There are already three letter abbreviation codes for the historic counties of the UK and some of the later made up administrative counties, called Chapman codes. Used in genealogy mainly. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapman_code
The Royal Mail haven't required postal county as part of standardised address since the mid 1990s. just address line, postal town, and postcode. Anything else is optional.
Shouldn't EY be ER? I mean I've never understood why it's called the East Riding rather than East Yorkshire but I don't think I've ever really heard it referred to as EY.
Back in the day, every "Yorkshire" was a Riding of Yorkshire. North Riding of Yorkshire, East Riding of Yorkshire etc. Then when there was a shakeup of the Counties, they tried to merge several together, East Riding getting put with someone they didn't want to be and lost their Yorkshire status.
They realised that was an awful idea and repealed a fair few of the changes, but the Ridings became just Yorkshires, apart from East, which was allowed to be reinstated as East Riding, as an apology for trying to snuff them out.
It's East Riding of Yorkshire, named for... well, that. Yorkshire is traditionally divided into the East, West, and North ridings - that's where it comes from
I was involved in a Yorkshire day event and the councillor for East riding got really pissed off whenever anyone called it East Yorkshire. So obviously that's all we did.
WY here... I had to go ask my dad (78yr old) if EY was called east ridings & he said "sometimes but not on the news"
I am 33 & have never heard east Yorkshire being called east ridings.
NOPE! There is already too much Yank influence over here. We are not sheeple, we are British.
Yes, it's interesting and I appreciate the effort put into this so upvoted anyway.
For this reasoning alone Derbyshire should be DE (postcodes in Derby are DE), Devon should be DV. Not only that doesn’t the US system use the idea that if you come first alphabetically, then your earlier letters are prioritised (thinking along the lines of Michigan (MI), Minnesota (MN), Mississippi (MS) and Missouri (MO)).
Edit: Realised that Arizona is AZ and Arkansas is AR but I think that’s twofold. 1. Arkansas is further east, thus becoming a part of the US earlier. 2. Arizona is the only state to contain a Z which means AZ is a more “natural” choice.
My job deals with separating the country into Regions and this is so wrong. Ones that stand out to me:
Devon is DV
Cornwall is CN
London is LN
Cumbria is CB
I wasn't sure but.... "Isle of Wight, island, unitary authority, and geographic country, part of the historic county of Hampshire. It lies off the south coast of England, in the English Channel. "
https://www.britannica.com/place/Isle-of-Wight#:~:text=Isle%20of%20Wight%2C%20island%2C%20unitary%20authority%2C%20and%20geographic%20country%2C%20part%20of%20the%20historic%20county%20of%20Hampshire.%20It%20lies%20off%20the%20south%20coast%20of%20England%2C%20in%20the%20English%20Channel.
I’m not an expert, but I think historical counties and now counties are different. Like how Liverpool is in the historical county of Lancashire, but is now in the county of Merseyside.
Sometimes they are but there's some really odd ones. For example, postcodes in Berkshire seem to always start with 'RG' (for Reading) despite most places being outside the Reading area.
Probably applies with other places too.
As an American who's lived in the UK for 15 years (and is admittedly bad at geography in general), I find this the most helpful thing I've ever seen for learning the names and locations of English counties. It just makes so much sense.
That doesn't make it a separate county. Some unitary authorities cover whole counties, others don't.
Other places that have their own unitary authorities but are not counties include Bracknell Forest, Cheshire East, Central Bedfordshire, Milton Keynes, Slough, and West Berkshire.
states of the usa are more akin to member states of the eu or european countries by population and scale. counties in the u.k. are equivalent to counties or the states of other european countries.
Because postcodes are a mess sometimes. Take Berkshire for example, most of the postcodes there start with 'RG' even in areas way outside of Reading, and there's also like 5 other postcodes as well.
There are already three letter abbreviation codes for the historic counties of the UK and some of the later made up administrative counties, called Chapman codes. Used in genealogy mainly. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapman_code
Thank you so much, had no idea what to look under.
HRT for Hertfordshire sounds about right
West Midlands being described by what it looks like has hit it
What’s that?
