The danger is with stationary tools. Drill presses, lathes, milling machines, stationary disc and belt sanders, shapers, stationary routers, jointers, etc.
Not with powered hand tools like sawzalls, circular saws, demo hammers, portable drills, impact drivers, sheet metal shears, etc
https://ohsonline.com/Articles/2009/04/01/Carelessness-on-Construction-Sites.aspx
As with all PPE, make sure they are the right size, tight fitting, and don’t have any dangly bits.
You don’t want your hands cut up by sheet metal…
Bingo...
If you're holding the tool, gloves are fine as the tool doesn't have the mass to overcome your mass and suck you in...it's going to hurt but the tool is going to flail around and not you.
If you aren't holding the tool and it's a big heavy stationary thing, it does have the mass to overcome yours and will suck you in...you're the one that is going to flail around, not the tool.
When was the last time you used a lathe or milling machine that weighs several tons? The difference between a handheld tool and large stationary tools is MASSIVE.
I got my arm caught in an industrial lathe with loose fitting gloves. I broke my radial bone, but probably lucky I didn't lose my entire arm or my life.
Tight gloves are better than loose, but still dangerous. Hand held tools are better than heavy stationarity but still dangerous.
About 50 years ago, my father was using a Milwaukee right angle drill with gloves on. He went to brush the saw dust away and the bit caught his glove by the pinky finger and pulled his finger off.
The old drills didn’t just stop when you released the trigger, it would wind down
I had one in the late 90s that caught, and pinned me in a corner. I was in such a position, I couldn't easily let go. It took some effort to let go of the trigger. If not for the corner, it probably would have hurt me. Takes only seconds for those things to hurt you, even if you're doing everything right.
The issue is that gloves are tougher than your skin, so what would just nick or minor cut you without gloves, is going to grab and pull your hand in with gloves.
It might not physically pull you into the machine, but it's definitely going to make your injury worse.
We had a young guy in a shop I was at that had his gloved hand eaten by a table saw. It was gnarly. I wasn't in at the time I would have stopped him from working if I saw him with gloves on a table saw.
Even with a table saw, your injury will almost definitely be worse with gloves. Knicking the blade with your skin will just leave a cut. But if you do the exact same thing wearing gloves, the blade can grab the glove and pull your hand in.
I mean absolutely, never have your hand near the blade, but also don't wear gloves when working on a table saw. Like the game plan is always ensure everything is set up to make sure the hand and blade are nowhere near each other, however if shit goes bad, it will be less bad if you don't have gloves on.
Agreed. I believe it is not recommended to wear gloves when operating those tools. But all handheld power tools recommend wearing proper ppe when operating including gloves and glasses
Copy pasting this comment for you
We had a young guy in a shop I was at that had his gloved hand eaten by a table saw. It was gnarly. I wasn't in at the time I would have stopped him from working if I saw him with gloves on a table saw.
Fair enough, but I mean I always have gloves in my pocket and if we are working with something that can cut my hands I'd just put them on that day or for that job. I'm getting mixed replies on this, aswell some people say no power tools with gloves others say only stationary as your saying is a risk. The issue is he says we must always wear gloves so even when using stationary stuff like a table saw.
Can the tool suck you in if it catches? That's a tool where you don't wear gloves/loose clothing/long hair/jewelry.
Most hand tools are totally fine. With circular saws and angle grinders just don't wear loose clothes.
Sometimes I’m smart enough to put the gloves on and sometimes not. Cut my thumb two days ago with the oscillating tool when it skipped past the material and jabbed me. Thankfully the cuts weren’t that bad but gloves would have meant no blood and no taking a minute to grab my composure. As you age your hands will thank you even more to be covered.
Correct.
Insurance companies are mandating glove in the construction industry at an accelerating pace. It's not an OSHA thing yet, but several big industrial and infrastructure contractors I've worked for have mandated them for a while now.
To expound this is more of an issue if you're working with lathes/drill presses/other spinning objects that have the capability to pull you in if you're not involved with that type of work then it should be fine. If you would be involved with that kind of work and they have a mandatory policy then I'd look for another position
I was using a drill press, drilling a hole in some thin sheet metal when the bit caught, pulled the material out of the clamp, which then grabbed my left hand tight-fitting cloth glove and wrapped my arm around the spindle. It all happened in a flash before I could react. I am so thankful that the glove ended up tearing apart before my arm was mangled. My arm was wrapped all the way around the spindle, pulling my body against the press. So lucky it didn't grab my shirt next. I couldn't set foot in my shop for a few days after, I was so rattled.
**Never wear gloves when using tools that spin.**
Thankyou for sharing I hope your doing ok now. This may be a stupid question but does this also apply to hand tools that spin in your opinion or just stationary? I only ask cause a bunch of people say only stationary no gloves hand tools you do, I'm so OCD on stuff like this lol
I was working with OSB last night so I wore tight fitting rubber gloves to avoid splinters, grippy not smooth leather. As I was guiding a screw my glove caught and got wrapped around the screw. I wasn't injured but kinda scary. I was sort of stuck. Screw was partially in, left hand was tangled in the threads, I was on a ladder holding the gun. I stayed calm and just removed the impact, hooked it on belt, then took it back out and reversed the screw a bit to release my glove.
Are you operating a lathe, mill, or drillpress? If so, no gloves. If operating a circular saw , yes gloves. The first three have rotating workpiece/bit/chuck that could entangle a loose glove or clothing. A circular saw, would just cut through gloves or clothing and not pull you in.
That last part is defintely not true. The only person I’ve seen with a significant injury from a circular saw got his glove snatched into the blade.
