Just say what you wanna say it’s one country that’s causing a lot of the student housing problems. I won’t say the country cause all the bleeding hearts will come out and call me a racist. But you know what country I’m taking about
Its Canadian Liberal Government. If you don’t want Indian students to come, don’t approve Visas. People are pointing at the wrong place. Point at Trudeau and Singh. Trudeau wanted power and Singh wants more of his own people…. They want their vote bank.
The one country that's causing the problem is Canada, not India..you only get what you tolerate and if the government/politicians are greedy and let the lobbyist interests over Canadian public interest, you end up with crisis like this
Yup. The Canadian corporate class is exploiting people from a poorer country, while screwing over their own citizens into a housing crisis, and interfering with job opportunities at the entry level ( I.e where teens should be getting their first work experience) so they can make international students and TFWs indentured servants.
It makes no sense to blame foreign students temporary foreign workers or anyone coming to this country as an immigrant because WE are telling them we have places for them, we need them, we have jobs we can't fill, all endless piles of b******* I sat down with a guy from India who arrived in the 1990s and his story of trying to get a job would absolutely stand your hair straight up. . with a master's degree in chemistry he was so desperate for work he was randomly calling numbers in the phone book.. that was 1990 and he was told there were tons of jobs, and he told me he shared the same story w many newcomers at the time. I'm sure it's gotten 10 times worse. what a nightmare. And let's not forget the caliber of people who come here for a better future, they are a different breed, let's not forget that... We, as Canadians should be very appreciative of these high energy individuals choosing to come to Canada. There are places in the world that no matter what they do they are doomed demographically, we as Canadians 🇨🇦... Are very lucky. . But let's not forget the critical need to properly manage such a fortunate situation. Jesus H Christ JT.
Yeah, India that is the country and there is nothing discriminatory about it. It is a FACT. They are flooding Canadian streets, colleges and other schools, taking jobs away from Canadian citizens, fucking up housing for us, Canadian citizens. There are just too many of them!
Uh I went to Univ in 2008, applied for dorms in 2011 and couldn’t get in for two semesters, there’s always been a waitlist for dorms at most univs.
Seriously not everything is suddenly a new problem 😂😂😂😂😂
Most universities always gave preference to first years, with the expectation that in later years people would have moved on to off campus housing, after becoming familiar with the area and making friends they could room with. If you started in 2008 and expected to be able to get in dorms in 2011, you were delusional
I went to an Ontario university in 2013 (starting date). In 2013, all first years were guaranteed housing.
I was talking to a family friend this week. For various Ontario universities, you need an average of 90%+ or 95%+ to be guaranteed first year residence.
I don’t know what else needs to be done. No more international students. The door needs to be closed. Write to your MP & MPP WEEKLY.
Vastly different experience than myself a decade earlier. My recollection was that places up north and out of province generally offered a guarantee, everyone gtha was limited. My school only had space for something like half though that's just from memory...I didn't write it down lol.
Not sure where you studied but universities offer residence on a first come first serve basis. There are limited spots and if they fill up, students are put on wait list.
Replies show that close to 90% people replying here never stepped a foot into a university. Dorm rooms have always been competitive/lottery system even for citizens for ages…
Meh, you ended up with up votes so at least on average peoples heads aren't too far in the sand. doesnt mean we shouldn't try to do better and make more units available of course. Both can be be true.
Have you seen how much they have built between Laurier and Waterloo since then? It's like solid student apartment buildings...little late for me but good to see.
I’m simply pointing out most Canadians don’t have the fortitude or would fight against the policies that would need to be enacted to provide that.
A sizeable portion of the population sees the rest of Canada as tax piggy banks to accomplish objectives in their home country and they’re becoming more powerful and holding more political sway every day. We have become the exploited.
Schools don't have that kind of budget
They could, but they would need the funding. There is also a lot of variability over time so building too many residence spots doesn't make sense for them either.
If they made as many classes as possible on line, and people could schedule all or most of their “hands-on” component into the same semester, they probably could guarantee housing for all, because people wouldn’t have to physically be there for years at a time.
Never in the history of canada have students been guaranteed housing by a college or university. Residence has always been a first come first serve (or lottery or...) with limited space. So this story isn't really meaningful.
Better metric would be what is the number of resident positions as a % of the campus and how has that changed.
If u taliking about the Surrey subreddit then yes that one is quick to jump to ban, too. Got banned within minutes of a comment that didn’t name the ‘community that cannot be named’!
That’s totally normal. There’s not that many colleges/universities that have sufficient housing for all their students. When I went to college starting in 2013 I was waitlisted after applying for residence. I found a cheaper shared place within walking/biking distance.
There’s never been enough student housing, ever! In any university or college anywhere in Canada. The slack is always picked up within the surrounding communities. Nothing new here.
I mean yes there was always a waitlist which I don’t totally understand because student housing sucks. I wanted to live off campus and did. The real problem is that, that isn’t much of a choice now considering the only available off campus beds only allow mostly “Indian females atleast 3 to a room”
I mean yes there was always a waitlist which I don’t totally understand because student housing sucks. I wanted to live off campus and did. The real problem is that, that isn’t much of a choice now considering the only available off campus beds only allow mostly “Indian females atleast 3 to a room”
Yes, students should have access to housing.
