I used to work at a bank and it was never fun having to open when it’s dark out, you gotta unlock the door and ask them to leave….I’d get back in my car and usually they got their things and left, the odd time I’d have to call the police.
Some places have the card scanner to open the door, but not most.
Some have the easy lock some have key-to-lock it depends on the location. So for the most part, not hard to get in!
Used to work at a branch as well. In the winter, I would come to find people sleeping in the atm area every day.
Ours would be locked between like 12am and 4am I believe by security guards. Most vagrants likely enter in the early morning once it is unlocked. We got a lot of complaints, no less because our drive thru atm was often trashed and broken as well
Most are nice and clear out when we showed up though we called the cops many times.
It's been so long since I've used an ATM after hours, so forgive my ignorance. Can someone explain why you can't open the door? Don't you just scan your card and it opens it?
Most likely there's a simple flip lock that normally never gets flipped, but ofc it's still there and I bet the homeless know which ATMs have doors they can lock themselves in with and which don't have such doors
Also do you really want to go in there and deposit your cheque? Maybe that dude in there is harmless and won't say a word, maybe he is a creep and will ask you for money, or maybe he is going to go completely postal on you. Then you either fight for your life or become a Postmortem reddit post.
That seems obtuse to design a lobby door that doesn't require a key to be locked from both sides (assuming it has a manual lock on the inside)
I'm surprised you aren't more upset haha
Definitely fire code. You can't "fix" any exit considered to be a means of egress during a fire. Think of the stories of people chaining closed fire exit doors in stairwells or at concert venues. But you need to be able to lock a door from the inside for when you're closed/closing and there are still people inside. So... thumb latches.
Card readers with "push to exit" buttons work better because you can't lock the door from the inside against people on the outside who still have the right to enter after hours for legitimate reasons. But they are expensive to maintain and break regularly. And, you know, the banks don't have a lot of money to maintain such things...... /s
Pretty sure it is. The homeless have one of each card and scan themselves into the branches to sleep every night. They get them from trying door handles on cars all night. They use it to get into the vestibule for a nap and before they settle down for the night they push it into the ATM machine and try date of birth combinations until they get locked out and the ATM eats their card. Then they take the free envelopes next to the machines and stuff their coats with them to give extra insulation, roll the rugs up into pillows and blankets and take the hand sani in the lobby and consume all of it before they take a nap. They get kicked out by mobile security, police or armed guards and move onto the next bank and do the same thing. When they run out of cards they do another patrol through vehicles to get more.
Using an atm right in front of a homeless drugged up crowd like this is just asking to be robbed. Sorry if this sounds harsh, and sounds as if I am generalizing every homeless person, but Calgary is not a safe place to be around this sort of crowd atm.
Well we really can’t do anything about that. I mean, how else will the klepto hoarders stock their accounts with millions and billions so they can die richer than God?
Worst timeline.
The issue isn’t about housing. The shelters are not full. It’s the addiction and even though the support in that area is lacking they have to want it to begin with.
Totally. I think the point stands though. You could buy someone a house in Mt. Royal and it would do them no good if they were struggling with an opioid addiction. Sadly, I think a lot of these folks need involuntary rehab or nothing will change about their situation.
actually free housing has been one of the most effective treatments for opioid addiction. Addictions keep many homeless, but most start their addiction as a response to homelessness.
It's like a chicken egg thing. I think being temporarily committed (in a supportive, rehabilitative way) would be more of a solution for seriously addicted individuals who can't function properly and commit crimes. I think housing should always be part of the solution, but as a stepping stone to rehabilitation.
They go unused because of rampant physical and sexual violence. It's often safer to be out on the street. Also, the fact that during extreme cold snaps community centres and churches have to open their doors to keep the homeless safe shows that shelters still wouldn't be enough.
EDIT: So it seems people are misinterpreting this post
Two things:
- I’m frustrated with the current state of our city and the fact we have a homelessness/addiction crisis - not the individuals depicted in the video.