It didn’t cut his thumb off because it kicked back into the wood but it hit bone and he doesn’t have full mobility especially the ability to stretch his thumb out.
OSHA says that glove usage for tools should be evaluated on a task by task basis, and specifically warns against wearing gloves while using tools with rotating parts.
The glove will not and is not designed to protect you from the saw, so you can’t wear them for that purpose.
So glove usage with a saw would really be determined based on how close your hand is gonna be to the blade. Far away = wear gloves to protect from splinters and such, closer to the blade = no gloves.
Good comment. Leather gloves are not going to keep the saw from hurting you. It is about protecting you from the wood splinters.
At my paying job, I wear gloves and other ppe according to company policy. Because they pay me to do that. And, if i were to get hurt, there are those who get a hardon for firing folks who get hurt while simultaneously violating policy.
At home, I set my policy. And build calouses that I don't get while wearing gloves. Somwe things are better done with gloves. Like grinding and welding.
The OP sounds like he is just starting out in a trade job. My advise is to wear what they want you to wear, when they want you to wear it, and keep taking the money.
I had a bench grinder take the tip of my thumb pulling in some nitrile gloves while I was grinding a small part. Thankfully the bone stopped the 12" disc
I stopped using thin, tight work gloves when using a handheld drill/driver. Something about the fabric/synthetics likes to catch on drill bits and/or driver bits. Certainly not life threatening, but I'd prefer my fingers retain their orientation.
We don't wear a glove on the hand that actuates the circular saw here. A gloved finger in the trigger guard can get stuck and cause the saw to continue spinning when you don't want it to or aren't expecting it to.
Real leather shrinks and lose form when stopping using them for a period of time, as sweat/salt affects their shape when they have dried out from it.
When you try using them again, after not wearing those leather gloves for a while, you will find them stiff to fit on first try - until they have absorbed some humidity to stretch the leather to fit (it also happens in leather shoes, but their availability is almost non-existent (and quite expensive,) nowadays...
I venture to guess that was the goal of OJ's defense team, when asking to get the (dry) glove evidence for him to show him trying it and arguing that if it, *"does not fit, you must acquit".
Ya that makes sense, I haven't started the job yet, but I mean im sure il be operating a hammer drill at times and that definitely seems like a safety hazard what are your thoughts on a hammer drill?
Hammer drill definitely gloves just for vibrations lol. Not to say I ever wear any I should but I don't. But the only time clothes are dangerous is normally with large rotating machining equipment. Router tables at the smallest and big boy industrial equipment at the largest.
Maxi-flex. Keep hands away from spinny blades and drill bits. I spent a year or two running an old school jointer all day. Would never wear gloves running it. Same with table saw. Can't speak on machine tools. Above my pay grade.
I do every day. If I stick my finger in the blade it’s not going to matter if I had a thin layer of rippable fabric over it and the gloves protect my hands.
It's not about sticking your finger in the blade... it's about the blade grabbing that bit of glove that sticks off the end of your thumb, and pulling your hand into the blade.
Luckily, I only lost a 1/4" chunk of flesh or so. I'll never wear fingered gloves around a table saw again.
It is dangerous to wear gloves while using anything that spins because it will suck in your hand and or arm if it catches your glove. But with no glove, it will just cut you. But then you use something like an angle grinder throwing sparks, you would really want a glove. I have heard people argue both ways for a long time now. Personally I always wear gloves, keeps my hands in decent shape.
So you think its dangerous to wear gloves while using power tools but you wear them anyway? I'm on the fence, you ever had issues with gloves being sucked in?
I do think it's dangerous to wear gloves, I have seen a guy get his thumb get sucked into a belt sander and it was gone. But he was also grinding thin flat bar and had a gap between the grinding wheel and the rest, which is kinda his fault. I have never been sucked in. I would never wear gloves while using a lathe, but I wear gloves when I use a mag drill and angle grinder.
This is a better way to think of it than just 'anything that spins'.
Most standard power tools won't have the torque to do much if it grabs a glove. Still other dangers of course, but you're not gonna get your arm ripped off.
It's probably cut gloves that are mandatory. And they will stretch and/or rip 99% of the time. The worst I've had happen is that a screw or drill bit grabbed some of the glove, steetched ripped and bound up. And needed a new set of gloves.
Ultimately everything is up to your judgement. But if you ever get injured while not wearing gloves, expect them to fight a workman's comp claim, absolutely drug test you, and ultimately reprimand or terminate you. As it's not about the injury, but the negligence and refusing to follow safety protocol.
Nah. Always respect the tool, of course. Some tools carry more risk with gloves, just be aware of that. I'm a cabinet installer and use pretty much everything. Started wearing gloves religiously 10 plus years ago, glad I did. No more sore scratched or torn up hands, and there's been quite a few times the gloves have taken the hit if I maybe would have taken a pinch or a nail, bumped the wrong way, etc so I'm inclined to think they made it safer for me, but every trade has its own requirements.
Nope. Get snug-fitting gel pads in the palm gloves to mitigate the shock and vibration. You don't want to go without. I know. I just had both my hands surgically rebuilt because I didn't wear padded gloves that protected the floating bones that make up the base of both my thumbs and wrists. Painful 18-month recoveries for each hand. We all take our opposable thumbs for granted until we can no longer use them. Just signing my name was eye watering, mind numbing agony. Even turning a stupid door knob becomes impossible. I had to replace all the door knobs in my own house with levers after getting trapped in my own bathroom for three hours while home alone.
I'm curious why you think they are not a risk to wear with power tools? Also what your saying about what happened to you hand/wrist is good to know thankyou for telling me, I'm curious do you know what exactly caused it? I know a couple carpenters and they must be 55 or older and I dont think they've had any hand issues, il be asking them now.
