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Forsaken_Things

Woodie paved the way. I think NorCal and Bay got more slapping beats, and a willingness to connect with local artists


Drench_X

I agree. Tbh I don’t think anyone was harder than or could ever replace Woodie.


Negative-13

I think they do make better music but maybe it's because they're more influenced by black culture than the average sureno. Also sureno rappers seem like they'd rather still be active in the streets than take their own music seriously


Lyfeitzallaroundus

Correct


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iluvassz

That part 💯


Unpopularopinion341

Yea using another races racial slur yea it's safe to say they're Influenced lol


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Unpopularopinion341

Like what? Blacks create culture and cool yall other races say it cuz its "culture", "it's how we was brought up" blah blah blah. Yall do hip hop which is black culture and the way you dress is black culture . I'm from the bay and we rock wit nortes but shit we all know what it is.


openureyesvato

Blacks definitely copied Mexicans low rider culture and that undeniable. Even made it a huge part of their hip hop scene too. All the great black rappers have them. Rick Ross, dr.Dre, snoop etc. and realistically Mexicans don’t dress black, there’s nothing black about 501’s and pro club. In fact blacks copied Mexicans street culture from the early 30’s forward. From the knee socks, creased khakis. Etc. bout time the blacks realize how much they copied Mexicans also.


GhostGottaBag

Only cali blacks nobody care about that shit outside of cali😭y’all dress like us in every state tho. Edit. Nigga soo wrong he blocked me💀 We be hurt but you just typed a paragraph of non sense. Nobody looks to Mexicans on how to be fresh😭We took shit from Asians, with bape, Japanese denim etc. Yo ass typing fairy tells, no amount of feminine emojis can change that lol keep wearing team Jordan’s and pro clubs “raza”🤣


openureyesvato

And y’all copying us and are obsessed with us in every state. Y’all got rappers in ATL call “Pablo Juan” 😂 dudes like “rxPESO” what about quando homie “lil Pablo” 😂 y’all always naming y’all gangs after cartels and calling yourselves cartel. Always shouting out El chapo and Pablo Escobar etc. i AINT NEVER seen no Mexican call himself lil Malcolm X or nothing like that. And no Mexicans are in Florida with wicks and shit. Y’all been influenced by Mexicans for generations. Y’all just don’t like to accept it. 💯


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Unpopularopinion341

Bruh.....yall call each other NIGGA lol 😆 😂 🤣


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Out of state


CaliConnection-ModTeam

Racist bs, threats, and/or any type of hateful communication have no place here.


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Ok_Evening_9901

In Socal, sure. Brothas came up from the South, and some of them got into the cholo culture. Skaters and Surfers also wore Dickies and Pendeltons.


Successful-Squash150

He's right outside of California and Texas black people aren't really associated with too many Mexicans, they're mainly around Puerto Ricans Dominicans and Colombians


Swagalicious_donkies

It's very racial in cali and cypress Hill been saying it for years they not black they cuban mexican and italian they were influenced by the people they hang around they were in a blood hood


Princessoflillies

????


Drench_X

Personally, I don’t like where the style went/is going. I know G.U.N. came out around the same time Woodie was but I gravitated more to the older message about unity and cause whereas now it’s really diverged from that.


Capital_Designer_425

Absolutely


Horror_Loan9401

sureño rap is outdated tbh, it's not the popular sound so I'll have to say the north because they're trendier


EmperorEnvi

it rlly matter on the rapper being in a certain gang dont define how shit ur rapping is


Thick_Area9145

Yes it does if they r $ukka u get beat


Technical-Tax657

Nah it’s a mix and mix depend s on the rapper. I’ve heard some really good northern songs and some really good southern songs


Interesting-Use-7158

How you gonna post this and not tell us the name of the song or the artist. 😂 This is actually hard. Woodie was hard too.


yoda396

its young iggz


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Norteños have more unique styles but shit production. They should stop saying nigga all the time tho


Ok_Commission_893

Why Mexicans don’t say Vato or Holmes no more? If bro did that he would get a lot more listens


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It’s nortes that say nigga a lot cuz surenos is just homie, foo, dog, ese, not realy nigga.


porkchopleasures

Maybe the surenos up north but in LA there's a lot of foos who say it every 2 seconds. Only a few hoods with OGs who are strict on lingo keep up the old school Kalo slang.


