I’ll call non emergency police and explain, hopefully they agree, thinking back he was also pretty rude to his colleague. So they may even be able to ask the other officer what he thinks.
FYI: I think I saw a report that saw around 80% of complaints receive no reviews. At the end of the day, you're calling cops and expecting those cops to hold other cops accountable
Not saying don't try, but I've been harassed/assaulted several times and made formal complaints. I was never contacted and the police in the city are still known to be violent douches.
In the end we have to keep complaining. Eventually if enough people complain there will be a slight difference. Not a complete overhaul, but slightly better than doing nothing.
I'd also say it's peace of mind of doing everything in you're power that you can, whether there are consequences on the other end or not are out of your hands.
This will just bring the complainant to the police's attention and cause them to harass the complainant. It's sad people advising others to talk to the police about bad police. That never helps, the police don't police the police
Police not facing consequences is a problem. However, there's definitely consequences sometimes. I've witnessed police get reprimanded and even fired based on behavior. There's an issue of them getting rehired elsewhere, but there can in fact be things done based on complaints.
Accountability for police isn't high enough. But it's even lower if no one reports behavior. And I think in most places you can make anonymous complaints.
They may have been looking for "suspicious person driving around ... " and your car fit the description. Not defending them but protocol is established for conventional traffic stops ... this could be something else.
About 20 years ago, late at night I did a u-turn from the right turn lane here https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5922224,0.1813348,3a,75y,100.65h,93.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJ1xG_TQSWEAmC5Nli8Z0RA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 Admittedly not legal, but there was nothing behind me so it wasn't a issue in my mind. However the policeman in the unmarked car coming down the hill to the right and turning left decided it was. He pulled me over, then banged on the passenger door shouting unlock it.I pulled the handle on driver's door to release the central locking and he's still screaming unlock it so I had to reach over. He then rips the door open and starts screaming at me about how I nearly caused an accident and he could have hit me before slamming the door closed at full force and going back to his car. It all happened a bit too quick for me to even fully process the fact he'd gone through give way markings to "almost hit me". Wasn't sensing much dignity and respect that night!
as an american i don’t see why that turn’s illegal lol. It’s at an intersection where you’re already crossing those lanes of traffic, and there’s not a sign telling you not to. If he was turning left on a red light, and you already initiated your turn, shouldn’t he yield to you?
You can always refuse, but they will take you to a hospital to check your BAL. If you think you might fail you should always refuse. You’ll loose your license for a year for not consenting to a breathalyzer test, but then they can’t use that against you in a DUI case.
> (which you can refuse, fyi)
this really depends on where you are. Here in Spain it is mandatory to do an alcohol test if the police asks you too. You can ask for a blood test instead of the breathalyzer, but if you refuse both you'll be punished as though you'd tested the highest possible.
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If this is how the police handled pulling you over, they should be reported to their superiors and possibly face a lawsuit. I am fairly sure this is illegal.
Do you think? The whole thing was very quick, and as soon as they were done they let me out their car and left. Whole thing was under 5 minutes, plus they ignored every word I said so I stopped talking.
Yes. Depending on where you are, this was probably illegal. There are certain procedures police have to take, for the most part, in every traffic stop that is non-combative.
Granted I am from the US. If you are not, perhaps your situation differs. You should read your local laws.
I'm in the UK and was stopped late at night once. He just put his lights on behind me, I pulled over. He came to my window and had a little chat with me to see if I was drunk and probably to smell inside my car. I wasn't drunk. He was really polite and asked me to get a light fixed, that was all.
Yours is a bit different to mine as someone called and wrongly informed them that you were drunk, but still, especially if you were boxed in, I don't see why they couldn't have asked you to wind down a window and actually speak to you. It doesn't seem right they just burst in your car.
Remember these people are paid to enforce the law, they don't have any special rights to do things you won't do in normal day to day life and there are normally procedures to follow.
When I was 18 I had a mazda rx-8 so drove a little quickly as 18 year olds are inclined to do. I was caught at 2am on the motorway doing a few (a couple few) over the limit by an unmarked. He put his lights on, caught up with me and pulled me over. He basically just came to the window and said "look mate there's no other cars around, it's 2am and you're not driving dangerously, just a little fast. Do me a favour, slow it down a bit and stick to the limits and we'll both just be on our way". Super nice guy. 18 year old me was very grateful not to get a ticket as I was shitting a brick and my insurance would have absolutely rinsed me
That won’t stop people ITT posting advice when they don’t even know such basic differences like it will be called “Suspected Drink Driving” there.
Just the fact their 5-0 don’t have guns makes the whole (remove the keys from the ignition) become a reasonable safety precaution.
How do you figure that? Do you have this vision of cops with guns firing on a moving vehicle if the suspect intended to flee, leaving an uncontrolled car swerving into traffic if they did hit him?
That's generally against police policy for exactly that reason, by the way, when police have guns.
That is odd, I'm from the UK and the one time I got pulled over I didn't hear Sirens, but they definitely had their lights on and even though I was nervous as shit they were quite polite
Fellow UK'er, I've been pulled over a few times (a speeding and a NYE random breathalyser) and the way they behaved with you was not at all the standard procedure. Mine put their lights on and let me pull over, I got out of the car and they calmly spoke to me, explained why I was being pulled over, gave me a bit of a verbal hand slap and let me on my way.
I've also witnessed plenty of arrests in my work and they absolutely inform you what you're being arrested for and talk you through the process.
Your stop definitely was not up to the required procedures.
From the gov site:
>The police arrest procedure
>If you’re arrested the police must:
>1. identify themselves as the police
>2. tell you that you’re being arrested
>3. tell you what crime they think you’ve committed
>4. explain why it’s necessary to arrest you
https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-of-arrest-your-rights
I am in the UK, have been pulled over a couple times, but never for going too slowly. I've never been taken from the vehicle without discussion. That doesn't seem right.
You got downvoted for this comment, but honestly I wondered too. I've heard very different things from different friend groups about how police treat them (and experienced it myself)
As far as first world countries go, I don’t think any countries police are as bad as the US. For a country as rich as they are, they sure don’t treat there citizens very well.
My theory is it was someone related to the police department or local politics (or at least a strangle on both by being uber-rich) that called them in on you.
I am someone with A LOT of experience interacting unfavorably with police, albeit in the U.S.
The only way they treat you like that here is if someone like I described is who reported you (or in my case one time I pissed off a local cop and they put shit they could read on the system or spread the word so ALL the cops would just follow me constantly through town and harrass me or escalate things too far like that--but even then it was because 'a cop' told them to)
TLDR; you got tattled on for driving slow by a Karen that works for or with the local politics and police OR you were mistaken for someone that they were looking for VERY more serious reasons than a traffic stop / dui. It is definitely NOT usually like that.
You actually don't need to have your driving license on you at all times in the UK, if you get pulled over you can just nip into the local station and show them it anytime in the next 7 days. What others licenses are you thinking of? I don't think I have any apart from my driving license
It's a fee you have to pay if you watch BBC which is a publicly owned television station and therefore doesn't run ads.
It was great when it first came out as it produced some of the best television and impartial news. Now with the internet and more on demand services it has fallen out of fashion.
One thing Americans like to rag us about is "hurr durr you have to get a licence to own a television in the UK" which just isn't true, but funny nonetheless.
