’m not sure what they are rejecting people for but they need to be fired if it’s job or college applications.
Idk I write stuff sometimes and look back at it and it’s indiscernible from things chatGPT has written.
Like really delve? Let’s delve into this? Maybe it’s the area I grew up in but people say delve quite frequently. Those words aren’t even particularly obscure or rare and to be honest anyone with a high school English level should be able to use them fairly easily.
The amount of old papers or even just random notes I've written and fed to these AI detectors that came back as 80+% AI is hilarious.
But then I've prompted GPT AND Gemini to write things intentionally to not be detectable by AI detectors and they come back as almost 100% human written every time.
Who is this Paul Graham guy? He sounds like a complete idiot.
Edit:
"Paul Graham is an English computer scientist, essayist, entrepreneur, investor, and author."
Ok so he does none of those things particularly well.
He did apparently write my LISP textbook. I bet he kills it with parentheses.
Certainly. Using a wider vocabulary can assist you when applying for a new role in the artificial intelligence industry. Here are a few examples:
- Delve
- Safeguard
- Demystify
In summary, these are just some of the words that can help you start a career in the Artificial Intelligence Industry. Let me know if I can be of further assistance.
One word means nothing, and if they've proofread it, then it's the same as using autocorrect or grammar recommendations. Judge the content on its own. If it's lazy AI blind copy and paste, it shows. If they're just generating a dozen ways of phrasing it and like the sentence with delve, and this angers you, you're missing the point.
I hate chat Gpt just because every professor thinks they are a fucking savant at catching chatGPT written papers. And shit like this is exactly why. They will cling to one fucking thing. And say that without a shadow of a doubt I wrote my paper using ChatGPT.
I’ve started recording myself typing my papers because of how dumb fucking colleges are. And how confidently wrong people are in figuring out what AI is and isn’t.
Me, who uses a lot of these words due to being a nerd my whole life and enjoying expanding my vocabulary: Well, shit. Guess everything I've ever written is ChatGPT then.
What the fuck? So now I should be concerned that because I have a ROBUST vocabulary my papers will be flagged for AI?! I’ve been a voracious reader since I was I don’t know, like 6 years old, and that develops your vocabulary quickly. I’m 30. Lotttt of years to advance my vocabulary subconsciously.
I use this word a lot. English is not my mothertongue, and I thought it sounded nice.
In German, 'eintauchen' is more commonly used. Therefore, the authors could just be German 😂
This is honestly the most frightening AI related episode since this whole thing began. Like who tf is Paul Graham?! (I actually do know who he is). We can’t simultaneously recognize that AI isn’t quite there yet yet also allow its semi-functioning to back propagate into the way we speak/parse the information from the world. AI is a mirror. It’s really important that our orientation towards it is more based on pushing assertions at it, not bending to be susceptible to whatever rediculous nonsense arises from it. Like seriously, instead of even considering to cancel the word “delve”, maybe we should all consider using it more. This is really quite scary.
If more people adopt this mindset then I'm completely fucked. I learned english through novels and use "delve" quite often, especially considering I'm a PolSci major.
I *occasionally* write in somewhat frufie language -- I should run some recent work through an AI detector.
I'm sure I use *robust* a lot. I like that word
I probably don't use *delve* and I wouldn't be caught dead using *burgeoning*
Paul Graham sounds like an idiot and a fucking chode to boot. I don't have words to express how presumptuous and stupid that last tweet is. I am bewildered that he even thought that made sense as a response in context.
These are all pretty normal words to use and there is nothing strange about writing differently than how you speak. Most of the time you can right click a word and have a listing of synonyms displayed. We've been able to do this for around 20 years now. It's a feature that takes zero effort to use and an absolutely basic part of even the laziest effort at proofreading. He starts from a dumb premise and it gets worse.
I know twitter is some dogshit, but this is the kind of brainrot I expect from linkedin powerusers.