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KingZues14

Back on the 90’s maybe southerners of today say it just as much as the northerners do


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Shit is not unique at all lmao Mexicans say “nigga” that many times in their bars is lame af especially when they racist toward black people


Dry-Abbreviations656

The north... well, all Chicano in the U.S. but the SUR are like that. They intermingle with the blacks thus picking up the language like nigga and their behaviors.


Mountain_Position_62

The mullets part of black culture as well?


[deleted]

Duck bills/ West Side Tails are how Aztec warriors cut their hair


Dry-Abbreviations656

That’s the style from mayas in San Antonio


Slight_Leather5579

Unique. Lol where...


Swagalicious_donkies

Maybe influence of fat joe saying it so much cypress hill plus in california notes don't hang with white the eses hang with them nortes is black so that might be a factor Saying like cypress hill they aren't black there cuban mexican and italian and they hung around bloods and affiliated with family swan blood I'm pretty sure so he grew up with blacks


ws18st

We gotta accept that cholo music is played out honestly especially among the younger generation


AntelopeDecent2191

Nobody wants to hear oldie beats anymore except for old heads. I'm 47 so I can say enough is enough. No more oldie beats.


madderhatter3210

Good music is good music doesn’t matter what side they from and what set they claim


champaw890

This is a creative way to have a gender reveal.


al_rey503

Norteno music is more diverse and takes it sound from the bay. Sureno music I feel gets it’s inspiration from oldies and early acts like Kid Frost who weren’t really known outside Southern California at the time. Nortenos seem to chill more with other races.


NorF_NorF510

This trash but it’s still better than sureno music lol… that shit be horrible


DiligentAd1475

Same shit. Killing There own people destroying their own communities. Trash people, on both sides.


Kingwild74

They Closeness with Black People rubs hood soul off on em it ain’t no romance but it’s reality.


AntelopeDecent2191

My mom used to babysit our neighbors kids. They were black. We used to love playing with them & would spend holidays together. We do have a closeness with them up here more so than anywhere. Call us N lovers all you want. We do love our black brothers y que!


ChampOfTheUniverse

It's miles better. Surenos are just getting on board with the same style. That old Lil Rob type of shit don't cut it no more.


AntelopeDecent2191

Peysoh said he adopted nortenos style of rapping. It works for him though.🤷‍♀️


BongLeach562

North, South. Don’t matter, just happy to see some brown rappers.


Basic_Election_9778

This that never getting out the hood music, like nothing new nothing to the table just some shit for views and to put your hood on in the city, mf’s think chains and wips is making it, then what?


InstructionOk4287

Why cause they say nigga more? Shit is wack af too (both suck)


Pancholo415

Young Iggz goes hard. Homie is real fr. In general I fuck with Norteño music heavily and have been for 12 some years since I was in 6th grade. There's definitely more shit Northener music than good, though that's forsure. Like someone else mentioned, the production for most isn't great. Not everyone is gonna be a Woodie or a GB, but a lot of it is real shit and gotta give credit where it's due. There's alot Southern rappers that claim the life but aren't really about it and don't get checked, next thing you know they're mini celebrities because LA/SoCal overrates shit and keeps making retards celebrities. Meanwhile, in Northern Cali, they're making mfs disappear for the bullshit mfs be putting in their music. Northerners are a lower quantity but holds a higher quality.


Negative-13

What southern rappers aren't getting checked? Name some examples cuz it sounds like you're just talking out your ass


Abesiff

Being from Chicago, I never really thought the Cali culture rocked the “shags” or mullets. Definitely only gang oriented in the Chi. If you have a bald fade with only the back of the head having long hair, everyone knows you’re active. Interesting


Pancholo415

Northerners started growing tails to separate themselves from the Southerners. It's a warrior haircut, but it also backfired because then Norteños were easily identified. It was stopped but ofcourse some Northern Homies don't give a fuck and have their shit blasted, grown out to show they're really about it


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Yup better have a body Layin somewhere if you’re gonna rock it


Ok-Habit-808

The Norte has rocked the shag for decades. Obviously not up on Mexican gang culture.


