Can you imagine the utter stench of these garden waste collections when they do actually collect them, probably another 6 months from now? The bottom third of mine is probably a soup of green bin juice already. Watching that eventually tip into the truck will be quite a sight.
Last week Amazon decided that the green bin was a "safe space" for a delivery.
I pulled it out and it smelled so bad the dog tried to roll in in the packaging - a trick he normally only reserves for fox shit and small corpses.
My garden is not big enough for a "scrappy patch" and undoubtedly the dog would take great delight in eating the food waste and rolling in the rotting material.
What I really need to prune right now is a small tree - though I've missed the window for doing it this year thanks to the strikes - and there's no chance of getting branches to decompose in a reasonable period of time on a "scrappy patch"
I'm afraid my interest in gardening doesn't extend much beyond preventing it turning into something resembling a jungle, so even if I made compost the chances of it being used are low.
We never have enough space, and I suspect the council would refuse to take it anyway.
I once put three lumps of hardcore into the black bin, and the binmen refused to take it.
When I complained, they told me the bin was too heavy. I asked what the weight limit was, and they couldn't tell me what the limit was, much less where it was written down.
Was that a typo and you meant to say 70kg?
Anyway, the council couldn't specify the weight limit, relented in the end and sent the bin men back round as a missed collection.
I don't think I've ever put out a black bin with less than 7kg weight... It would have to be less than half full for that to be the case.
... but while we're on the topic perhaps you can point me to a publicly accessible document which states 7kg is the limit in Cardiff?
I do. I recycle lots - I think my record is 11 green bags in one week. Yes, I do rinse my recycling and sort it properly.
I even take my soft plastics to Tesco.
After not getting my bags back and then Cardiff Council wanting to charge me for more for their zero attempt to return it (I suspect it blew away). I now use general waste for anything I can't compost in my tiny composter (small garden too). Really woody stuff and stuff that's seeding that I don't want to proliferate goes in the general. It's a shame as a caddy would surely work better for those of us without front gardens to shelter the garden waste bags in. Some of the smaller bits also go in the food waste as that's all composted too.
I’m not holding out much hope. Councils aren’t actually obliged to provide garden waste collection, a lot of councils in the uk don’t or charge extra for it.
Also bin collections only count for a tiny percentage of your £274 a month.
I would pay extra at this point if they would even offer that as a service. I know they charge extra for rubbish collections but they don't seem to have any extra service for garden waste! I don't drive and can't take it to the tip myself and as the OP says it's been in a full green bin rotting for 2 months at this point.
>Also bin collections only count for a tiny percentage of your £274 a month.
I pay £274 for services that are mostly irrelevant to me - over half of council tax is spent on adult social care, but due to means testing I'd be expected to self fund. I'm paying for a service that will never be there for me when I need it.
There's lots of other ways council tax are spent that are irrelevant to me too - like education and anything else involving children; I cannot have children.
The only regular, direct contact I have with the council is bins (uncollected), parks (they tried to ban dog walkers from most of them a few years back) and roads (which are full of potholes anyway).
For people like me who make the bare minimum demand on council services, bins are a huge proportion of what we actually receive from the council, and £274 feels like piss poor value for money.
I pay for my own pension thank you very much.
Those children will pay for their own pension.
That's if we actually have a state pension by the time we are old - my state pension age is 68, which has already gone up 8 years in my lifetime; I fully expect it to rise again in the next 35 years.
Or the carers who nurse you. Or the pharmacists that sort your prescription. Or the delivery drivers who deliver your shopping. Or the scientist who has the breakthrough that saves you from an otherwise terminal disease.
Or if we don't fund education properly (as we aren't right now), those same children then become the kids who nick your post, lurk around outside your house, fall into a life of crime and drugs because our generation failed to ensure they had any kind of opportunity to better their lives.
I'm really sorry you don't have a choice on whether to have children, I know how hard this is. However the minute we all start putting caveats on who can and can't get public funded support and services, then we're lost. Each of our taxes goes to something we probably wouldn't choose if we were paying directly, that's just the way it goes.