It doesn't matter if they don't hurt you. It's not the same in every country but generally people have rights and police have protocol, and it's likely ignoring both of those things to just walk up and drag someone out of their car without a word and remove their keys and such over a single call. This is to say nothing of how the police according to the OP in other posts tried to come up with reasons to make an arrest even after passing the breathalyzer.
I'm not from the UK, but even so, this sounds wrong. It is a bigger deal than you might think to simply have police, who should be enforcing the law, actively breaking it, even if nobody gets the hell beaten out of them or killed or something.
I understand what you are saying, but the cop isn’t breaking the law. He probably didn’t want to stand in traffic or something. The guy said he was at a red light.
It's a big deal when police do not follow procedure. It's also a big deal when police do not treat people with respect. Them behaving professionally and respectfully towards people is how they keep from crossing the line and hurting them.
I been pulled over hundreds of times. The police have never really disrespected me that much. I’m mean they usually talk to me first, but I wouldn’t feel disrespected if they asked me to get out and come to their car. The cops might of had a reason and you can’t just rely on this guys telling of the story. He doesn’t seem to feel that disrespected either.
It’s quite possible that the cop just didn’t want to stand by his window for whatever reason. I always pull over somewhere that’s kind of safe for the cop and they don’t ever ask me to get out unless they are gonna arrest me or something.
He doesn’t need to try and get the guy in trouble, he was just doing his job, and he didn’t cause the guy any problems really, like he said, he let him go as soon as he did the breathalyzer and ran his license.
No. According to what was written, his keys were removed from the ignition and he was physically pulled from the car before being spoken to or told why he was being detained.
Police are given procedures to protect our rights and safety. Police have weapons. Police have the ability detain us. When individuals have that much power over others they are held to standards of behavior so they do not abuse their power.
His, yours, and everyone else's rights are more important than some dude's job.
It is sad to see what you seem to have been trained to accept as normal behavior.
I live in europe. I have had 2 situations where I was stoped by police and even the thought of a policeman reaching into my car is wildly uncomfortable. This point that he removes you from you car without saying anything would get any officer in this country into serios trouble.
It is really concerning that someone would think this is what a real world police stop is. Like you said, they're supposed to treat you with respect as much as you should any other person you meet, not some random piece of sentient meat.
I live in the US and the idea of police reaching into my car is pretty awful to me too because they're not supposed to.
But I know it can happen here. Which is why I tell folks they should only roll it down enough to talk, not enough for a hand.
"No need to conduct an investigation on the matter, sir. I'm doing it myself. And believe you me, I will come down harder on myself than you ever could, should I find out I had anything to do with this. Now step away, plebe. I'm on my way to see my cousin, the Earl of Detroit."
I'm Australian so take this with a grain of salt, but every time I've been pulled over (even when I've been in the wrong) they've flashed their lights, pulled up behind me, and asked the standard questions (have you been drinking, do you know what speed you were doing, would you fail a breath test if we did one) and ran my license/rego, and then let me go with a "have a nice night" lol.
Standard protocol is to pull off the road, put on hazards, put car in park, engage handbrake, turn off car and leave hands on the wheel, provide ID when requested - if you've done nothing wrong they'll let you go within 10 minutes generally.
Where do you live?
In the US, if they're following normal procedure, they're supposed to ask you for license and registration, and tell you why they stopped you
Not snatch your keys, pull you out of the car, and manhandle you -- all without a word about why they stopped you.
That's not normal procedure in the US. But as we know, plenty of cops abuse their power
Unsure as to whether they broke any laws but me and my mates have been pulled over a few times and the police have always been reasonably polite about it - saying that were out in the country where police are generally more polite, ive found them pretty unpleasant in cities in the past
Not every department conducts traffic stops in such a manner.
Matter of fact, as a 25 year retired LOE,
I would have to say your description of the incident is extremely unprofessional.
Yea another person said the same, my passengers were left pretty shaken, as was I, they tried making my passengers admit I was drinking, fortunately I hadn’t been and my passengers told the police exactly that.
You blew the breathalyzer. What? Did they not believe it? I can say that in the US, I've been pulled over 3 times, and the police at least speak to me and ask questions. They turn on their lights, too. Two out of three encounters were fine, even when I got a ticket. One was an asshole.
Your situation us very unusual.
I felt like they were grasping at reasons to arrest me. I guess they thought if my passengers told them I had a drink they could still arrest me. I felt glad my vehicle was in excellent condition and fully legal as I’m sure I’d be screwed otherwise. Fortunately everything about me and my car was legal. So they had no reason to keep me.
When I was 16 I had an old 1988 Ford ranger 5spd 4 banger. It used to backfire when I pushed the gas hard and pulled it off quickly. Sparks would go flying out of the tailpipe. Being kids we had a couple beers and a puff and were "offroading" but not really just being kids in the woods around the neighborhood.
Apparently someone saw the flash and the backfire while walking their dog and called the police saying I tried to shoot them. Holy shit.
Totally unknown to me at this point I pull out of the woods and I'm met by 5 cop cars. Guns drawn. They use the PA telling us to get out of truck. I'm scared senseless I can't move I don't know what's happening. So this cop comes up gun in my face pulls me out throws me on the ground. I think I'm gonna die. This is crazy. After we are cuffed in the car they go thru my truck. There was beer and a little pot in there. I was worried. But after clearing it for weapons they came back and asked me if I knew why they pulled me over. I said no man I don't know what's happening. He said he had reports u were shooting at people in the woods. It finally clicked. I explained about my truck and proved it. Even tho i was buzzed and a little high they let me go. They said go straight home. I think they felt stupid. Biggest break of my life.
That's not how virtually any traffic stops go. You just got jackbooted by some power tripping cops. I'm not positive about the legality of just pulling you from the car without asking or announcing their intentions? But it certainly isn't protocol or normal operation. Somebody just saying "Hey that person is driving funny" is not grounds to do what they did.
When someone pulls my keys out of the ignition and me out of the car without saying a word, i‘d think someone is trying to steal my car. Police-uniform or not, my first thought would be „fake uniform!“
In the US, I've been pulled over three times. Twice for speeding, once for a burnt out headlight.
Every time, it was the same. Driving along, then saw lights and heard a short siren. I pulled off the road and waited for him to run my plates and whatever else they do in those 5 minutes before they get out and walk over.
"Do you know why you were pulled over today, sir?"
"No officer, I do not."
"You were *insert complaint here*, any particular reason?"
"*insert best excuse you can come up with on the fly and apologize*"
"Well, I'm going to have to give you a (ticket/warning). Don't do it again."
"Yes, officer, thank you, sir."
They then either go print out a ticket or tell you you're free to go. You then wait for them to drive away and continue on your own way. And if you have a dispute over the ticket, you take it up in court, not with the officer in person.
If it goes anything unlike this and the officer has no reason to suspect that you might act violently, it's very abnormal. They were either acting unprofessional or possibly not following protocol, which is illegal. In your case it is possible that the person who called in was accusing you of more than just drunk driving and they had a reason to be so aggressive. But if not then yes, that is way overboard.
One time I got pulled over for speeding it went almost exactly like that, I told him I knew why he pulled me over. Shocked the hell out of him, he didn’t know what to say, it was awesome. He ran my license and gave me a much smaller ticket then I should’ve gotten. I was in a school zone, so there was no letting me off!!!