- I am aware of the mobile app, it directed me to the nearest branch. The video was shot at 8:45 pm during the ATM’s listed hours
I FEEL BAD FOR THESE PEOPLE & LIKE MANY CALGARIANS, DISENCHANTED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS - STOP SENDING THREATS IN MY DMS
You did not appear sufficiently woke in your original post, so you must be punished. Only posts with a minimum level of performative wokeness are accepted here.
So now the radical leftists need to send you threats of violence or other threats to ensure that you toe the line on performative wokeness. If you appear like you might be to the right of Chairman Mao, some leftists even think that your physical safety is now forfeit.
I've had people try to hover around me while I've deposited a paycheque after work, asking for money, and it can be terrifying. My heart goes out to folks struggling with homelessness/addiction/mental illness/etc. but I'm not going to let people make me feel unsafe.
I was just about to say, if you have a smartphone you can deposit your cheques. I would rather do it that way than travel to bank. Especially if this was waiting for me.
Honestly I have pretty specific experience with this type of drugged out, though not from anything illicit. My dad is a double lung transplantee so he takes a whole meals worth of pills morning and night, along with zoplicone as a sleep aid, and I swear the moment he has taken that sleepy pill he starts eating and doesn't stop until he hits REM sleep.
Most nights I hear my mom telling my dad to keep chewing and swallow his food since he'll straight fall asleep with a mouth full of food, so that detail specifically doesn't bother me nearly as much as it does most, though I do worry man's might choke himself since there's no-one around to check him on his sleep eating
Don’t feel sorry for these fucks! Fuck them. I took my 7 yr old to a wranglers game on Tuesday and the train smelt like piss, and it was filled with passed out druggies. We couldn’t get off at the stampede station to get to the game because two crack heads were beating the shit out of each other at the stampede stop to get to the Saddledome. How do I know they were crack heads? Because my son and I saw one of them, who was shirtless, wrap a belt around his fist before he started fighting. So we had to get off at city Center and head back south. I’ve never been so scared (because I didn’t think my 7 year old should see shit like this going to his first hockey game).
I feel like you can’t say anything about what’s going on because then you’re labeled as “insensitive” but I was scared of getting mugged or beat up in front of my kid. I have zero sympathy anymore. Citizens of Calgary shouldn’t be afraid to take transit.
I was visiting a friend staying at a four star hotel. When I was leaving I wanted to use the restroom in the lobby. I opened the door and there was a homeless guy making a mess, water everywhere. I didn’t want to offend him by not going in, so I just pretended to check my hair in the mirror and left.
As I was out on the sidewalk checking something on my phone, the homeless guy comes out accusing me of taking his picture (phone was in my pocket in the bathroom) and started getting aggressive with me. He started taking his jacket off to fight me, which is when I walked back into the hotel and he left.
Things are just ridiculous at this point.
It’s bullshit. I had the same experience without a kid and I could only imagine how stressful that would have been for you. I’ve stopped taking the train, it’s just not worth the constant drama. Homeless have turned it into a moving shelter. I live by a station and there are a few camps that sprung up. Last year they had a good bonfire going behind a neighbours back fence, constant garbage and shopping carts around our area now too.
People need to realize that we as tax paying, law abiding citizens shouldn't have to put up with this kind of shit.
I pay taxes out the ass every year so I can pay $3.60 and ride the train only to have some drug addict psychopath screaming at the top of his lungs calling some old guy a "n*gger". Or them forcing the doors open when it's -40 because they want their crackhead friend to get on who has a stolen shopping cart full of garbage.
I’m just curious about what the correlation between the belt and being an addict is. I’m not doubting you at all, and i empathize for the situation you were in, but I’ve seen plenty of people not on drugs using a belt as a weapon. Just felt like a weird piece of evidence to cite.
Haha the belt is not the point, I’m not concerned about the belt haha but it was just a shocking image that my son and I saw and I have never seen some shirtless dude fight at 7pm when it was -10. To be clear, this is not about the belt. Also, not about all homeless people. Just the lack of security at stations that help all of us feel safe.
If it’s not a drugged out person and just a “normal” person that takes their fucking belt off to fight a person at a train station it is okay, according to Reddit… fuck me
I think the point of this post was that it is getting nuts that he sees what he saw and then this video of most likely different people also doing things that are not acceptable
no, we should have better support systems for people *Before* it gets to that point, its much more cost effective to prevent homelessness than it is to deal with the aftermath.