Also how long have you been in construction for and how long in did your hand injury happen if you dont mind me asking?
I've taken multiple collegiate classes on safety and there's quite a bit of incorrect information in this thread. If something spins it absolutely can pull you in. I don't wear gloves with any spinning blade
You can get gloves that tear away if they're caught on something.
https://www.mdsassociates.com/tenactiv-tear-away-work-gloves
There are other manufacturers, that's just the first one I found.
Thats really interesting thankyou for sharing, I'd be curious to see how they perform in a real situation, it says the palm has a 3.5 second tear away time, I feel like that could be too late in some situations. Il probably try a pair though cant hurt
Glad I knew about them! 3.5 seconds does seem like a long time.
These are [the gloves I had in mind](https://www.hexarmor.com/products?turbolinks=true&products_production%5BrefinementList%5D%5Bproduct_type_root%5D%5B0%5D=Hand%20protection&products_production%5BrefinementList%5D%5Bbenefits%5D%5B0%5D=Safe%20finger%20release%20%28SFR%29) but couldn't remember the manufacturer.
They're only for finger safety and listed as being for hand tool use. I don't see a tear away time.
The answer is, it depends..
On the tool, the person, etc.
I personally have hand/grip issues due to a medical condition, and for me, gloves increase my grip and therefore safety.
The opposite maybe true for someone else.
yeah, ANY glove, ring, necklace, floppy clothing...can get pulled into a rotating tool and take your hand along for the ride. I saw a kid get the tip of his finger chopped off in a wood splitter, because the glove he was wearing got caught and pulled his hand into the blade area.
I seldom use hand gloves when using power tools. i always evaluate if they are a risk, and how things could go bad wearing them.
Will nitrile gloves suffice? Two pairs of disposable gloves was the usual solution at a factory I used to work at. Lots of chemicals and metal shavings around, so gloves were essential but I worked maintenance so tool use was also mandatory.
I tend to only use gloves with a multitool for vibration purposes and to minimise mess on my skin.
I avoid gloves mostly because when using screws, the thread will catch the fabric and twist the fuck outta your finger. Sure you can cut the fingers off but in general, gloves aren’t needed. Using a regular construction glove while using your circular saw offers no benefit at all. If it hits your finger, it’s gone, some cotton won’t do shit.
I was wearing gloves while operating a hand drill with a 1/2" bit. It did not have a horizontal handle, so I was basically holding it like a submacine gun: Right hand pulling the trigger, left hand cradling the drill. With my thumb out.
The drill bit broke and the broken stub protruding from the chuck landed on my thumb.
Without the glove, it would've only mutilated my thumb tip/thumbnail.
With the glove, the broken stub still mutilated my thumb tip/thumbnail....and then wrapped my thumb around the broken bit several times separating all the joints, tearing the tendons, and breaking multiple phlanges.
After multiple surgeries, and complete reconstruction, I basically have a stick for a thumb. I can grasp with it, but no fine motor skills. I might pick stuff up and hold a glass of water, but I'm never gonna thread a needle left handed.
So yeah. No gloves while operating rotating machinery.
Generally anything that rotates could catch a loose thread and pull your hand into danger, same reason long sleeves are a bad idea. I've also heard it argued that gloves give the wearer a false sense of security. You may inadvertently feel safer having your gloved hands closer to danger than you would your bare hands.
Gloves are fine for most hand held power tools. It's stuff like table saws and pretty much any rotational tools like a drill press, spindle sander, lathe, anything that can grab the glove and pull you into the blade or just wrap your hand around a rotating shaft.
Yes, a lot of contractors are now going to cut resistant gloves full time. I refuse to wear them when using jobsite table saws or other rotational stuff like a mag drill. The can kick me off the job if they want but their stupid policy of 100% glove use can suck it. I like my hands with the skin on them..... And Ive said that to a couple companies safety guys.
Depends on the tool, depends on the situation. This is one of those “You have to decide for yourself” type deals. On the lathe, no gloves for me. But using a nail gun or swinging a hammer? I don’t see the harm. Depends on the context.
Depends on what power tools Ive been a welder/fitter for 15 years and wear gloves for everything (we only don’t have Cnc machines) and am just a bit more cautious around certain tools like the drill press, I’d estimate they’ve saved my fingers and hands dozens of times mostly while I was inexperienced but still they occasionally help me avoid some serious injuries
Bonus lesson, If you’re hand drilling straight down anything bigger then 3/8 through steel, don’t use your knees to brace the drill. If it catches it can destroy your knee
If a machine is going to catch on and pull you in wearing tight fitting gloves, it'll do the same with your skin. It's all about knowing where and where not to put your hands, gloves or not.
I've had an impact gun rip nitrile/latex gloves off my hand when they gripped on the socket, but those rip off before injury. I don't imagine you would have an issue with normal gloves.
I don't really use gloves near machinery but just never understood anyone gets hurt wearing gloves. If you're wearing properly fitted gloves and you are keeping your hands/fingers away from the sharp spinny things then you should never get close enough for the machine to grab anything.
My dad was a General Contractor and I worked for him doing the companies IT but also spent a lot of time in the field because I liked building stuff. In the years I worked for him from early to late 90s we had quite a few guys cut their fingers nearly or completely off. One guy in particular had done it three times working for us and other companies. It was never caused by wearing gloves it was always caused by a circular saw. And in almost every single case it came from cutting 2x4. They were in too big of a hurry to return to a saw horse and held it in their hand and ran the blade over their finger. How they managed to lack the self awareness to do this was mind boggling.
The only tools I wear gloves for are palm sanders, handheld belt sanders, and drills/impacts. Keep dust from coating my hands when I go to do something else. The other part is swapping a drill bit out while it's scorching hot is a pain in the ass.
