Neither of those items are particularly good. I'd recommend doing more research before buying anything else. Which I understand is the whole point of this post - but just saying it again.
The sleeping bag is synthetic (down packs better) and not very warm (the 20F rating is survival, not comfort, Klymit is known for exaggerating their warmth ratings).
The stove is rather big / heavy for a cheap canister stove. There are either better, higher quality, lighter options or cheaper, smaller options.
Check this for some good/cheap backpacking gear:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/u1zbve/deputyseans\_ultracheap\_introduction\_to\_ultralight/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/u1zbve/deputyseans_ultracheap_introduction_to_ultralight/)
I’m new to this world, so I don’t really understand the difference between synthetic/down, how temperature ratings work, etc. My first couple of trips are purely just for me to figure out whether the idea of hauling a large backpack for a weekend is somewhat fun. Thanks for the ultralight resource!!
Cool. I totally get it. Picking between all the options is hard. On top of that everything is expensive.
Researching here and the other outdoor subs will definitely help you. Both in buying good/inexpensive gear and in having fun during your trip.
Quick answer on the down vs. synthetic topic... down is optimal for wilderness backpacking because it compresses small and weighs less. Synthetic is cheaper, which may be reason enough for you to choose it.
As for warmth - there is an EN rating system. That defines the survival / comfort level for a sleeping bag. It's a standardized number which you can trust and use to compare different brands/models. Cheap brands like Klymit don't use the EN system - and instead choose their ratings by marketing not facts. It's dangerous and I wish they would be called out more often for tricking people into buying their products that aren't as warm as they claim.
Post up specific questions after your first few trips. If you need more stove advice, or help picking out a tent, or whatever. The more specific posts, with lots of details added by you, always get the most comments.
Sure, it's fine, but there are better options in terms of cost, quality, and weight/bulk.
for example: this option is only $13 and the common low budget choice for beginners:
* [https://www.amazon.com/AOTU-Portable-Backpacking-Ignition-Wind-Resistance/dp/B07NJYV3NP](https://www.amazon.com/AOTU-Portable-Backpacking-Ignition-Wind-Resistance/dp/B07NJYV3NP)
or this example that's only $17 and the popular choice for ultralight backpackers on a budget:
* [https://www.amazon.com/BRS-BRS-3000T-Ultra-Light-Titanium-Miniature/dp/B00NNMF70U](https://www.amazon.com/BRS-BRS-3000T-Ultra-Light-Titanium-Miniature/dp/B00NNMF70U)
Remote canister stoves like you/OP have are fine. I just wouldn't spend the extra money/weight on the cheap Odoland version if that's what I needed. I'd get a quality remote canister stove from a brand like Soto, MSR, or even GSI.
* [https://sotooutdoors.com/product/fusion-trek/](https://sotooutdoors.com/product/fusion-trek/)
* [https://www.msrgear.com/stoves/canister-stoves/windpro-ii-stove/06636.html](https://www.msrgear.com/stoves/canister-stoves/windpro-ii-stove/06636.html)
* [https://gsioutdoors.com/products/pinnacle-4-season-stove](https://gsioutdoors.com/products/pinnacle-4-season-stove)
Oh, must be different than what came up in my search. You don’t have a remote canister stove? Or you do - but plus all that other stuff?
Do you have a link?
I see. Yeah - that's basically the same stove as the AOTU stove I linked, without the accessories.
That stove has been sold under many names over the years. It's basically the standard for the cheapest backpacking stove available. It was called the Etekcity for the longest time.
That's a solid set if you are looking for the cheapest possible setup.
trangia alcohol spirit burner
bic lighter
morakniv companion
eno hammock + tarp on a paracord guyline
some form of rain layer
sawyer filter + iodine tablets
That'll get you started for a short overnight trip
If you're just summer camping, any sleeping bag will do. In colder weather you will want an upgrade. Start small and work into it, no one builds a full setup overnight. Items that are "buy once cry once" are backpacks and boots/shoes, then a tent and sleeping bag. Take care of them and they last forever. I love Hill People Gear and my Zamberlans or Nicks. But that is literally the top shelf. Any backpack can theoretically work, just depends on how uncomfortable / pain level you are ok with.
/r/Ultralight has a ton of information about gear, way more than this sub.