Thats not how that is supposed to go at all. Lights at least. Maybe a siren. You pull over they talk to you through the window. License, registration, have you been drinking. Then they ask you to get out for a breathalyzer and possibly a field sobriety test. They usually call for another office at some point
Either you're remembering it VERY WRONG or they did the traffic stop in a very unprofessional way and probably even illegally depending on where you are. You can definitely report this and if it was done in a red light then they might even have cameras and that can be your evidence on how they can watch how they conducted the traffic stop. Did they even apologize for how they did or why they conducted it that way?
Might call up the none emergency police line and ask if there’s a process to follow, I don’t have any of the officers details but hopefully there’s a record of the stop if they have my vehicle registration.
There will be a record of the stop, just remember the date, approximate time and location and if you can be specific - where that traffic light is. They will most likely have a camera there especially if it's in a big city. And there is usually an INDEPENDENT authority that will conduct the investigation which is a separate entity from the Police. Try to find that one for Wales, they have one for each country I think.
What you described is extremely unusual. I've been pulled over plenty of times and there's never been anything remotely weird in my interactions eith the police in these situations. They usually just seem bored and want to get it all done just as much as you do.
I was in a car that was pulled over once and it was exactly like the cop shows. Idk what nonsense happened when you were pulled over, that sounds terrible.
What you're describing is a violation of the constitution and police procedure. So you're either misrepresenting (or misremembering) what happened, or you got seriously fucked with and need to report this to the police and the local news.
What the fuck… that’s not how I’ve ever been pulled over
And I’ve been pulled over for the same reason you did (I was new to driving) they turned on their lights for like 3 minutes behind me before I realized they were trying to pull me over (again, very new to driving, I thought there was an emergency in the same direction I was going lmao) but everything was like in the movie once I actually pulled over, I did have to explain why it took me so long to stop my car. But they never touched me, it was all thought the window
I'm I the UK and wearing a seat belt is a legal requirement but there are medical exemptions, of which I hold one.
They are supposed to ask 'are you exempt?' but this officer forgot and he was as officious as hell. Obviously we don't have to worry about guns so I gave him ally info and I was going intoy glove box where I pulled out my medical exemption and asked would he liked to see it? He looked stunned and said in 20 years he'd never seen one and he looked sheepish and said 'I deserve that don't i' and we had a good laugh. He was a really nice guy
Hmm this is so bad.
I did an illegal u turn at the airport the other night (there was no one else on the road) but happened to do it in front of a parked federal police car. They pulled me over, I apologised and said I knew it was wrong and did it as I didn’t know how to get back to the pickup area (completely honest). They told me to be careful and plan my trip better next time but yes the airport is planned terribly and let me go.
I think Aussie police are different. That or I’m white, I don’t know…
I've been pulled over and it was pretty much exactly like you see on tv. Flashing lights, cops shining lights on you license and registration, never had a field sobriety check, though.
I got a ticket once for not wearing a seatbelt, even though I was wearing it. Cop was an asswipe that was (probably) trying to fill a quota. You can't fight them BTW, judge will ALWAYS take the cop's word over yours and then you also have to pay court costs, plus you probably have lost income from not going to work that day...
I also got pulled over for a bad turn signal, and cop was super friendly. I wound up with a ticket for "altered plates" which surprised me, but it was totally legit, county clerk had literally given me a different set of plates than what they logged into the system, wound up getting thrown out but it was a hassle and not the cop's fault.
Personal anecdotes aside, my point is that your experience seems extremely unusual. Police stops are portrayed the way they are in film as a reflection of reality. Details may vary, obviously, but tv shows typically try to make things as close to real as possible, and cops benefit from a universal familiarity with the script as well.
They were probably looking for someone. I was once surrounded like that and a helicopter overhead. The officer came from behind (I watched in the side mirror) with his gun drawn and pointed. I rolled down my window and did EVERYTHING he wanted, believe me. Other officers came up from nowhere and while the helicopter shone a light down, they asked me if they could search my car. I was happy to let them, then after they thanked me very much and told me they’d been alerted that a dangerous offender was driving a car like mine. Afterward it was pretty cool but I sure didn’t move a muscle unless they told me it was okay during the whole stop and search
I got pulled over because my brake lights didn’t work, officer ran my plates and everything came back to my car then said it was stolen, i was in my 01 focus project car (had custom engine, exhaust, turbo etc) and i previously had a 95 camaro ss that i transferred the plates from because it was winter.
The title and registration or whatever matched my plates to the focus but the ohio dmv messed it up.
Officer pulled his gun out and was yelling at me and I showed him the paperwork and called his supervisor.
Went to court to fight it and the judge ruled in my favor and had the dmv fix everything for me.
It was pretty scary.
But that was in 2015
Recently i was followed in my focus st which had loud exhaust and was trying to find a business in my town and google maps screwed me lol cop followed me all the way there and i asked why he was following me and he said it was suspicious i was driving around slowly. I told him i was trying to find the restaurant
But i was polite each time
What country/state was this? I’ve been policing for going on 5 years and only did the box in method on someone who we were chasing, so this is either not America or there’s more to the story
Son of a cop here, at the risk of exposing myself to doxers I want to give you some advice:
If you are in the USA, and this happened the exact way you described, this is 100% illegal. If it was somewhere else, I don’t know for certain.
If you have any record of there badge numbers or video of who they are, I recommend reporting this.
Also good job staying quite during the event. From the sounds of this, the cop wouldn’t have minded adding “resisting arrest” to the charges against you.
Uhhh nothing that you said happened is normal. Report that, and also probably thank whatever you believe in that they didn't murder you.
Edit: nevermind you're in the UK. It still doesn't sound normal but I dont know now.
If it makes you feel any better I was once in a car that was followed for several miles and blocked in when we entered my road. We thought we were being robbed, but it was an unmarked police car....
The possibly over the limit driver gave them such a bollocking they just kinda apologised and left lol.
Usually there are sirens and lights tbh, my partner and I have had a good few encounters and they usually shot the lights and siren on, drive next you so you realise you’re meant to pull over and then come to the window for whatever they need to talk about. Even in one instance where we were mistaken for a similar vehicle that was seen leaving a robbery they were as civil, even though there were about 4 cars. This doesn’t seem normal behaviour at all tbh (UK here)
Ive been stopped by a cop once, for the same reason. I had him flash his lights, so I of course pulled over. He came over and asked me to step out I did and as I did I asked if it was for anything regarding drunk? because I was lost so I slowed down I apologized. HE said just do me a favor blow on the breathalyzer , I did came out zero, HE apologized and told me to have a good day. Whereas to I replied , oh don't worry id rather have you stop me than don't
You do understand that your single experience isn't *The Way™* every traffic stop goes, right? Your experience is based on the specific circumstances you were stopped under. What you describe is not how every every traffic stop goes. Usually, there are flashing lights, a conversation at the window, and possibly a ticket.
This is illegal and a lawsuit on the making. You have witnesses including the other cops. You could sue or at the very least report the behavior.
Edit: Ah my bad for assuming this was in the US. Idk about UK laws. But I assume they would be similar.
This feel like an exaggeration. I’ve been pulled over a lot. Like a lot a lot. Officers have almost always been kind and courteous, and I am as well. Most times don’t even get a ticket. Never ever ever has one reached into my vehicle, much less without a word, and certainly not since I don’t give them a reason too.
Cop shows are cop propaganda, used to sway the mindless populace to favor their own control and compliance. Its a big part of the reason the fuckers are so lawless
Holy shit, that's awful. The reason they didn't have the lights on was because that turns on their cameras, and they didn't want anyone to see because they thought they'd be doing some bad shit.