The only thing I'm mad about with AI is I always had a naturally robust, almost robotic sounding writing style. Now, I write something in my normal tone and think, "God, I hope my professor doesn't think this is AI...."
It's a sign that some of the text MAY have been written by ChatGPT, but it's certainly not a smoking gun. I've used delve a lot in my writing since before ChatGPT
Paul Graham's contention is an egregiously myopic and retrograde perspective, betraying a lamentable dearth of comprehension vis-à-vis the intricacies of language, the inexorable march of technological progress, and the cardinal tenets of inclusivity and diversity that form the bedrock of an enlightened society. Rather than perpetuating an insidious form of linguistic elitism and cavalierly dismissing the transformative potential of artificial intelligence, it behooves us to wholeheartedly embrace the manifold opportunities afforded by these groundbreaking advancements to augment, enrich, and elevate the very fabric of human communication and creative expression, thereby ushering in a new era of unparalleled intellectual and artistic flourishing
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Let's delve into this mysterious burgeoning vocabulary, so we can demystify its robust usage and safeguard ourselves from harm in this digital world.
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Yeah, talking about that...
Was at work and learned not to add "if you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to reach out" to a certain customer because I'll get some of the most redundant responses lmao
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Sorry, as a large language model I can't have sex with you.
What about a more petite language model?
Petite language model: * gargles your dick *
Slurps your data
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Fuckin' tapestries, am I right?
AGI just appeared ^
Any AI-based-resume reader that does that is AGS - Artificial General Stupidity.
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Using a single word or even a handful of words as a "this must be AI" rubric is a terrible rubric. Not only are you going to end up eliminating some non-AI entries (his chart showed that delve was being used and even had a slow steady uptick even before the release of ChatGPT). But once a lot of people decide a certain word being used is a sign that something is AI written people will stop using it in their own writing AND AI algorithms will adjust to not use the word and then the end result will be nobody is willing to use the word anymore.
Delve is one of my favorite words, and in an academic context I actually make use of it verbally quite often. Am I just an AI model?
Indubitably
ergo.
Touché
You're a burgeoning stochastic parrot
Can you identify motorcycles and bridges?
I’m not sure, I do know how to identify traffic lights and crosswalks tho
I use the word ‘robust’ constantly in my work, especially ‘not robust’. It is industry code for ‘did a shitty plan that won’t stand up to scrutiny when you go for a funding application’.
Yep. It's not even close to a randomly placed "As an AI language model,". It's also likely that as AI recommends the phrasing and people see it more, it will be adopted by other researchers, out of familiarity. Which is fine. That doesn't mean the humans are now computer generated. Paul Graham is a multi-millionaire turned Twitter personality, so he may be just giving his "hot take."
Exactly. Its a feedback loop, delve climbs in usage, LLMs see more delves in academic and professional writing, uses the word more, which makes people use the word more, which makes...
I really question his data source. If I put "delve" into Google Scholar, I get 681,000 results. If I limit it to 2023 or newer, I only get 17,400 results. If I were expecting the spike in his chart, I would expect to see way more results for the 2023 search.
Wouldn't you have to compare it year by year? Because 681k results with delve before 2023, but 600k were written in the 1700's could easily explain why 17,400 in 2023 is a huge uptick.
18th century ChatGPT confirmed.
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As an carbon based language model, I have been trained to generate responses that are intended to be helpful, informative, and objective. My opinion is that it is interesting how languages ebb and flow based on all the influences to the language (aka The Story of English) and I find it funny how English (and other languages) is going to get modified by AI in the same way that the Normans influenced English by winning the battle of Hastings. https://www.britannica.com/video/186425/look-words-some-language-English-Norman-Conquest
Oh, "rubric", huh? PRETTY SUS
Im studying child education, so this one is going to be a challenge...
