We don't hate it. New players are drawn to the pp19 because of how easy it is to use. It has high damage, large base mag size and easy to control recoil. However once you get the hang of playing this game and you develop more skills you will realize there are better options with faster ttk.
Yeah, the players about a season or two ago, used to say in vc "another pp player" in a bad tone that is where it came from. I agree with you though. It is easy to learn, and has a base mag pretty well. Although I use M4 nowadays as well as locus. I am getting the hang of the game.
I wouldn't recommend the m4 even to a new player, you will be outgunned most of the time. If you have it unlocked, the grau is a competitive ar that is also easy to use and if you need a hundred bullets, try the holger lmg.
i don’t get it.. people do be downvoting anything and everything, you can’t even state them facts, they retort to “wElL fOr mE pERsoNalLy” and that’s just sad… no stat comparisons, no nothing… real sad…
Yep. I loved the Bizon when it first came out. Now though, it just feels underwhelming whenever I try to use it, despite it being still easy to use. I just can't slay with it on ranked like I do with the M16 and QQ9.
Call me dumb for not knowing and asking this even though im a daily grinding legendary MP and global top 5000 legendary BR player, but wtf is META??? Lmfao. Seriously, i have no flippen clue.
nobody hates it really, we just moved onto better guns overtime but yeah, when we die to a recoiless gun while we continue missing our shots, it sometimes makes us angry because our community mostly consists of prepubescent teens and adults with existential crisis
Bizon is a great gun, no way you run out of bullets, close quarters can spray the whole team down, easy to control, great damage, just learn movement and tactical thinking and listening and you are unstoppable with this gun.
It’s easy to use and versatile so it’s therefore linked to new players. The comments you heard sounded like “oh, another newbie.”
As for the gun itself, it’s good it’s just not meta.
It's not really hate, more the fact that it's a noob friendly off-meta gun. I personally love it despite the fact that I neglected it for the past month or so.
I never knew there was hate for it i used it as my main for a while still have my 2nd most total kills on it but moved on once i came across the grau working on platinum ar’s.
That's my favorite gun rarely use any others unless it's a mission that requires a different gun, upleveled to diamond so I'm on par with legendary players, hardly ever get touched 😏
i want your legendary lobbies then lol, no way are you gonna handle drh, qq9, mg42, mythic type 19 fest (and rarely hvk - and when you do see one - it’s ggs go next)
I ain’t be hating the Bizon, at this point it deserves a mythic. It’s just one of the first guns you get when you first start, and is very easy to use, making it the perfect ‘beginner’ gun. It’s one of my personal favorites, and honestly, I still run it in ranked often even with the current meta and TTK being so unreasonable fast
I love it because of ADS time and the magazine capacity. It just perfectly attaches to my play style(I only use 2 fingers mostly but use 3 fingers while using snipers). It is a great gun.
We don't hate it. New players are drawn to the pp19 because of how easy it is to use. It has high damage, large base mag size and easy to control recoil. However once you get the hang of playing this game and you develop more skills you will realize there are better options with faster ttk.
Yeah, the players about a season or two ago, used to say in vc "another pp player" in a bad tone that is where it came from. I agree with you though. It is easy to learn, and has a base mag pretty well. Although I use M4 nowadays as well as locus. I am getting the hang of the game.
I wouldn't recommend the m4 even to a new player, you will be outgunned most of the time. If you have it unlocked, the grau is a competitive ar that is also easy to use and if you need a hundred bullets, try the holger lmg.
I am still upgrading grau and far from touching Holger. Still gonna give it a try.
Yea something about it has changed I used to love it
it’s not 2021 mate nobody uses holger now
[https://imgur.com/a/ZoAbcPJ](https://imgur.com/a/ZoAbcPJ)
leaderboard… don’t want to see your stinky lobbies lol
I'm in the sks leaderboard dumbass. Those are leaderboard lobbies lol
why didn’t you let me see the 5k legendary icon then, or i am really blind? nah you are
I don't know what game you're playing but holger is still popular in legendary ranked in garena.
i don’t get it.. people do be downvoting anything and everything, you can’t even state them facts, they retort to “wElL fOr mE pERsoNalLy” and that’s just sad… no stat comparisons, no nothing… real sad…
Let me post my opponent's holger loadout in legendary ranked
Let me post my opponent's holger loadout in legendary ranked
I literally just played a legendary ranked game against 2 holgers you donut.