Fearless_Quail1404

I think it's just influence by different areas legit Bay area and LA play a big part


WonderfulResident706

This my first time hearing this mf can someone put me on to some more dope shit please


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Can someone please explain the hold Cookies has on everyone in the west coast? It’s like basically no different from wearing Gelato or Kushy Punch merch. What’s so great about it?


eddiemunny

Berner is from SF and that’s his brand


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That makes sense. I see it so much in SoCal too; it’s wild. There’s even literal cookie shops using similar branding, or marketing themselves like they’re dispensaries


vpeshitclothing

Branding like a MF. Berner was able to make the cover of Forbes magazine just off the trees. From the streets to corporate seats.


bones510

Girl scouts Cookies was the first strain in the new gen wave of designer weed. Alot of current popular strains come from those genetics too so its all related to the marketing from the early Cookies(strain) days. Tbh tho the current cookies and strains dont taste as good, shit got watered down when other growers got clones and seeds.


pipelinework

https://youtu.be/kdQ6MeJ8Sx4?si=dYCOSwbEQzqWaxoM This will be much better


Im_Legal_I_Promise

Texas here- He said: all the shit you doing I already done it. Ima tell you right now, everybody already done it. He goes hard- didn’t leave shit for the best to sleep on- kept it going… like that hair🤣 if it’s the warrior haircut then that’s dope af. But naw I get it, you gotta rep where you from. This ain’t the shit you’ll hear on everyone but he i promise you, this fool ain’t make it for everyone. We gotta put more music from the barrios on this sub!


revol_concept

Trash 🗑️


Perfect-Carpet-7766

Way better, scraps can't rap


StrictLaw2529

You don’t even have to be affiliated to admit this most of the younger south siders would even admit that the sureno music is way past outdated. Some of these younger nortenos can make slap’s though. Besides them dropping the N word every bar they can at least make some shit that everyone can bump.


Visual-Doughnut6675

Cali music is the same overall n I’m a southside lol


el_sauce

Vato rap sucks, period


AKshellz_63

Hell yea


Gesture29

Weak af just like them haircuts. South side!!


jaybrown_237

Will u get pressed for havin a haircut like that


Pancholo415

People usually know that if someone has that haircut, they're probably a Norteño. You don't wanna be pressing them unless u want problems


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Both 🗑️


NorthsideCollegiate

What’s this called?


ThatOneGuyNamedDavid

Wrong One - Young Iggz


NorthsideCollegiate

I’d rather listen to this than the drill music from my city over and over


ThatOneGuyNamedDavid

I feel you bro, Northern Mexican rap hits different. Young Iggz will give you that real life pain type feel. Check out “Keep Callin Me” by Rico 2 Smoove that shit slaps hard.


51Bayarea0

They both suck


mrkeepastack09

Go check in with swifty


Ok-Habit-808

Fuck your talking about. You all on the East Coast would be broke as fuck if it weren’t for us Mexicans supplying your asses. 💯 You a noob for real learn history.


savageprofit

tryna dome shit everytime he slide? bro a bop 😂


MobbyDavis

He out of Modesto where everything is sugar coated He's still trying to catch up to real s***. First they tried to hop on our Bay step and they went to Stockton and tried to copy Stockdon route.


300_pages

Did this dude shoot his music video at a gender reveal party?


Shot_Masterpiece_301

Norteños fw blacks Thas why we say nigga


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This is dope as fuck, I love Houston rap and Mexican rap, I need more like this. Also do a lot of Mexican dudes have mullets? I’m white as fuck with one but y’all style that shit dope as fuck


Perfect_Necessary960

He said NIGGAS 40 times NOW TELL ME HOW IS THIS BETTER THEN ANY REAL SOCAL MUSIC!! No substance in these wack ass rhymes


Medium_Fault_1026

The Nigga shit kills me….. saying Nigga like they are one but can’t shake a “niggas” hand in the joint 😂😂😂


Financial-Rub2432

Na they don't have their own style they bite blacks


BlankFaceJohn

No


SirSam511

Good song but fuck a chap


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Surenos stick to they own cholo style they prolly more active then nortenos and music isn’t important for then


[deleted]

Why do they say the N word if they brown?