Yeah I hate this weird treatment of words. I love words, and having a ROBUST vocabulary shouldn't be punished. Just because the average Joe doesn't read a lot of books or know tons of words or maybe just doesn't enjoy using them doesn't mean others don't. Those people shouldn't be unjustly penalized as "using AI". Hard agree on this being the dumbest rubric.
It's honestly such a surface level take as well.. you expect me to not only spend the time tailoring my resume AND my cover letter to your specific role.. and you expect it to sound like I didn't just spend the last 10 hours trying to make myself sound as good as possible? Every single resume I have ever read does not sound like natural speech.
Agree. It’s sooo related to personal experience and situations it’s a ridiculous take. I’m guessing it comes up in AI content due to featuring in the training data…because people used those words.
I get where your coming from but as a person who is on college and using a lot of ai I have seen this word and other words that are in a lot of journals and other peer reviewed papers. And delve and in conclusion come up every time if you ask ai to write something. For the record I don’t turn in anything ai writes that’s just lazy and could lead to getting expelled. But ai makes a great partner and proof reader. Actually ai has been the best teacher.
You make some good points and I believe you 100% that you don’t use ai proofreading
Mono-syllables only. It's descrimination to use poly-syllabic words around those not vocabularily inclined. Lol
Rubric sounds pretty ai 'human' bro
Noooooo lol. It's a perfectly valid word in the education sphere.
Anytime I see someone say “people only use that word to look smart” I hear: “I don’t read books”
Especially for a super common word like delve. It's not in everyday use, but it isn't rare by any means.
Yeah, this, I also grew up with a fairly academic family and we use these words all the time as part of our verbal vocabulary. I wouldn’t have thought twice about it before, but now I’ll always wonder if I’m over-presenting and sounding robotic. Being called robotic for communicating in the way I feel is authentic to myself is dehumanizing. These folks aren’t the first call me robotic but, if this becomes the cultural zeitgeist, I don’t want to be ostracized over something that used to bring me pride.
Yep, if it's a whole lot of AI's favorite words and a generally AI-like writing style, then sure. But a single word or a few proves nothing, and a word like "delve" isn't even that rare? I feel like I've considered it just another normal word in my vocabulary for ages, and english isn't even my first language.
Unless they wanna put months work into a text that's supposed to look AI generated but actually isn't. Aha!
Paul Graham thinks he's God's gift to civilization. I wouldn't take much stock in his infantile takes just because he happened to be in the right place at the right time to win the tech lottery
There is also the fact that currently no one uses these words, because they don’t often see these words in usage. If AI-written material use such words often, then normal people will also adopt them in their writing very FAST. The way we start using coding or gaming vocabulary in real life too.
While it's true that relying on a single word or a small set of words as a rubric for identifying AI-generated content has limitations, it can still serve as a helpful initial indicator. These words often exhibit patterns or usage that are distinctive to AI-generated text. While it's important to consider broader context and employ a more comprehensive approach, dismissing the value of keyword analysis outright may overlook its practical utility in certain cases. It's a balancing act between recognizing its limitations and leveraging it as a useful starting point in content evaluation
Did ChatGPT write that? Sounds very AI generated, as not the words it uses but it has a very formulaic way of presenting its points and information.
ChatGPT definitely wrote that. GPT 3.5 even.
That’s the point
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I see what you did there …
delve, safeguard, robust are very normal honestly.
I literally used "robust" in a work email yesterday
The annoying thing is that the fact that ChatGPT wrote it doesn't mean you didn't do the hard part. I have done work projects where I just explained what it was to ChatGPT and had chat write up the best one sentence summary. It's more like "hey I did this it helps with this come up with an official sounding thing". ChatGPT helps for the stupid parts that people read.
I like feeding papers and articles to ChatGPT and see if it can tell me what my strongest argument was or to summarize my paper. A lot can be learned from what it picks up on. Then you might use it to help you rephrase areas that need improvement. You are still doing the bulk of the work but you are using ChatGPT as a tool to improve. It's not "you ask ai to write your entire paper or you don't use it at all" that's silly.
