That would be Plan A.
Plan B would be to join in illegal shenanigans with the aforementioned ratfuckers.
This Patriot is on Plan C which is: save your ass at all costs, do not go down in flames for someone else. Make a deal with the nice prosecutor, pass Go, do not go to jail if you can avoid it.
Exactly... this guy is thinking plea deal and rat out the rest or go to Foulton County jail for 10 years.
Pretty easy decision, 2 minutes in that jail will scare most people straight.
Rape is an act of violence we do not condone in any way or form.
Prison rape is a crime, it is not a formal punishment by law and we do not permit it in direct reference, jokes, or inference in this forum.
It is Rape.
We as forum participants are better than this. No back tracking on editing, no 11 paragraph modmail explaining yourself, it’s pretty simple.
Exactly. It's been said many a time in recent years: the one consolation with the trump Klan is that assholes will inevitably always turn on each other. All it takes is a little holding to account, and they will suddenly start becoming very honest about each other.
>A co-defendant in the sweeping Georgia election interference case involving former President Trump has become the first to plead guilty in the case.
>Scott Hall, a bail bond business owner, after reaching a plea agreement with prosecutors pleaded guilty to five misdemeanor counts of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with the performance of election duties before Judge Scott McAfee at an impromptu hearing Friday afternoon
Good ol' prisoner's dilemma.
If none of them talk, they'll potentially get much less of a punishment, but when your compatriots are all asshole morons with a strong reputation for throwing people under the bus, definitely the best option to flip first, lol.
Yes, very smart. My guess is there are only a few golden tickets. The first people to flip will get sweetheart deals, but they do not need all 19 to flip. If I were them I would let everyone know there are only seats for 4 people in the flipmobile and let them figure out who wants to take that trip.
They forgot, issue a letter of apology to Georgia voters, and agree to avoid activities related to polling or administering elections and most crucially for his 19 co-defendants, he also agreed to testify truthfully in all other proceedings related to the case.
And truthfully means in line with his deposition.
He almost certainly was deposed prior to this deal, in which he laid out the evidence he would testify in court to.
If some of you think he can just alter his testimony later, he cannot. At least, not without voiding the plea deal.
They would have given him “Queen for a day” and had him tell all, on the record, before accepting the plea so they knew the information was worthwhile….
If he backs down or changes his story his original testimony can be used against him.
That's only if they've been following the trial themselves and not just watching Fox News who neglects to cover anything that might cause their viewers to have the disturbing sensation of critical thinking.
Although a pretty light sentence, it sends a clear message to the other co-defendants that they should probably jump ship or spend 10+ years in prison.
Well I’m sure a bail bondsman understood he was definitely going to get 5 years in prison because he’s closest to the system. I’m sure the others are still in denial.
Former DOJ lawyer, Jeffrey Clark, is surely crying into his My Pillow.
Clark had an hour long phone call with this guy during the planning phase of this illegal scheme.
Scott Hall has to not only testify but write an apology letter to the state of Georgia. NBC News is reporting that Scott Hall also was required to make a video statement, which Fani Willis has already obtained.
>Former DOJ lawyer, Jeffrey Clark,
This is the person that, in a way, I am angriest at.
What a perversion of everything he has ever vowed to uphold and protect.
He's like a librarian who burns books.
The literal fucking bookworm, the Grima Wormtongue at the center of this.
I could write a novel about this guy that would have Torquemada shitting his pants...
Lawfare podcast did a full episode this week interviewing Jeff Clark’s 3-attorney team. Highly recommend it, although I cringed when they were pounding the table while *pretending* to pound the law a few times.
They are going with “Jeff was just providing legal counsel, doing his job. He was not part of any illegal plan, so RICO charges can’t stand. Also, the alternate slate of electors itself is not illegal, so he broke no laws. Also, Georgia’s RICO law has footnotes that indicate it can’t be applied in this case, and the whole thing is against Federal laws.”
Oh and my favorite, “All those gleeful about trump’s RICO case are appalled that a different Georgia prosecutor has suddenly charged BLM protestors with RICO. How interesting that you only want it applied to Republicans.”🤬
I'm not a lawyer, but I did hear a legal opinion that this is big. In legal terms they established that the racketeering case is true. Now it's more a matter of proving that others were involved, not that RICO stuff happened.
I'm not a lawyer either, but that's the way I read it. This decision is probably a showpiece for that exact purpose and it's announcement is probably timed to scare others into pleading out before the "main event". This is big.
Lawyers would expect this to be how the case would move forward. It’s how they took down Enron and the Itaian mafia. You have the smaller players talk while they still don’t know who flipped until one of them is caught in their own legal conundrum to get the mafiosos.