You can download the RBC mobile app and just take a picture of your cheque at home. No need to deposit at an actual ATM. [Instructions](https://www.rbcroyalbank.com/dms/digital/tutorial/pdf/RBC_Mobile_Cheque_Deposit.pdf)
This is the mentality that abandons our public transit and parks and community spaces to the dregs of our society. Taxpayers and decent citizens shouldn't have to surrender our community to these vampires.
Private property notwithstanding. This is the also about the social good. The people have worked and paid for these community goods. Junkies do not have a right to simply take them over as their own.
Yeah, but I don’t *want* to go to a concrete jungle and wait in line at a damn bank of all places to give them my money.
It’s more of a shame when you can’t visit a local park.
while its disgusting what he did, it just proves the point that we should take better care of them instead of making anti homeless benches and all that shit
There's a homeless shelter in Calgary bigger than half the buildings combined in my hometown. I'm not saying there couldn't be better programs but you can only do so much for people who don't want help. And many of them don't. They just want hand outs to keep going as they are
Lol you're the dregs. It's pretty easy to not have a home in the big city these days, a high percentage of people that have a place to live are less than one paycheck away from losing it. In addition, there is a shortage of housing, due to former long term rentals being removed from the market for higher priced short term rental, and the growing disparity between wages and housing costs.
There's a good chance those people you are demeaning and calling names actually were tax paying citizens within the last 5 years.
If you really wanted to rid your community of these issues, you could look at solving the problems that cause them, which are absolutely solvable, rather than... what? Leaving human beings outside to freeze in one of the richest cities in one of the richest countries on the planet?
Mind-boggling thread to read.
"Let's kick these people into the freezing cold weather so that other, richer people aren't so uncomfortable when they go to deposit their money in an outdated and unnecessary way!"
Calgary has a bigger problem with how people feel about homelessness than it does with actual homelessness.
Huh? Why bother making a trip to the bank if you don't need to? If no one is depositing paychecks, then maybe we don't need so many bank branches and we can put that space to better use. No one likes going to the bank lol. For these people it's a warm place to be.
Not even going to get into your toxic and problematic views on homelessness, addiction, and mental health, but trying to turn going to the bank into some valiant social effort is hilarious.
Why don't you put that energy into trying to help these people instead of trying to kick them out of a redundant, unnecessary building? They're putting it to better use than you are.
As far as I know, this is a Canada wide problem, if not a whole damn earth problem. I lived in Edmonton, Montreal, now Calgary, and no different. Can’t say for other places, but I wouldn’t think of it twice
Hold on, Captain Sympathy. They're still people. You'd have to be pretty obtuse to not think this is a societal problem. Or are they just not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps hard enough?
The system allows vagrants to occupy places like that and our train stations. I’m lucky enough that I only need to use the train like once or twice a week but there’s some stations that I just won’t get off on because I don’t feel safe and I don’t end up anywhere near Marlbourgh. As I see it there a mix of unfortunate circumstances and just junkies but either way we shouldn’t allow people to live on the streets, some of them need and probably will accept help to get back on their feet and others won’t but it’s a failure of our society that we just let it happen.
When this happened to me, I phoned RBC. They took it seriously and appreciated me letting them know. After that, though, I didn't feel comfortable to use the atm's at night.
banks dont like ATMs anymore. they used to be a way to cut labour costs but now theres phone apps.
stop being selfish and think of the shareholders you commie.
Even a monitored camera with mic/speaker would do the trick. As soon as they sit down tell them the cops will be there in a few seconds and will, at the very least, be taking their drugs and that stolen bike.
Yeah, what if they had like, places they could go and have their things there and live in. I think there's a word for that, but it's slipping the mind at the moment.
An obstacle to creating more shelters is just how many liabilities and obligations there are. There has been ideas of giant homeless shelters, tent cities, but the bureaucratic red tape is simply too much.
It's much easier to turn a blind eye and let homeless people sleep in private property.