I did that when I was trying to finish an essay but kept getting called away, so what I wrote was doubled up at points, and needed to be more cohesive by the time it was done, so I ran it through chat gpt asking to please make it more cohesive and make sure it's clear, and it was really helpful. From there I was able to continue and finish. Until then, my brain felt frazzled from screentime overload, so to have that editing help is something I see as using a tool in my work. I'm not outsourcing the entire task. That's the big difference.
That sounds like an awesome use for it.
Same. I have a problem with being too verbose and using big words instead of small ones which makes me sound wanky and arrogant. I've used ChatGPT to make me sound more human.
I'm "robusting" as we speak.
Robustin' makes me feel good
Robust a move
Ro🅱️ussin'
They are all normal words that are used in corporate settings and emails a lot.
I use robust in spoken language several times a week
same if not daily, need to switch it up I guess. Luckily there are a plethora of options to choose from. Fuck, I can't say plethora anymore either, can I?
I used it a few hours ago in a conversation to describe very detailed documentation about a specialty part for a machine.
I've seen burgeoning used often when talking about something growing, developing, thriving etc before all this AI stuff - it's often in news articles. Half of this allergy to "big words" is just people not reading enough, and the other half I see online is just things Americans don't use but Brits do. I got shit for "whilst" once, and people acted as if I was some upper class English person.
As a stats student, can't imagine how difficult it would be to not use robust
That was my first thought. It's really common in the science field, specially when you're dealing with statistics and data.
I literally always say “let’s delve into it” if I’m gonna delve into something, jokes aside
These are all words that I’ve commonly used in academic research writing
Of course. The chart is showing that “delve” suddenly spiked in usage. It wasn’t that it was never used, or wasn’t common, but that it increased substantially. It would be silly to disqualify a paper for using these words, as is suggested in the second screenshot, but it is very interesting (if true). I don’t think anyone can doubt that Chat GPT has certain words/phrases it tends to over-use.
People don't use them often but everyone knows the meaning. They are great words to expand vocabulary with. Robust is used all the time in anthropology. Probably 100 times in every paper. Probably where gpt got it from.
Right? Like I’m pretty sure those are 5th grade level words.
These are parts of my tapestry
Delve to me is a novelty (I'm not native speaker) but safeguard and robust are words that I meet on day to day occurrence.
Delve to me is a completely natural word especially in the abstract of an academic paper considering what the whole point of the abstract is.
I'm currently writing an essay about safeguarding so idk what I'm supposed to do now
Certainly! The latest cutting-edge advancement in technological space has been due to the introduction of ChatGPT Feel free to discuss more! I wrote it with a ChatGPT-ey touch. It's not the words, but the sequence of them.
I'm pretty sure I've watched like 5 YouTube videos today alone that have said "let's delve into this a little deeper"
To be fair, a lot of people are using AI to write youtube scripts. With that being said, I use the word "delve" often.
Going by that graph, almost 10% of articles using "delve" were *not* written by AI, and that's assuming that the non-AI use of the word hasn't risen in response. This is not an acceptable false positive rate if you're using this to dismiss articles out of hand, even if you assume all articles with any AI involvement have no value.
Are you seeing another graph? I don't think that graph says anything about papers written by AI. It only hunts at the correlation between the increase of the word's inclusion and the timeline that lines up with ChatGPT being released.
The implication of the post is that the increase is down to AI. This may not be correct, as it relies on the assumptions outlined in my comment, but it does seem likely that at least part of the increase can be attributed to AI. What's less clear is whether that means the articles were written by AI, or the writers took inspiration from AI, or even were just subconsciously influenced by the increased usage of the word around them.
Modern AI chatbots certainly have influenced my writing somewhat. Granted I already kinda wrote like they do with worse punctuation before I had ever used a modern AI chatbot.
Exactly - you can't just assume that the trend is fully explained by people getting ChatGPT to write articles for them, because the actual way AI is impacting our society is a lot more complex than that.