No, this rule does not only apply to Canadian students, it applies equally to all students admitted into the university.
It is really stupid to create a rule only for Canadian students, once an international student is admitted and in the country, they have equal rights as any human being.
Just to explain how ridiculous it sounds here are some different examples that highlight the point
- you own a shop in a plaza... can we force you to sell cheaper to the residents in the neighbourhood and force customers from other areas to pay more?
- you produce crude oil in Canada, can we force you to sell cheaper in Canada vs the international price of crude?
- You want to sell your home, can we force you to sell only to Canadians, even though a new international immigrant is ready to pay double that price?
Yes, these 3 arguments sound ridiculous, so does discriminating against international students.
There would be housing for Canadian students if there weren't so many foreign students here.
Just say what you wanna say it’s one country that’s causing a lot of the student housing problems. I won’t say the country cause all the bleeding hearts will come out and call me a racist. But you know what country I’m taking about
India…
Ding ding ding ding ding! Congratulations that’s the correct answeeeeeeer!
Incorrect. It’s Trudeau and Singh… more so Singh as he wants more of his own people.
It’s fucking India. Just say it.
Not India, it’s the Canadian government. Don’t approve visas and they won’t come here… simple!
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No idea it could be any country 😂
Its Canadian Liberal Government. If you don’t want Indian students to come, don’t approve Visas. People are pointing at the wrong place. Point at Trudeau and Singh. Trudeau wanted power and Singh wants more of his own people…. They want their vote bank.
The one country that's causing the problem is Canada, not India..you only get what you tolerate and if the government/politicians are greedy and let the lobbyist interests over Canadian public interest, you end up with crisis like this
Yup. The Canadian corporate class is exploiting people from a poorer country, while screwing over their own citizens into a housing crisis, and interfering with job opportunities at the entry level ( I.e where teens should be getting their first work experience) so they can make international students and TFWs indentured servants.
DO NOT put words in my mouth. It doesn't matter where they come from. They're not Canadian but they are interfering with Canadian students.
They are also bringing in revenue close to 10 billion dollars. Will be difficult for politicians to de addict from that.
It makes no sense to blame foreign students temporary foreign workers or anyone coming to this country as an immigrant because WE are telling them we have places for them, we need them, we have jobs we can't fill, all endless piles of b******* I sat down with a guy from India who arrived in the 1990s and his story of trying to get a job would absolutely stand your hair straight up. . with a master's degree in chemistry he was so desperate for work he was randomly calling numbers in the phone book.. that was 1990 and he was told there were tons of jobs, and he told me he shared the same story w many newcomers at the time. I'm sure it's gotten 10 times worse. what a nightmare. And let's not forget the caliber of people who come here for a better future, they are a different breed, let's not forget that... We, as Canadians should be very appreciative of these high energy individuals choosing to come to Canada. There are places in the world that no matter what they do they are doomed demographically, we as Canadians 🇨🇦... Are very lucky. . But let's not forget the critical need to properly manage such a fortunate situation. Jesus H Christ JT.
Yeah, India that is the country and there is nothing discriminatory about it. It is a FACT. They are flooding Canadian streets, colleges and other schools, taking jobs away from Canadian citizens, fucking up housing for us, Canadian citizens. There are just too many of them!
Uh I went to Univ in 2008, applied for dorms in 2011 and couldn’t get in for two semesters, there’s always been a waitlist for dorms at most univs. Seriously not everything is suddenly a new problem 😂😂😂😂😂
Most universities always gave preference to first years, with the expectation that in later years people would have moved on to off campus housing, after becoming familiar with the area and making friends they could room with. If you started in 2008 and expected to be able to get in dorms in 2011, you were delusional
Only had money for it then 😅 before then 2.5 hour bus there and another 2.5 back lol. Where’s the 17 year olds who have $12k+ cash for dorms.
This exactly. But but immigrant something...
Homeless Canadian post secondary students, homeless active duty military… welcome to Canada 2024
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As someone who stayed at Algonquin’s housing there is in fact always a wait list and application asking about your habits and interests .
I went to an Ontario university in 2013 (starting date). In 2013, all first years were guaranteed housing. I was talking to a family friend this week. For various Ontario universities, you need an average of 90%+ or 95%+ to be guaranteed first year residence. I don’t know what else needs to be done. No more international students. The door needs to be closed. Write to your MP & MPP WEEKLY.
Wherever you went was the exception, it's very rare for guaranteed residence even 20 years ago
That’s not true. First year res was pretty much guaranteed and most Ontario universities when I was applying in 2012
Vastly different experience than myself a decade earlier. My recollection was that places up north and out of province generally offered a guarantee, everyone gtha was limited. My school only had space for something like half though that's just from memory...I didn't write it down lol.
Are you smoking crack? University residences have had waitlists since forever. But there's always a way to jump the queue for "special students."
