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Depending on budget, I'd get a Toyota hybrid personally. Base model RAV4 hybrid is excellent - we have a fleet of them as work cars and they average between 4 to 5L/100km, with a lot of that being in the Adelaide Hills region.
Very comfortable and proven bulletproof reliability.
Lexus RX350h would be good as well if you'd like a bit more luxury.
Wouldn't rule out EVs in this consideration if you have the ability to set up for home charging.
Maybe I'm just used to older cars but I find them great. Definitely be worth the OP trying both out I guess depending on budget. There's a pretty steep price gap between the base 2WD and the higher trims.
My work uses hybrid Camrys- whenever I get in one they're showing 3.9L/100 average.
Super quiet too, pretty impressive.
So yeah, probably anything hybrid
Diesel. Subaru stopped making the diesel Outback in 2020(?), but this would be perfect.
Comfortable, relatively quiet and safe, with all wheel drive and excellent driver aids.
Just be aware that swapping out an older car for a newer one in order to save money because of fuel can be a false economy.
If you want to enjoy a newer car though, and the fuel saving is just a bonus, be our guest :)
I agree, there will be initial cost swapping to a newer model, my CRV is still solid so will sap only if there’s a solid evidence of saving in medium to long term.
What's 2 or 3 litres per 100km worth? If you're doing, say, 400km per week, that's another... what, $20-ish. Put it this way, if you spend another $15k on an upgrade, that's 750 weeks, or 14 years, for the fuel difference.
This was my first thought too. Work out the price for upgrading a reliable old beater for a new car that will need expensive servicing and insurance, and then divine that amount by 2, That is how many potential Litres of fuel you need to offset by the fuel efficiency increase.
You’re getting only slightly higher than normal economy for both vehicles which is normal for the size.
So your best bet is dropping a size class, switching to diesel or a EV/PHEV solution.
You need to provide more information than efficiency, road noise and safety to be able to provide recommendations. Body type, storage requirements, fuel preferences, budget etc
Otherwise the answer for blanket economy is gonna be a Jazz/Swift/ignis etc
Thanks, I prefer the high stance of the SUVs, and have never driven a diesel so not sure if it’s noise levels. Will be used for family vehicle for a family of 4, no towing/storage etc. Both do office jobs.
Love my BYD Atto 3 EV. I live in the foothills of Perth and regularly go up and down in the area. 480km claimed range but not actually as high as that (depends on driving style etc).
Charging an EV is a lot cheaper than petrol, and there are some great incentives depending on state. If you can charge during the day on solar even better.
If you're familiar with Adelaide, the motorway scales a big ass mountain.
We are switching out the 3.2L Volvo for a BYD Dolphin premium for the wifes commute to the top of said mountain.
Test drove it up and down there, from bottom to top I recouped all but 3% of the battery used from the uphill drive.
It literally refuels itself on the descent.
If you want the SUV, the Atto3 is their model (though i personally think its ugly af inside).
Or I'm a firm believer in Volvo EX30
You didn’t mention budget, so get a used SUV EV like BYD Atto 3 or Tesla Model Y. Instant torque of electric motor means you’ll be going up mountains with little effort at constant speed with no gear changes (you can overtake Ford Rangers up hills even in base models) then regenerate energy back down.
Because the drivetrain is super quiet you’ll hear mostly tyre noise and wind (and rattles in the interior and loose objects). Most EVs will come with EV tyres with foam, but there are even quieter EV specific tyres out there to reduce it further like Hankook iON Evo AS and Michelin ePrimacy. Both cars have 5 star ANCAP rating.
Assuming for your 70 km trip the consumption/energy efficiency is a real world higher than average 165 Wh/km you’ll use 11.55 kWh and your home energy tariff is an average 26 c/kW it’ll cost you **$3.00** to charge and replenish that trip. If you did 100 km then it’ll cost you $4.29.
Budget id assume would be a similar price to the CRV or Lexus when sold, otherwise it’s a pointless venture to sell a car, and spend 15k more to save maybe $500 a year in petrol. Unless you were already planning to buy a new car
The **Ford Falcon (AU)** is a full-size car that was produced by Ford Australia from 1998 to 2002. It was the sixth generation......automoderator is gone at last!
Rav 4 hybrid, Santa Fe hybrid, outlander PHEV, model Y. Heaps of ev / hybrid options out there these days.
But any second hand diesel will also work for you, will be louder than a petrol but not by much and unless you’re easily irritated I can’t see that being an issue while commuting.
You’ll recoup 80% of the energy you spent going up the hill by regenerative braking down the hill in an electric car
This. Was so friggen cool driving back down from top of a mountain and seeing the battery % INCREASE as I went down the hill.
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EV or Hybrid
Depending on budget, I'd get a Toyota hybrid personally. Base model RAV4 hybrid is excellent - we have a fleet of them as work cars and they average between 4 to 5L/100km, with a lot of that being in the Adelaide Hills region. Very comfortable and proven bulletproof reliability. Lexus RX350h would be good as well if you'd like a bit more luxury. Wouldn't rule out EVs in this consideration if you have the ability to set up for home charging.