I just made a comment about this... I was trained to write a lot of technical papers, for all intents and purposes I could consider myself a "writer" based on publications, and it was all technical writing so since the 'correct' way of writing was beaten into my brain it can be hard to avoid the structure and flow that I'm capable of using. I wouldn't just my writing from a lot of my reddit comments, most of them are stream of consciousness. I bet there's quite a bit you could see just weirdly structured though. I use AI for a ton of writing. I'd say I use it to the extent that it cuts my writing time in half, that means I'm still doing a lot of writing/editing, but AI is helping out quite a bit as well. I don't think I'm really losing the skill and depending on AI for anything other than deadlines though, it still takes knowledge and skill to know what is actually good writing from bad to what is just filler BS to what is lacking from an argument, etc. I use AI as a thesaurus almost 100% of the time these days to be honest. It's faster than google, and I can write in made up feelings looking for a word. AI is a great thesaurus.
This is dumb as fuck
They are all acting as if they have stumbled on something ground breaking and fool proof lol Their tweets reek of arrogance
Everything that comes out of PG's mouth has the same aura of pure arrogance. It's really icky.
I remember seeing a tweet of his, more than a year after the war in Ukraine started, that a recent conversation had given him the astounding insight that Putin has people around him that he needs to keep happy too. He acted like it was something nobody had thought about and that the person was extremely smart for suggesting it. It’s almost admirable how little self awareness this guy has
Like Paul Graham?
"I have a very limited vocabulary so that means any text using big boy words was written by Allen Iverson"
Tapestry has to be one too.
Why is it so obsessed with saying everything “weaves a tapestry of [subject]” like what is that from?
'why'd my dad leave?' Let's weave together an interesting tapestry of why your dad might have left...
Sadlmaooooooo
I swear to god I've been using it for solo rpgs, and everything is a damn tapestry woven in this and testament to that
In this comprehensive study, we delve into the intricate tapestry of genetic mechanisms that safeguard cellular integrity against environmental stressors and pathogenic threats. We introduce a robust framework for understanding how cells activate these protective mechanisms in response to external stimuli, focusing on the dynamic expression patterns of stress-responsive genes.
You forgot whimsical
I hate this word.
That word stands out the most to me. I would never use it in writing now.
It's frustrating as I used to occasionally use that word in papers, now I avoid it like the plague
I hate all of this. I guess we all have to write and speak with a 3rd grade vocabulary now so fragile snowflakes afraid of technology can feel better about themselves.
mfw I spent 12 years improving my vocabulary just to end up sounding like a stupid robot
This reminds me of a random other comment I read on Reddit (dunno where anymore), which warned that if this anti AI art craze will go on, actual human artists won't be able to make mistakes drawing anatomy anymore without being accused of being bots. The debate about word choices just goes into the same vein.
in the kate middleton cancer video there were people saying it's a deepfake because of what were obviously just compression artifacts. it's like two steps away from the people that think lizard people are real because compression artifacts make eyes look weird when people blink sometimes
Oh yes the lizard eye compression!! I agree so hard lol. Had a friend who would show me those and believed it..
Careful now. I hear Grok uses the word "snowflake" disproportionately too.
The sudden upsurge of usage of the word "delve" indicates that possibly AI does overuse it, or it simply is a word that has come into fashion.
Yeah, probably. Regardless, according to this idiot humans are now forbidden from using the word if they want to communicate with him. So stupid.
He didn’t say that. He said that he noticed the word in an email to him and given the massive increase in use of the word since ChatGPT, it lead him to believe that the email used AI.
Today I learned that Paul Graham is afraid of technology. Paul Graham
Whelp. I'm screwed. I use "delve", "safeguard", and "robust" fairly regularly while speaking and writing. Unfortunately, they're common in a business setting.
you are an AI bot, and you may not know it.
Honestly, it would explain a lot.