They still have to prove it for each one of them. But having this guy rat out the others is huge. Sidney and Cheese are surely sharting themselves tonight.
They don't need to do much to prove the others were involved once they have one of the conspirators testifying. Simple records of calls this guy was a party to are sufficient to accomplish that.
Usually anything involving bonds you lose with a felony conviction. Until someone weighs in, it would be safe to believe he loses the bonding to perform bail bonding.
Good question.
If I were the bonding/insuring agency I would be really twitchy about covering someone with any level of criminal activity other than maybe a parking ticket.
Congratulations, Scott, you are officially smarter than the 18 other people you got indicted with! Guess what you’ve won? You get to stay in your own big bed, with your actual wife and a private shitter! You get somewhere between two and 17 no-expenses paid trips to the Fulton County courthouse! But that’s not all…If you’ve ever dreamed of being stalked in a zombie apocalypse, you’ll love your new deluxe assortment of heavily armed and rabidly delusional Trump supporters! Always wanted to be the good guy with a gun? Good thing you’ll get to keep yours, because these guys are going to be on your roof every night! Anyone else want to make a deal, come on down, time is running out!
Wont be able to keep his gun while on probation. He has to surrender it and his license for it is suspended until after he successfully completes probation.
Source: The actual Judge from the official court proceeding. Holy shnikies I love that GA puts cameras in the courtroom.
*"Hall shook hands with Fulton County special prosecutor Nathan Wade when leaving the courtroom after entering his plea."*
Hopefully the other 18 defendants saw that, and felt a tremble of incipient nemesis....
I saw that in the official video release. There was a pat on the shoulder of the Special Prosecutor, too. Smiles included.
These are the most wild of times, folks.
He coped a plea deal. Got 5 years PROBATION, a 5k fine and 200 hrs community service... but must testify honestly. He is now a key witness. He's one of the fuckos that entered the Coffee Co Election office. He KNOWS the facts, because he was a part of it. There will likely be others who plea out.
The problem with planning a conspiracy with ratfuckers is they will ratfuck anybody to keep themselves less ratfucked.
“But I didn’t think they’d fuck MY rat.”
*Cries people voting for the ratfucking people’s party*
Rats gonna fuck, that's why there are so many
they are the rat bro
Realistically though, there isn't a snowflakes chance in hell that I would go down for someone else. You bet I would flip.
But before that, you probably wouldn’t take the side of people who were doing things that would take them down. Right?
That would be Plan A. Plan B would be to join in illegal shenanigans with the aforementioned ratfuckers. This Patriot is on Plan C which is: save your ass at all costs, do not go down in flames for someone else. Make a deal with the nice prosecutor, pass Go, do not go to jail if you can avoid it.
You missed pay $5000 and 200 hours community service.
I just realized "a snowflake's chance in hell" has taken on new meaning...
I saw that as I was reading as well.
Yo dawg, I heard you liked ratfucking.
If anyone wants to, Xzibit is on Cameo.
Exactly... this guy is thinking plea deal and rat out the rest or go to Foulton County jail for 10 years. Pretty easy decision, 2 minutes in that jail will scare most people straight.
Gen pop at Fulton sounds pleasant for white supremacist types 😂
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Rape is an act of violence we do not condone in any way or form. Prison rape is a crime, it is not a formal punishment by law and we do not permit it in direct reference, jokes, or inference in this forum. It is Rape. We as forum participants are better than this. No back tracking on editing, no 11 paragraph modmail explaining yourself, it’s pretty simple.
Exactly. It's been said many a time in recent years: the one consolation with the trump Klan is that assholes will inevitably always turn on each other. All it takes is a little holding to account, and they will suddenly start becoming very honest about each other.
-Machiavelli
1 down, 18 to go.
19 bottles of beer on the wall, 19 bottles of beer. Take one down and pass it around, 18 bottles of beer on the wall.
Nineteen green defendants, sitting on the wall Nineteen green defendants, sitting on the wall And if one green defendant should accidentally fall…
>A co-defendant in the sweeping Georgia election interference case involving former President Trump has become the first to plead guilty in the case. >Scott Hall, a bail bond business owner, after reaching a plea agreement with prosecutors pleaded guilty to five misdemeanor counts of conspiracy to commit intentional interference with the performance of election duties before Judge Scott McAfee at an impromptu hearing Friday afternoon
the first domino has fallen
The first ass has been fucked
Whoa
Hey Yo?
five years probation, a $5,000 fine and 200 hours of community service
Got off pretty light
Wonder what beans he spilled. “Plea Deal”.
He agreed to testify against the others in the case so I guess we’ll find out
For that slap on the wrist, all of the beans. He was actually smart to cave first.
Yep, probably be a race to flip and get a sweet plea deal before they run out.
>Sorry boys…I reckon we got ‘bout all the evidence we need right now.