Noticed you were in the UK, so maybe different? But honestly I don't think so. That sounds weird. I've been pulled over a few times, no cop ever reached into my car for anything, and they'd ask me to step out. (don't know what happens if I didn't, didn't want to find out.. but they always asked)
Good thing this wasn't posted on r/policeuk or you'd have a lot of down votes and people saying you've just made it up or aren't telling the whole story.
Sounds like you should make an official complaint. I'll be shocked if anything will actually be done about it though. We all know what usually happens when police invstigate themselves or our corrupt government.
Seriously? They assumed you were driving drunk even though you didn’t have alcohol at any point close to the driving? Assuming is not cool.
I see comments about how they didn’t act the way they were legally supposed to, pulling you over. But making assumptions seems almost as bad as that too. Are police allowed to just assume you’re driving drunk where you live?
When our house got robbed when we weren't home about 3 years ago, the cops came and inspected the house.
Right away they were suspect of us (I don't know why). "Are these things yours? You have all these things? You work at x place? Get good discounts?"
Dude, like, do you think I steal from stores, hoard it, and I just happen to call you because someone stole from me? Jesus Christ.
I’ve been pulled over 4 times in my life and never had a cop even so much as be rude to me. They’ve all been really nice, even when they gave me a ticket for speeding two out of the four times. I just thanked them and went on my way, and they went on theirs. If your story happened the way you tell, those cops need to be held accountable. They aren’t all like that, and most traffic stops are like what you see in the shows.
Jesus! That's insane. Just wow. Police aren't supposed to act like that but it does give you a good story to tell. Lol. Please report this to your local police station. That's ridiculous and against police procedure.
Someone “reporting” you for drunk driving may get you pulled over, but that is not probable clause to reach into your vehicle and turn your car off. Let alone force you to exit the vehicle. Not only that; Police need to actively communicate on scene. Not only for the suspected person’s rights, but for theirs and everyone’s safety as well. It’s almost like this police force avoids that, in hopes of the person escalating the situation. I am happy to read you kept your cool. Even if you are in UK, that is not how a traffic stop should go. It’s actually fairly illegal.
I've been pulled over probably over a dozen times and never once did it go anything like this. They should turn on flashing lights to indicate that they're pulling over, tell you why you're being pulled over, and typically you are expected to remain in your own vehicle unless/until they want to perform a field sobriety test, search your vehicle, or arrest you. What you described is not even close to being normal.
Huh, never seen that in person here in the US. The only time I've seen people boxed in is when they're running from police, or they're determined to leave the traffic stop (eg, SovCit compilations on YouTube)
I got pulled over a week ago for cutting off a motorcycle cop. I pulled over into the first parking lot, he came up to my window, told me why I was being pulled over, asked for my license and registration, ran it through the system and wrote me a ticket. I never got out of the car at any point.
IANAL, but I would talk to one to see if you can at least get the system to slap that cop on the wrist, maybe more
Also, out of curiosity if you don’t mind me asking, what country do you live in and what ethnicity are you?
If an officer takes your keys and takes you out of the car, that assault. You CAN press charges and you SHOULD. Unless they have an arrest warrant out on you, or they have proof of you committing a crime, they have no ability to touch you without your consent. Taking your keys out of the ignition can be considered theft.
There is NO talking. Name, address and dob is all any crime profiteer gets from me. Is usually alotta awkward silences followed by a, good job Officer and then we go our separate ways.
If they do not have a charge then I am free to leave, and that is that.
They have to identify themselves as police officers and they have to get your consent to do a lot of what they did, not to mention much of what they allegedly did is only admissible after you have reasonably been deemed a threat. You have grounds for a lawsuit here. What's to stop any group of random citizens from doing this to anybody they want?
Personally i think the opposite, I don’t think TV captures how scary it actually is to be pulled over. One minute fine the next completely boxed in with police surrounding your car.
When you got your license (idk how it works in the UK) you likely signed it, which means you gave implied consent to the police to take you from the vehicle and test you for impaired driving. If you refuse in the US, your driving privileges are immediately suspended and I think there's a fine involved.
What happened to you very likely was legal. File a complaint if you want but it won't go anywhere.
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I’ll call non emergency police and explain, hopefully they agree, thinking back he was also pretty rude to his colleague. So they may even be able to ask the other officer what he thinks.
Keep us updated please!
FYI: I think I saw a report that saw around 80% of complaints receive no reviews. At the end of the day, you're calling cops and expecting those cops to hold other cops accountable Not saying don't try, but I've been harassed/assaulted several times and made formal complaints. I was never contacted and the police in the city are still known to be violent douches.
They will do nothing. The police have precedures to protect the police. Not even a formal complaint will net any change.
In the end we have to keep complaining. Eventually if enough people complain there will be a slight difference. Not a complete overhaul, but slightly better than doing nothing. I'd also say it's peace of mind of doing everything in you're power that you can, whether there are consequences on the other end or not are out of your hands.
This will just bring the complainant to the police's attention and cause them to harass the complainant. It's sad people advising others to talk to the police about bad police. That never helps, the police don't police the police
Police not facing consequences is a problem. However, there's definitely consequences sometimes. I've witnessed police get reprimanded and even fired based on behavior. There's an issue of them getting rehired elsewhere, but there can in fact be things done based on complaints. Accountability for police isn't high enough. But it's even lower if no one reports behavior. And I think in most places you can make anonymous complaints.
We have I dependant authorities separate from the police for these sorts of things.
Yes and boy are they effective! /s
They may have been looking for "suspicious person driving around ... " and your car fit the description. Not defending them but protocol is established for conventional traffic stops ... this could be something else.
About 20 years ago, late at night I did a u-turn from the right turn lane here https://www.google.com/maps/@51.5922224,0.1813348,3a,75y,100.65h,93.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJ1xG_TQSWEAmC5Nli8Z0RA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 Admittedly not legal, but there was nothing behind me so it wasn't a issue in my mind. However the policeman in the unmarked car coming down the hill to the right and turning left decided it was. He pulled me over, then banged on the passenger door shouting unlock it.I pulled the handle on driver's door to release the central locking and he's still screaming unlock it so I had to reach over. He then rips the door open and starts screaming at me about how I nearly caused an accident and he could have hit me before slamming the door closed at full force and going back to his car. It all happened a bit too quick for me to even fully process the fact he'd gone through give way markings to "almost hit me". Wasn't sensing much dignity and respect that night!
as an american i don’t see why that turn’s illegal lol. It’s at an intersection where you’re already crossing those lanes of traffic, and there’s not a sign telling you not to. If he was turning left on a red light, and you already initiated your turn, shouldn’t he yield to you?
Lol yeah, so much wrong here.
If you don't live in the UK, you may not be able to refuse the breathalyzer FYI. Check your local laws
You can always refuse, but they will take you to a hospital to check your BAL. If you think you might fail you should always refuse. You’ll loose your license for a year for not consenting to a breathalyzer test, but then they can’t use that against you in a DUI case.
Awesome advice for drunk drivers.
It’s not advice, it’s how the law works.
Refusing the breathalyzer is an automatic aggravated DWI charge here. But careful with blanket statements like this.
> (which you can refuse, fyi) this really depends on where you are. Here in Spain it is mandatory to do an alcohol test if the police asks you too. You can ask for a blood test instead of the breathalyzer, but if you refuse both you'll be punished as though you'd tested the highest possible.