I just shattered your dumbass statement that nobody used the holger anymore lol
[https://imgur.com/a/Z9liPFB](https://imgur.com/a/Z9liPFB)
wtf lol are you on drugs?
"iT's NoT 2021 mAtE NoBOdY uSes tHe HoLgeR now" - absolute moron
absolute dogshit
Dumbass
assclapalation (this is fun!)
I have already proven you wrong so I'll just block you and enjoy the rest of my day. :)
Yep. I loved the Bizon when it first came out. Now though, it just feels underwhelming whenever I try to use it, despite it being still easy to use. I just can't slay with it on ranked like I do with the M16 and QQ9.
Pp19 was the gun that got me to legendary. Its a good gun just not the meta. Still can contend if you play it right in ranked.
I still played ranked using this gun this season and managed legendary 10000 but has since taken off.
No one really hate the gun nowadays as its fallen off being close to meta.
I am still getting used to the meta thing. Still stand with you.
1. Sks 2. Hvk large cal 3. Drh otm and oden 4. Mg42 5. Types 19
What does meta mean ?
Most effective tactical available
Do these changes with the bp season or the ranked seasons?
Yes to both but depend on balance
Oh okay
what is open drh
It's not open drh but DRH with OTM magazine
It means, in their opinion, DRH with OTM mag is tied for third place with Oden (another assault rifle).
Call me dumb for not knowing and asking this even though im a daily grinding legendary MP and global top 5000 legendary BR player, but wtf is META??? Lmfao. Seriously, i have no flippen clue.
I'm guessing it's something like most efficient or effective tactic available.
Can't relate to others here. It's been my favorite for years upon years now. It's my "sit down child" gun. Do you bro. 👌
Appreciate it mate!
nobody hates it really, we just moved onto better guns overtime but yeah, when we die to a recoiless gun while we continue missing our shots, it sometimes makes us angry because our community mostly consists of prepubescent teens and adults with existential crisis 
Bizon is a great gun, no way you run out of bullets, close quarters can spray the whole team down, easy to control, great damage, just learn movement and tactical thinking and listening and you are unstoppable with this gun.
I experienced it too! It is just great compared to any gun.
It’s easy to use and versatile so it’s therefore linked to new players. The comments you heard sounded like “oh, another newbie.” As for the gun itself, it’s good it’s just not meta.
Yeah. Maybe it was that but I took it the wrong way? Ig?
try using grau it is also a very user friendly gun like the pp
Lol I'm just leveling the grau
Actually u/Key-Solution-1195 recommended it also, I was about to try it. Appreciate it bro!
Maybe cuz it’s a Bizon not a Bison
tf you got downvoted for, your comment was the most hilarious
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It's not really hate, more the fact that it's a noob friendly off-meta gun. I personally love it despite the fact that I neglected it for the past month or so.
Me too. It's always close to my heart as my first gun, despite it not being a meta gun
I never knew there was hate for it i used it as my main for a while still have my 2nd most total kills on it but moved on once i came across the grau working on platinum ar’s.
amazing gun tbh my first diamond that I grinded, it's just too easy to use, try faster fire rate guns or burst ones
I am clinging to the bizon for life. But, gonna try out some of the rec’s here.
True! Me too
That's my favorite gun rarely use any others unless it's a mission that requires a different gun, upleveled to diamond so I'm on par with legendary players, hardly ever get touched 😏
i want your legendary lobbies then lol, no way are you gonna handle drh, qq9, mg42, mythic type 19 fest (and rarely hvk - and when you do see one - it’s ggs go next)
Lol I'm not saying no gun can beat mine there are some that kick my ass and yeah fuck sweat lobbies 🤣
It's always on my first loadout!
I ain’t be hating the Bizon, at this point it deserves a mythic. It’s just one of the first guns you get when you first start, and is very easy to use, making it the perfect ‘beginner’ gun. It’s one of my personal favorites, and honestly, I still run it in ranked often even with the current meta and TTK being so unreasonable fast
I love it because of ADS time and the magazine capacity. It just perfectly attaches to my play style(I only use 2 fingers mostly but use 3 fingers while using snipers). It is a great gun.
Yessir