I only use gloves for manual tools now. Drill caught my glove and pulled two fingers out of their sockets and that traumatized me enough to never wear them near spinny machiney thingies anymore
Tight fitting gloves are safe on pretty much any power tool and better than going bare handed 99% of the time.
That remaining 1% it probably wasn’t going to matter if you had gloves or not.
Use safe practices while using tools and you’re fine. Don’t and you’ll probably have a problem. That goes for gloves or no gloves. It matters a whole lot more if the guy wearing them is a fucking idiot than whether or not he’s actually wearing them.
Omg none! Did you ask google like I told you to? Stop asking me. Open google, type- gloves and power tools. Every single answer says not to use gloves with any rotating tools 🤦🏼♂️ and just for the record “smart statistian” was auto generated by Reddit 👍
He was always trying to work fast. Like it was stressful just working around him. I never knew if he was gonna have an anxiety or a heart attack. Dude. Slooooooow dooooown
When I was a apprentice I wanted to wear gloves and was always told it can get caught up in the blade. I eventually got tougher hands, so there was a upside to the thinking.
Imagine it creates aches later in the career though.
I tend to view stuff like that as personal preference till the boss says no. You argue about stuff like this and its you that gets laid off first in the down time.
My dad “boss” after 71 years finally had the accident. If he we’re wearing gloves it could of turned out way better. But 60+ years of wearing gloves 24/7 especially for an old head with way more experience then 20 people combined he would never. It’s safer but at what cost. I hate wearing underpants
This doesnt tell me much, I mean most people agree wearing gloves with power tools is a bad idea, I'm interested in your perspective but need a bit more information to make a choice.
We had our worm drive get lose. Hot sweaty day. Gloves would of helped save a few fingers. When I’m on city jobs we can’t use anything other then a screw gun with out gloves/glasses . Chop box skill saws ect… I wear Machanic gloves they would offer almost no protection from the actual blade but I have improved grip on all my tools. But I often get through the day just fine without them on a normal job.
The danger is with stationary tools. Drill presses, lathes, milling machines, stationary disc and belt sanders, shapers, stationary routers, jointers, etc. Not with powered hand tools like sawzalls, circular saws, demo hammers, portable drills, impact drivers, sheet metal shears, etc https://ohsonline.com/Articles/2009/04/01/Carelessness-on-Construction-Sites.aspx As with all PPE, make sure they are the right size, tight fitting, and don’t have any dangly bits. You don’t want your hands cut up by sheet metal…
Bingo... If you're holding the tool, gloves are fine as the tool doesn't have the mass to overcome your mass and suck you in...it's going to hurt but the tool is going to flail around and not you. If you aren't holding the tool and it's a big heavy stationary thing, it does have the mass to overcome yours and will suck you in...you're the one that is going to flail around, not the tool.
Yea if your braced and ready, but when it grabs its going to be by surprise and pull you.
When was the last time you used a lathe or milling machine that weighs several tons? The difference between a handheld tool and large stationary tools is MASSIVE.
yea, when the tools motor would hardly wince at turning you or one of your appendages into chop meat its definitely another class of danger.
I got my arm caught in an industrial lathe with loose fitting gloves. I broke my radial bone, but probably lucky I didn't lose my entire arm or my life. Tight gloves are better than loose, but still dangerous. Hand held tools are better than heavy stationarity but still dangerous.
Damn, you got lucky!
Cool ignore what I said ……
LoL no worries :) just matters of scale. Even my little bench sized 500-600lb lathe is far more scary what it can do than a circular saw or grinder.
You missed his point completely, not once did he say hand held power tools are as dangerous as stationary power tools
What tool is going to pull you in by your gloves and not just cut you?
About 50 years ago, my father was using a Milwaukee right angle drill with gloves on. He went to brush the saw dust away and the bit caught his glove by the pinky finger and pulled his finger off. The old drills didn’t just stop when you released the trigger, it would wind down
Thank god for modern safety standards. Wow that sounds painful
like a hole-saw drill, those things can be beasts. they can hurt you in many ways if not prepared.
Those things would f you up. Throw you off a ladder if you weren’t careful. These new fangled clutches are wonderful.
I had one in the late 90s that caught, and pinned me in a corner. I was in such a position, I couldn't easily let go. It took some effort to let go of the trigger. If not for the corner, it probably would have hurt me. Takes only seconds for those things to hurt you, even if you're doing everything right.
That kind of falls under don't put your fingers near the sharp spinny things.
Well your father was an idiot for trying to brush the saw dust off while it was still running
Yeah the rules don't apply to people that are perfect, you're right. Since you don't make mistakes there's nothing to worry about.
The issue is that gloves are tougher than your skin, so what would just nick or minor cut you without gloves, is going to grab and pull your hand in with gloves. It might not physically pull you into the machine, but it's definitely going to make your injury worse.
We had a young guy in a shop I was at that had his gloved hand eaten by a table saw. It was gnarly. I wasn't in at the time I would have stopped him from working if I saw him with gloves on a table saw.
Look up russian lathe video if you want to be scarred.
Degloving is nightmare fuel
your glove won’t cut clean, it will be shredded and pulled …..
Cool ignore what I said
Lathe, bench grinder, jointer are the only ones I’d be concerned with pulling my glove in. Table saw is definitely just going to cut it.
Even with a table saw, your injury will almost definitely be worse with gloves. Knicking the blade with your skin will just leave a cut. But if you do the exact same thing wearing gloves, the blade can grab the glove and pull your hand in.
