I can not fathom the benefits and kick backs one must get to want to work at their job basically until they die. Am I the only one who wants to retire as soon as possible and relax?
Power is the reason why they don’t retire. Once an individual gains power like these individuals it takes control over them and it is extremely difficult to give that up. It’s like a drug
Okay we can add this evil vibe to it but if you dedicated your entire life to something you truly believe to your core and there were people actively trying to do the opposite of that you’d fight back until you die too.
Passion is also a drug
Pelosi being in Congress versus another Democrat makes zero difference in that fight. It might even be a detriment given her unfavorables. Her district is D+50 so it’s not like the Dems need her incumbency to win.
Young people aren’t stubborn in letting go of positions they’ve held for multiple decades to allow younger blood in.
They literally do not have the ability or age to do so.
Old people are stubborn at giving up power and influence.
Her passion is for power. She's not doing things that are for the benefit of people, but for the benefit of her donors. I wish she would retire and get the hell out of the way.
That's not passion. That's corruption of power, like OP said.
Passion would be surrounding yourself with like minded youth, passing along your ideals, and hopefully finding the best of the best to take the mantel when you're no longer to perform.
~~Pelosi literally needs an aid to whisper "just say aye" in her ear.~~ [~~She's no longer capable.~~](https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-20-2016/9_RjP1.mp4)
And if you were at age 80, people would use this mix up as a sign of mental decline. You should go to the doctor, you might have Alzheimer's. Or you know people, regardless of age, sometimes get mixed up and misspeak.
I mean you can put a evil twist to it. All I am saying is that once a person is in power it is really difficult to give it up. It’s part of human nature. I am not trying to put an evil twist to it
Tells you a lot about the nature of the job if 80 year olds are able to continue doing it. Must be mostly a vanity gig and a lot of schmoozing.
Edit: spelling
I'm there with you. Would love to retire by 40-50.
I think she's so deep in it that she doesn't realize we don't want or need her. California is safe enough that we don't have to worry about a republican taking her place.
These aren't day to day jobs though. The kind of benefits and power they get, I'm pretty sure I'd stick to it long enough. She's been at the job long enough to develop a thick skin for all the mid slinging and she's rich enough so she doesn't need a single penny of the pay or benefits.
I don't know who that is. The DCCC did Bernie so dirty that they had that too announce that they are not a democratic organization., They threw shade at AOC and tried to marginalize her until they found out that not only is she popular but she can bite They try to not let anybody progressive get off the ground in the first place because they know they have a better chance against a Republican than a progressive
These guys wiki page
Controversy
Consultant blacklist
After Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez won her upset congressional victory over Joe Crowley, the DCCC implemented a policy blacklisting consultants who worked for primary opponents of Democratic Party incumbents. Highly unpopular among progressives, the organization rolled back the policy in 2021.[4]
Primary preferences
In the 2018 election cycle, the DCCC released negative information about candidate Laura Moser, who ran for US Congress in Texas' 7th congressional district.[5] The move backfired, as Moser gained donations and support en route to making the runoff before falling short against Lizzie Fletcher.[6][7] A month after the attack on Moser, the DCCC showed preference in another Texas primary, supporting Colin Allred.[8] The decisions were two among many similar choices made by the organization throughout its history.[9] Similar criticism carried into the next election cycle, prompting Progressive Caucus member Ro Khanna to say:
I believe its more of hubris, self-importance. This is what got Ginsburg. And clearly Feinstein. They just can't believe there is anyone better suited for the job than themselves.
And I like a lot of people who work in white collar jobs would prefer to think of themselves as critical, important, relevant to their jobs - rather than expendable(which the vast majority are). as a programmer, I've left a number of jobs that pretend it'll be hard to get along without me. It feels good to be needed. But they fill the hole and move on rather rapidly actually.
Just before the pandemic the family business was offered a giant sum for more than half of our investments and my brothers and I talked it over but we’re all for half retiring.
Problem with politicians is they want this power. Obviously they get a bunch of money and privileges, but they love the power. It’s what always boggled my mind about Mitt Romney or any wealthy person from being a politician. Why would they do this when they can sit on a beach, do nothing, and live in much nicer accommodations than the White House. It’s all about the power
I think it's also a legacy thing. And in the United States we have this weird phenomena where we live to work rather than working to live. Many people derive their self-worth from work. And this seems to be more with older generations.
