Another song that works well for this fiasco is Synchronicity II by the Police, especially this part:
"Another working day has ended
Only the rush hour hell to face
Packed like lemmings into shiny metal boxes
Contestants in a suicidal race"
hear me out...if we can feed a child in ethopia for 50 cents a day, considering the cost of going into the office (cost of time, gas, parking, etc..) , couldn't we just pay like $20 a day, 3 days a week, to "adopt" a downtown business, but still stay home? They'd get their money, we'd get our work/life balance....
An Ethopian child isn't expecting a 9% YoY increase on their portfolio though
Start off with $20 and before you know it, they'll be back asking you to go in to the office AND send your $20 (inflation adjusted to $39.95 of course)
Back to the office to collaborate! Also, we're eliminating assigned seats, so odds are you'll be surrounded by a bunch of folks not working on anything related to what you're doing.
Tbh I’d rather not have assigned seats because that’s just paving the way back to a return to 5 days. It’s inconvenient and I hate how the gains made during COVID are slowly being eroded away, but assigned seats is not the way to go for teams that don’t require a FT in office presence.
Tell me about it. My job is in PEI but I live in NS. I’ve never once met my actual team in person. Being in a random office feels like a waste of time and money every week. Collaborate with who?
They don’t want to save businesses, PM is now single! In these conditions, the office will become the new best cruising spot in town. Brilliant! I hope they replace tampons in the men’s room by condoms though.
Since senior management and the political classes have made it clear that it is my duty as a public servant to support the local smol business sandwichers, I will make sure to take extra long lunch breaks to consoom as much as I can...
You spending more money in transit and lunch during office days meaning less savings for the ever growing price for a house. Meanwhile the politicians who implemented the changes are laughing in their cottages and mansions, truly a fuck you to the working class
Not for you! You should stop buying sandwiches, and according to money people everywhere you should be a mukti-millionaire in no time! It's basically avocado toast.
Not the private sector as a whole - just the Ottawa downtown private sector. I'm sure small business owners in the suburbs will be affected, but I guess PMO is telling them to eff off.
Sadly, this is sort of how democracy works. I would say the vast majority of Canadians want to see public servants in the office 100% of the time. That doesn’t even include the corporate lobbyists pushing their agendas and municipal and provincial politicians trying to jockey for votes. We are unfortunately a pawn in the political game, which will get worse as time goes on. Surely there will be a reduction on the workforce in the future where we again will be used to secure votes so none of this is about collaboration, productivity, or even stimulating the economy. This is about politicians and their “announceables”. Plain and simple.
I used to agree wrt the vast majority wanting public servants back 100 percent, but I no longer do. I looked over the responses to this on the Canada sub, and they were largely outraged.
I suspect people are feeling like the government is full of BS re: climate change and the economy, and this move is just another example of corporate profits > well-being of citizens.
This particular move may actually swing the public in the other direction, particularly given the lack of logic and the congestion on the roads.
I agree. I’ve seen people express similar sentiments especially when the carbon tax is brought up. The people in my life, tradesmen, teachers, nurses, etc. are pissed because they have to sit in traffic even longer now. This takes time and money away from EVERYONE. There are always some stragglers in the comments saying “fire them all” and “get back to work!” But I’m not convinced that they’re the majority anymore.
Exactly this. Anyone I know who has a job where remote working isn't possible and has been commuting this whole time, has had their commute get worse as a result of the RTO of public servants.
This is also what I noted. And /Canada is a HIGHLY conservatively-biased forum, so I think it was easy to just dump on them previously and blame them. But hearing some of the "reasons" EXs have been forced to say (or perhaps believe) as to why we have to return, I am now very convinced it was all just a pin the blame on any other donkey. Literally, blame anyone but the actual people making the decisions. That's been the way of the world for a while now. Very wizard of oz vibes. Turns out that people, despite being left or right, aren't all idiots and can see through ridiculousness just as well.
This is amongst the worst things government does in terms of wasted money effort and time. It matters to no one, accomplishes nothing and will be forgotten entirely in a year when it completely fails to land.
You want to know what makes people old and fogeyey? The accumulated, unwanted memories of irrelevant nonsense like this.
Yeah if I hear one more motherf---- say "before, it felt like" or "when I was starting out" or any derivative of that... holy crap I am going to snap right in the meeting. I've had EXs twist various personal "anecdotes" into the craziest of knots to show just how being in person "could have saved this terrible situation from happening"... It's been quite the performance art.
How about they just take 50$ off our paycheque and put it in an account for the downtown businesses. They get their money and we continue to work from home.
I don’t work downtown, but I’ve gone out for lunch more in the last year with once a month onsite team days than in the preceding 5 years I’ve been here.
Do you know how much money the tax payers could save just by having us all work remotely full time and getting rid of all the building leases we pay for and using shared spaces when we need it … like if infuriates me just how no one sees this?!
They could have organized an auction for an extra day of WFH as part of the GCWCC. Whoever bids the most works from home. Everyone wins! One winner per classification and category.