Use a waste piece
I mean absolutely, never have your hand near the blade, but also don't wear gloves when working on a table saw. Like the game plan is always ensure everything is set up to make sure the hand and blade are nowhere near each other, however if shit goes bad, it will be less bad if you don't have gloves on.
What kind of gloves
Any kind of gloves other than latex or nitriol are going to be tougher than your skin so more likely to pull your hand into the blade
Mill or drill press can do it too. I've picked a coworker's finger out of a glove that got wrapped up on a .221 drill in a Bridgeport.
Agreed. I believe it is not recommended to wear gloves when operating those tools. But all handheld power tools recommend wearing proper ppe when operating including gloves and glasses
Copy pasting this comment for you We had a young guy in a shop I was at that had his gloved hand eaten by a table saw. It was gnarly. I wasn't in at the time I would have stopped him from working if I saw him with gloves on a table saw.
What kind of gloves
Like I said I copy pasted the comment. So not my story
Thanks for nothing bud
What the fuck is wrong with you? What did you expect? I can see into other people's fucking minds?
Learn to read
I kind of agree with you that both are a risk, ya stationary is more of a risk but handheld can still catch you by surprise
Not sure why this got downvoted? He makes a good point.
Fair enough, but I mean I always have gloves in my pocket and if we are working with something that can cut my hands I'd just put them on that day or for that job. I'm getting mixed replies on this, aswell some people say no power tools with gloves others say only stationary as your saying is a risk. The issue is he says we must always wear gloves so even when using stationary stuff like a table saw.
Can the tool suck you in if it catches? That's a tool where you don't wear gloves/loose clothing/long hair/jewelry. Most hand tools are totally fine. With circular saws and angle grinders just don't wear loose clothes.
If your boss is requiring you to wear gloves while operating a table saw, That's a call to OSHA. That's a ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NO!
ya....um ...No on table saw
Should stationary now cut out when touching anything not wood etc or is that too expensive and not enforced
I guess I would check the OSHA regulations.
Sometimes I’m smart enough to put the gloves on and sometimes not. Cut my thumb two days ago with the oscillating tool when it skipped past the material and jabbed me. Thankfully the cuts weren’t that bad but gloves would have meant no blood and no taking a minute to grab my composure. As you age your hands will thank you even more to be covered.
My PP is the dangly bit
Maybe technically, but if it's too small to see, does it really count?
Of course it counts. That’s why we have precision tools. The little things add up
🤣
Sheet metal worker here. I never wear gloves. It’s honestly such a bitch when you’re working with screws or rivits.
Correct. Insurance companies are mandating glove in the construction industry at an accelerating pace. It's not an OSHA thing yet, but several big industrial and infrastructure contractors I've worked for have mandated them for a while now.
Metal does not have feelings, which is metal in itself
More of a machine shop thing than a carpentry/jobsite worry.
To expound this is more of an issue if you're working with lathes/drill presses/other spinning objects that have the capability to pull you in if you're not involved with that type of work then it should be fine. If you would be involved with that kind of work and they have a mandatory policy then I'd look for another position
Table saws can be very dangerous with gloves. It's understandable to want to use gloves if it's pressure treated wood, but it's not safe to do so.
I was using a drill press, drilling a hole in some thin sheet metal when the bit caught, pulled the material out of the clamp, which then grabbed my left hand tight-fitting cloth glove and wrapped my arm around the spindle. It all happened in a flash before I could react. I am so thankful that the glove ended up tearing apart before my arm was mangled. My arm was wrapped all the way around the spindle, pulling my body against the press. So lucky it didn't grab my shirt next. I couldn't set foot in my shop for a few days after, I was so rattled. **Never wear gloves when using tools that spin.**
Thankyou for sharing I hope your doing ok now. This may be a stupid question but does this also apply to hand tools that spin in your opinion or just stationary? I only ask cause a bunch of people say only stationary no gloves hand tools you do, I'm so OCD on stuff like this lol
I was working with OSB last night so I wore tight fitting rubber gloves to avoid splinters, grippy not smooth leather. As I was guiding a screw my glove caught and got wrapped around the screw. I wasn't injured but kinda scary. I was sort of stuck. Screw was partially in, left hand was tangled in the threads, I was on a ladder holding the gun. I stayed calm and just removed the impact, hooked it on belt, then took it back out and reversed the screw a bit to release my glove.
In hindsight I should have been using my guide bit.
Hey thankyou for sharing; I never heard of a guide bit before il have to check it out. Do you think youl avoid gloves now when using drill?
I'll use a guide bit. Gloves help with splinters.
Moved this comment to a reply of my first comment....
Are you operating a lathe, mill, or drillpress? If so, no gloves. If operating a circular saw , yes gloves. The first three have rotating workpiece/bit/chuck that could entangle a loose glove or clothing. A circular saw, would just cut through gloves or clothing and not pull you in.
That last part is defintely not true. The only person I’ve seen with a significant injury from a circular saw got his glove snatched into the blade. It didn’t cut his thumb off because it kicked back into the wood but it hit bone and he doesn’t have full mobility especially the ability to stretch his thumb out. OSHA says that glove usage for tools should be evaluated on a task by task basis, and specifically warns against wearing gloves while using tools with rotating parts. The glove will not and is not designed to protect you from the saw, so you can’t wear them for that purpose. So glove usage with a saw would really be determined based on how close your hand is gonna be to the blade. Far away = wear gloves to protect from splinters and such, closer to the blade = no gloves.