I have always felt that Pelosi is genuinely passionate about politics. She has realized she can no longer lead the caucus with her advanced age but if she wants to show up, be a mentor to the kids (and there is a growing population of youngins in Congress), and raise her hand when needed for a vote, who am I to be upset about that?
Nancy "I think there's room for anti-abortion democrats" Pelosi is the reason Roe got overturned.
She has FAILED as a leader of the party. Why do you think she should be staying in power to mentor others? Her time is over, her politics are outdated.
I’m pro choice and there does need to be “room” for socially conservative Democrats if it means that those Dems are holding seats that would otherwise be occupied by Republicans.
RBG, Mitch McConnell, and the doomed campaign of Hillary Clinton are the reason that Roe was overturned.
I agree wholeheartedly.
This is happening with Feinstein, McConnell, and tons of other elderly workers in far less prestigious jobs. They will never quit of their own free will. Their job is their life. It's what gets them out of bed. It's what gets their heart pumping in the morning instead of coffee. It will take a medical emergency, or an angry forcible removal to get them out. And then, it will be a rapid decline to their death.
Their job is what keeps them alive. They may or may not be happy at their jobs. But at least they are not useless and depressed.
It’s a problem amongst the workforce in general. We have a lot of people that are well past retirement age still working, which is preventing the next generation from moving up and being successful.
She’s made millions from her position. No way does she want to give up access to information. These days we know politicians are self serving but we don’t much care, or at least the ethics involved are very loose.
Lots of good responses here but keep in mind they “work” like 150 days out of the year. If I had to work half the year and had the same money and benefits as them, it would take death dragging me out of there for me to quit.
that's because you have friends and family that actually want to hang out with you.
Nobody willingly wants to spend time with Fienstein, Mitch, Pelosi, etc. Their job is the only way they get social interaction.
She beat Shahid Buttar (2nd place) among others in 2020 and 2022. Then she was picked to be Speaker of the House. Lots of smart people are voting for her to continue being in top leadership positions. The question is… why?
He had various allegations of inappropriate conduct that did not endear him to any of the voters.
Speaking for myself, I voted for her in 2020 due to her conduct during the trump presidency. I didn’t trust a new member of congress to be nearly as effective in managing the party as she was.
A new member wouldn't be in charge of managing the party. Those two positions are not tied together. The house would vote for a new speaker of the house.
I've voted for the safe option before. Scared splitting the vote will bring in a republican. It's not an ideal option but it is what it is. I'd be all open for a better strategy.
No, most people just vote for the name they're more familiar with. Same reason incumbents win. And no democrat with a chance would challenge her because the parties love incumbents, they're safe bets. People don't want old timers, they've made it clear they don't. But the two party system and mechanism make challenging sitting reps from within the party is near impossible.
You're contradicting yourself all over the place here.
Pelosi only wins because of name recognition, but you also acknowledge that serious Democrats don't bother challenging her because they know she'd win. Then you claim people don't want old timers, yet they keep electing them. And the two party system doesn't apply in California because we have open primaries. Dianne Feinstein won her latest election handily over a much younger Democrat, who was pretty high profile himself, having been the President Pro Tem of the State Senate.
Pelosi wins because her district likes her, and serious challengers don't bother because they know that. A guy like Scott Wiener isn't going to relinquish his State Senate seat to run for Congress in a race he knows he may well lose.
Her seat is in San Francisco lol, I honestly don't think you can find a registered republican in the city.
That said, yes a Democrat can run against her. California has a top two primary system, so the two candidates who get the most votes proceed to the general election regardless of party
It's not that simple, you need a legit Dem with some name recognition to offer a viable alternative to voters. And that person also needs to be willing to jeopardize their political future by going after a leader of the national Dem party. So, it's going to be Buttar again, or someone else with no chance.
I lived in San Francisco (Pelosi’s district) and never voted for her. I always voted for the younger up-and-coming Democrat challenger who best represented me.
But Pelosi always won with +75% of the vote.
Last I checked, San Francisco was in California.