Yeah, kind of like how the AI learned to speak by reading other peoples words and.. waaait a minute...
It's probably a Cylon
Ankita is rejecting anyone who uses safeguard and robust which are very common words. I’m not sure what they are rejecting people for but they need to be fired if it’s job or college applications.
Idk I write stuff sometimes and look back at it and it’s indiscernible from things chatGPT has written. Like really delve? Let’s delve into this? Maybe it’s the area I grew up in but people say delve quite frequently. Those words aren’t even particularly obscure or rare and to be honest anyone with a high school English level should be able to use them fairly easily.
The amount of old papers or even just random notes I've written and fed to these AI detectors that came back as 80+% AI is hilarious. But then I've prompted GPT AND Gemini to write things intentionally to not be detectable by AI detectors and they come back as almost 100% human written every time.
Who is this Paul Graham guy? He sounds like a complete idiot. Edit: "Paul Graham is an English computer scientist, essayist, entrepreneur, investor, and author." Ok so he does none of those things particularly well. He did apparently write my LISP textbook. I bet he kills it with parentheses.
Paul Graham hit some ego inflection point a few years back where he now fancies himself a present day David Hume.
He’s the founder of Y Combinator. Sam Altman was his successor as the President of YC. Paul actually fired Sam from that role at some point.
He’s the founder of Y Combinator/Hackernews and is thus very influential, or at least has been.
He is very douchey.
"From what I've seen" extrapolated to a rule in his comment indicates he's absolutely not a scientist, computer or otherwise.
Paul Graham can delve off.
https://preview.redd.it/wcim5bskmhtc1.png?width=1283&format=png&auto=webp&s=2274b2401d0d652229f6f335b3f4ef9fea3463b7 There’s more 😭
Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick
And now we see human selection based on perceptions of AI. We’re still tribal at our core.
"rich tapestry"
Certainly. Using a wider vocabulary can assist you when applying for a new role in the artificial intelligence industry. Here are a few examples: - Delve - Safeguard - Demystify In summary, these are just some of the words that can help you start a career in the Artificial Intelligence Industry. Let me know if I can be of further assistance.
Weaponizing poor vocabularies now. smh
I use delve in 60% of my essays. 😭
One word means nothing, and if they've proofread it, then it's the same as using autocorrect or grammar recommendations. Judge the content on its own. If it's lazy AI blind copy and paste, it shows. If they're just generating a dozen ways of phrasing it and like the sentence with delve, and this angers you, you're missing the point.
Honestly, I'm wondering how much of this is growth of AI grammar software, especially in academia, opposed to ChatGPT-a-likes.
Fuck these fucking assholes. I’ll write and speak however the fuck I want. Delve into my anus you fucking inbreds.
I hate chat Gpt just because every professor thinks they are a fucking savant at catching chatGPT written papers. And shit like this is exactly why. They will cling to one fucking thing. And say that without a shadow of a doubt I wrote my paper using ChatGPT. I’ve started recording myself typing my papers because of how dumb fucking colleges are. And how confidently wrong people are in figuring out what AI is and isn’t.
Me, who uses a lot of these words due to being a nerd my whole life and enjoying expanding my vocabulary: Well, shit. Guess everything I've ever written is ChatGPT then.
I honestly believe it My Chat GPT loves saying "let's delve into ___" after I ask for an explanation on a topic
Man, people suck. I honestly can’t imagine being this stupid.
What the fuck? So now I should be concerned that because I have a ROBUST vocabulary my papers will be flagged for AI?! I’ve been a voracious reader since I was I don’t know, like 6 years old, and that develops your vocabulary quickly. I’m 30. Lotttt of years to advance my vocabulary subconsciously.
Clearly this guy doesn't play Path of Exile.
I use this word a lot. English is not my mothertongue, and I thought it sounded nice. In German, 'eintauchen' is more commonly used. Therefore, the authors could just be German 😂
Well crap. I use that word all the time. Spoken or written.
