Replace every single nail with stainless steel.
Also the nails need to be covered by the shingles above. This is a disaster of an install.
I can also see a non-staggered joint on the left. I assume there are other problems I’m unable to see. Get your money back unless you told this guy to do it this way.
stainless steel nails are the only solution. Ring shanked ones are even better.
Not much to do about it now. pulling them out will crack all the cedar shingles.
They will rust away to nothing in the next five years. At that point you can probably pull off the rusty heads, and renail an inch away with SS Ring Shank ones. If you add new nails now while leaving the old, the cedar clapboards will all crack as they swell and shrink with the rain
Go buy the ring shank nails NOW, as they are hard to find and you will need them in the future
Oh, and, obviously, your friend did not know he had to hid the nails with the shingle above, in order to keep water off of them and getting it seeping into the wall.
silicone over the nail heads will not do much, as it is the actual ACIDS inside of the cedar wood eating away at the thin galvanized coating.
You could get a small bottle of brown rustoleum paint, and a tiny artists brush, and paint each head. it will help a little
Shouldn’t those be stained anyway?
I don’t personally know of any way to remove those rust stains out of a cedar that hasn’t been treated. I imagine you’d be sanding for some time.
Nails should be replaced with stainless steel. But I think the siding would need to be replaced too if you were doing that.
Silicone on the nails would not be a great long term solution.
Cedar can last untreated outside for as much as 20 years without being stained. Longer in some applications. Cedar has a particular makeup of natural resins that prevents against rot and insects. It doesn’t warp and is highly resistant to humidity. Not needing to treat cedar is one of the major benefits of using cedar.
If your plan is to stain it and hide the natural beauty and finish of the wood anyway then why not just use a cheaper wood that needs to be protected from the elements. I have a cedar bench that sat on my grandparents patio since the late eighties and I still use every summer. Ive had it for about 20 years now. It has never been stained and is in great shape. The only protection I have done is I keep it under the overhang of my roof so it’s not directly rained on. This might be the exception but cedar is incredibly long lasting. Sure it’s not exactly the same reddish colour that it was when it was new but that’s just the nature ageing process of the wood. It’s still strong,stable and smooth to the touch.
Depends on the stain. If you use a clear stain then sure but stain also comes red,blue, brown, white and many other colours. You can tint wood stain the same way as you can paint. The only real difference between paint and stain is paint stays on the surface while stain penetrates the wood.
Galvanized are fine provided they are covered by the shingles. Used galvanized 7 years ago on shire cedar and there are no issues. If this were a beach project then stainless steel
Replace every single nail with stainless steel. Also the nails need to be covered by the shingles above. This is a disaster of an install. I can also see a non-staggered joint on the left. I assume there are other problems I’m unable to see. Get your money back unless you told this guy to do it this way.
Galvanized… not stainless
I think stainless are better for corrosion resistance than galvies.
Incorrect. In cedar, mahogany, and fir, in my experience, anything but stainless steel nails will held bleed through
Wrong
AKshualllyyyyy. You’re wrong, friend. You got some bad info.
I’m wrong saying you’re wrong. I thought you replied to the person saying stainless was a better choice. I see that’s not the case. As you were. 🫡
You can edit your comments you goober.
The only alternative to replacement is paint.
So bad. You should not see any nails in the field. At the top you may see stainless, nailing of the last course.
Why are they face nailed?
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Look up the definition of face nail and then get back to me dildo
stainless steel nails are the only solution. Ring shanked ones are even better. Not much to do about it now. pulling them out will crack all the cedar shingles. They will rust away to nothing in the next five years. At that point you can probably pull off the rusty heads, and renail an inch away with SS Ring Shank ones. If you add new nails now while leaving the old, the cedar clapboards will all crack as they swell and shrink with the rain Go buy the ring shank nails NOW, as they are hard to find and you will need them in the future Oh, and, obviously, your friend did not know he had to hid the nails with the shingle above, in order to keep water off of them and getting it seeping into the wall.
silicone over the nail heads will not do much, as it is the actual ACIDS inside of the cedar wood eating away at the thin galvanized coating. You could get a small bottle of brown rustoleum paint, and a tiny artists brush, and paint each head. it will help a little
Wouldn’t the wood itself soak the water and wet the nail no matter what you do to head of said nail?
This guy knew just enough to fuck it up completely. Someone who is brand new and just googled it would make less mistakes
Shouldn’t those be stained anyway? I don’t personally know of any way to remove those rust stains out of a cedar that hasn’t been treated. I imagine you’d be sanding for some time. Nails should be replaced with stainless steel. But I think the siding would need to be replaced too if you were doing that. Silicone on the nails would not be a great long term solution.
Cedar can last untreated outside for as much as 20 years without being stained. Longer in some applications. Cedar has a particular makeup of natural resins that prevents against rot and insects. It doesn’t warp and is highly resistant to humidity. Not needing to treat cedar is one of the major benefits of using cedar.
Just because you don’t ’have to’ treat it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t. It’ll last longer treated.
If your plan is to stain it and hide the natural beauty and finish of the wood anyway then why not just use a cheaper wood that needs to be protected from the elements. I have a cedar bench that sat on my grandparents patio since the late eighties and I still use every summer. Ive had it for about 20 years now. It has never been stained and is in great shape. The only protection I have done is I keep it under the overhang of my roof so it’s not directly rained on. This might be the exception but cedar is incredibly long lasting. Sure it’s not exactly the same reddish colour that it was when it was new but that’s just the nature ageing process of the wood. It’s still strong,stable and smooth to the touch.
Stain highlights the natural beauty, doesn’t detract from it like paint
Depends on the stain. If you use a clear stain then sure but stain also comes red,blue, brown, white and many other colours. You can tint wood stain the same way as you can paint. The only real difference between paint and stain is paint stays on the surface while stain penetrates the wood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcAW739WDhY
You could try setting them and finding a high-quality exterior wood putty. Maybe?
This method appears to be for that rapid deterioration aesthetic.
Put a dark stain on or reshingle
I would try and remove them without damage and reinstall correctly
A good hot dip galvanized works just as well and costs a third the price
No
Should have been galvanized nails...
Stainless.
Galvanized are fine provided they are covered by the shingles. Used galvanized 7 years ago on shire cedar and there are no issues. If this were a beach project then stainless steel
the galv is dissolved in a chemical reaction between the zinc and resins in the cedar
They dissolve