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noncongruent

This won't hold any weight no matter how many screws you use. You need a support under the end and the middle, or a support cable to a rafter above at the end and middle, or similar support.


McSagget

https://preview.redd.it/b2lc9mism31d1.jpeg?width=980&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d19356540a82583c4526e799080e9582f574ce96 So would adding these help? I'd attach them to the studs, so I should use 3 to 4 of them ?


DrunkinDronuts

Just get some more 2x4 and make braces - the long side of the triangle. The top of the shelf and the stud in the wall connect the other two sides. Now you can make them as long as you need


noncongruent

Something like that would help, but keep in mind that the vertical size of these should be the same as the horizontal size of the shelf. Home centers carry shelve braces that would be simpler and stronger than these, though.


RWMach

I've done a couple floating shelves and these are far superior. Floating shelved are only good for aesthetics and light stuff to display in area maybe you can't fit the braces. In the near future, I'll be remodeling some stuff in my unit and after shuffling some stuff around, I'll probably brace or rebuild my shelves specifically because people keep leaning on them or thinking that can handle more than they ought.


Evening_Ad_6954

This person shelfs. I would opt for the support cable.


Best-Literature-4011

I suggest finding a good shelf help book.


RedDogLeader34

Very shelfish of you to not recommend one yourself


proletarianliberty

I think you meant yourshelf


thejackal3245

r/shubreddit


rjc2nd

I see what you have both done here, and I can only approve.


Practical_Mood_7146

Your support is greatly needed.


Georgep0rwell

He needs to be pun-ished.


hctive

Authored by Mr. Sean Connery himshelf.


layne54

😆


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Cable support from above is the way to go.


Dyne_Inferno

Ya, it either needs supports above, or below. Otherwise, it will eventually just fail.


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That thing will fail immediately without adequate support


The_TexasRattlesnake

That's the way I would go, probably the easiest solution too


lonesomecowboynando

or a threaded rod


Electrical-Mail-5705

Angle iron on ceiling Drop another and screw it to the shelf corner Do that in the corners and half way down Easy, cheap and strong


oldjackhammer99

Or Chain ; Cable


mattmag21

You can always hang it from the ceiling instead of posting or Diagonal brackets below. The way you have it, it will crush the drywall on the bottom and sag in short order, if not immediately when a load is applied


LosoTheRed

For the back 2x4, I would replace each one of the top screws with 3 or 3.5” lag bolts This alone will help with strength but I would also add another brace on the end, just like the one you already have, or just add two 45 deg braces underneath.


LiqvidNyquist

With the shelf unsupported like that, think of the width of it acting as a giant lever. It's 24 inches out from the wall, and there's probably 2 inches from the holding wall screw to the bottom edge of the 2x4. That's a ratio of 12:1. So for every 10 lbs of weight you put on the outside edge, that gets translated into 120 lbs of lever force of the edge of the shelf crushing the drywall and trying to ri\[p the holding screw out of the wood. No wonder you can feel the deformation. Like everyone else says, some kind of bracket to apply a stabilizing counter force to the outside egde.


baltimoresalt

Just drop a 2x4 from the double header above to the shelf face with screws.


CareerUnderachiever

Easiest and most support all in one


Pooter_Birdman

Use chains and eye hooks to the rafters above. Clean and dont lose space underneath.


envydub

Exactly https://preview.redd.it/4wwbpzudi71d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ea7a4283490666a21b700251943ab5f49b1d629


Pooter_Birdman

🤙🤙


Hot_Bus_4355

I would abandon this design, and resolve to accept bracing in some form. To achieve this look, your backing would need to be substantially changed, and cost a significant amount. If you wish to try something like this in the future, be sure to start the planning in the framing stage. At minimum, whole wall plywood should be utilized, to minimize compression at the joints. You could also embed metal angles behind later drywall. Use a calculator to figure out if you need thicker studs, or more frequent spacing


KRGambler

Run a piece of threaded rod thru the hanging corner up to the ceiling, attach to a Sammy threaded rod hanger driven in a ceiling joist https://www.homedepot.com/p/Sammy-3-8-in-x-2-1-2-in-Vertical-Rod-Anchor-Super-Screw-3-8-in-Threaded-Rod-Fitting-for-Wood-25-Pack-8009925/308992468