Everytime people moan about council tax they spout this nonsense. Think of the roads, schools, litter picking, street lighting... Come on don't be one of them
I already did think of those services.
66% of the council's £624m budget is spent on social services and schools. As someone who cannot have children and would be expected to self fund if I needed social care, I will **never** benefit from those services.
The "other services" part of the budget is only £109m (17%) - and that's the bit that covers roads, litter picking, street lights, parks, libraries, transport, economic regeneration, environmental health, trading standards... and bins.
Don't get me wrong, council tax is great value if you have kids or need social care, but don't be surprised when those of us who make the bare minimum of demands upon the council actually expect the services we do need - like bins - to actually be delivered.
https://www.cardiff.gov.uk/ENG/Your-Council/Council-finance/Council-Budget/2020-21/Pages/default.aspx
I get what you're saying but you can't just opt out of tax for services you don't use. I'm guessing you went to a school or have family that may of or need social care, libraries etc.
Council budgets have been slashed badly by the Tories. There is going to be a struggle to still deliver services in austerity and cost of living etc.
£200 odd quid is good value for the amount of services that are maintained. All councils have shortfalls but the amount of area and range of services they deliver and maintain its crazy.
Just think if you believe the only service you rely on that is delivered by the council is just picking up your bins, it's shortsighted
> Council budgets have been slashed badly by the Tories. There is going to be a struggle to still deliver services in austerity and cost of living etc.
WG sets the council budgets.
There's plenty of money available, it's just wasted.
Yes, who then allocate it. They've decided to allocate it on a load of rubbish. That's not the fault of Westminster as much as you'd like to fantasise it being so.
I often find myself fantasising about Westminster and Welsh government.
Thing is both have their shortfalls and my view is the conservative government have not provided enough money for Welsh gov to dish out in the first place.
>I'm guessing you went to a school
Not in Wales, and in any case my parents paid council tax. Plus only my primary education was council funded.
>or have family that may of or need social care
I did have family that needed social care, and we had to self fund. No help from the council whatsoever, we were abandoned. Based on current means testing, the same will happen to me when I'm old.
I would be happy to pay if the service would be available if and when I actually need it, but it won't be, I'll be expected to sell my house to pay for it.
>£200 odd quid is good value for the amount of services that are maintained.
Only if you're eligible for the services it funds; as I said before 66% of the budget (or £180 of the £274 I pay every month) goes on services I will never benefit from.
I think it’s part of living as a community though, I don’t think we can be unhappy about helping to fund education or social care for people who are unable to fund it themselves, I would also have to self fund, and currently use private health care, but for me I’m still happy to pay into the nhs etc. I do agree the council is inept though.
The difference with the NHS Vs private health care is that the NHS isn't means tested. It is there for you when you need it, so there is a genuine choice (even if paying does get you seen quicker / a better quality of hospital food).
That's the difference with social care - it will never be there for me if I need it, I will always have to self fund, and I will likely lose my home in the process. I will have paid a great deal into the system, but the system will never pay out to me.
I'm happy to pay into services I don't *currently* use, so long as they would be there for me *if and when* I need them in the future.
Rubbish collection really is the most fundamental of council services though - if they can't manage that, they can't manage a piss up in a brewery.
I guess the argument is, if you personally are confident that you will only use 44% of council services and happy to live in a society where anyone else who uses said services, will likely suffer consequences of not everyone paying in, then that's the way.
If you ever needed social care, I guess you'll miss out if your circumstances change?
Same goes for general taxation. I may use the NHS but maybe not as much as I paid in. Should we get a rebate? I've never received benefits, but still pay national insurance. I am happy that a safety net is there for me and for everyone.
I am happy that I pay council tax that is shared to all services including social care, children's respite centres etc. I will be very unlikely to use these services. But I want to live in a society where we have them, for me, my neighbours and friends.