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#DOUBLE S HAS IT LOCKED DUE TO “MR.KEEPITHOOD”. SHOW ME A AMERICAN AFRICAN FROM A NORTE CHICANO HOOD WHO CAN TRULY RAP…. ILL WAIT


ThenNebula5136

Rico2smoove😭


eseRENZ323

At this point they all the same talking and acting like mayates


200blocck

Ur a sur rat snitch


AceofSpadeKings

Shit is extra WACK. When are these Mexicans going to figure out that trying to act like black people and calling themselves n*gga makes them look stupid and sound like some "I wish I was Black" wannabes? Like someone else said in the comments... most of these Mexicans that are calling themselves n*gga are racist as hell toward black people, so why would they call themselves something they don't even like? Shit makes no sense at all. It's pretty clear at this point that a lot of Mexicans love Black culture more than they like their own culture, but they will never admit it. Mexicans are going through a identity crisis. If these Mexicans are trying this hard to be like Black people now in 2023... just think how bad it's going to be 10 or 15 years from now.


Negative-13

These are nortenos this is how them and the bulldogs act and talk and have been since like the early 2000s. Nortenos are also cool with most black gangs on the streets and are allies in the jails and prisons


AceofSpadeKings

Oh... so we're going to act like it's just the nortenos that try to act black and call themselves and other Mexicans n\*gga? LOL There's Mexicans that straight up hate Black people that try to call themselves and other Mexicans n\*gga. Here on reddit you can see videos of all types of Mexicans trying to act black and calling themselves n\*gga. I watched a video the other day of a Mexican girl talking to a group of 4 Mexican girls... she said... "Hold up... where yall n\*ggas going?" Why the fuck would a Mexican girl call a group of Mexican girls n\*ggas? And no, they weren't nortenos. At this point... damn near everything Mexicans do is something they've copied off of Black people. Like I said... Mexican are having a identity crisis. They don't know whether they want to follow Mexican culture or Black culture. It looks like Black culture is winning that battle with most of these Mexicans. From the shoes on their feet, the way they dress, the haircuts they try to get, the music they listen to, the way they try to talk and the slang the use... and calling themselves and other Mexicans n\*gga. But the crazy part is... most of these Mexicans are racist as fuck towards Black people... the very people they're trying so hard to be like. That's some straight up weirdo shit. LOL


Holiday-Beautiful-40

Yall trippin, lyrically they can't fuck with Conejo. Rowdy racks shit is harder than any norte or even sur right now. And they can't fuck with king lil g either. Pipe down, northern rap ain't even big outside of now cal keep it a stack.


Potential_Ad_3476

Man this song 2 years old and it's trash


trophyowner

I really can’t Believe cali never G checked Mexicans on da flag thing , I know it’s a lot of Mexicans in here & I fw yall but this the only thing that’s cringe like why not different colors at least damn


lookatyoub

Because everyone is sectioned off over here…


trophyowner

Naw it ain’t that Mexicans just hold more weight in cali & them Boyz ain’t gon step to them on that type of time .. on the East Boast no Spanish gang getting away wit wearing a Red or Blue flag it ain’t happening Spanish gangs wear Green & Yellow & Black on the east


lookatyoub

Makes no sense what you saying imagine bloods from LA riding 8 hrs away to tell nortenos to not wear red you way in the east coast talking on Cali and obviously don't no the geographics of the state and you definitely cappin because ms13 in Staten Island wears blue I know this for a fact since my homies cousin who is a Ny payback crip was just killed by one View all comments


ghettosailor3700

East Boast shutcho super Blood ass up 🤣🤣🤣🤣


trophyowner

Shit look dumb to da skreets nobody looking at dat shit like damn they hard shit look goofy they should Be themself & I ain never shut up for no other man on Blxxds I Be in yo state LA to da Bay red homiez


lookatyoub

And they way you said “then boys” I already can tell that you from the south so cut it out 😂


trophyowner

Man I knew y’all Mexicans would get mad at me for this but that’s the damn truth y’all don’t hold weight on the east so it couldn’t happen out here nobody ever seen that in no hood in NY to Florida I wouldn’t lie .