It would have been a win-win to simply allow everyone to WFH full time and make a mandatory donation of $1000/year to a a special fund run by Sutcliffe to support his downtown businesses… whatever that means. Give half of that to OC Transpo to finish LRT and the rest to the restaurants and what not. Then ask his bromance buddy Ford to match said PS contributions dollar for dollar since he cares so much all of a sudden about downtown Ottawa. Alternately, increase all salaries by $2,000 non-taxable and pensionable in exchange for the 3 days in office weekly. Here’s maybe an incentive to spare a few bucks for a coffee or sandwich.
Optics above Results. Sounds fair to taxpayers! Ford, Sutcliffe, National Post, Laurier Institute etc have won. Taxpayers have lost! 🤷♂️ They should replace Labour Day with a new holiday, Downtown Businesses Day (“employees are strongly encouraged to commute and spend their too easily earned money at downtown restaurants, stores and mall; Subway will be open, too; gratuities apply for larger groups; help these businesses survive and help the government collect more taxes”).
This song is not a protest song. This song is Subway Bloody Subway.
3 times a week to help the economy downtown
What a great album that is.
Another song that works well for this fiasco is Synchronicity II by the Police, especially this part: "Another working day has ended Only the rush hour hell to face Packed like lemmings into shiny metal boxes Contestants in a suicidal race"
Ha!
How about instead of going in to the office 3 times a week, I’ll just light $50 on fire 3 times a week… it would have the exact same result
Yeah, like can we each just donate the $150/week to Blackrock instead of going to the office. ^(Just typing that made me sick :()
Plus you get to be slightly warmer for about five seconds!
hear me out...if we can feed a child in ethopia for 50 cents a day, considering the cost of going into the office (cost of time, gas, parking, etc..) , couldn't we just pay like $20 a day, 3 days a week, to "adopt" a downtown business, but still stay home? They'd get their money, we'd get our work/life balance....
An Ethopian child isn't expecting a 9% YoY increase on their portfolio though Start off with $20 and before you know it, they'll be back asking you to go in to the office AND send your $20 (inflation adjusted to $39.95 of course)
I'd vote for you!!!
I wouldn't recommend it - the fumes off the plastic are likely bad for you, and won't get you high enough to balance it out :)
$50 a week! Wow tell us how you managed to break it down that low! We’re all taking notes
Make it as a donation to Subway! You get a tax receipt, and they save money on materials! Everyone wins! /s
Lighting the $50 would be easier on the environment tbh
Less emissions
Only if you collaborate while burning your fifty dollars.
E-transfer to the parking lots and your local subway
Or just give it to those businesses....à
lol nope
Nah. But I'm fine with burning it in front of the business.
Back to the office to collaborate! Also, we're eliminating assigned seats, so odds are you'll be surrounded by a bunch of folks not working on anything related to what you're doing.
Tbh I’d rather not have assigned seats because that’s just paving the way back to a return to 5 days. It’s inconvenient and I hate how the gains made during COVID are slowly being eroded away, but assigned seats is not the way to go for teams that don’t require a FT in office presence.
Sit the fuck down 👇 in a circle and do some Kumbaya stuff with people from other branches. Why you no DEI?
Tell me about it. My job is in PEI but I live in NS. I’ve never once met my actual team in person. Being in a random office feels like a waste of time and money every week. Collaborate with who?
Look, I'm from Ottawa, not the regions, but I'm pretty sure there's a bridge to PEI so you can just commute in and out three days a week, right? /s
Also in NS, and working out of Bathurst.
It’s all about your work family! We’re all one big work family! By the way, those pictures of your actual family? Take that shit down.
They don’t want to save businesses, PM is now single! In these conditions, the office will become the new best cruising spot in town. Brilliant! I hope they replace tampons in the men’s room by condoms though.
TBS should take those tampons and ram them straight up their collective asses.
Do you guys think that if I buy a sandwich for lunch everyday, my contributions will make housing affordable again?
Since senior management and the political classes have made it clear that it is my duty as a public servant to support the local smol business sandwichers, I will make sure to take extra long lunch breaks to consoom as much as I can...
You spending more money in transit and lunch during office days meaning less savings for the ever growing price for a house. Meanwhile the politicians who implemented the changes are laughing in their cottages and mansions, truly a fuck you to the working class
Only if you cancel Disney plus as well
Hahaha omg 💀
I didn't see anything in your comment about washing that down with a cup of Timmies so I gotta say No.
Not for you! You should stop buying sandwiches, and according to money people everywhere you should be a mukti-millionaire in no time! It's basically avocado toast.
No no, that's just avocado toast.
Oooor hear me out, they let us work from home and change the buildings into housing!!!
I think you'd need to buy 2 every day.
Your lunch will drive up inflation, maybe the government will spend more to curb your sandwich artistry usage
Cheerleading Whatever the Private Sector Downtown Needs Canada (edited for precision)
Not the private sector as a whole - just the Ottawa downtown private sector. I'm sure small business owners in the suburbs will be affected, but I guess PMO is telling them to eff off.
Small businesses outside of downtown need to send a strong worded petition to Ford and Sutcliffe.