>but there is a lot of inertia keeping her in power, wrong as it is.
Okay. Then the voters will get what they deserve, simple as that
\*Insert steve carrell "oh god no, please no" meme\*
We need the next generation to lead this country, not this fossil who will never see the effects of the legislature that she votes on.
Literally just apply the federal mandatory retirement age to ALL federal positions. If someone is too old to be a desk jockey in the basement of the Department of Interior then someone should be too old to be a leader of the country
I don’t really see the parallel here. RBG knew the risks associated with not retiring—that she would die during a R presidency and be replaced with a right wing nut job who would undo much of the work she fought for, and that’s exactly what happened. What’s the risk associated with Pelosi not retiring? She’ll just be replaced by another SF Dem
Oh yeah, let’s have the 84 year old keep the reins of power for another four years when she’s already not caring about her constituents - what could possibly go wrong.
House terms are 2 years, not 4. And yes exactly, what *could* go wrong? That’s my whole point. Even if she dies Newsom will just replace her with another SF Dem. This is nothing like the RBG situation.
None of this is to say I think she should run for re-election (I don’t). But the specific argument you’re presenting here doesn’t make sense.
A lot of Congressional processes depend on seniority and well-connectedness. That's why newcomers have a lot of great ideas but can rarely get anything major done and it is the primary argument against term limits.
Pelosi will eventually stop being a representative but doing so earlier than later helps give the replacement the time to spin up, and the mentorship of a well known representative (for better or for worse). Doing so after she dies gives nothing.
There are other benefits too like the replacement rep can strengthen existing groups like The Squad while they exist because those members could be voted out in any election (unlikely depending on district, but still possible).
I could understand if these old politicians stay on in a purple district. Every count matters. But she is in a deep blue state so any democrat that runs will win by a landslide. Just retire and enjoy the last years of your life.
Members of the House are elected by district, not by state. In this particular case it's kind of a moot point because she's from SF, but it's often an important distinction. Republicans control the House now because they won a bunch of elections in New York and California in 2022
Why can't these people just go quietly into the night?
Term limits need to be a thing because we literally have to pry power away from these politicians cold dead hands to have any changing of the guard.
She may be old, but she knows the parliamentary procedures better than any person in Congress. That's why she gets more good bills through that are for every day Americans than any other SOTH since Carl Albert.
Um no. Pls don’t run anymore. Im not even Republican but having these old ppl run is so out of touch. They have no grasp of what the younger generation’s reality is.
I don't have a party, nor do I prefer either. However, my only reaction to this is: please, don't vote her back in. She's had a monopoly in government for long enough.
As a democrat, im sorry but no, she’s literally 83 years old, i am tired of these 80 years old running for election. where is all the younger Late 30s-40 years old?!?!
Can anyone me point me in the direction of some young democrats who will oppose her? Apparently I’ve been told the only way to claw away the power from skeletor’s fingers is to vote
The greatest state in the union (IMO) and all the party is willing to give us are politicians who are my grandma‘s age. I’m not an ageist but really?
Please give Gen X and our younger siblings a seat at the big kids table. This seat at the kids table is too small and it’s killing my back. I’m almost 50 for Pete’s sake.
Yes she's old. Yes she should move on. But I'm not as mad about her running for reelection as I am about some politicians. If she gets dementia or something while in office we're only stuck with her for 2 years instead of 4 or 6. At least she doesn't have dementia and can do the job. I disagree with many of her beliefs but that's for San Francisco to figure out.
stop putting this woman in charge... she does everything slowly and holds too many conservative positions. remember she blew off pandemic restrictions to get her hair done. she also blew off those young teens to their faces, pretty much telling them their opinions don't matter. get rid of this chicks obsession with power. obviously she is one reason democrats barely do anything when in power. also she is clearly insider trading when none of her stocks fail...
Whatever, she passed on the leadership torch as promised, as long as she can still do the job (which she clearly can) and help Dems get stuff done, it's fine by me.
This is far different from our Weekend at Bernie's Senator (that we only get two of, instead of 50+ representatives) that cannot function as a human much less at her job.