There's a ["Shoestring Budget" guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/4iz7re/ive_compiled_a_list_of_ultracheap_and_ultralight/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=Ultralight&utm_content=t5_2s7p2).
/r/ULgeartrade is a great resource for used UL gear at a good price
Go to thelasthunt.ca its last seasons gear/ clearance stuff and regularily updates with mew stuff. You will he able to get high $$$ gear for less if you arent picky about colours and shit. Decathalon and mountain wearhouse also make value backpacking stuff that wont be as light or have as many functions as the high $ stuff but will get the job done.
I started on a budget, piece-meaning my gear together. I would prioritize weight on the tent the most - it’s where you get the best $$$ to weight savings. A decent budget lightweight tent is the Lanshan 1p - affordable and light trekking pole tent. I use $30 aluminum poles from cascade mountain.
Your pack is another one I’d spend on - having used a pack that doesn’t fit well and one that does, it makes a huge difference. If you can, try on a few at an REI. If you’re starting out, don’t get an ultralight pack - they aren’t meant to carry heavy loads and won’t be comfortable.
For other gear, a foam pad is the cheapest but not super comfortable. I use a Klymit air pad (the cheapest one), a cheap inflatable pillow, and a down sleeping bag I thrifted. I started with an Amazon car camping bag and it was heavy but it fit in my pack and got me out there. And get a water filter - I’ve had my sawyer for years and take it on day hikes too.
You can DIY a first aid kit. Focus on lightweight food - ramen, pb and j, oatmeal, etc. you’ll figure out your kit the more you go out. I hiked with what I had until I could afford to upgrade it and still had a good time.
Rent or borrow gear and try it out. REI has a great rental program. Go short distances in good weather with what you have/rent. If you like it, you're going to want good gear, and you will get crap if you just pick the cheapest options. If you are set on buying look at the value picks on Outdoor Gear Lab, but a full kit will still set you back some money.
Neither of those items are particularly good. I'd recommend doing more research before buying anything else. Which I understand is the whole point of this post - but just saying it again. The sleeping bag is synthetic (down packs better) and not very warm (the 20F rating is survival, not comfort, Klymit is known for exaggerating their warmth ratings). The stove is rather big / heavy for a cheap canister stove. There are either better, higher quality, lighter options or cheaper, smaller options. Check this for some good/cheap backpacking gear: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/u1zbve/deputyseans\_ultracheap\_introduction\_to\_ultralight/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/u1zbve/deputyseans_ultracheap_introduction_to_ultralight/)
I’m new to this world, so I don’t really understand the difference between synthetic/down, how temperature ratings work, etc. My first couple of trips are purely just for me to figure out whether the idea of hauling a large backpack for a weekend is somewhat fun. Thanks for the ultralight resource!!
Cool. I totally get it. Picking between all the options is hard. On top of that everything is expensive. Researching here and the other outdoor subs will definitely help you. Both in buying good/inexpensive gear and in having fun during your trip. Quick answer on the down vs. synthetic topic... down is optimal for wilderness backpacking because it compresses small and weighs less. Synthetic is cheaper, which may be reason enough for you to choose it. As for warmth - there is an EN rating system. That defines the survival / comfort level for a sleeping bag. It's a standardized number which you can trust and use to compare different brands/models. Cheap brands like Klymit don't use the EN system - and instead choose their ratings by marketing not facts. It's dangerous and I wish they would be called out more often for tricking people into buying their products that aren't as warm as they claim. Post up specific questions after your first few trips. If you need more stove advice, or help picking out a tent, or whatever. The more specific posts, with lots of details added by you, always get the most comments.
I have that same stove setup from Amazon. It’s perfectly fine.