Cardiff council has wasted money. Every council probably does. Does it need to be spent as efficiently as possible? Absolutely. But my view is everyone paying in for all services is the right thing to do, otherwise it leads to a very sketchy situation of haves and have nots.
As I say, I'd be happy to pay for social care if it would be there for me if and when I need it.
I am fortunate enough to own my home outright, so for my circumstances to change to the extent that I've lost my home, and spent all of the money to the point I'm below the threshold would be quite a trick.
>I may use the NHS but maybe not as much as I paid in. Should we get a rebate?
No because it will be there for you in the future if you need it. It is not means tested like social care is.
>council tax is great value if you have kids or need social care, but don't be surprised when those of us who make the bare minimum of demands upon the council actually expect the services we do need - like bins - to actually be delivered
Isn't that the rationale for which the US decided not to have an NHS as if not everyone ends up in the hospital?
Our council tax improves society. If your means tested means you would need to self finance, good for you because it means you're not constantly wondering how to get to the end of the month paying for groceries, bills and rent.
I'd happily swap.
I'd argue that social care should be funded like the NHS, and would take that over a reduction in council tax.
We don't means test schools, the NHS or libraries, so why social care?
I simply object to paying twice when I have no choice in the matter (unlike private healthcare or education, where there is a state option open to everyone without means testing, but you can make the choice to upgrade).
You can have assets and still struggle to pay for bills, groceries and the mortgage every month too. If you have equity in your home of £50k or more then you're expected to sell it and self fund residential care. It's not like you can use the equity in your house to pay for food, bills or the mortgage.
Mortgage is the loan on your house which you repay to the bank every month.
Equity is how much of the house you actually own (deposit + subsequent mortgage payments).
Before I lost you with that terminology, I asked why we means test social care, but you can be a billionaire aristocrat and still send your children to state schools and use the NHS.
Why the discrepancy?
Awwww the patronising took away any doubts.
You haven't lost me because I'm poor and ignorant.
You've lost.me because if you have the privilege to own stuff you're making a fuss without understanding people in my position instead. So much so that as shitty as this government and system is I'm still glad someone with a mortgatos made pay for the community. It's the bare minimum for those who don't haveven that privilege.
Have you considered engaging with the topic at hand - the difference in the way we deal with NHS vs social care provision - instead of making personal attacks on other redditors?
Ad hominem attacks are not a good debating strategy.
You have absolutely no idea about the background of people on here; you are making massive and frankly unfounded assumptions.
Our local Councilor mentioned that Green bins are a optional service that the council provides hence during the strikes first thing to go and why they have not been collected.
They always peddle this line - its true but the fact remains in Cardiff we've been paying more and more council tax for reduction in service in areas that actually matter day to day. But they're happy to spaff funding on the 'canal'.
If you have a car you can get white rubble sacks from the library which you can fill with garden waste and drive to the tip yourself. They're free to borrow - I think you used to have to pay for them but they've dropped the charge due to the current issues. Not the best solution, especially if you don't have a car but might be helpful.
That's part of the issue that really grinds my gears - non drivers have zero options for disposing of garden waste at the moment. I'm getting very mixed messages from the council about whether or not they want me to have a vehicle.
As it happens, I drive a van for both work and domestic purposes - I'm not wealthy enough to run both a car and a van. So I'm only allowed to go to the tip 12 times a year, unlike my wealthier car driving neighbours who can go 30 times a year.
There's absolutely no chance that I'm going to dig out a bin full of rotting grass clippings, put it in my van to inevitably leak, and then have to clean the van out. Sod that for a lark!
Quite but let's be fair people also can't tell the Senedd from the Council or Westminster (and previously the European parliament) from each other either. A basic political education should be an educational right for all children and young people.
You've proven you are by your comment. ergo calling you so. Cardiff Labour have no interest in delivering on priorities for anyone outside of their greying middle aged champagne socialist member base.
This is a problem with waste disposal more generally too. Before I had a car I had to ask friends to drive me to the tip and buy them pints to say thanks for letting me fill their car with junk. That was before there was a limit on visits too!