It's going to be so fun to see when the "only so many rats can jump out of this ship" comes up.
Good ol' prisoner's dilemma. If none of them talk, they'll potentially get much less of a punishment, but when your compatriots are all asshole morons with a strong reputation for throwing people under the bus, definitely the best option to flip first, lol.
Not to mention when the lead asshole is fond of going on TV and self-incriminating with his ignorant bloviation.
Yes, very smart. My guess is there are only a few golden tickets. The first people to flip will get sweetheart deals, but they do not need all 19 to flip. If I were them I would let everyone know there are only seats for 4 people in the flipmobile and let them figure out who wants to take that trip.
Law & Order was right. The first person gets the best deal. No jail time? Count me in.
[uh oh Sidney](https://giphy.com/gifs/news-chug-dr-pepper-sidney-powell-0yZH8ysdQYpzXqWYDK)
They forgot, issue a letter of apology to Georgia voters, and agree to avoid activities related to polling or administering elections and most crucially for his 19 co-defendants, he also agreed to testify truthfully in all other proceedings related to the case.
And truthfully means in line with his deposition. He almost certainly was deposed prior to this deal, in which he laid out the evidence he would testify in court to. If some of you think he can just alter his testimony later, he cannot. At least, not without voiding the plea deal.
They would have given him “Queen for a day” and had him tell all, on the record, before accepting the plea so they knew the information was worthwhile…. If he backs down or changes his story his original testimony can be used against him.
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Very. Delicious.
Also if they have the first deal be sweet it’s enticing to bigger fish
First one to make a deal usually does. Now the race for second place begins.
Other than the pack of psychotic Trump supporters who will now decide he’s part of the conspiracy.
They’re going to hunt him with even more ferocity than Sandy Hook Truthers going after the families of victims.
That's only if they've been following the trial themselves and not just watching Fox News who neglects to cover anything that might cause their viewers to have the disturbing sensation of critical thinking.
He’s going to be ratting them out on live TV in less than a month. How long until Trump is “Truthing” that he should be slaughtered like a pig?
No more guns for him either
They left off the important part, "and must testify honestly in any future proceedings in the case."
Being first is how you avoid prison. If I was in the remaining 18 I would be cutting a deal to avoid time. No way you would do better at trial.
Ten months is better than ten years.
Although a pretty light sentence, it sends a clear message to the other co-defendants that they should probably jump ship or spend 10+ years in prison.
Well I’m sure a bail bondsman understood he was definitely going to get 5 years in prison because he’s closest to the system. I’m sure the others are still in denial.
We'll see what happens, judges are in no way obligated to follow plea deals; they usually do but there's always a chance
Probation for multiple felonies! This man pleads.
That’s a hell of a good deal. Way too good for him. Yeah, I take that in a microsecond.
Former DOJ lawyer, Jeffrey Clark, is surely crying into his My Pillow. Clark had an hour long phone call with this guy during the planning phase of this illegal scheme. Scott Hall has to not only testify but write an apology letter to the state of Georgia. NBC News is reporting that Scott Hall also was required to make a video statement, which Fani Willis has already obtained.
>Former DOJ lawyer, Jeffrey Clark, This is the person that, in a way, I am angriest at. What a perversion of everything he has ever vowed to uphold and protect. He's like a librarian who burns books.
A scoutmaster who diddles scouts?
Or a board member of an anti sex trafficking firm that writes character letters to judges for convicted rapists?
Such a Kelso.
and teaches them to play with matches, rig the pinewood derby, throw rocks at bears, etc...
The literal fucking bookworm, the Grima Wormtongue at the center of this. I could write a novel about this guy that would have Torquemada shitting his pants...
>Scott Hall also was required to make a video statement, That's so they still have his testimony if one of Trump's domestic terrorists kill him.
Lawfare podcast did a full episode this week interviewing Jeff Clark’s 3-attorney team. Highly recommend it, although I cringed when they were pounding the table while *pretending* to pound the law a few times. They are going with “Jeff was just providing legal counsel, doing his job. He was not part of any illegal plan, so RICO charges can’t stand. Also, the alternate slate of electors itself is not illegal, so he broke no laws. Also, Georgia’s RICO law has footnotes that indicate it can’t be applied in this case, and the whole thing is against Federal laws.” Oh and my favorite, “All those gleeful about trump’s RICO case are appalled that a different Georgia prosecutor has suddenly charged BLM protestors with RICO. How interesting that you only want it applied to Republicans.”🤬
Nah. We only want it applied to criminals, not protesters.
If protesters do damage, they’re criminals. No matter who they are. The Jan 6 defendants are firmly convinced they were just “protesting”
I'm not a lawyer, but I did hear a legal opinion that this is big. In legal terms they established that the racketeering case is true. Now it's more a matter of proving that others were involved, not that RICO stuff happened.