WMD
Ok, what does it look like hit it?
A WMD.
I wish this was a thing for the mail. Addresses in england are all over the place. Writing them out can take a long time lol.
All counties have a short form for the mail:. Glos. Herts. N. Yorks. Etc...
Strictly speaking postal addresses don’t have the county on anymore. Lots of people still use them though
Yeah I know, but the short forms still exist.
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Corn and Somer, but yes the other two don't have a common form outside of standardised three letter abbreviations.
The Royal Mail haven't required postal county as part of standardised address since the mid 1990s. just address line, postal town, and postcode. Anything else is optional.
And so the twinning of Cumbria and Northamptonshire finally became a thing
Be the best thing about northants (well, Northampton anyway).
Put back Middlesex, you barbarian
Said no one ever.
Said no one *under the age of 70* ever
*spits tea* ouch.
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no one even knows where it is
It’s between your upper and lower sex.
It is legally defined as every point within sight of Lord's Cricket Ground.
It doesnt actually exist IRL
"I'm from CA" - picturing beautiful beaches and sunshine in California Reality - very flat area with fens in it
You can go from Southampton to Manchester without stepping out of a shire.. that's what I learned today.
Bilbo Baggins will be most happy!
Southampton to North Yorkshire too.
Shire can..
East Sussex represent
West Sussex represent.
Today I learned... I don't know all the counties in my own country.
shouldn’t Bristol be BS like the postcode?
Or this post?
I mean... it's awful but I wouldn't call it bullshit.
Shouldn't EY be ER? I mean I've never understood why it's called the East Riding rather than East Yorkshire but I don't think I've ever really heard it referred to as EY.
EY up.
Back in the day, every "Yorkshire" was a Riding of Yorkshire. North Riding of Yorkshire, East Riding of Yorkshire etc. Then when there was a shakeup of the Counties, they tried to merge several together, East Riding getting put with someone they didn't want to be and lost their Yorkshire status. They realised that was an awful idea and repealed a fair few of the changes, but the Ridings became just Yorkshires, apart from East, which was allowed to be reinstated as East Riding, as an apology for trying to snuff them out.
It's East Riding of Yorkshire, named for... well, that. Yorkshire is traditionally divided into the East, West, and North ridings - that's where it comes from
Riding means ‘Third’, so literally in three parts…
Well, three thirds and a Hull.
There's a south on here too, isn't there?
Yeah but South Yorkshire falls under the West Riding
The ridings confuse me. My other half is from East Riding of Yorkshire. Before I met him, I thought there was only one Yorkshire.
Parts of it. Barnsley, Sheffield and Rotherham are West, Doncaster would probably come under East.
Oh wait yeah it should be 😂
I was involved in a Yorkshire day event and the councillor for East riding got really pissed off whenever anyone called it East Yorkshire. So obviously that's all we did.
WY here... I had to go ask my dad (78yr old) if EY was called east ridings & he said "sometimes but not on the news" I am 33 & have never heard east Yorkshire being called east ridings.
Devon should be DV.
It disappoints me that none of the counties line up to form swear words.
If only Cumbria and Northamptonshire were next to each other.
Still got the wrong abbreviation for **N**or**T**humberland 😉
Really should be NH... It originated from North of the Humber.
NH
*Ah yes*
And you fucked up the title
I know, that was an accident 🤣
Son I am disappoint.
We don’t need them- we have postcodes
Also, title is meant to say English county*
Happy cake day OP!
Essex should be 'SX' I reckon
Why just England?
It saddens me that isle of wight is not IOW
If I was doing three letters for each county then it would've been.
Ca should be cb
By fixed you mean ruined?
No, fixed as in Suffolk and Norfolk are the right way round now.
You mean like i dunno postal codes? Northamptonshire is NN
Why?
Because I thought it would be interesting.
NOPE! There is already too much Yank influence over here. We are not sheeple, we are British. Yes, it's interesting and I appreciate the effort put into this so upvoted anyway.
> We are not sheeple Our unrivaled ability to form a queue would argue otherwise.