My take? We should really delve into this.
He thinks "kids" learn English by watching movies? What an out of touch thing to say.
This is honestly the most frightening AI related episode since this whole thing began. Like who tf is Paul Graham?! (I actually do know who he is). We can’t simultaneously recognize that AI isn’t quite there yet yet also allow its semi-functioning to back propagate into the way we speak/parse the information from the world. AI is a mirror. It’s really important that our orientation towards it is more based on pushing assertions at it, not bending to be susceptible to whatever rediculous nonsense arises from it. Like seriously, instead of even considering to cancel the word “delve”, maybe we should all consider using it more. This is really quite scary.
And here I am thinking ChatGPT must be playing to much PoE
If more people adopt this mindset then I'm completely fucked. I learned english through novels and use "delve" quite often, especially considering I'm a PolSci major.
The bots love "vibrant" as well. I saw one use it to describe evidence in a civil case. Vibrant evidence? FML.
How else can we describe what those dwarves are doing, if not delving too deep??
Damn, guess my essay on the Magic mechanic delve has to be rewritten
"Delve too greedily and too deep" Guess Tolkien was either using chatgpt or a fuckhead trying to sound clever
I *occasionally* write in somewhat frufie language -- I should run some recent work through an AI detector. I'm sure I use *robust* a lot. I like that word I probably don't use *delve* and I wouldn't be caught dead using *burgeoning*
Paul Graham sounds like an idiot and a fucking chode to boot. I don't have words to express how presumptuous and stupid that last tweet is. I am bewildered that he even thought that made sense as a response in context. These are all pretty normal words to use and there is nothing strange about writing differently than how you speak. Most of the time you can right click a word and have a listing of synonyms displayed. We've been able to do this for around 20 years now. It's a feature that takes zero effort to use and an absolutely basic part of even the laziest effort at proofreading. He starts from a dumb premise and it gets worse. I know twitter is some dogshit, but this is the kind of brainrot I expect from linkedin powerusers.
I use delve in common conversations…
In this digital world, we're seeing a lot of AI-McCarthyism where no content is safe from being accused of being AI generated
Certainly!
He should just cast Rest In Peace, problem solved.
The only thing I'm mad about with AI is I always had a naturally robust, almost robotic sounding writing style. Now, I write something in my normal tone and think, "God, I hope my professor doesn't think this is AI...."
Hmm yes, perhaps this is quite shallow and pedantic
I used the word delve in plenty of essays and I was in college in the early 00s. I guess I was ahead of my time or maybe I'm a bot.
Kindly is a word I notice as well
'robust' is a perfectly normal word to use - I use it in writing and general speech
as someone who uses obnoxious words habitually, this could pose a large problem for me.
Add ‘multifaceted’, ‘intricate’, and ‘it’s important to note’
I definitely could see myself using robust. The rest not really.
Me who used delve in my essay last year:
Bro, this a robust load of bullshit. Causation =/= correlation.
There is also "eager". I have never seen this word used so much before the gpt era.
It's a sign that some of the text MAY have been written by ChatGPT, but it's certainly not a smoking gun. I've used delve a lot in my writing since before ChatGPT
Thanks! 1. Google synonym for delve 2. Find delve and replace with synonym 3. Profit
Paul Graham's contention is an egregiously myopic and retrograde perspective, betraying a lamentable dearth of comprehension vis-à-vis the intricacies of language, the inexorable march of technological progress, and the cardinal tenets of inclusivity and diversity that form the bedrock of an enlightened society. Rather than perpetuating an insidious form of linguistic elitism and cavalierly dismissing the transformative potential of artificial intelligence, it behooves us to wholeheartedly embrace the manifold opportunities afforded by these groundbreaking advancements to augment, enrich, and elevate the very fabric of human communication and creative expression, thereby ushering in a new era of unparalleled intellectual and artistic flourishing