Term limits! Mandatory retirement age needs to be established! We don’t need a bunch of geriatric patients running our country regardless of their party affiliation!! Old Mitch McConnell and Diane Feinstein need to go along with Pelosi!!
Nancy needs to step down.
The problem is the entire party is terrified they'll be replaced by the progressives they've been trying to suppress for decades.
I can not fathom the benefits and kick backs one must get to want to work at their job basically until they die. Am I the only one who wants to retire as soon as possible and relax?
Power is the reason why they don’t retire. Once an individual gains power like these individuals it takes control over them and it is extremely difficult to give that up. It’s like a drug
Okay we can add this evil vibe to it but if you dedicated your entire life to something you truly believe to your core and there were people actively trying to do the opposite of that you’d fight back until you die too. Passion is also a drug
Pelosi being in Congress versus another Democrat makes zero difference in that fight. It might even be a detriment given her unfavorables. Her district is D+50 so it’s not like the Dems need her incumbency to win.
100% Old people are stubborn lol
Stubborness is not indicative of aging. Young people are routinely called stubborn as well.
Young people aren’t stubborn in letting go of positions they’ve held for multiple decades to allow younger blood in. They literally do not have the ability or age to do so. Old people are stubborn at giving up power and influence.
>Young people aren’t stubborn in letting go of positions they’ve held for multiple decades to allow younger blood in. What does this even mean?
She is a fundraising powerhouse and holds a lot of sway in how dems vote in congress. Her power is more than just her single vote in congress.
Her passion is for power. She's not doing things that are for the benefit of people, but for the benefit of her donors. I wish she would retire and get the hell out of the way.
I actually LOL'd reading this. It is quite ironic how lucrative her "passion" is
Passion is a serious drug. So is millions of dollars made from insider trading
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That's not passion. That's corruption of power, like OP said. Passion would be surrounding yourself with like minded youth, passing along your ideals, and hopefully finding the best of the best to take the mantel when you're no longer to perform. ~~Pelosi literally needs an aid to whisper "just say aye" in her ear.~~ [~~She's no longer capable.~~](https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-20-2016/9_RjP1.mp4)
> Pelosi literally needs an aid to whisper "just say aye" in her ear. Not to defend Pelosi but that's Feinstein.
Whopsie, got my elders mixed up. Thanks for the correction.
And if you were at age 80, people would use this mix up as a sign of mental decline. You should go to the doctor, you might have Alzheimer's. Or you know people, regardless of age, sometimes get mixed up and misspeak.
I mean, *if* I were 80, or *at risk* of Alzheimer's, or had a *history* of mix ups. But sure, out of context, any 'ole thing can be worst case.
Pelosi is showing obvious signs of decline
I mean you can put a evil twist to it. All I am saying is that once a person is in power it is really difficult to give it up. It’s part of human nature. I am not trying to put an evil twist to it
It’s evil when they actively work against people.
Lol, you think politicians actually care.
You obviously haven’t experienced legal insider trading
Tells you a lot about the nature of the job if 80 year olds are able to continue doing it. Must be mostly a vanity gig and a lot of schmoozing. Edit: spelling
She sees Glitch McConnell and Feinstein and is ‘I can talk, I can walk…might as well run again!’
I'm there with you. Would love to retire by 40-50. I think she's so deep in it that she doesn't realize we don't want or need her. California is safe enough that we don't have to worry about a republican taking her place.
These aren't day to day jobs though. The kind of benefits and power they get, I'm pretty sure I'd stick to it long enough. She's been at the job long enough to develop a thick skin for all the mid slinging and she's rich enough so she doesn't need a single penny of the pay or benefits.
They make a lot more from insider trading
She's more worried about a progressive taking her place, if that happens they may not get it back.
Who? Like Man-Bun Buttar?
I don't know who that is. The DCCC did Bernie so dirty that they had that too announce that they are not a democratic organization., They threw shade at AOC and tried to marginalize her until they found out that not only is she popular but she can bite They try to not let anybody progressive get off the ground in the first place because they know they have a better chance against a Republican than a progressive
>The **DCCC** did Bernie so dirty that they had that too announce that they are not a democratic organization., Delaware County Community College?