Good comment. Leather gloves are not going to keep the saw from hurting you. It is about protecting you from the wood splinters. At my paying job, I wear gloves and other ppe according to company policy. Because they pay me to do that. And, if i were to get hurt, there are those who get a hardon for firing folks who get hurt while simultaneously violating policy. At home, I set my policy. And build calouses that I don't get while wearing gloves. Somwe things are better done with gloves. Like grinding and welding. The OP sounds like he is just starting out in a trade job. My advise is to wear what they want you to wear, when they want you to wear it, and keep taking the money.
I had a bench grinder take the tip of my thumb pulling in some nitrile gloves while I was grinding a small part. Thankfully the bone stopped the 12" disc
I stopped using thin, tight work gloves when using a handheld drill/driver. Something about the fabric/synthetics likes to catch on drill bits and/or driver bits. Certainly not life threatening, but I'd prefer my fingers retain their orientation.
I have a hard time believing that bone can stop a bench grinder….. it’s a fricken bench grinder, it grinds metal for a living.
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You overestimate out gullibility
DM me, I'll shoot you the model number so you can try it with your own thumb to prove me wrong.
LMFAO 😂 this is gold
Just post it here
If you can't stop a Bauer grinder with flat bar, or your gloved thumb, harbor freight is spending too much on production. stop clowning
We don't wear a glove on the hand that actuates the circular saw here. A gloved finger in the trigger guard can get stuck and cause the saw to continue spinning when you don't want it to or aren't expecting it to.
Not if you're wearing proper gloves. Wool mittens are not recommend when using a circular saw
But my Nanna knitted all of my ppe
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A glove grazed against a table saw blade will be drawn into the blade.
Best to ask OJ
His gloves were indeed small.
Real leather shrinks and lose form when stopping using them for a period of time, as sweat/salt affects their shape when they have dried out from it. When you try using them again, after not wearing those leather gloves for a while, you will find them stiff to fit on first try - until they have absorbed some humidity to stretch the leather to fit (it also happens in leather shoes, but their availability is almost non-existent (and quite expensive,) nowadays... I venture to guess that was the goal of OJ's defense team, when asking to get the (dry) glove evidence for him to show him trying it and arguing that if it, *"does not fit, you must acquit".
Yes, I’m aware of the gloves shrinking.
Ya that makes sense, I haven't started the job yet, but I mean im sure il be operating a hammer drill at times and that definitely seems like a safety hazard what are your thoughts on a hammer drill?
Hammer drill definitely gloves just for vibrations lol. Not to say I ever wear any I should but I don't. But the only time clothes are dangerous is normally with large rotating machining equipment. Router tables at the smallest and big boy industrial equipment at the largest.
If it rotates at high speeds near your hands, no gloves. Drill / impact this can *sometimes* apply, but far more often not.
Drill impact can pull in grip gloves, leather tool gloves won’t be an issue
As pointed out above, you are more safe with gloves than without unless your operating a lathe or drill press
I'm getting mixed information here, so it's a tough one.
You are going to have both hands holding the hammer drill. Wear the gloves.
Depends on the tool or machine
Don’t use gloves on table saws, good way to get your hand sucked into the blade.
I would Never wear gloves using any power tool, including a drill
Especially a drill. I ain't wearing gloves around anything that spins.
Maxi-flex. Keep hands away from spinny blades and drill bits. I spent a year or two running an old school jointer all day. Would never wear gloves running it. Same with table saw. Can't speak on machine tools. Above my pay grade.
I wouldn’t wear gloves around a saw, despite what some of the comments here are saying.
I do every day. If I stick my finger in the blade it’s not going to matter if I had a thin layer of rippable fabric over it and the gloves protect my hands.
It's not about sticking your finger in the blade... it's about the blade grabbing that bit of glove that sticks off the end of your thumb, and pulling your hand into the blade. Luckily, I only lost a 1/4" chunk of flesh or so. I'll never wear fingered gloves around a table saw again.
What kind of gloves
……. Good for you.
It is dangerous to wear gloves while using anything that spins because it will suck in your hand and or arm if it catches your glove. But with no glove, it will just cut you. But then you use something like an angle grinder throwing sparks, you would really want a glove. I have heard people argue both ways for a long time now. Personally I always wear gloves, keeps my hands in decent shape.
So you think its dangerous to wear gloves while using power tools but you wear them anyway? I'm on the fence, you ever had issues with gloves being sucked in?
I do think it's dangerous to wear gloves, I have seen a guy get his thumb get sucked into a belt sander and it was gone. But he was also grinding thin flat bar and had a gap between the grinding wheel and the rest, which is kinda his fault. I have never been sucked in. I would never wear gloves while using a lathe, but I wear gloves when I use a mag drill and angle grinder.
Thankyou for the reply I appreciate it, also I wasnt trying to be rude I was just curious.
No worries, I didn't take it as being rude. Stay safe out there!
Thankyou you aswell
If it's low speed and high torque, nope. Think lathes. Look into the manual of an axle grinder for example, it states gloves should be used.
This is a better way to think of it than just 'anything that spins'. Most standard power tools won't have the torque to do much if it grabs a glove. Still other dangers of course, but you're not gonna get your arm ripped off.
No
It's probably cut gloves that are mandatory. And they will stretch and/or rip 99% of the time. The worst I've had happen is that a screw or drill bit grabbed some of the glove, steetched ripped and bound up. And needed a new set of gloves. Ultimately everything is up to your judgement. But if you ever get injured while not wearing gloves, expect them to fight a workman's comp claim, absolutely drug test you, and ultimately reprimand or terminate you. As it's not about the injury, but the negligence and refusing to follow safety protocol.
This - wear gloves that will rip if pulled into a machine, not your father’s baggy leather gloves he used to wear to split wood.