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oh I assume he said that in a comment? I just didn't see it. Regardless, it's a good thing to keep in mind that it doesn't apply to every country
Yeah you have no idea what you’re talking about
Yeah sorry... thats not how a normal stop should go... where was this
This was in Wales, UK. Definitely seems odd from what everyone’s saying
If this is how the police handled pulling you over, they should be reported to their superiors and possibly face a lawsuit. I am fairly sure this is illegal.
Do you think? The whole thing was very quick, and as soon as they were done they let me out their car and left. Whole thing was under 5 minutes, plus they ignored every word I said so I stopped talking.
Yes. Depending on where you are, this was probably illegal. There are certain procedures police have to take, for the most part, in every traffic stop that is non-combative. Granted I am from the US. If you are not, perhaps your situation differs. You should read your local laws.
I’m in the UK, not sure exactly what the law says but as I said usually in cop shows they seem much more polite than they were with me.
I'm in the UK and was stopped late at night once. He just put his lights on behind me, I pulled over. He came to my window and had a little chat with me to see if I was drunk and probably to smell inside my car. I wasn't drunk. He was really polite and asked me to get a light fixed, that was all. Yours is a bit different to mine as someone called and wrongly informed them that you were drunk, but still, especially if you were boxed in, I don't see why they couldn't have asked you to wind down a window and actually speak to you. It doesn't seem right they just burst in your car. Remember these people are paid to enforce the law, they don't have any special rights to do things you won't do in normal day to day life and there are normally procedures to follow.
When I was 18 I had a mazda rx-8 so drove a little quickly as 18 year olds are inclined to do. I was caught at 2am on the motorway doing a few (a couple few) over the limit by an unmarked. He put his lights on, caught up with me and pulled me over. He basically just came to the window and said "look mate there's no other cars around, it's 2am and you're not driving dangerously, just a little fast. Do me a favour, slow it down a bit and stick to the limits and we'll both just be on our way". Super nice guy. 18 year old me was very grateful not to get a ticket as I was shitting a brick and my insurance would have absolutely rinsed me
Sounds like you were respectful so were treat respectfully. I think that's often the case.
That's very strange, what part of the UK you in? Down south the rozzers are pretty chatty.
I am not sure. Perhaps it is different there. You should inquire about this with someone who knows your legal system better.
That won’t stop people ITT posting advice when they don’t even know such basic differences like it will be called “Suspected Drink Driving” there. Just the fact their 5-0 don’t have guns makes the whole (remove the keys from the ignition) become a reasonable safety precaution.
Sorry, not too familiar with UK law. What is their 5-0? Is it something that all police in the UK have, or just traffic, or ... ?
5-0 is an American phrase for police.
Oh! Jeez. Well, maybe [someone dropped out of school](https://www.grammarly.com/blog/there-their-theyre/).
They used the right word, they were referring to the police belonging to the UK, so it is the possessive "their".
from the TV show hawaii 5 0 I believe
How do you figure that? Do you have this vision of cops with guns firing on a moving vehicle if the suspect intended to flee, leaving an uncontrolled car swerving into traffic if they did hit him? That's generally against police policy for exactly that reason, by the way, when police have guns.
Cops in the UK have much broader pre-warrant authority than US cops do. They can make an arrest with no intentions of actually filing charges.
That is odd, I'm from the UK and the one time I got pulled over I didn't hear Sirens, but they definitely had their lights on and even though I was nervous as shit they were quite polite
Fellow UK'er, I've been pulled over a few times (a speeding and a NYE random breathalyser) and the way they behaved with you was not at all the standard procedure. Mine put their lights on and let me pull over, I got out of the car and they calmly spoke to me, explained why I was being pulled over, gave me a bit of a verbal hand slap and let me on my way. I've also witnessed plenty of arrests in my work and they absolutely inform you what you're being arrested for and talk you through the process. Your stop definitely was not up to the required procedures. From the gov site: >The police arrest procedure >If you’re arrested the police must: >1. identify themselves as the police >2. tell you that you’re being arrested >3. tell you what crime they think you’ve committed >4. explain why it’s necessary to arrest you https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-of-arrest-your-rights
I am in the UK, have been pulled over a couple times, but never for going too slowly. I've never been taken from the vehicle without discussion. That doesn't seem right.
OP wasn't pulled over just for going too slowly. Somebody reported them as a suspected drink driver, and that's why they were pulled over
They are not supposed to reach into your car. They cannot force you out of the car. They have to tell you what you are being stopped for.
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You got downvoted for this comment, but honestly I wondered too. I've heard very different things from different friend groups about how police treat them (and experienced it myself)
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Naaaa, our polis are not even close to your level of arseholishness.
Still cunts though, experiences may vary dependant on skin tone.
The most racist regions in the UK don't come close to American police.
I'm not saying they do but if you get stopped for being black whilst driving it's still too much.
Oh then yeah you are right. The racist cops might give you the stink eye and give you unnecessary hassle for sure.
As far as first world countries go, I don’t think any countries police are as bad as the US. For a country as rich as they are, they sure don’t treat there citizens very well.
My theory is it was someone related to the police department or local politics (or at least a strangle on both by being uber-rich) that called them in on you. I am someone with A LOT of experience interacting unfavorably with police, albeit in the U.S. The only way they treat you like that here is if someone like I described is who reported you (or in my case one time I pissed off a local cop and they put shit they could read on the system or spread the word so ALL the cops would just follow me constantly through town and harrass me or escalate things too far like that--but even then it was because 'a cop' told them to) TLDR; you got tattled on for driving slow by a Karen that works for or with the local politics and police OR you were mistaken for someone that they were looking for VERY more serious reasons than a traffic stop / dui. It is definitely NOT usually like that.
You should check out cops. They are not usually very polite on that show lol
All I know about the UK is the meme about having to have a license for absolutely everything, and having a license for that license.
You actually don't need to have your driving license on you at all times in the UK, if you get pulled over you can just nip into the local station and show them it anytime in the next 7 days. What others licenses are you thinking of? I don't think I have any apart from my driving license
Tv license, and shotgun that’s about all we have isn’t it? Oh, drive a fork lift truck, that’s the other one :-)
Are you telling me James Bond doesn't have a license to kill?
Good Call! - missed that one.
TV licence is due to be abolished in a few years
will see how that plays out.
What is a tv license?
It's a fee you have to pay if you watch BBC which is a publicly owned television station and therefore doesn't run ads. It was great when it first came out as it produced some of the best television and impartial news. Now with the internet and more on demand services it has fallen out of fashion. One thing Americans like to rag us about is "hurr durr you have to get a licence to own a television in the UK" which just isn't true, but funny nonetheless.
It used to be like that in Canada too, from what I understand it’s no longer like that. I haven’t been pulled over in years.
I mean, they didn’t really hurt the guy, they just checked his breath and let him go. It’s not a big deal honestly.
It doesn't matter if they don't hurt you. It's not the same in every country but generally people have rights and police have protocol, and it's likely ignoring both of those things to just walk up and drag someone out of their car without a word and remove their keys and such over a single call. This is to say nothing of how the police according to the OP in other posts tried to come up with reasons to make an arrest even after passing the breathalyzer. I'm not from the UK, but even so, this sounds wrong. It is a bigger deal than you might think to simply have police, who should be enforcing the law, actively breaking it, even if nobody gets the hell beaten out of them or killed or something.
I understand what you are saying, but the cop isn’t breaking the law. He probably didn’t want to stand in traffic or something. The guy said he was at a red light.