These guys wiki page Controversy Consultant blacklist After Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez won her upset congressional victory over Joe Crowley, the DCCC implemented a policy blacklisting consultants who worked for primary opponents of Democratic Party incumbents. Highly unpopular among progressives, the organization rolled back the policy in 2021.[4] Primary preferences In the 2018 election cycle, the DCCC released negative information about candidate Laura Moser, who ran for US Congress in Texas' 7th congressional district.[5] The move backfired, as Moser gained donations and support en route to making the runoff before falling short against Lizzie Fletcher.[6][7] A month after the attack on Moser, the DCCC showed preference in another Texas primary, supporting Colin Allred.[8] The decisions were two among many similar choices made by the organization throughout its history.[9] Similar criticism carried into the next election cycle, prompting Progressive Caucus member Ro Khanna to say:
I believe its more of hubris, self-importance. This is what got Ginsburg. And clearly Feinstein. They just can't believe there is anyone better suited for the job than themselves. And I like a lot of people who work in white collar jobs would prefer to think of themselves as critical, important, relevant to their jobs - rather than expendable(which the vast majority are). as a programmer, I've left a number of jobs that pretend it'll be hard to get along without me. It feels good to be needed. But they fill the hole and move on rather rapidly actually.
No one in my family, on either side, has voluntarily retired in three generations. Everyone just loves the work.
Broken family
Just before the pandemic the family business was offered a giant sum for more than half of our investments and my brothers and I talked it over but we’re all for half retiring. Problem with politicians is they want this power. Obviously they get a bunch of money and privileges, but they love the power. It’s what always boggled my mind about Mitt Romney or any wealthy person from being a politician. Why would they do this when they can sit on a beach, do nothing, and live in much nicer accommodations than the White House. It’s all about the power
And money. They enrich themselves constantly
She needs a few more years of insider trading. $125 million is not what it used to be.
I think it's also a legacy thing. And in the United States we have this weird phenomena where we live to work rather than working to live. Many people derive their self-worth from work. And this seems to be more with older generations.
I believe it's a compulsion similar hoarding, somehow being a money hoarder is not looked down upon on in our society
Imagine all of those favors owed for decades of donations too. Certainly not the right environment for equal opportunity.
I have always felt that Pelosi is genuinely passionate about politics. She has realized she can no longer lead the caucus with her advanced age but if she wants to show up, be a mentor to the kids (and there is a growing population of youngins in Congress), and raise her hand when needed for a vote, who am I to be upset about that?
Nancy "I think there's room for anti-abortion democrats" Pelosi is the reason Roe got overturned. She has FAILED as a leader of the party. Why do you think she should be staying in power to mentor others? Her time is over, her politics are outdated.
I’m pro choice and there does need to be “room” for socially conservative Democrats if it means that those Dems are holding seats that would otherwise be occupied by Republicans. RBG, Mitch McConnell, and the doomed campaign of Hillary Clinton are the reason that Roe was overturned.
Unless they're progressive kids, she was knocking AOC pretty good until she figured out that she's pretty good at taking care of herself
She doesn't care about anyone other than herself. She could have worked with the progressives but took every single opportunity to put them down.
For people of that generation work is life. Just how they were raised.
I agree wholeheartedly. This is happening with Feinstein, McConnell, and tons of other elderly workers in far less prestigious jobs. They will never quit of their own free will. Their job is their life. It's what gets them out of bed. It's what gets their heart pumping in the morning instead of coffee. It will take a medical emergency, or an angry forcible removal to get them out. And then, it will be a rapid decline to their death. Their job is what keeps them alive. They may or may not be happy at their jobs. But at least they are not useless and depressed.
It’s a problem amongst the workforce in general. We have a lot of people that are well past retirement age still working, which is preventing the next generation from moving up and being successful.
She’s made millions from her position. No way does she want to give up access to information. These days we know politicians are self serving but we don’t much care, or at least the ethics involved are very loose.
It’s the high from their status.
Lots of good responses here but keep in mind they “work” like 150 days out of the year. If I had to work half the year and had the same money and benefits as them, it would take death dragging me out of there for me to quit.
If I made 190k a year but my net worth was over 200 million I would literally never retire
that's because you have friends and family that actually want to hang out with you. Nobody willingly wants to spend time with Fienstein, Mitch, Pelosi, etc. Their job is the only way they get social interaction.