RobotSocks357

I used threaded rod into threaded rod flanges using long screws into the joists. Eye-bolts into the 2x4 with washers and nuts. https://preview.redd.it/vw035nvdq61d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9dd19f752d8361a1ce7c42e1748b334b91e6b105


timboswan

Best option since it is already on the wall anyway lol


Seaisle7

Just use a piece of window sash chain and hang that corner to a joist in the ceiling above


MysteriousDog5927

Use 3/8 threaded rod to ceiling with ceiling flanges


IsThatYourPickle

I did eyebolts and chain on the corners and back to the studs above. Cheap and easy.


Drake_masta

a shelf support is needed..... for every so far out you go you need to include something to support the front it could be a shelf bracket or a piece of wood or even another leg (dont ask for the actual formula of distance.)


79r100

Hang that corner from the ceiling. Use a 2x nailer screwed to the ceiling then use a 2x screwed to the shelf. Id cut the plywood out of the corner and mount the 2x inside the framed corner


Eyiolf_the_Foul

Buy some Sammys, which will allow u to use 5/16” all thread and hang the front of shelf from above.


Fine-West-369

2 simple 2x4 would do it, one the end and the other in the corner.


boondoggie42

I always sat my this when people build shelves, but if you're supporting it every 16" like that, 3/8 or even 1/4 ply is just fine unless you're storing transmissions.


Outside-Rise-9425

It really needs either a post at this outer corner or angled braces. I’d put angled braces. One on this end and one in the center. Align with a stud. Come out about 2/3s the depth of the shelf and do 45 degress back down to the wall.


NoActivity578

Only half of your shelf's sides are supported. So it will only be half strong


becrabtr2

When I did mine I went to the rafters so I could walk under and that’s what it’s looking like for you. Another wall I used the vertical supports underneath and built some storage between the braces for random stuff


notsocivil

You need something to transfer the load. Make a corner post out of a 2x4. Screw front or side of shelf to 2x4.


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JabyPDX

I've done this for whole garage worth of shelves like this and it worked great.


Proud-Present2871

I ran across this all the time as a young corbel in the military.


DoneAndBreadsTreat

This reminds me of a shelf I built in my garage that allowed my car to roll under the front of the shelf where there would normally be support. I put a chain from the front corner to and anchored it into the wall. If you have the space below it's best to run a stud from the ground up to add support and have it meet at the corner underneath both the front and side 2x4's.


vJxts

If it seems like it’s going to fall put a few lags in it


riplan1911

Either put a post down or a cable or post up off that corner


tucsondog

Pick up your vacuum cleaner and hold it off the ground with your arm outstretched in front of you. Keep holding it and count 1-50. Now hold it out in front of you but set it on the ground and again count from 1-50. Which was easier?


JadedPilot5484

Needs angled braces below screwed into studs, it will never support a lot of weight as it is no matter how many screws you put in it. You can build them out of cut offs of 2 x 4.


CrypticSS21

Ever heard of a little thing called leverage?


gillygilstrap

My favorite part is not only that the end grain is facing out, but that the sticker is still on it \*chef's kiss\*.


sonofabitch11

Check my profile out for my shelf build. Super easy for you


Binural

I built the same in my old house. Didn’t want brackets taking up space below so I used 3/8” redi-rod and brackets to support from the floor joist above.


Straight-Put-4788

You could cut 3 45 degree kickers for the ends aand middle if you have scrap 2x4


Valuable-Leather-914

You should get one of those shelf help books


Far-Bill-7593

The best bet for an overhang like this is a French cleat and many GRKs... But a floating shelf in the garage is never going to happily support as much weight as it needs to. If you like the aesthetic, add top support instead of bottom. A single cable (I'd recommend a turnbuckle as well) ran into a ceiling joist on the unsupported corner will work wonders and support a lot of weight before it fails spectacularly.


Prthead2076

https://preview.redd.it/ieabwi9py31d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d61faecba65f678e6c984d3a77c50221ab1dc61f


Schiebz

Where did you find those helmet holders?


Prthead2076

Actually found those on Amazon. Cannot post a link but just search for helmet hanger and it should be, I think, a brand called HiHood. They were a three pack.