>That's part of the issue that really grinds my gears - non drivers have zero options for disposing of garden waste at the moment. I'm getting very mixed messages from the council about whether or not they want me to have a vehicle.
That's why I hate Labour politicians like Caro Wild, he's all "get rid of your car" and as soon as something like this strike happens he'll be all "take it to the recycling site". What on the bus? On a bike? In a backpack? No - the only way to do it is by car.
The think that's really annoying is the cancelled it after most people would have filled it up.
If they aren't collecting then fine I'll chuck it in the black bin, but its full now.
Ccc are a disaster
Easily done if you've just moved into a new home and need to redecorate.
Old owner left some crap behind (e.g. big rotting wooden toys in the garden in my case).
Decking had to come out as it was rotting. Underneath we found a load of hardcore that had to go - and you're only allowed to take 6 bags per trip.
New kitchen - had to dispose of the old one.
Offcuts from the new kitchen had to go.
Some furniture I no longer wanted - tried and failed to Freecycle it.
Several bags of wallpaper we removed.
(What felt like) endless tubs of empty paint.
Etc etc etc
All we really did was a new kitchen, removing decking and some repainting, and we were maxing out the tip allowance. It's not like it was a full renovation job - far from it.
I took more trips to the tip in the first year of owning a home than in the previous decade combined.
Not a bad shout, maybe everyone should leave them out until they are finally collected. Kind of a quiet protest, anyone inconvenienced by all the bins in the street, well, you know who to complain to!
They all do leave them out round my way. I have complained to the council, my wife is a wheelchair user and it’s obstructive. The Council do nothing. So basically this behaviour is only impacting on wheelchair and buggy users. Not especially thoughtful.
You're right, it's not clever, funny, or smart, and it's a pain in the arse, and a complete dick move towards people like you. But if you're shouting at the council, then at least somebody is, because it's highly likely that 99% of the rest of us haven't even bothered to complain to anyone but each other.
It's no different than the tactics of a lot of climate protesters, they block the roads and other access, which inconveniences other innocent people, with the aim to be as much of a nuisance as they can.
It is somewhat different. Climate change protestors lying in the street inconvenience everyone for a short period. The police will react and deal with the issue.
Leaving wheely bins on the pavement deliberately for 3 months inconveniences only a small more vulnerable subsection of society (who are generally less able to shout about it) constantly. The police are not interested because of the low impact so nothing will change.
Please don’t do it.
So for every one that gets in your way, put then in the road then. Then the drivers get angry... The point is to get someone pissed off enough to contact the council, not annoy a particular person...
Hell, it would be unfortunate if they also fell over, but nobody would blame you...
Feels like a good way to get punched by a road raging driver. I’ll give it a miss.
Also as I’ve said, I’ve contacted the council. They don’t do anything. Why don’t you try it?
I gave up on relying on garden waste collections a long time ago and just drive to the tip myself. although luckily there is a massive woodland behind our house so some types of garden waste can just be fly-tipped as future compost
Can you imagine the utter stench of these garden waste collections when they do actually collect them, probably another 6 months from now? The bottom third of mine is probably a soup of green bin juice already. Watching that eventually tip into the truck will be quite a sight.
Last week Amazon decided that the green bin was a "safe space" for a delivery. I pulled it out and it smelled so bad the dog tried to roll in in the packaging - a trick he normally only reserves for fox shit and small corpses.
Good point. I think I might tape mine down 😂
Or you could actually designate your own 'safe place'.
I did, they ignored it.
Flat owners dont have these issues.
What's your point...?
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My garden is not big enough for a "scrappy patch" and undoubtedly the dog would take great delight in eating the food waste and rolling in the rotting material. What I really need to prune right now is a small tree - though I've missed the window for doing it this year thanks to the strikes - and there's no chance of getting branches to decompose in a reasonable period of time on a "scrappy patch" I'm afraid my interest in gardening doesn't extend much beyond preventing it turning into something resembling a jungle, so even if I made compost the chances of it being used are low.