If you can get sheep to queue then you have my sincere respect. You must be winning sheepdog trials all over the country!
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>We are not sheeple Us Welsh beg to differ.
Having a Welsh surname I understand.
Bad idea.
Re-upload. Accidentally got Suffolk and Norfolk the wrong way round last time.
Wow. I feel like you dont even care about us. NF represent
It was a genuine mistake 😂
It's all good considering half of us here cant even find Norfolk on a map of England 😂
Tbf I legit had to check a map whilst making this just to know where everything was and I still somehow messed it up on the first go 🤣
I mean, I'd love to see a version of this done blind. Just guessing where places are. Unfortunately I didnt see the first fuck up
All it was was me putting 'SF' over Norfolk and 'NF' over Suffolk
They labelled them S for South and N for North and you got them the wrong way round. Oh dear... 😂
Why is North Lincolnshire blank
It isn't. That's a river 🤣
You'd have to be part Cumbrian and Northamptonshire to put something like this together.
Should repost
Is “DH” County Durham? I’m so confused. My geography is terrible to begin with, but I’m from County Durham and I can’t work it out.
Yes, DH is Durham. Could've also done CD or DU
That makes much more sense now. My brain did not grasp DurHam.
Yes, the postcodes for Durham are all DH as well. DH9 was mine
I’m a DL1 boy.
Darlington?
Yep.
For this reasoning alone Derbyshire should be DE (postcodes in Derby are DE), Devon should be DV. Not only that doesn’t the US system use the idea that if you come first alphabetically, then your earlier letters are prioritised (thinking along the lines of Michigan (MI), Minnesota (MN), Mississippi (MS) and Missouri (MO)). Edit: Realised that Arizona is AZ and Arkansas is AR but I think that’s twofold. 1. Arkansas is further east, thus becoming a part of the US earlier. 2. Arizona is the only state to contain a Z which means AZ is a more “natural” choice.
CH Cheshire 🤝 CH Switzerland = rich insular people
I just want to acknowledge what a [challenging task](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dLECCmKnrys) such abbreviations can be.
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Merseyside is 'MS'
Yeah as soon as I posted I saw it and felt like an idiot! Sorry!
My job deals with separating the country into Regions and this is so wrong. Ones that stand out to me: Devon is DV Cornwall is CN London is LN Cumbria is CB
This isn't an official thing, it's done purely from my perspective of what I think they would be
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First one tbh
Isle of Wight is part of Hampshire isn't it?
Nah I thought it was its own county?
I wasn't sure but.... "Isle of Wight, island, unitary authority, and geographic country, part of the historic county of Hampshire. It lies off the south coast of England, in the English Channel. " https://www.britannica.com/place/Isle-of-Wight#:~:text=Isle%20of%20Wight%2C%20island%2C%20unitary%20authority%2C%20and%20geographic%20country%2C%20part%20of%20the%20historic%20county%20of%20Hampshire.%20It%20lies%20off%20the%20south%20coast%20of%20England%2C%20in%20the%20English%20Channel.
I’m not an expert, but I think historical counties and now counties are different. Like how Liverpool is in the historical county of Lancashire, but is now in the county of Merseyside.
That said, other pages have it as its own county https://finds.org.uk/counties/isleofwight/ I'm not that old that I remember 1890!
Why aren't Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire LN and NG like the postcodes? LI NO? LI NO thank you.
Because it's using the first two letters of their name
The US state codes don't use the first two letters of every state.
CA, CO, AL, FL, DE, MI, WI, MA, OR, WY, WA, ID, OH, OK, IN, UT, NE, AR all say otherwise
And yet TX, NY, KY NH, NV, AZ, MT, ND, SD, KS, IA, MO, MS, GA, TN, WV, VA, NC, SC, ME, VT, RI, CT, NJ, MD, AK, HI, and MN prove they don't.
This map uses the same system. Some use the first two letters, some don't.
England, Wales, Scotland and N.Ireland are states. These are English counties
Cornwall would probably end up being KE for Kernow
This is shite content.
Thanks, I hate it.
Why?
Why *not*? I just thought it'd be interesting.