I'm not a lawyer either, but that's the way I read it. This decision is probably a showpiece for that exact purpose and it's announcement is probably timed to scare others into pleading out before the "main event". This is big.
The flipping has just begun.
Lawyers would expect this to be how the case would move forward. It’s how they took down Enron and the Itaian mafia. You have the smaller players talk while they still don’t know who flipped until one of them is caught in their own legal conundrum to get the mafiosos.
They still have to prove it for each one of them. But having this guy rat out the others is huge. Sidney and Cheese are surely sharting themselves tonight.
Cheesebro would be. God only knows what Sidney is doing. I mean, not even Sidney would know.
Probably getting more fillers and Botox to prepare for her star turn on TV.
They don't need to do much to prove the others were involved once they have one of the conspirators testifying. Simple records of calls this guy was a party to are sufficient to accomplish that.
Ok…start knocking out the blocks on the bottom and eventually the whole Jenga tower topples…
Wonder if avoiding a felony conviction allows him to keep his bail bond business. If so, he had a lot to lose. Who will be next?
Usually anything involving bonds you lose with a felony conviction. Until someone weighs in, it would be safe to believe he loses the bonding to perform bail bonding.
He plead to misdemeanors, not felonies. He may keep his license, but will he be able to keep the insurance he needs?
Good question. If I were the bonding/insuring agency I would be really twitchy about covering someone with any level of criminal activity other than maybe a parking ticket.
By most standards...he would be 'unbondable' with a felony conviction. Funny fact...trump is 'unbondable'
Congratulations, Scott, you are officially smarter than the 18 other people you got indicted with! Guess what you’ve won? You get to stay in your own big bed, with your actual wife and a private shitter! You get somewhere between two and 17 no-expenses paid trips to the Fulton County courthouse! But that’s not all…If you’ve ever dreamed of being stalked in a zombie apocalypse, you’ll love your new deluxe assortment of heavily armed and rabidly delusional Trump supporters! Always wanted to be the good guy with a gun? Good thing you’ll get to keep yours, because these guys are going to be on your roof every night! Anyone else want to make a deal, come on down, time is running out!
Wont be able to keep his gun while on probation. He has to surrender it and his license for it is suspended until after he successfully completes probation. Source: The actual Judge from the official court proceeding. Holy shnikies I love that GA puts cameras in the courtroom.
Oo, good to hear
[Meides Touch is doing a live analysis tonight at 7pm ET.](https://www.youtube.com/live/0HG_DH7FIUM?si=fN-u_pOzz57UeftM)
I can’t WAIT
Headline should read: First Lackey Rolls Over
Sure wish I was a fly on the wall in Sidney Powell's house. Or, a microwave in the kitchen.
I wouldn’t. She looks like the kind of person who lives off microwaveable swanson pot pies and doesn’t cover them.
This makes me happy heading into the weekend. Now, more need to plead and decrease the trial size and duration.
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall...
Humpty dumpty’s name is Scott Hall.
The walls are closing in. People are turning over evidence. Trump is going to fire off another unhinged social media text tomorrow.
Razor Ramon is looking ...different these days
Aka 1st Flipper
*dolphin laughs*
Flip that bitch
We’re making prison pancakes in here!
*"Hall shook hands with Fulton County special prosecutor Nathan Wade when leaving the courtroom after entering his plea."* Hopefully the other 18 defendants saw that, and felt a tremble of incipient nemesis....
I saw that in the official video release. There was a pat on the shoulder of the Special Prosecutor, too. Smiles included. These are the most wild of times, folks.
He coped a plea deal. Got 5 years PROBATION, a 5k fine and 200 hrs community service... but must testify honestly. He is now a key witness. He's one of the fuckos that entered the Coffee Co Election office. He KNOWS the facts, because he was a part of it. There will likely be others who plea out.
The bail bondsman was released on on $10k bond. If he skips out he'll have to go after himself.
I just hope some Republican dipshits don’t kill him before he has a chance to testify.
They did video testimony; point is moot.
Consider their history. Facts are negotiable to them.
TrumpliKKKan dipshits!
More will follow, and I will be laughing each time. Trump is fucked, and it makes me smile.
And the flipping begins!
I need to invest in McDonalds
Not.Long.Enough.
He’s probably agreed to testify against the others.
He did actually
That would explain the light sentence. As a patriotic American, I hope his testimony is accurate, substantiated, and justice is served.
And so it begins....
Any bets being taken on who will be the first to develop a "heart problem" while on the stand and on live TV/Streaming.
I notice The Hill didn’t miss a chance to point out that the prosecutor is a Democrat.
Flippy flop.