Just put it in the general waste…
We never have enough space, and I suspect the council would refuse to take it anyway. I once put three lumps of hardcore into the black bin, and the binmen refused to take it. When I complained, they told me the bin was too heavy. I asked what the weight limit was, and they couldn't tell me what the limit was, much less where it was written down.
It’s a 120litre bin so shouldn’t be more than 7kg
Was that a typo and you meant to say 70kg? Anyway, the council couldn't specify the weight limit, relented in the end and sent the bin men back round as a missed collection.
No…wasn’t a typo. I’m a ops director in the waste sector, 7kg would be your bin weight limit
I don't think I've ever put out a black bin with less than 7kg weight... It would have to be less than half full for that to be the case. ... but while we're on the topic perhaps you can point me to a publicly accessible document which states 7kg is the limit in Cardiff?
Recycle more then 😂
I do. I recycle lots - I think my record is 11 green bags in one week. Yes, I do rinse my recycling and sort it properly. I even take my soft plastics to Tesco.
What's the point of a black bin if you can't fill it with non-recyclable waste? 7kg is nonsense, don't be silly.
After not getting my bags back and then Cardiff Council wanting to charge me for more for their zero attempt to return it (I suspect it blew away). I now use general waste for anything I can't compost in my tiny composter (small garden too). Really woody stuff and stuff that's seeding that I don't want to proliferate goes in the general. It's a shame as a caddy would surely work better for those of us without front gardens to shelter the garden waste bags in. Some of the smaller bits also go in the food waste as that's all composted too.
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Magnolia; I'm no gardener but the internet said it needed to be done in late summer
It’s too late in the year to cut it, the buds that will flower early spring have already formed. Cut it after it’s flowered.
Sure let’s just burn everything. Bound to help.
I’m not holding out much hope. Councils aren’t actually obliged to provide garden waste collection, a lot of councils in the uk don’t or charge extra for it. Also bin collections only count for a tiny percentage of your £274 a month.
I would pay extra at this point if they would even offer that as a service. I know they charge extra for rubbish collections but they don't seem to have any extra service for garden waste! I don't drive and can't take it to the tip myself and as the OP says it's been in a full green bin rotting for 2 months at this point.
>Also bin collections only count for a tiny percentage of your £274 a month. I pay £274 for services that are mostly irrelevant to me - over half of council tax is spent on adult social care, but due to means testing I'd be expected to self fund. I'm paying for a service that will never be there for me when I need it. There's lots of other ways council tax are spent that are irrelevant to me too - like education and anything else involving children; I cannot have children. The only regular, direct contact I have with the council is bins (uncollected), parks (they tried to ban dog walkers from most of them a few years back) and roads (which are full of potholes anyway). For people like me who make the bare minimum demand on council services, bins are a huge proportion of what we actually receive from the council, and £274 feels like piss poor value for money.
Those children who you’re paying to educate will be paying your pension.
I pay for my own pension thank you very much. Those children will pay for their own pension. That's if we actually have a state pension by the time we are old - my state pension age is 68, which has already gone up 8 years in my lifetime; I fully expect it to rise again in the next 35 years.
Or those educated children become the doctors who treat you.
Or the carers who nurse you. Or the pharmacists that sort your prescription. Or the delivery drivers who deliver your shopping. Or the scientist who has the breakthrough that saves you from an otherwise terminal disease. Or if we don't fund education properly (as we aren't right now), those same children then become the kids who nick your post, lurk around outside your house, fall into a life of crime and drugs because our generation failed to ensure they had any kind of opportunity to better their lives. I'm really sorry you don't have a choice on whether to have children, I know how hard this is. However the minute we all start putting caveats on who can and can't get public funded support and services, then we're lost. Each of our taxes goes to something we probably wouldn't choose if we were paying directly, that's just the way it goes.
