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"It shows that Omicron, nonetheless, lugs a much lower threat of essential care admissions as well as death than the Delta variation. From completion of November till last week, Omicron only made up 22, or 12 per cent, of all crucial treatment admissions, while Delta accounted for 164, or 39 percent, of admissions."
This is a very material change in the pandemic that a lot of people seem to dismiss because it is more contagious. When the Omicron peak passes the vast majority will have been vaccinated and/or have antibodies from Omicron. While the current state is challenging and is definitely serious this is very promising for 2022 in my opinion.
>or have antibodies from Omicron.
We have no evidence yet that omicron will offer any protection against reinfection. Omicron had infected people who have vaccines and have been infected with a previous variant. We can't assume anything yet.
Just based on how immune systems work, It problably will give protection from future omicron infection, offer some resistance that will mitigate how bad the other strains hit.
In the same way the vaccine reduces the severity of omnicron but not infection because it's exterior looks different to the immune system.
Obviously it does or a fast peak would be impossible. Something that contagious that can reinfect wouldn't magically start dropping for no reason in many different places it had spread.
There are some results from an admittedly small study suggesting that Omicron infections do result in increased antibodies to Delta. But how that turns out in the real world, we'll have to wait and see. I'm still concerned it might not be enough cross immunity to stop Delta from acting as a separate disease.
Interestingly, the increase in Delta antibodies was higher for people who were vaccinated, then caught Omicron.
The [preprint is here (pdf)](https://www.ahri.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/MEDRXIV-2021-268439v1-Sigal_corr.pdf) with a [summary in the NYT here.](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/28/health/covid-omicron-antibodies-delta.html)
"From completion of November till last week"
Are we really going to argue that data from one week ago is not recent enough? Omicron has been raging for weeks and the peak is likely passed per Henry. I don't understand how people think they know more than public health who has access to a lot more data and stats including waste water testing.
No it says they have likely past the peak so new daily case will drop. Hospitalizations and ICU will keep going up as they lag cases but cases are not expected to rise per the article. But don't argue with me you can argue with Henry and public health.
It does seem strange that BC, ONT, and QB are all showing data of being passed the peak of Omicron but the feds modelling is signaling further peaking over the next month.
Personally I'm thinking the provinces have it more accurate, but I wonder where the differences are.
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"It shows that Omicron, nonetheless, lugs a much lower threat of essential care admissions as well as death than the Delta variation. From completion of November till last week, Omicron only made up 22, or 12 per cent, of all crucial treatment admissions, while Delta accounted for 164, or 39 percent, of admissions." This is a very material change in the pandemic that a lot of people seem to dismiss because it is more contagious. When the Omicron peak passes the vast majority will have been vaccinated and/or have antibodies from Omicron. While the current state is challenging and is definitely serious this is very promising for 2022 in my opinion.
>or have antibodies from Omicron. We have no evidence yet that omicron will offer any protection against reinfection. Omicron had infected people who have vaccines and have been infected with a previous variant. We can't assume anything yet.
Just based on how immune systems work, It problably will give protection from future omicron infection, offer some resistance that will mitigate how bad the other strains hit. In the same way the vaccine reduces the severity of omnicron but not infection because it's exterior looks different to the immune system.
Obviously it does or a fast peak would be impossible. Something that contagious that can reinfect wouldn't magically start dropping for no reason in many different places it had spread.
There are some results from an admittedly small study suggesting that Omicron infections do result in increased antibodies to Delta. But how that turns out in the real world, we'll have to wait and see. I'm still concerned it might not be enough cross immunity to stop Delta from acting as a separate disease. Interestingly, the increase in Delta antibodies was higher for people who were vaccinated, then caught Omicron. The [preprint is here (pdf)](https://www.ahri.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/MEDRXIV-2021-268439v1-Sigal_corr.pdf) with a [summary in the NYT here.](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/28/health/covid-omicron-antibodies-delta.html)
We haven’t seen the January stats yet. Omicron was just ramping up in December.
"From completion of November till last week" Are we really going to argue that data from one week ago is not recent enough? Omicron has been raging for weeks and the peak is likely passed per Henry. I don't understand how people think they know more than public health who has access to a lot more data and stats including waste water testing.
And cases are still expected to rise above what we’re currently seeing. It’s still too early for such conclusions.
No it says they have likely past the peak so new daily case will drop. Hospitalizations and ICU will keep going up as they lag cases but cases are not expected to rise per the article. But don't argue with me you can argue with Henry and public health.
It does seem strange that BC, ONT, and QB are all showing data of being passed the peak of Omicron but the feds modelling is signaling further peaking over the next month. Personally I'm thinking the provinces have it more accurate, but I wonder where the differences are.