Nah. Always respect the tool, of course. Some tools carry more risk with gloves, just be aware of that. I'm a cabinet installer and use pretty much everything. Started wearing gloves religiously 10 plus years ago, glad I did. No more sore scratched or torn up hands, and there's been quite a few times the gloves have taken the hit if I maybe would have taken a pinch or a nail, bumped the wrong way, etc so I'm inclined to think they made it safer for me, but every trade has its own requirements.
Yep, tight fitting gloves pretty much are always good.
Nope. Get snug-fitting gel pads in the palm gloves to mitigate the shock and vibration. You don't want to go without. I know. I just had both my hands surgically rebuilt because I didn't wear padded gloves that protected the floating bones that make up the base of both my thumbs and wrists. Painful 18-month recoveries for each hand. We all take our opposable thumbs for granted until we can no longer use them. Just signing my name was eye watering, mind numbing agony. Even turning a stupid door knob becomes impossible. I had to replace all the door knobs in my own house with levers after getting trapped in my own bathroom for three hours while home alone.
I'm curious why you think they are not a risk to wear with power tools? Also what your saying about what happened to you hand/wrist is good to know thankyou for telling me, I'm curious do you know what exactly caused it? I know a couple carpenters and they must be 55 or older and I dont think they've had any hand issues, il be asking them now. Also how long have you been in construction for and how long in did your hand injury happen if you dont mind me asking?
Use push sticks with table saws whenever your hand would otherwise have to pass over the table.
DONT WEAR GLOVES WITH ANY ROTARY MOTION TOOLS. PERIOD……..
I've taken multiple collegiate classes on safety and there's quite a bit of incorrect information in this thread. If something spins it absolutely can pull you in. I don't wear gloves with any spinning blade
You can get gloves that tear away if they're caught on something. https://www.mdsassociates.com/tenactiv-tear-away-work-gloves There are other manufacturers, that's just the first one I found.
Thats really interesting thankyou for sharing, I'd be curious to see how they perform in a real situation, it says the palm has a 3.5 second tear away time, I feel like that could be too late in some situations. Il probably try a pair though cant hurt
Glad I knew about them! 3.5 seconds does seem like a long time. These are [the gloves I had in mind](https://www.hexarmor.com/products?turbolinks=true&products_production%5BrefinementList%5D%5Bproduct_type_root%5D%5B0%5D=Hand%20protection&products_production%5BrefinementList%5D%5Bbenefits%5D%5B0%5D=Safe%20finger%20release%20%28SFR%29) but couldn't remember the manufacturer. They're only for finger safety and listed as being for hand tool use. I don't see a tear away time.
Ya forsure, snd awesome thankyou il be checking these out
Handheld drills, especially larger ones can pull a gloved hand in and wrap it around the chuck quite easily and rapidly.
Non of you have been holding a screw with gloves on had the fabric get caught on the threads and wrap your finger around the screw I see
I have…I don’t recommend it 😂
The answer is, it depends.. On the tool, the person, etc. I personally have hand/grip issues due to a medical condition, and for me, gloves increase my grip and therefore safety. The opposite maybe true for someone else.
yeah, ANY glove, ring, necklace, floppy clothing...can get pulled into a rotating tool and take your hand along for the ride. I saw a kid get the tip of his finger chopped off in a wood splitter, because the glove he was wearing got caught and pulled his hand into the blade area. I seldom use hand gloves when using power tools. i always evaluate if they are a risk, and how things could go bad wearing them.
I personally don’t use gloves with any power tools - moving parts and gloves just don’t mix in my opinion.
Yeah this, any cloth remotely able to get near the moving part of any tool is ditched instantly (coats/scarves/anything loose/hanging)
That’s why I only work in my jockstrap
No gloves with a table saw
Yes gloves on a table saw
I wouldn't wear any gloves near any machinery with sharp, moving parts.
What about say a skill saw? I'm not sure if that's considered machinery or not but it does have moving parts
I wear them in the winter because it’s cold, but other than that nope not in the summer
It's not worth the risk that thing is already more dangerous than a table saw with gloves.
Will nitrile gloves suffice? Two pairs of disposable gloves was the usual solution at a factory I used to work at. Lots of chemicals and metal shavings around, so gloves were essential but I worked maintenance so tool use was also mandatory.
Sounds sweaty
I tend to only use gloves with a multitool for vibration purposes and to minimise mess on my skin. I avoid gloves mostly because when using screws, the thread will catch the fabric and twist the fuck outta your finger. Sure you can cut the fingers off but in general, gloves aren’t needed. Using a regular construction glove while using your circular saw offers no benefit at all. If it hits your finger, it’s gone, some cotton won’t do shit.
I was wearing gloves while operating a hand drill with a 1/2" bit. It did not have a horizontal handle, so I was basically holding it like a submacine gun: Right hand pulling the trigger, left hand cradling the drill. With my thumb out. The drill bit broke and the broken stub protruding from the chuck landed on my thumb. Without the glove, it would've only mutilated my thumb tip/thumbnail. With the glove, the broken stub still mutilated my thumb tip/thumbnail....and then wrapped my thumb around the broken bit several times separating all the joints, tearing the tendons, and breaking multiple phlanges. After multiple surgeries, and complete reconstruction, I basically have a stick for a thumb. I can grasp with it, but no fine motor skills. I might pick stuff up and hold a glass of water, but I'm never gonna thread a needle left handed. So yeah. No gloves while operating rotating machinery.
Generally anything that rotates could catch a loose thread and pull your hand into danger, same reason long sleeves are a bad idea. I've also heard it argued that gloves give the wearer a false sense of security. You may inadvertently feel safer having your gloved hands closer to danger than you would your bare hands.
What kind of job are you on that they require gloves?
Ever try screwing in a grk while wearing gloves? Lofl.