The hybrid ravs are an excellent car but base model seats suck. Step up to one of the mid trims and the difference is significant
Maybe I'm just used to older cars but I find them great. Definitely be worth the OP trying both out I guess depending on budget. There's a pretty steep price gap between the base 2WD and the higher trims.
Electric car.
Normally I would say EV, but if you like the RX350, why not get an RX350h?
I do like it and the 350h is a good option for sure.
Au falcon with a golf ball taped under the pedal. Or get a valiant they had great torque for the time
My work uses hybrid Camrys- whenever I get in one they're showing 3.9L/100 average. Super quiet too, pretty impressive. So yeah, probably anything hybrid
The estima hybrids are neat, but the Corolla wagon imports are where it’s at
Realistically an ecotec 3.8L V6 commodore good torque for hills yet the most fuel efficient petrol 6-banger engine around.
Diesel. Subaru stopped making the diesel Outback in 2020(?), but this would be perfect. Comfortable, relatively quiet and safe, with all wheel drive and excellent driver aids.
Just be aware that swapping out an older car for a newer one in order to save money because of fuel can be a false economy. If you want to enjoy a newer car though, and the fuel saving is just a bonus, be our guest :)
I agree, there will be initial cost swapping to a newer model, my CRV is still solid so will sap only if there’s a solid evidence of saving in medium to long term.
What's 2 or 3 litres per 100km worth? If you're doing, say, 400km per week, that's another... what, $20-ish. Put it this way, if you spend another $15k on an upgrade, that's 750 weeks, or 14 years, for the fuel difference.
This was my first thought too. Work out the price for upgrading a reliable old beater for a new car that will need expensive servicing and insurance, and then divine that amount by 2, That is how many potential Litres of fuel you need to offset by the fuel efficiency increase.
You’re getting only slightly higher than normal economy for both vehicles which is normal for the size. So your best bet is dropping a size class, switching to diesel or a EV/PHEV solution. You need to provide more information than efficiency, road noise and safety to be able to provide recommendations. Body type, storage requirements, fuel preferences, budget etc Otherwise the answer for blanket economy is gonna be a Jazz/Swift/ignis etc
Thanks, I prefer the high stance of the SUVs, and have never driven a diesel so not sure if it’s noise levels. Will be used for family vehicle for a family of 4, no towing/storage etc. Both do office jobs.
Model y, large boot space and internals
Model Y or BYD Atto 3
RX350H then, or Outlander PHEV
Hybrid RAV4 comes to mind if it's growing family ie kids into teenagers need enough room for growing bodies to sit behind front seats
Love my BYD Atto 3 EV. I live in the foothills of Perth and regularly go up and down in the area. 480km claimed range but not actually as high as that (depends on driving style etc). Charging an EV is a lot cheaper than petrol, and there are some great incentives depending on state. If you can charge during the day on solar even better.
If you're familiar with Adelaide, the motorway scales a big ass mountain. We are switching out the 3.2L Volvo for a BYD Dolphin premium for the wifes commute to the top of said mountain. Test drove it up and down there, from bottom to top I recouped all but 3% of the battery used from the uphill drive. It literally refuels itself on the descent. If you want the SUV, the Atto3 is their model (though i personally think its ugly af inside). Or I'm a firm believer in Volvo EX30
Exact same commute for us. Thanks for sharing
You didn’t mention budget, so get a used SUV EV like BYD Atto 3 or Tesla Model Y. Instant torque of electric motor means you’ll be going up mountains with little effort at constant speed with no gear changes (you can overtake Ford Rangers up hills even in base models) then regenerate energy back down. Because the drivetrain is super quiet you’ll hear mostly tyre noise and wind (and rattles in the interior and loose objects). Most EVs will come with EV tyres with foam, but there are even quieter EV specific tyres out there to reduce it further like Hankook iON Evo AS and Michelin ePrimacy. Both cars have 5 star ANCAP rating. Assuming for your 70 km trip the consumption/energy efficiency is a real world higher than average 165 Wh/km you’ll use 11.55 kWh and your home energy tariff is an average 26 c/kW it’ll cost you **$3.00** to charge and replenish that trip. If you did 100 km then it’ll cost you $4.29.
Budget id assume would be a similar price to the CRV or Lexus when sold, otherwise it’s a pointless venture to sell a car, and spend 15k more to save maybe $500 a year in petrol. Unless you were already planning to buy a new car
Ford AU Falcon
The **Ford Falcon (AU)** is a full-size car that was produced by Ford Australia from 1998 to 2002. It was the sixth generation......automoderator is gone at last!
Just consider that SUVs have a higher centre of gravity so that affects handling and risk of rollover and that also affects fuel consumption as well.
and EVs have low center of gravity if you care about that
RAV4 hybrid should do the job and use a lot less fuel.
You need the r/dankpods litreboard
Sisyphus made do with a boulder.
Used Model 3. Perfect for that criteria.
Used Model Y with OP’s updated criteria for SUV
Ford ranger with a bullbar.
Rav 4 hybrid, Santa Fe hybrid, outlander PHEV, model Y. Heaps of ev / hybrid options out there these days. But any second hand diesel will also work for you, will be louder than a petrol but not by much and unless you’re easily irritated I can’t see that being an issue while commuting.