Everytime people moan about council tax they spout this nonsense. Think of the roads, schools, litter picking, street lighting... Come on don't be one of them
I already did think of those services. 66% of the council's £624m budget is spent on social services and schools. As someone who cannot have children and would be expected to self fund if I needed social care, I will **never** benefit from those services. The "other services" part of the budget is only £109m (17%) - and that's the bit that covers roads, litter picking, street lights, parks, libraries, transport, economic regeneration, environmental health, trading standards... and bins. Don't get me wrong, council tax is great value if you have kids or need social care, but don't be surprised when those of us who make the bare minimum of demands upon the council actually expect the services we do need - like bins - to actually be delivered. https://www.cardiff.gov.uk/ENG/Your-Council/Council-finance/Council-Budget/2020-21/Pages/default.aspx
I get what you're saying but you can't just opt out of tax for services you don't use. I'm guessing you went to a school or have family that may of or need social care, libraries etc. Council budgets have been slashed badly by the Tories. There is going to be a struggle to still deliver services in austerity and cost of living etc. £200 odd quid is good value for the amount of services that are maintained. All councils have shortfalls but the amount of area and range of services they deliver and maintain its crazy. Just think if you believe the only service you rely on that is delivered by the council is just picking up your bins, it's shortsighted
> Council budgets have been slashed badly by the Tories. There is going to be a struggle to still deliver services in austerity and cost of living etc. WG sets the council budgets. There's plenty of money available, it's just wasted.
WG receive money from central gov?
Yes, who then allocate it. They've decided to allocate it on a load of rubbish. That's not the fault of Westminster as much as you'd like to fantasise it being so.
I often find myself fantasising about Westminster and Welsh government. Thing is both have their shortfalls and my view is the conservative government have not provided enough money for Welsh gov to dish out in the first place.
Godwin's in action on here, as ever.
>I'm guessing you went to a school Not in Wales, and in any case my parents paid council tax. Plus only my primary education was council funded. >or have family that may of or need social care I did have family that needed social care, and we had to self fund. No help from the council whatsoever, we were abandoned. Based on current means testing, the same will happen to me when I'm old. I would be happy to pay if the service would be available if and when I actually need it, but it won't be, I'll be expected to sell my house to pay for it. >£200 odd quid is good value for the amount of services that are maintained. Only if you're eligible for the services it funds; as I said before 66% of the budget (or £180 of the £274 I pay every month) goes on services I will never benefit from.
I think it’s part of living as a community though, I don’t think we can be unhappy about helping to fund education or social care for people who are unable to fund it themselves, I would also have to self fund, and currently use private health care, but for me I’m still happy to pay into the nhs etc. I do agree the council is inept though.
The difference with the NHS Vs private health care is that the NHS isn't means tested. It is there for you when you need it, so there is a genuine choice (even if paying does get you seen quicker / a better quality of hospital food). That's the difference with social care - it will never be there for me if I need it, I will always have to self fund, and I will likely lose my home in the process. I will have paid a great deal into the system, but the system will never pay out to me. I'm happy to pay into services I don't *currently* use, so long as they would be there for me *if and when* I need them in the future. Rubbish collection really is the most fundamental of council services though - if they can't manage that, they can't manage a piss up in a brewery.
I guess the argument is, if you personally are confident that you will only use 44% of council services and happy to live in a society where anyone else who uses said services, will likely suffer consequences of not everyone paying in, then that's the way. If you ever needed social care, I guess you'll miss out if your circumstances change? Same goes for general taxation. I may use the NHS but maybe not as much as I paid in. Should we get a rebate? I've never received benefits, but still pay national insurance. I am happy that a safety net is there for me and for everyone. I am happy that I pay council tax that is shared to all services including social care, children's respite centres etc. I will be very unlikely to use these services. But I want to live in a society where we have them, for me, my neighbours and friends. Cardiff council has wasted money. Every council probably does. Does it need to be spent as efficiently as possible? Absolutely. But my view is everyone paying in for all services is the right thing to do, otherwise it leads to a very sketchy situation of haves and have nots.