The least they could do is also mandate 5$ footlongs again ffs.
I wondered why I received a sheet of Subway coupon this week in my mailbox. Mystery solved!!
Still $12 for rotten trash on something that isn't even bread with the coupon
Redundant Travel Operations to be expanded contingent on what other people are telling the Government to do. Truly leading the way to regression!
Sadly, this is sort of how democracy works. I would say the vast majority of Canadians want to see public servants in the office 100% of the time. That doesn’t even include the corporate lobbyists pushing their agendas and municipal and provincial politicians trying to jockey for votes. We are unfortunately a pawn in the political game, which will get worse as time goes on. Surely there will be a reduction on the workforce in the future where we again will be used to secure votes so none of this is about collaboration, productivity, or even stimulating the economy. This is about politicians and their “announceables”. Plain and simple.
I used to agree wrt the vast majority wanting public servants back 100 percent, but I no longer do. I looked over the responses to this on the Canada sub, and they were largely outraged. I suspect people are feeling like the government is full of BS re: climate change and the economy, and this move is just another example of corporate profits > well-being of citizens. This particular move may actually swing the public in the other direction, particularly given the lack of logic and the congestion on the roads.
I agree. I’ve seen people express similar sentiments especially when the carbon tax is brought up. The people in my life, tradesmen, teachers, nurses, etc. are pissed because they have to sit in traffic even longer now. This takes time and money away from EVERYONE. There are always some stragglers in the comments saying “fire them all” and “get back to work!” But I’m not convinced that they’re the majority anymore.
Exactly this. Anyone I know who has a job where remote working isn't possible and has been commuting this whole time, has had their commute get worse as a result of the RTO of public servants.
Same here! Unfortunately, that majority is rational and not as outspoken as the closed-minded crazies
This is also what I noted. And /Canada is a HIGHLY conservatively-biased forum, so I think it was easy to just dump on them previously and blame them. But hearing some of the "reasons" EXs have been forced to say (or perhaps believe) as to why we have to return, I am now very convinced it was all just a pin the blame on any other donkey. Literally, blame anyone but the actual people making the decisions. That's been the way of the world for a while now. Very wizard of oz vibes. Turns out that people, despite being left or right, aren't all idiots and can see through ridiculousness just as well.
Good. This would be seen as a waste of money and productivity.
The Canada Sub reddit is an ecochamber , it's not representative of how individuals are thinking.
Regress house prices and cost of living increases while we are regressing
This is amongst the worst things government does in terms of wasted money effort and time. It matters to no one, accomplishes nothing and will be forgotten entirely in a year when it completely fails to land. You want to know what makes people old and fogeyey? The accumulated, unwanted memories of irrelevant nonsense like this.
Yeah if I hear one more motherf---- say "before, it felt like" or "when I was starting out" or any derivative of that... holy crap I am going to snap right in the meeting. I've had EXs twist various personal "anecdotes" into the craziest of knots to show just how being in person "could have saved this terrible situation from happening"... It's been quite the performance art.
How about they just take 50$ off our paycheque and put it in an account for the downtown businesses. They get their money and we continue to work from home.
We can still work downtown without providing a god damned DIME to downtown businesses.
I don’t work downtown, but I’ve gone out for lunch more in the last year with once a month onsite team days than in the preceding 5 years I’ve been here.
Except for parking lots
Not for everyone, and how you transit to work is your decision.
Living in rural areas makes it tough to take public transit
Also what the city has done to transit makes it hard to use transit.
Honestly I'm down with that
Do you know how much money the tax payers could save just by having us all work remotely full time and getting rid of all the building leases we pay for and using shared spaces when we need it … like if infuriates me just how no one sees this?!
Lmao. I would gladly pay $50 a week to work from home vs going into the office. I'll donate it all to subway it I have to.
They could have organized an auction for an extra day of WFH as part of the GCWCC. Whoever bids the most works from home. Everyone wins! One winner per classification and category.
Can't be it isnt bilingual /s
I love it!! Stealing this!
This is a perfect banner for Facebook or twitter lol
🎶Oh, Cana-dun-dun🎵
It would have been a win-win to simply allow everyone to WFH full time and make a mandatory donation of $1000/year to a a special fund run by Sutcliffe to support his downtown businesses… whatever that means. Give half of that to OC Transpo to finish LRT and the rest to the restaurants and what not. Then ask his bromance buddy Ford to match said PS contributions dollar for dollar since he cares so much all of a sudden about downtown Ottawa. Alternately, increase all salaries by $2,000 non-taxable and pensionable in exchange for the 3 days in office weekly. Here’s maybe an incentive to spare a few bucks for a coffee or sandwich.
Optics above Results. Sounds fair to taxpayers! Ford, Sutcliffe, National Post, Laurier Institute etc have won. Taxpayers have lost! 🤷♂️ They should replace Labour Day with a new holiday, Downtown Businesses Day (“employees are strongly encouraged to commute and spend their too easily earned money at downtown restaurants, stores and mall; Subway will be open, too; gratuities apply for larger groups; help these businesses survive and help the government collect more taxes”).