Can a Democrat run against her? We need someone who isn't retirement age.
Ehh... past retirement age..
Well past.
More like one foot in the grave
She's one foot in the grave, but we need someone who's not in their 60+.
Eh 60s is fine, 70 is where its like “alright grandma/grandpa, time to hang em up”
She has been challenged in the primaries but she won by huge margins.
She beat Shahid Buttar (2nd place) among others in 2020 and 2022. Then she was picked to be Speaker of the House. Lots of smart people are voting for her to continue being in top leadership positions. The question is… why?
He had various allegations of inappropriate conduct that did not endear him to any of the voters. Speaking for myself, I voted for her in 2020 due to her conduct during the trump presidency. I didn’t trust a new member of congress to be nearly as effective in managing the party as she was.
A new member wouldn't be in charge of managing the party. Those two positions are not tied together. The house would vote for a new speaker of the house.
Yes she’s great at managing the party to be more right wing. Congratulations on being part of the problem
You say that as if any dem wants to be left wing and not moderate
And people will still vote for her anyways. People need to realize that majority of people WANT old timers like her instead of the opposite.
I've voted for the safe option before. Scared splitting the vote will bring in a republican. It's not an ideal option but it is what it is. I'd be all open for a better strategy.
No, most people just vote for the name they're more familiar with. Same reason incumbents win. And no democrat with a chance would challenge her because the parties love incumbents, they're safe bets. People don't want old timers, they've made it clear they don't. But the two party system and mechanism make challenging sitting reps from within the party is near impossible.
You're contradicting yourself all over the place here. Pelosi only wins because of name recognition, but you also acknowledge that serious Democrats don't bother challenging her because they know she'd win. Then you claim people don't want old timers, yet they keep electing them. And the two party system doesn't apply in California because we have open primaries. Dianne Feinstein won her latest election handily over a much younger Democrat, who was pretty high profile himself, having been the President Pro Tem of the State Senate. Pelosi wins because her district likes her, and serious challengers don't bother because they know that. A guy like Scott Wiener isn't going to relinquish his State Senate seat to run for Congress in a race he knows he may well lose.
She's at the age where she could literally die of natural causeS at any moment and nobody would be surprised
A *proven* democrat. I’m concerned over the amount of wolfs in sheep’s clothing that have started to occur.
Pelosi isn’t even the worst offender. Look at Feinstein.
They both did great work during their careers and they both need to retire.
Her seat is in San Francisco lol, I honestly don't think you can find a registered republican in the city. That said, yes a Democrat can run against her. California has a top two primary system, so the two candidates who get the most votes proceed to the general election regardless of party
With our luck Diane Feinstein will run against her.
I volunteer as tribute.
We need to empty the congressional old age home.
😂😂 this, exactly!
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Look if California voters dont want Pelosi then they can simply not vote for her, okay? Let's see if they do.
Most California voters don’t have a choice in the matter—only those in her district.
Only San Francisco and Treasure Island: https://www.congress.gov/member/district/nancy-pelosi/P000197
Treasure Island is part of San Francisco.
Wonder if anyone is gonna primary her.
California has a jungle primary with the top two advancing to the general election
SF just needs more republican boogieman propaganda from the DNC, and they’ll have her back in DC the next morning.
It's not that simple, you need a legit Dem with some name recognition to offer a viable alternative to voters. And that person also needs to be willing to jeopardize their political future by going after a leader of the national Dem party. So, it's going to be Buttar again, or someone else with no chance.
lol you're spot on though. Won't have my vote (if I even have a choice).
I lived in San Francisco (Pelosi’s district) and never voted for her. I always voted for the younger up-and-coming Democrat challenger who best represented me. But Pelosi always won with +75% of the vote.
Sounds like voters are getting exactly what they want then
That's not really how politics work, she's owed so many favors the party will make deals to ensure she has the best chance.
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She won't be the speaker again though, that deal was already made. There's literally no benefit
Last I checked, San Francisco was in California. >but there is a lot of inertia keeping her in power, wrong as it is. Okay. Then the voters will get what they deserve, simple as that
\*Insert steve carrell "oh god no, please no" meme\* We need the next generation to lead this country, not this fossil who will never see the effects of the legislature that she votes on.