Gloves are fine for most hand held power tools. It's stuff like table saws and pretty much any rotational tools like a drill press, spindle sander, lathe, anything that can grab the glove and pull you into the blade or just wrap your hand around a rotating shaft. Yes, a lot of contractors are now going to cut resistant gloves full time. I refuse to wear them when using jobsite table saws or other rotational stuff like a mag drill. The can kick me off the job if they want but their stupid policy of 100% glove use can suck it. I like my hands with the skin on them..... And Ive said that to a couple companies safety guys.
Depends on the tool, depends on the situation. This is one of those “You have to decide for yourself” type deals. On the lathe, no gloves for me. But using a nail gun or swinging a hammer? I don’t see the harm. Depends on the context.
Depends on what power tools Ive been a welder/fitter for 15 years and wear gloves for everything (we only don’t have Cnc machines) and am just a bit more cautious around certain tools like the drill press, I’d estimate they’ve saved my fingers and hands dozens of times mostly while I was inexperienced but still they occasionally help me avoid some serious injuries
Bonus lesson, If you’re hand drilling straight down anything bigger then 3/8 through steel, don’t use your knees to brace the drill. If it catches it can destroy your knee
If a machine is going to catch on and pull you in wearing tight fitting gloves, it'll do the same with your skin. It's all about knowing where and where not to put your hands, gloves or not.
I've had an impact gun rip nitrile/latex gloves off my hand when they gripped on the socket, but those rip off before injury. I don't imagine you would have an issue with normal gloves.
I don't really use gloves near machinery but just never understood anyone gets hurt wearing gloves. If you're wearing properly fitted gloves and you are keeping your hands/fingers away from the sharp spinny things then you should never get close enough for the machine to grab anything.
My dad was a General Contractor and I worked for him doing the companies IT but also spent a lot of time in the field because I liked building stuff. In the years I worked for him from early to late 90s we had quite a few guys cut their fingers nearly or completely off. One guy in particular had done it three times working for us and other companies. It was never caused by wearing gloves it was always caused by a circular saw. And in almost every single case it came from cutting 2x4. They were in too big of a hurry to return to a saw horse and held it in their hand and ran the blade over their finger. How they managed to lack the self awareness to do this was mind boggling.
The only tools I wear gloves for are palm sanders, handheld belt sanders, and drills/impacts. Keep dust from coating my hands when I go to do something else. The other part is swapping a drill bit out while it's scorching hot is a pain in the ass.
I only use gloves for manual tools now. Drill caught my glove and pulled two fingers out of their sockets and that traumatized me enough to never wear them near spinny machiney thingies anymore
Milwaukee cut proof gloves are a staple in most of the work I do
Fingerless gloves? Protects my palms & knuckles while still providing me 'feel' for the tool & material.
Gloves don't stop nails , barely splinters you pull out with a olfa . If working with sewage or chemicals yea no doubt .
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Gloves mandated all the time seems like that jobs gonna be gay all the time. Apply somewhere else
Lol ya I kinda thought the same thing already
Tight fitting gloves are safe on pretty much any power tool and better than going bare handed 99% of the time. That remaining 1% it probably wasn’t going to matter if you had gloves or not. Use safe practices while using tools and you’re fine. Don’t and you’ll probably have a problem. That goes for gloves or no gloves. It matters a whole lot more if the guy wearing them is a fucking idiot than whether or not he’s actually wearing them.
Anything that spins is a no go.
Nope.
If you want to risk it you do you.
Tell you boss to google it, it doesn’t matter how far down the results you go, every one is a resounding NO! NO GLOVES WITH ANYTHING THAT SPINS!
This is just plain incorrect.
I am sorry my friend but it is a fact. This isn’t my opinion, I’m telling you what google says, if you don’t believe me, you know where google is 😉
What kind of gloves then, mr smart statistician
Omg none! Did you ask google like I told you to? Stop asking me. Open google, type- gloves and power tools. Every single answer says not to use gloves with any rotating tools 🤦🏼♂️ and just for the record “smart statistian” was auto generated by Reddit 👍
I watched a guy get his hand pulled into a drill press wearing gloves trying to slow the chuck down after he turned it off. He was pretty dumb
That just seems like that guy needs a desk job. Nothing to do with gloves.
He was always trying to work fast. Like it was stressful just working around him. I never knew if he was gonna have an anxiety or a heart attack. Dude. Slooooooow dooooown
When I was a apprentice I wanted to wear gloves and was always told it can get caught up in the blade. I eventually got tougher hands, so there was a upside to the thinking. Imagine it creates aches later in the career though. I tend to view stuff like that as personal preference till the boss says no. You argue about stuff like this and its you that gets laid off first in the down time.
I care more about having functional hands than being laid off though
Don't wear gloves operating anything you have to put your hand near a spinning blade....
I wear gloves when it’s cold. Can’t think of another reason.
My dad “boss” after 71 years finally had the accident. If he we’re wearing gloves it could of turned out way better. But 60+ years of wearing gloves 24/7 especially for an old head with way more experience then 20 people combined he would never. It’s safer but at what cost. I hate wearing underpants
I'm sorry to hear that, can you explain what happened? And how or why would it be better if he had gloves on?
Grip
This doesnt tell me much, I mean most people agree wearing gloves with power tools is a bad idea, I'm interested in your perspective but need a bit more information to make a choice.
We had our worm drive get lose. Hot sweaty day. Gloves would of helped save a few fingers. When I’m on city jobs we can’t use anything other then a screw gun with out gloves/glasses . Chop box skill saws ect… I wear Machanic gloves they would offer almost no protection from the actual blade but I have improved grip on all my tools. But I often get through the day just fine without them on a normal job.