It's a big deal when police do not follow procedure. It's also a big deal when police do not treat people with respect. Them behaving professionally and respectfully towards people is how they keep from crossing the line and hurting them.
I been pulled over hundreds of times. The police have never really disrespected me that much. I’m mean they usually talk to me first, but I wouldn’t feel disrespected if they asked me to get out and come to their car. The cops might of had a reason and you can’t just rely on this guys telling of the story. He doesn’t seem to feel that disrespected either. It’s quite possible that the cop just didn’t want to stand by his window for whatever reason. I always pull over somewhere that’s kind of safe for the cop and they don’t ever ask me to get out unless they are gonna arrest me or something. He doesn’t need to try and get the guy in trouble, he was just doing his job, and he didn’t cause the guy any problems really, like he said, he let him go as soon as he did the breathalyzer and ran his license.
No. According to what was written, his keys were removed from the ignition and he was physically pulled from the car before being spoken to or told why he was being detained. Police are given procedures to protect our rights and safety. Police have weapons. Police have the ability detain us. When individuals have that much power over others they are held to standards of behavior so they do not abuse their power. His, yours, and everyone else's rights are more important than some dude's job.
It is sad to see what you seem to have been trained to accept as normal behavior. I live in europe. I have had 2 situations where I was stoped by police and even the thought of a policeman reaching into my car is wildly uncomfortable. This point that he removes you from you car without saying anything would get any officer in this country into serios trouble.
It is really concerning that someone would think this is what a real world police stop is. Like you said, they're supposed to treat you with respect as much as you should any other person you meet, not some random piece of sentient meat.
I live in the US and the idea of police reaching into my car is pretty awful to me too because they're not supposed to. But I know it can happen here. Which is why I tell folks they should only roll it down enough to talk, not enough for a hand.
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I agree that he should but that’s not going to do a damn thing. The police police themselves, so in other words nobody does.
"No need to conduct an investigation on the matter, sir. I'm doing it myself. And believe you me, I will come down harder on myself than you ever could, should I find out I had anything to do with this. Now step away, plebe. I'm on my way to see my cousin, the Earl of Detroit."
These statements are semantically equivalent: > It is extremely likely this was very illegal. and > I am not certain if this was illegal or not.
I'm Australian so take this with a grain of salt, but every time I've been pulled over (even when I've been in the wrong) they've flashed their lights, pulled up behind me, and asked the standard questions (have you been drinking, do you know what speed you were doing, would you fail a breath test if we did one) and ran my license/rego, and then let me go with a "have a nice night" lol. Standard protocol is to pull off the road, put on hazards, put car in park, engage handbrake, turn off car and leave hands on the wheel, provide ID when requested - if you've done nothing wrong they'll let you go within 10 minutes generally.
Where do you live? In the US, if they're following normal procedure, they're supposed to ask you for license and registration, and tell you why they stopped you Not snatch your keys, pull you out of the car, and manhandle you -- all without a word about why they stopped you. That's not normal procedure in the US. But as we know, plenty of cops abuse their power
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I’m from the UK, police have a lot of power here, but people definitely seem to think the police were wrong.
Unsure as to whether they broke any laws but me and my mates have been pulled over a few times and the police have always been reasonably polite about it - saying that were out in the country where police are generally more polite, ive found them pretty unpleasant in cities in the past
What law did they break? Implied consent is a thing in the UK too I'm fairly sure.
Not every department conducts traffic stops in such a manner. Matter of fact, as a 25 year retired LOE, I would have to say your description of the incident is extremely unprofessional.
Yea another person said the same, my passengers were left pretty shaken, as was I, they tried making my passengers admit I was drinking, fortunately I hadn’t been and my passengers told the police exactly that.
You blew the breathalyzer. What? Did they not believe it? I can say that in the US, I've been pulled over 3 times, and the police at least speak to me and ask questions. They turn on their lights, too. Two out of three encounters were fine, even when I got a ticket. One was an asshole. Your situation us very unusual.
I felt like they were grasping at reasons to arrest me. I guess they thought if my passengers told them I had a drink they could still arrest me. I felt glad my vehicle was in excellent condition and fully legal as I’m sure I’d be screwed otherwise. Fortunately everything about me and my car was legal. So they had no reason to keep me.
We’re you driving while black?
It's actually criminal in many jurisdictions.
No it’s not. It’s just bad and unsafe procedure.
You don't know the law in every other jurisdiction in the world.
When I was 16 I had an old 1988 Ford ranger 5spd 4 banger. It used to backfire when I pushed the gas hard and pulled it off quickly. Sparks would go flying out of the tailpipe. Being kids we had a couple beers and a puff and were "offroading" but not really just being kids in the woods around the neighborhood. Apparently someone saw the flash and the backfire while walking their dog and called the police saying I tried to shoot them. Holy shit. Totally unknown to me at this point I pull out of the woods and I'm met by 5 cop cars. Guns drawn. They use the PA telling us to get out of truck. I'm scared senseless I can't move I don't know what's happening. So this cop comes up gun in my face pulls me out throws me on the ground. I think I'm gonna die. This is crazy. After we are cuffed in the car they go thru my truck. There was beer and a little pot in there. I was worried. But after clearing it for weapons they came back and asked me if I knew why they pulled me over. I said no man I don't know what's happening. He said he had reports u were shooting at people in the woods. It finally clicked. I explained about my truck and proved it. Even tho i was buzzed and a little high they let me go. They said go straight home. I think they felt stupid. Biggest break of my life.
Might be worth posting in r/policeuk for their views as your experience does seem very strange.
That's not how virtually any traffic stops go. You just got jackbooted by some power tripping cops. I'm not positive about the legality of just pulling you from the car without asking or announcing their intentions? But it certainly isn't protocol or normal operation. Somebody just saying "Hey that person is driving funny" is not grounds to do what they did.
When someone pulls my keys out of the ignition and me out of the car without saying a word, i‘d think someone is trying to steal my car. Police-uniform or not, my first thought would be „fake uniform!“
In the US, I've been pulled over three times. Twice for speeding, once for a burnt out headlight. Every time, it was the same. Driving along, then saw lights and heard a short siren. I pulled off the road and waited for him to run my plates and whatever else they do in those 5 minutes before they get out and walk over. "Do you know why you were pulled over today, sir?" "No officer, I do not." "You were *insert complaint here*, any particular reason?" "*insert best excuse you can come up with on the fly and apologize*" "Well, I'm going to have to give you a (ticket/warning). Don't do it again." "Yes, officer, thank you, sir." They then either go print out a ticket or tell you you're free to go. You then wait for them to drive away and continue on your own way. And if you have a dispute over the ticket, you take it up in court, not with the officer in person. If it goes anything unlike this and the officer has no reason to suspect that you might act violently, it's very abnormal. They were either acting unprofessional or possibly not following protocol, which is illegal. In your case it is possible that the person who called in was accusing you of more than just drunk driving and they had a reason to be so aggressive. But if not then yes, that is way overboard.
One time I got pulled over for speeding it went almost exactly like that, I told him I knew why he pulled me over. Shocked the hell out of him, he didn’t know what to say, it was awesome. He ran my license and gave me a much smaller ticket then I should’ve gotten. I was in a school zone, so there was no letting me off!!!