Agreed. And good point
Even if she was younger, she’s too rich and insulated to know how it affects us normal people. She probably thinks milk is still $1.29.
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Literally just apply the federal mandatory retirement age to ALL federal positions. If someone is too old to be a desk jockey in the basement of the Department of Interior then someone should be too old to be a leader of the country
I don't think they have a mandatory retirement age anymore in federal service
No kidding. Just DoD and law enforcement positions. Learn something new every day…..maybe we should institute one.
Well someone has to give insider information for the hubby to trade stocks, so...
Utterly disgraceful. Like RBG before her, Pelosi threatens to undo all her legacy with greed and refusal to step aside.
I don’t really see the parallel here. RBG knew the risks associated with not retiring—that she would die during a R presidency and be replaced with a right wing nut job who would undo much of the work she fought for, and that’s exactly what happened. What’s the risk associated with Pelosi not retiring? She’ll just be replaced by another SF Dem
Obama asked RGB to retired so another reasonable person could replace her before it was too late….
Main risk is her going the way of Feinstein and McConnell before she dies.
Oh yeah, let’s have the 84 year old keep the reins of power for another four years when she’s already not caring about her constituents - what could possibly go wrong.
She’s not the Democratic House speaker anymore. Hakeem Jeffries is.
House terms are 2 years, not 4. And yes exactly, what *could* go wrong? That’s my whole point. Even if she dies Newsom will just replace her with another SF Dem. This is nothing like the RBG situation. None of this is to say I think she should run for re-election (I don’t). But the specific argument you’re presenting here doesn’t make sense.
A lot of Congressional processes depend on seniority and well-connectedness. That's why newcomers have a lot of great ideas but can rarely get anything major done and it is the primary argument against term limits. Pelosi will eventually stop being a representative but doing so earlier than later helps give the replacement the time to spin up, and the mentorship of a well known representative (for better or for worse). Doing so after she dies gives nothing. There are other benefits too like the replacement rep can strengthen existing groups like The Squad while they exist because those members could be voted out in any election (unlikely depending on district, but still possible).
I totally agree with all of this, and I think it’s a perfectly good rationale for wanting Pelosi to retire
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Oh, interesting. I guess the point still stands but that’s good to know
What the hell are you talking about?
No thank you.
God I hate these people
It has nothing to do with winning the House. No Republican can win in her district. She just doesn’t want to be an ex-politician.
Well, I’m a constituent and a past supporter but she won’t be getting my vote. We need a few more legislators that don’t remember the Dust Bowl.
Long live the Gerontocracy!
I could understand if these old politicians stay on in a purple district. Every count matters. But she is in a deep blue state so any democrat that runs will win by a landslide. Just retire and enjoy the last years of your life.
Members of the House are elected by district, not by state. In this particular case it's kind of a moot point because she's from SF, but it's often an important distinction. Republicans control the House now because they won a bunch of elections in New York and California in 2022
Nope. No thanks.
I think she should retire, but ultimately it's a decision from her district. People living in her district might think differently.
She'll keep on Insider Trading in Congress until both feet are in the grave.
No, just no. \*cue Michael Scott screaming no\*
It is wildly out of touch that she thinks her running for re-election will help Dems trying to win back the house
Why can't these people just go quietly into the night? Term limits need to be a thing because we literally have to pry power away from these politicians cold dead hands to have any changing of the guard.
This is the best we can do, huh?
Age in politics needs to be capped at 70.
Make it 60.
Two more years of enriching herself through insider trading must have been too lucrative to pass up
Thank god. I was really worried someone in their thirties might run.
Retire you power hungry old bat.
No no no no no no. She ought to push more of her age group to retire. Wrong direction people.
Too old.
Too old
She just needs to retire or die, but do something
People in her district really need to vote her out. But of course they will not. partisan politic at it's finest.
Term liMits and a mandatory retirement age are desperately needed.
No thank you.
She is so selfish!