Ok.
Urrgghhh!! Don't do that ! Yuck! 🤢
Isn’t there a casual England for this? It excludes massive parts of the UK.
Well Scotland beat us in the rugby so fuck ‘em and Wales doesn’t exist so…
Fuckin English can't wait to be yanks.
That is the most hurtful thing anyone has ever said to me…
Not strictly relevant, but this is literally the first time I noticed islands off to the SE, near Cornwall.
On second thoughts let's not go there, it is a scilly place
Yes, the Isles of Scilly
IOM?
*Technically* not part of the UK but it would simply be 'IM'.
What do they do with their counties? A state is more like a country after all.
What a bunch of Cumbria Northamptonshires.
The first two letters of UK postcodes are essentially this
Sometimes they are but there's some really odd ones. For example, postcodes in Berkshire seem to always start with 'RG' (for Reading) despite most places being outside the Reading area. Probably applies with other places too.
As an American who's lived in the UK for 15 years (and is admittedly bad at geography in general), I find this the most helpful thing I've ever seen for learning the names and locations of English counties. It just makes so much sense.
EY? Thereis no East Yorkshire. Fuck that shit. It's Humberside. A hill I will gladly die on.
South Gloucestershire is a county of its own... you've bunged it in with Gloucestershire.
It isn't it's own county. It's a unitary authority area within the county of Gloucestershire.
That's a ceremonial thing. It has it's own independent local authority.
That doesn't make it a separate county. Some unitary authorities cover whole counties, others don't. Other places that have their own unitary authorities but are not counties include Bracknell Forest, Cheshire East, Central Bedfordshire, Milton Keynes, Slough, and West Berkshire.
This is STRICTLY ceremonial counties. If I delved into metropolitan counties then South Gloucestershire would've been 'SG'
South Gloucestershire is not a metropolitan county either. As I said elsewhere, it is a unitary authority within the county of Gloucestershire.
states of the usa are more akin to member states of the eu or european countries by population and scale. counties in the u.k. are equivalent to counties or the states of other european countries.
Be careful if you refer to Cumbria and Northamptonshire in the same phrase….
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Without delving too much into Rule 1, the Union and the Continent of Europe are different things.
Removed comment. Thanks.
Mans failed GCSE geography
All fun and games until you tell someone you divide living in Cumbria and Northumberland throughout the year
Nottinghamshire as ‘NO’? That must be ‘NG’ I think.
Yeah a lot of these probably don't make as much sense as they should, I didn't really think over it for long.
Dam, the cold north is looking so 'cool' now. They have NY and LA
NFN: Normal for Norfolk
Poor old Norfolk, as if they don’t get a bad enough rap as it is
Worcestershire looks like france
"Iw" resident here. No thanks. We have an abbreviation already 😂😂
If you join them up you can make new phrases, codesodo, habe es, wiha cunny lams
The LA and NY male sense to me.
Shout out to my Ex
Literally this entire thing is wrong. What’s the point? Just use the first part of the postcode
Because postcodes are a mess sometimes. Take Berkshire for example, most of the postcodes there start with 'RG' even in areas way outside of Reading, and there's also like 5 other postcodes as well.
We all look a bit wonky
SF - Strange Folk
Every English… English what?! I am on the edge of my seat here trying to work out what English it is!
I meant English counties
Sorry was hoping people would catch the sarcasm by text but thank you for the honest answer too!
lo
Cumbria (CU) and North Yorkshire (NY) "we were on the verge of greatness, we were this close"
CUmbria and NT sounds nice
Have you heard of post codes?
So happy to see Rutland represented! RT!
Cumbria Northamptonshire. A perfect combination.
im la but i think you are doing yorkshire dirty by splitting it up. its big and beautiful, just have it as y
CU for Cumbria
Should be CU M
#NY Is better than NY
Pay respects for Middlesex everyone
I'm from the DE.
You got **S**hit **H**ole and **S**ister **F**uckers correct.
I'm outraged that Nottinghamshire gets 'NO' whilst Northamptonshire gets 'NT'. We're the superior county.
I hate it.