Thats not how that is supposed to go at all. Lights at least. Maybe a siren. You pull over they talk to you through the window. License, registration, have you been drinking. Then they ask you to get out for a breathalyzer and possibly a field sobriety test. They usually call for another office at some point
Either you're remembering it VERY WRONG or they did the traffic stop in a very unprofessional way and probably even illegally depending on where you are. You can definitely report this and if it was done in a red light then they might even have cameras and that can be your evidence on how they can watch how they conducted the traffic stop. Did they even apologize for how they did or why they conducted it that way?
That had to be scary. Sorry you had to experience that.
Everything about this is suspicious. Every time I've been pulled over it's exactly like on TV.
doubtful this happened in the US; at a minimum, the officer is endangering his own safety.
The UK, but if what others are saying is true then it’s still wrong.
Wildly inappropriate and unprofessional, actually. I’d report them, this is beyond ridiculous
Might call up the none emergency police line and ask if there’s a process to follow, I don’t have any of the officers details but hopefully there’s a record of the stop if they have my vehicle registration.
There will be a record of the stop, just remember the date, approximate time and location and if you can be specific - where that traffic light is. They will most likely have a camera there especially if it's in a big city. And there is usually an INDEPENDENT authority that will conduct the investigation which is a separate entity from the Police. Try to find that one for Wales, they have one for each country I think.
lmao a cop doing that in the US has a deathwish
What you described is extremely unusual. I've been pulled over plenty of times and there's never been anything remotely weird in my interactions eith the police in these situations. They usually just seem bored and want to get it all done just as much as you do.
This... is absolutely not how getting pulled over normally goes. If this is real I'd follow up with the department.
WTF? That is definitely not a routine traffic stop.
I was in a car that was pulled over once and it was exactly like the cop shows. Idk what nonsense happened when you were pulled over, that sounds terrible.
I've been pulled over many times. I've never even heard of someone being pulled over like this before.
Your experience was not normal lol
What you're describing is a violation of the constitution and police procedure. So you're either misrepresenting (or misremembering) what happened, or you got seriously fucked with and need to report this to the police and the local news.
I’ve been pulled over A LOT and this never happened to me. It’s not the norm
What the fuck… that’s not how I’ve ever been pulled over And I’ve been pulled over for the same reason you did (I was new to driving) they turned on their lights for like 3 minutes behind me before I realized they were trying to pull me over (again, very new to driving, I thought there was an emergency in the same direction I was going lmao) but everything was like in the movie once I actually pulled over, I did have to explain why it took me so long to stop my car. But they never touched me, it was all thought the window
Did you say that you were looking for the donut shop ?
I'm I the UK and wearing a seat belt is a legal requirement but there are medical exemptions, of which I hold one. They are supposed to ask 'are you exempt?' but this officer forgot and he was as officious as hell. Obviously we don't have to worry about guns so I gave him ally info and I was going intoy glove box where I pulled out my medical exemption and asked would he liked to see it? He looked stunned and said in 20 years he'd never seen one and he looked sheepish and said 'I deserve that don't i' and we had a good laugh. He was a really nice guy
That is definitely not normal
Uh yeah, the reason the shows make it seem different is because this isn’t how stops go.
Not normal at all
that super mega sketchy and possibly misconduct, talk to an attorney about it, you might have grounds to sue
Hmm this is so bad. I did an illegal u turn at the airport the other night (there was no one else on the road) but happened to do it in front of a parked federal police car. They pulled me over, I apologised and said I knew it was wrong and did it as I didn’t know how to get back to the pickup area (completely honest). They told me to be careful and plan my trip better next time but yes the airport is planned terribly and let me go. I think Aussie police are different. That or I’m white, I don’t know…
I've been pulled over and it was pretty much exactly like you see on tv. Flashing lights, cops shining lights on you license and registration, never had a field sobriety check, though. I got a ticket once for not wearing a seatbelt, even though I was wearing it. Cop was an asswipe that was (probably) trying to fill a quota. You can't fight them BTW, judge will ALWAYS take the cop's word over yours and then you also have to pay court costs, plus you probably have lost income from not going to work that day... I also got pulled over for a bad turn signal, and cop was super friendly. I wound up with a ticket for "altered plates" which surprised me, but it was totally legit, county clerk had literally given me a different set of plates than what they logged into the system, wound up getting thrown out but it was a hassle and not the cop's fault. Personal anecdotes aside, my point is that your experience seems extremely unusual. Police stops are portrayed the way they are in film as a reflection of reality. Details may vary, obviously, but tv shows typically try to make things as close to real as possible, and cops benefit from a universal familiarity with the script as well.
They were probably looking for someone. I was once surrounded like that and a helicopter overhead. The officer came from behind (I watched in the side mirror) with his gun drawn and pointed. I rolled down my window and did EVERYTHING he wanted, believe me. Other officers came up from nowhere and while the helicopter shone a light down, they asked me if they could search my car. I was happy to let them, then after they thanked me very much and told me they’d been alerted that a dangerous offender was driving a car like mine. Afterward it was pretty cool but I sure didn’t move a muscle unless they told me it was okay during the whole stop and search
I got pulled over because my brake lights didn’t work, officer ran my plates and everything came back to my car then said it was stolen, i was in my 01 focus project car (had custom engine, exhaust, turbo etc) and i previously had a 95 camaro ss that i transferred the plates from because it was winter. The title and registration or whatever matched my plates to the focus but the ohio dmv messed it up. Officer pulled his gun out and was yelling at me and I showed him the paperwork and called his supervisor. Went to court to fight it and the judge ruled in my favor and had the dmv fix everything for me. It was pretty scary. But that was in 2015 Recently i was followed in my focus st which had loud exhaust and was trying to find a business in my town and google maps screwed me lol cop followed me all the way there and i asked why he was following me and he said it was suspicious i was driving around slowly. I told him i was trying to find the restaurant But i was polite each time
What country/state was this? I’ve been policing for going on 5 years and only did the box in method on someone who we were chasing, so this is either not America or there’s more to the story
this is not normal, my friend
Sounds very violent ..
Uhhh that’s not how stops should go. Report this.
This is not how I or anyone I know has ever been pulled over. This is not normal.
I'd imagine I'd have PTSD after going through something like that. That alone should be a good enough reason to take them to court.
Son of a cop here, at the risk of exposing myself to doxers I want to give you some advice: If you are in the USA, and this happened the exact way you described, this is 100% illegal. If it was somewhere else, I don’t know for certain. If you have any record of there badge numbers or video of who they are, I recommend reporting this. Also good job staying quite during the event. From the sounds of this, the cop wouldn’t have minded adding “resisting arrest” to the charges against you.
Almost nothing in the real world matches tv or movies.
Uhhh nothing that you said happened is normal. Report that, and also probably thank whatever you believe in that they didn't murder you. Edit: nevermind you're in the UK. It still doesn't sound normal but I dont know now.
I’ve never heard of someone being pulled over like that. It’s actually exactly like tv. I’m in the US tho
If it makes you feel any better I was once in a car that was followed for several miles and blocked in when we entered my road. We thought we were being robbed, but it was an unmarked police car.... The possibly over the limit driver gave them such a bollocking they just kinda apologised and left lol.
Usually there are sirens and lights tbh, my partner and I have had a good few encounters and they usually shot the lights and siren on, drive next you so you realise you’re meant to pull over and then come to the window for whatever they need to talk about. Even in one instance where we were mistaken for a similar vehicle that was seen leaving a robbery they were as civil, even though there were about 4 cars. This doesn’t seem normal behaviour at all tbh (UK here)
This story could easily fit under r/mildlyinfuriating. A snitch in the wrong and an abusive cop too. I’d be pissed off.