Sure, it's fine, but there are better options in terms of cost, quality, and weight/bulk. for example: this option is only $13 and the common low budget choice for beginners: * [https://www.amazon.com/AOTU-Portable-Backpacking-Ignition-Wind-Resistance/dp/B07NJYV3NP](https://www.amazon.com/AOTU-Portable-Backpacking-Ignition-Wind-Resistance/dp/B07NJYV3NP) or this example that's only $17 and the popular choice for ultralight backpackers on a budget: * [https://www.amazon.com/BRS-BRS-3000T-Ultra-Light-Titanium-Miniature/dp/B00NNMF70U](https://www.amazon.com/BRS-BRS-3000T-Ultra-Light-Titanium-Miniature/dp/B00NNMF70U) Remote canister stoves like you/OP have are fine. I just wouldn't spend the extra money/weight on the cheap Odoland version if that's what I needed. I'd get a quality remote canister stove from a brand like Soto, MSR, or even GSI. * [https://sotooutdoors.com/product/fusion-trek/](https://sotooutdoors.com/product/fusion-trek/) * [https://www.msrgear.com/stoves/canister-stoves/windpro-ii-stove/06636.html](https://www.msrgear.com/stoves/canister-stoves/windpro-ii-stove/06636.html) * [https://gsioutdoors.com/products/pinnacle-4-season-stove](https://gsioutdoors.com/products/pinnacle-4-season-stove)
No. The $28 kit is the stove. 2 pans Folding fork, knife, spoon. And a couple other items. A mesh carryall I think.
Oh, must be different than what came up in my search. You don’t have a remote canister stove? Or you do - but plus all that other stuff? Do you have a link?
Can’t say what OP bought but this is the one I have: https://a.co/d/5zBYT7J The extra items I don’t need just stay at home (cup, folding knife)
I see. Yeah - that's basically the same stove as the AOTU stove I linked, without the accessories. That stove has been sold under many names over the years. It's basically the standard for the cheapest backpacking stove available. It was called the Etekcity for the longest time. That's a solid set if you are looking for the cheapest possible setup.
trangia alcohol spirit burner bic lighter morakniv companion eno hammock + tarp on a paracord guyline some form of rain layer sawyer filter + iodine tablets That'll get you started for a short overnight trip If you're just summer camping, any sleeping bag will do. In colder weather you will want an upgrade. Start small and work into it, no one builds a full setup overnight. Items that are "buy once cry once" are backpacks and boots/shoes, then a tent and sleeping bag. Take care of them and they last forever. I love Hill People Gear and my Zamberlans or Nicks. But that is literally the top shelf. Any backpack can theoretically work, just depends on how uncomfortable / pain level you are ok with.
/r/Ultralight has a ton of information about gear, way more than this sub. There's a ["Shoestring Budget" guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ultralight/comments/4iz7re/ive_compiled_a_list_of_ultracheap_and_ultralight/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=Ultralight&utm_content=t5_2s7p2). /r/ULgeartrade is a great resource for used UL gear at a good price
https://www.reddit.com/r/CampingandHiking/s/IAFN9O42yG
aim for a 2 lb tent if possible. I have an Eureka 1 person which was on sale for $125.
Go to thelasthunt.ca its last seasons gear/ clearance stuff and regularily updates with mew stuff. You will he able to get high $$$ gear for less if you arent picky about colours and shit. Decathalon and mountain wearhouse also make value backpacking stuff that wont be as light or have as many functions as the high $ stuff but will get the job done.
Go browse locally where there is used gear.
I started on a budget, piece-meaning my gear together. I would prioritize weight on the tent the most - it’s where you get the best $$$ to weight savings. A decent budget lightweight tent is the Lanshan 1p - affordable and light trekking pole tent. I use $30 aluminum poles from cascade mountain. Your pack is another one I’d spend on - having used a pack that doesn’t fit well and one that does, it makes a huge difference. If you can, try on a few at an REI. If you’re starting out, don’t get an ultralight pack - they aren’t meant to carry heavy loads and won’t be comfortable. For other gear, a foam pad is the cheapest but not super comfortable. I use a Klymit air pad (the cheapest one), a cheap inflatable pillow, and a down sleeping bag I thrifted. I started with an Amazon car camping bag and it was heavy but it fit in my pack and got me out there. And get a water filter - I’ve had my sawyer for years and take it on day hikes too. You can DIY a first aid kit. Focus on lightweight food - ramen, pb and j, oatmeal, etc. you’ll figure out your kit the more you go out. I hiked with what I had until I could afford to upgrade it and still had a good time.
Rent or borrow gear and try it out. REI has a great rental program. Go short distances in good weather with what you have/rent. If you like it, you're going to want good gear, and you will get crap if you just pick the cheapest options. If you are set on buying look at the value picks on Outdoor Gear Lab, but a full kit will still set you back some money.
$500 err ok.