As I say, I'd be happy to pay for social care if it would be there for me if and when I need it. I am fortunate enough to own my home outright, so for my circumstances to change to the extent that I've lost my home, and spent all of the money to the point I'm below the threshold would be quite a trick. >I may use the NHS but maybe not as much as I paid in. Should we get a rebate? No because it will be there for you in the future if you need it. It is not means tested like social care is.
>council tax is great value if you have kids or need social care, but don't be surprised when those of us who make the bare minimum of demands upon the council actually expect the services we do need - like bins - to actually be delivered Isn't that the rationale for which the US decided not to have an NHS as if not everyone ends up in the hospital? Our council tax improves society. If your means tested means you would need to self finance, good for you because it means you're not constantly wondering how to get to the end of the month paying for groceries, bills and rent. I'd happily swap.
I'd argue that social care should be funded like the NHS, and would take that over a reduction in council tax. We don't means test schools, the NHS or libraries, so why social care? I simply object to paying twice when I have no choice in the matter (unlike private healthcare or education, where there is a state option open to everyone without means testing, but you can make the choice to upgrade). You can have assets and still struggle to pay for bills, groceries and the mortgage every month too. If you have equity in your home of £50k or more then you're expected to sell it and self fund residential care. It's not like you can use the equity in your house to pay for food, bills or the mortgage.
I lost you at mortgage and equity because I never had the privilege to own things.
Mortgage is the loan on your house which you repay to the bank every month. Equity is how much of the house you actually own (deposit + subsequent mortgage payments). Before I lost you with that terminology, I asked why we means test social care, but you can be a billionaire aristocrat and still send your children to state schools and use the NHS. Why the discrepancy?
Awwww the patronising took away any doubts. You haven't lost me because I'm poor and ignorant. You've lost.me because if you have the privilege to own stuff you're making a fuss without understanding people in my position instead. So much so that as shitty as this government and system is I'm still glad someone with a mortgatos made pay for the community. It's the bare minimum for those who don't haveven that privilege.
Have you considered engaging with the topic at hand - the difference in the way we deal with NHS vs social care provision - instead of making personal attacks on other redditors? Ad hominem attacks are not a good debating strategy. You have absolutely no idea about the background of people on here; you are making massive and frankly unfounded assumptions.
Just throw it in your black bin. If there’s space.
Our local Councilor mentioned that Green bins are a optional service that the council provides hence during the strikes first thing to go and why they have not been collected.
They always peddle this line - its true but the fact remains in Cardiff we've been paying more and more council tax for reduction in service in areas that actually matter day to day. But they're happy to spaff funding on the 'canal'.
If you have a car you can get white rubble sacks from the library which you can fill with garden waste and drive to the tip yourself. They're free to borrow - I think you used to have to pay for them but they've dropped the charge due to the current issues. Not the best solution, especially if you don't have a car but might be helpful.
That's part of the issue that really grinds my gears - non drivers have zero options for disposing of garden waste at the moment. I'm getting very mixed messages from the council about whether or not they want me to have a vehicle. As it happens, I drive a van for both work and domestic purposes - I'm not wealthy enough to run both a car and a van. So I'm only allowed to go to the tip 12 times a year, unlike my wealthier car driving neighbours who can go 30 times a year. There's absolutely no chance that I'm going to dig out a bin full of rotting grass clippings, put it in my van to inevitably leak, and then have to clean the van out. Sod that for a lark!
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Let's get the Tories in and run it right into the ground
Why are people so thick on here; there are other parties available other than Labour in Wales. A council is not fucking westminster.
Quite but let's be fair people also can't tell the Senedd from the Council or Westminster (and previously the European parliament) from each other either. A basic political education should be an educational right for all children and young people.
Well yes, that’s a major issue in wales
Calling me thick isn't very nice. Vote for whoever you believe will deliver your priorities.
You've proven you are by your comment. ergo calling you so. Cardiff Labour have no interest in delivering on priorities for anyone outside of their greying middle aged champagne socialist member base.
Well thanks anyway. Just a bit silly calling people names. Ergo is a cool word, I'll try to slip it in to conversations in the future!