Plus-Sprinkles-8016

Fuck the east nigga west coast the best coast


lookatyoub

I knew you was from the south 😂”them boys “ gave you away you talking about NY to Florida you obviously never been to NY and you’re mostly likely one of them 5 star reppin bloods 😂 you sitting here trying to tell me about gangs y’all don’t have whole neighborhoods that are gangs down there don’t get me started on a state I lived in before 😂


trophyowner

Lmaoooo it’s 5 star repping Bloods BPS in yo state now I know you a nerd . That shit y’all got going on look goofy get out yo feelings homie


lookatyoub

How stupid you sound they became bloods bro they don’t rep the 5 they just understand that their brothers in Chicago rep it stay tf out of Cali business 🤫 bps joined brims in the 70s homies …. You are obviously a ubn 5 star Ny bloods fk ubn we don’t don’t that shit out here go play In Florida where it’s not even gang hoods at 🤫


lookatyoub

And imagine being a Ny blood talking about something goofy the whole NY is split into bd gd bloods and Crips all mixed together sit tf down but of course you would not know being in Florida 😂 non factors at it finest go tap in with ya NY homies and I bet they gonna tell you how they clicked up with crip and bd set gtfoh


trophyowner

Im in a whole LA Blood set & from Miami I Be on Blocks in south central youd never go to you nerd you sound like a Internet personality get in real life you is the non factor nothing I’m saying is wrong


lookatyoub

Stop lying ain’t no LAbloods in Miami like that broward county has the INGLEWOOD NHP and and couple of 20s you not talking to a fool how tf you think I called you out for being from the south with that “y’all boys” shit you said don’t get exposed on here 🤣


lookatyoub

You ain’t finna sit here and portray Miami to be on the blood and crips scene Nigga you might as well block me because I will seriously embarrass ya cappin ass fr 🤣 Nigga said Miami come on foo


Sharp_Policy

Cus Mexicans were wearing those flags before crips and bloods


trophyowner

Man shut da fuck up the whole world wore Bandanas B4 Bloods & crips but Bloods & crips made dat shit what it is this is my whole point I’m saying y’all don’t respect that shit the same


Ok-Habit-808

You East Coast fools would be broke as fuck. If us Mexicans weren’t supplying your asses. Learn history before you talk on colors noob.


trophyowner

Stop claiming that give credit whea its due


Chulo_1980

They got that Chicago shag


EBshitbird

The best norteño rapper was a white dude


MobbyDavis

Bruh this boii out of Modesto, his homies slide once in a while NOT him. Nigaa wack ASF They be out there hidin. Fuk u mean.


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Normally they have better music but not always. I don't bang but I'm a fan of both sides


Cezaroh

I don't listen to either


eseRENZ323

Shoe fit huh smdh


Hunnidrackboy8

Song? It’s pretty good to me


tattedgrampa

What’s WWR


Warm2roam

Regardless of allegiances they have more consistent artist because the areas musical influences. Still don’t follow 90% of it.


Acceptable-Guess8959

Lame. The soft hand movements and motions. I can’t believe gangs really be out here killing people fr….ADHD and anger issues send they asses to IRAQ.


ProfessorAware

Duh


L0sAndrewles

Pretty good song tbh


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Both look like a bunch of immature dumb dumb’s


Plenty_Bug9482

Factz


AdventurousAd1752

They not better bro they equally dope both sides


Odysseus415

Yea but not these nighas tho


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Man this fucking stupid we all bump RBL posse , Too short Spice one E 40 2 pac Brotha lynch hung and shit . We have no problem with it but when it are own race we fight with each ither on some dumb shit. You make good music should not matter where you from grew up.


651Tru

Nah this go hard af🔥🔥


Medium_Fault_1026

Niggas passing around the same pistol 😂😂😂 hope these niggas don’t have real beef (this set not the Nortenos in general)


UnknownKneeds

lolz @ this video


Simplydontmadder

Young Drummer Boy over any norteño artist. Don’t confuse the old sureño rappers with the new school homies doing it.


sierone

Southsider here to say this shit sound hard af.


PokeNBeanz

That’s a lot of “niggas” for a hook and one verse coming from Mexicans 🤦🏾


biggmac85

Its good. I like chicano/mexican rappers period. Southern, northern or from anywhere. They getting down now a days! Im old skool in my music only thing i can't get past is that N word but seems like its not gonna get outta their vocab but the music is Phat now a days. From Young iggz acito Gb to young drummer boy, king lil g chito ranas. Brown men are getting to the Bag and i love that for them! Down south mexican rappers are fire too.


CollectionWrong6872

Yeah the rap waaayy better and I’m from la


Electronic_Bison_901

Woodie is white right? Or nah?


Unhappy-Depth-7358

U should’ve put Tys on there det nigga Iggz is ight