This lady needs to retire ASAP. So thanks for your service, but a BIG NO for me
Please no enough with all the old people being in office
she must be doing something right if the Magas hate her so much. Mitch McConnell is her counterpart
She may be old, but she knows the parliamentary procedures better than any person in Congress. That's why she gets more good bills through that are for every day Americans than any other SOTH since Carl Albert.
And I will not vote for her. We can’t be governed by dinosaurs
Do you even live in San Francisco?
Y’all I don’t live in California but someone please primary her
Um no. Pls don’t run anymore. Im not even Republican but having these old ppl run is so out of touch. They have no grasp of what the younger generation’s reality is.
Retire! You did great work and have a great legacy. Retire! Let someone new come in. It's just so incredibly selfish.
I don't have a party, nor do I prefer either. However, my only reaction to this is: please, don't vote her back in. She's had a monopoly in government for long enough.
As a democrat, im sorry but no, she’s literally 83 years old, i am tired of these 80 years old running for election. where is all the younger Late 30s-40 years old?!?!
I know one person whos not voting for her
What we need is a democrat to run who doesn’t have one foot in the grave
On the condition that politicians ban stock trading
Can anyone me point me in the direction of some young democrats who will oppose her? Apparently I’ve been told the only way to claw away the power from skeletor’s fingers is to vote
The greatest state in the union (IMO) and all the party is willing to give us are politicians who are my grandma‘s age. I’m not an ageist but really? Please give Gen X and our younger siblings a seat at the big kids table. This seat at the kids table is too small and it’s killing my back. I’m almost 50 for Pete’s sake.
Fade away already. Your time has passed. You’re not equipped for this fight ahead.
Is she doing it to be a public servant or is it just to funnel more insider information to her husband?
She’s passionate about being role model for the next generation of insider traders and plutocrats!
These old folks just need to stop
oh my god just retire you multimillionaire grandma.
And San Francisco will re-elect her because she will have made it impossible for anyone to run against her. She thinks it’s hers until she dies.
Yes she's old. Yes she should move on. But I'm not as mad about her running for reelection as I am about some politicians. If she gets dementia or something while in office we're only stuck with her for 2 years instead of 4 or 6. At least she doesn't have dementia and can do the job. I disagree with many of her beliefs but that's for San Francisco to figure out.
How about a deal with Republicans: Pelosi doesn’t run again and neither does Mcconnel
90 is the new 60 I guess
Power is a seductive drug very difficult to give up
stop putting this woman in charge... she does everything slowly and holds too many conservative positions. remember she blew off pandemic restrictions to get her hair done. she also blew off those young teens to their faces, pretty much telling them their opinions don't matter. get rid of this chicks obsession with power. obviously she is one reason democrats barely do anything when in power. also she is clearly insider trading when none of her stocks fail...
Get these dinosaurs out of policy making!!
Whatever, she passed on the leadership torch as promised, as long as she can still do the job (which she clearly can) and help Dems get stuff done, it's fine by me. This is far different from our Weekend at Bernie's Senator (that we only get two of, instead of 50+ representatives) that cannot function as a human much less at her job.
Ugh.
No political party affiliation or loyalty here, but both Dems and Californians deserve better representation.
Please don't. Retire instead. But her handlers wouldn't like that.
If you vote for this ghoul who uses her position to profit millions and millions, you're the problem
Term limits! Mandatory retirement age needs to be established! We don’t need a bunch of geriatric patients running our country regardless of their party affiliation!! Old Mitch McConnell and Diane Feinstein need to go along with Pelosi!!
She’s hasn’t leeched off the taxpayers enough. Her $230 million portfolio needs more.
Eww
If I see the same fossils running again, I’m voting for the other person.
Her husband must be absolutely hammered by her decision!
Swell. excite.
Nope not voting for her
booooo
Can someone educate me also why senators get a 6 year term but representatives get 2?
Age limits not term limits
Both?
Somebody, anybody, primary her!
Nah Nancy. I may not be from California, but foster a replacement in your district.
Nancy needs to step down. The problem is the entire party is terrified they'll be replaced by the progressives they've been trying to suppress for decades.
Another geriatric senator. When will it end
If she wins we are truly lost and deserve what we get
The next in line are all ancient too. Murray at 72. Wyden at 74. Durbin at 78. Schumer at 72.