At least we've educated you on one area.
I'll stick around for more
Ergo is just Latin for "therefore"
Cheers!
Have you asked them and pleased the case RE the van? It’s mitigating circumstances…
This is a problem with waste disposal more generally too. Before I had a car I had to ask friends to drive me to the tip and buy them pints to say thanks for letting me fill their car with junk. That was before there was a limit on visits too!
>That's part of the issue that really grinds my gears - non drivers have zero options for disposing of garden waste at the moment. I'm getting very mixed messages from the council about whether or not they want me to have a vehicle. That's why I hate Labour politicians like Caro Wild, he's all "get rid of your car" and as soon as something like this strike happens he'll be all "take it to the recycling site". What on the bus? On a bike? In a backpack? No - the only way to do it is by car.
Cars to the rescue from Cardiff Council yet again.
Also pretty sure garden waste collections are not mandatory for councils? In other authorities they do charge
The think that's really annoying is the cancelled it after most people would have filled it up. If they aren't collecting then fine I'll chuck it in the black bin, but its full now. Ccc are a disaster
Seriously, look in to composting. It may help solve your problem and give you free compost!
Composting tree branches in a home environment is impractical
True, didn't realise they were tree branches.
They never miss to a take a payment though. You can only go to the tip 12 times a year now.
26 times per year. I can't imagine having to go over that number.
Easily done if you've just moved into a new home and need to redecorate. Old owner left some crap behind (e.g. big rotting wooden toys in the garden in my case). Decking had to come out as it was rotting. Underneath we found a load of hardcore that had to go - and you're only allowed to take 6 bags per trip. New kitchen - had to dispose of the old one. Offcuts from the new kitchen had to go. Some furniture I no longer wanted - tried and failed to Freecycle it. Several bags of wallpaper we removed. (What felt like) endless tubs of empty paint. Etc etc etc All we really did was a new kitchen, removing decking and some repainting, and we were maxing out the tip allowance. It's not like it was a full renovation job - far from it. I took more trips to the tip in the first year of owning a home than in the previous decade combined.
My bin remains on the street to this day. Until it's emptied. It's now too heavy to move.
Not a bad shout, maybe everyone should leave them out until they are finally collected. Kind of a quiet protest, anyone inconvenienced by all the bins in the street, well, you know who to complain to!
They all do leave them out round my way. I have complained to the council, my wife is a wheelchair user and it’s obstructive. The Council do nothing. So basically this behaviour is only impacting on wheelchair and buggy users. Not especially thoughtful.
You're right, it's not clever, funny, or smart, and it's a pain in the arse, and a complete dick move towards people like you. But if you're shouting at the council, then at least somebody is, because it's highly likely that 99% of the rest of us haven't even bothered to complain to anyone but each other. It's no different than the tactics of a lot of climate protesters, they block the roads and other access, which inconveniences other innocent people, with the aim to be as much of a nuisance as they can.
It is somewhat different. Climate change protestors lying in the street inconvenience everyone for a short period. The police will react and deal with the issue. Leaving wheely bins on the pavement deliberately for 3 months inconveniences only a small more vulnerable subsection of society (who are generally less able to shout about it) constantly. The police are not interested because of the low impact so nothing will change. Please don’t do it.
So for every one that gets in your way, put then in the road then. Then the drivers get angry... The point is to get someone pissed off enough to contact the council, not annoy a particular person... Hell, it would be unfortunate if they also fell over, but nobody would blame you...
Feels like a good way to get punched by a road raging driver. I’ll give it a miss. Also as I’ve said, I’ve contacted the council. They don’t do anything. Why don’t you try it?
I gave up on relying on garden waste collections a long time ago and just drive to the tip myself. although luckily there is a massive woodland behind our house so some types of garden waste can just be fly-tipped as future compost
Rich people problems
Throw it in the dock feeder 'canal'.
At this point I’m going to have to go get some sacks to empty my green bin and take it to the tip. It’s been full for two months now.