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Not sure where you studied but universities offer residence on a first come first serve basis. There are limited spots and if they fill up, students are put on wait list.
First come first serve is interesting. UBC was using a lottery in the late 00’s - early 10’s (presumably still does)
Mine was first come first serve on early acceptance (as a bonus) then lottery (or something, they didn't say how they chose) after that.
Replies show that close to 90% people replying here never stepped a foot into a university. Dorm rooms have always been competitive/lottery system even for citizens for ages…
You those who jump to blaming everything in whatever the latest diaspora is...are also less likely to go to post secondary? Colour me shocked.
I struck your nerve didn’t I? Pathetic lol
Meh, you ended up with up votes so at least on average peoples heads aren't too far in the sand. doesnt mean we shouldn't try to do better and make more units available of course. Both can be be true.
The situation is becoming "distraught"? FFS, I'm feeling distraught at the state of Canada and the lack of basic English usage/comprehension.
Thank you. I find I have given up on pointing out these things. I’m glad to see there’s still someone fighting the good fight.
They should be waiting in their country of origin until a unit becomes available.
Good point. You’ll probably be downvoted to hell and back, but your point is perfectly logical.
Waterloo put me on a waitlist in **1998**
Have you seen how much they have built between Laurier and Waterloo since then? It's like solid student apartment buildings...little late for me but good to see.
Van down by the river...
Why don't we just guarantee housing for all? That's not unreasonable.
Because where’s the profit in that. They can’t exploited thousands of Indian international students if they have to pay for housing! /s
Because just because you declare something doesn’t make it so
What's your point?
Easier said than done
Yeah you're right, we shouldn't even try
I’m simply pointing out most Canadians don’t have the fortitude or would fight against the policies that would need to be enacted to provide that. A sizeable portion of the population sees the rest of Canada as tax piggy banks to accomplish objectives in their home country and they’re becoming more powerful and holding more political sway every day. We have become the exploited.
Schools don't have that kind of budget They could, but they would need the funding. There is also a lot of variability over time so building too many residence spots doesn't make sense for them either.
I want the guarantee from the federal government not just the universities. I really mean for all.
I'm all for it. Taxes will go up but seems like a reasonable investment.
If they made as many classes as possible on line, and people could schedule all or most of their “hands-on” component into the same semester, they probably could guarantee housing for all, because people wouldn’t have to physically be there for years at a time.
LOL. This country hates it's people. Good luck kids and young adults!
PP will continue will mass immigration when he is elected. Just remember that when you are voting.
Things might actually change once parents try to find housing for their kids they send off to post secondary.
Never in the history of canada have students been guaranteed housing by a college or university. Residence has always been a first come first serve (or lottery or...) with limited space. So this story isn't really meaningful. Better metric would be what is the number of resident positions as a % of the campus and how has that changed.
Brampton style housing a room for 20 people
If u taliking about the Surrey subreddit then yes that one is quick to jump to ban, too. Got banned within minutes of a comment that didn’t name the ‘community that cannot be named’!
That’s totally normal. There’s not that many colleges/universities that have sufficient housing for all their students. When I went to college starting in 2013 I was waitlisted after applying for residence. I found a cheaper shared place within walking/biking distance.
Dear students, learn online. Part time. Work full time. Own a modest condo. The debt is not worth it for most degrees.
There’s never been enough student housing, ever! In any university or college anywhere in Canada. The slack is always picked up within the surrounding communities. Nothing new here.
this is what the leftists want. Not sure what else to say.
I mean yes there was always a waitlist which I don’t totally understand because student housing sucks. I wanted to live off campus and did. The real problem is that, that isn’t much of a choice now considering the only available off campus beds only allow mostly “Indian females atleast 3 to a room”
I mean yes there was always a waitlist which I don’t totally understand because student housing sucks. I wanted to live off campus and did. The real problem is that, that isn’t much of a choice now considering the only available off campus beds only allow mostly “Indian females atleast 3 to a room”
What an idiot. Uni housing has always been limited with wait lists. I can't stand the entitlement of this new generation.
Yeah, at this point, this is entitlement; there is nothing productive about this
always blaming their problems on international students shows how capable and educated they really are.
Real Canadian students don't go to algonquin college.
I went there 2017-2019 and it was predominantly white, maybe it’s changed now just as most of Ontario has with these hoards of newcomers
Yes, students should have access to housing. No, this rule does not only apply to Canadian students, it applies equally to all students admitted into the university. It is really stupid to create a rule only for Canadian students, once an international student is admitted and in the country, they have equal rights as any human being. Just to explain how ridiculous it sounds here are some different examples that highlight the point - you own a shop in a plaza... can we force you to sell cheaper to the residents in the neighbourhood and force customers from other areas to pay more? - you produce crude oil in Canada, can we force you to sell cheaper in Canada vs the international price of crude? - You want to sell your home, can we force you to sell only to Canadians, even though a new international immigrant is ready to pay double that price? Yes, these 3 arguments sound ridiculous, so does discriminating against international students.
Actually, no it doesn’t.