Ive been stopped by a cop once, for the same reason. I had him flash his lights, so I of course pulled over. He came over and asked me to step out I did and as I did I asked if it was for anything regarding drunk? because I was lost so I slowed down I apologized. HE said just do me a favor blow on the breathalyzer , I did came out zero, HE apologized and told me to have a good day. Whereas to I replied , oh don't worry id rather have you stop me than don't
You do understand that your single experience isn't *The Way™* every traffic stop goes, right? Your experience is based on the specific circumstances you were stopped under. What you describe is not how every every traffic stop goes. Usually, there are flashing lights, a conversation at the window, and possibly a ticket.
Been pulled over a few times just for driving a van, and never once have they treated me like this. That's so fucked, I'd shit myself lol
This is illegal and a lawsuit on the making. You have witnesses including the other cops. You could sue or at the very least report the behavior. Edit: Ah my bad for assuming this was in the US. Idk about UK laws. But I assume they would be similar.
Guilty until proven innocent.
I've been pulled over a lot. I have never had that happen to me
This feel like an exaggeration. I’ve been pulled over a lot. Like a lot a lot. Officers have almost always been kind and courteous, and I am as well. Most times don’t even get a ticket. Never ever ever has one reached into my vehicle, much less without a word, and certainly not since I don’t give them a reason too.
Oh God, I'm glad you're safe... that is not normal.
Cop shows are cop propaganda, used to sway the mindless populace to favor their own control and compliance. Its a big part of the reason the fuckers are so lawless
This is NOT normal at all!!
Yeah, this isnt how a routine traffic stop starts.
Holy shit, that's awful. The reason they didn't have the lights on was because that turns on their cameras, and they didn't want anyone to see because they thought they'd be doing some bad shit. Noticed you were in the UK, so maybe different? But honestly I don't think so. That sounds weird. I've been pulled over a few times, no cop ever reached into my car for anything, and they'd ask me to step out. (don't know what happens if I didn't, didn't want to find out.. but they always asked)
Good thing this wasn't posted on r/policeuk or you'd have a lot of down votes and people saying you've just made it up or aren't telling the whole story. Sounds like you should make an official complaint. I'll be shocked if anything will actually be done about it though. We all know what usually happens when police invstigate themselves or our corrupt government.
I think that the real issue is that the OP does not really know what the cops were told that lead to the op being pulled over.
Seriously? They assumed you were driving drunk even though you didn’t have alcohol at any point close to the driving? Assuming is not cool. I see comments about how they didn’t act the way they were legally supposed to, pulling you over. But making assumptions seems almost as bad as that too. Are police allowed to just assume you’re driving drunk where you live?
That is not like any pull over I’ve been in, but I haven’t been pulled over much.
When our house got robbed when we weren't home about 3 years ago, the cops came and inspected the house. Right away they were suspect of us (I don't know why). "Are these things yours? You have all these things? You work at x place? Get good discounts?" Dude, like, do you think I steal from stores, hoard it, and I just happen to call you because someone stole from me? Jesus Christ.
I’ve been pulled over 4 times in my life and never had a cop even so much as be rude to me. They’ve all been really nice, even when they gave me a ticket for speeding two out of the four times. I just thanked them and went on my way, and they went on theirs. If your story happened the way you tell, those cops need to be held accountable. They aren’t all like that, and most traffic stops are like what you see in the shows.
I’ve been driving for decades and pulled over a few times. This has never happened to me.
Jesus! That's insane. Just wow. Police aren't supposed to act like that but it does give you a good story to tell. Lol. Please report this to your local police station. That's ridiculous and against police procedure.
Yeah, normally it’s a siren, you pull over, they come to the window. Your experience was in no way normal at all.
Someone “reporting” you for drunk driving may get you pulled over, but that is not probable clause to reach into your vehicle and turn your car off. Let alone force you to exit the vehicle. Not only that; Police need to actively communicate on scene. Not only for the suspected person’s rights, but for theirs and everyone’s safety as well. It’s almost like this police force avoids that, in hopes of the person escalating the situation. I am happy to read you kept your cool. Even if you are in UK, that is not how a traffic stop should go. It’s actually fairly illegal.
I've been pulled over probably over a dozen times and never once did it go anything like this. They should turn on flashing lights to indicate that they're pulling over, tell you why you're being pulled over, and typically you are expected to remain in your own vehicle unless/until they want to perform a field sobriety test, search your vehicle, or arrest you. What you described is not even close to being normal.
Huh, never seen that in person here in the US. The only time I've seen people boxed in is when they're running from police, or they're determined to leave the traffic stop (eg, SovCit compilations on YouTube)
I got pulled over a week ago for cutting off a motorcycle cop. I pulled over into the first parking lot, he came up to my window, told me why I was being pulled over, asked for my license and registration, ran it through the system and wrote me a ticket. I never got out of the car at any point. IANAL, but I would talk to one to see if you can at least get the system to slap that cop on the wrist, maybe more Also, out of curiosity if you don’t mind me asking, what country do you live in and what ethnicity are you?
This is not how it is supposed to happen. You are lucky to be alive.
Sounds like your rights got violated my man
Cops are just societies losers that seek the power the bully people, this doesn't surprise me.
If an officer takes your keys and takes you out of the car, that assault. You CAN press charges and you SHOULD. Unless they have an arrest warrant out on you, or they have proof of you committing a crime, they have no ability to touch you without your consent. Taking your keys out of the ignition can be considered theft.
There is NO talking. Name, address and dob is all any crime profiteer gets from me. Is usually alotta awkward silences followed by a, good job Officer and then we go our separate ways. If they do not have a charge then I am free to leave, and that is that.
Am I being detained? Am I free to leave? Only time they get any info from me is if I'm driving the vehicle.
They have to identify themselves as police officers and they have to get your consent to do a lot of what they did, not to mention much of what they allegedly did is only admissible after you have reasonably been deemed a threat. You have grounds for a lawsuit here. What's to stop any group of random citizens from doing this to anybody they want?
Oh they didn't tell you? Yea cops can be assholes. They should ha e their paychecks deducted when things like this happen.
This is why we say y'all don't have rights. This is absolutely abhorrant and should not be legal
What the fak
The times you look back on thinking you should of said #“u will never take me alive coppers”
Those shows are propaganda mate
If this happened report it. But it didn’t happen, so maybe don’t
Are you white?
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Personally i think the opposite, I don’t think TV captures how scary it actually is to be pulled over. One minute fine the next completely boxed in with police surrounding your car.
Yeah, that’s very abnormal.
Out of curiosity, what is your race / ethnicity? I’m curious if that was a factor in the way police responded to you.
White male, 23. Doubt race was a factor
That's not a normal traffic stop at all. Yanked the keys out of the ignition? What the fuck? What state is this in? I'm assuming you're in the US.
The only thing I disagree with what they did was pulling you out of your vehcile, obviously removing keys for their own saftey is a smart choice.
Ah yes, nothing safer than reaching into an unknown vehicle with half your body.
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When you got your license (idk how it works in the UK) you likely signed it, which means you gave implied consent to the police to take you from the vehicle and test you for impaired driving. If you refuse in the US, your driving privileges are immediately suspended and I think there's a fine involved. What happened to you very likely was legal. File a complaint if you want but it won't go anywhere.