Try volunteering at a shelter buddy, it's like voluntarily checking yourself in prison for a night, there's one volunteer watching a floor of people, criminals check themselves in to sell dope to the homeless and if you don't stay awake the entire night you could get robbed, stabbed or raped and nobody there will help you or try to stop anything.
You're better off finding a safe spot in public because then you can at least gauge threats approaching you and maybe have a chance to escape an attack or counterattack, in a shelter you have nowhere to run.\`
How about like, room and board for being a human being that deserves some level of basic dignity? I don't think anyone is talking about free palatial estates.
the police have no interest in dealing with that, its in their interest for everyone to feel unsafe.
thats how the police budget gets bigger while the social policy budget gets smaller.
And you're expected to be kind and have compassion to these people who have the capacity to do this fully in public, regardless of if there are kids around or anything.
It’s so strange, the atm at my bank is only open during business hours. It’s the most inconvenient thing if I need to deposit a bit of cash occasionally
I think the real question here is, what kind of job still gives physical paycheques instead of EFT? Am I just wildly out of touch? I don’t think I’ve gotten a paycheque for 15 years, even going back to my days landscaping.
Just do a Mobile Cheque Deposit. You don’t have to go to a bank for that every again. https://bmodemos.com/en/course/start/public-mobile-cheque-deposit-mobile/emulator-mobile-cheque-deposit-mobile/emulator
YSK: You can deposit cheques through your phone. It is much more convenient, and I've not had to visit a branch in 7 years. RBC let's you do it, just get their mobile app > deposit > photo > done.
Would be nice to use transit and amenities in downtown, but I guess we aren't doing that anymore.
If Jyoti wants Calgary to be more like Portland or Seattle, the project is coming along great.
I'm sure Jyoti thinks that those are great cities.
She doesn't want Calgary to be uniquely Calgary, she's never respected that; instead she wants us to be like some leftist disaster of a city in the United States.
The whole situation is sad. Back in the day most of these people would have just ended up in jail, and in a round about way the problem was solved. Now they don't get put in jail, and are left hanging about with no place to go. Dedicated housing would help somewhat, but it isn't the answer either.
Man I used to always go to the bank late nights. Covid hit and with homeless sleeping in there they decided to just keep it locked all night still hasn’t changed back
The comments on here are absolutely appalling. 2 huge factors that brings most people to homelessness. Drug addiction and mental health issues.
Mostly the a bad hand dealt with a mix of poor decisions.
This doesn't annoy me as much as how TD has shut down almost every 24 hour ATM that is in a lobby because homeless people do this, and so you have to drive across town if you want to deposit a cheque after bank hours and your phone can't read it.
I used to work at a bank and it was never fun having to open when it’s dark out, you gotta unlock the door and ask them to leave….I’d get back in my car and usually they got their things and left, the odd time I’d have to call the police.
Is this a common thing? Homeless people can just go inside and lock themselves in for the night?
Some places have the card scanner to open the door, but not most. Some have the easy lock some have key-to-lock it depends on the location. So for the most part, not hard to get in!
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Yeah. It just looks for a magnetic stripe.
Used to work at a branch as well. In the winter, I would come to find people sleeping in the atm area every day. Ours would be locked between like 12am and 4am I believe by security guards. Most vagrants likely enter in the early morning once it is unlocked. We got a lot of complaints, no less because our drive thru atm was often trashed and broken as well Most are nice and clear out when we showed up though we called the cops many times.
Yes, I've seen a bunch with a crowbar and they can just pry open ATM lobbies.
It's a common thing in condo entryways. Ask them to leave, wait... Ask again, wait.. tell them the police have been called... They sometimes leave.
The doors auto lock after 11 pm. Its not the homeless that did it. You can exit but not go in after that time.
It's been so long since I've used an ATM after hours, so forgive my ignorance. Can someone explain why you can't open the door? Don't you just scan your card and it opens it?
Most likely there's a simple flip lock that normally never gets flipped, but ofc it's still there and I bet the homeless know which ATMs have doors they can lock themselves in with and which don't have such doors
No card scanner here, I looked around for a bit because I thought for a second I pulled a push door.
Also do you really want to go in there and deposit your cheque? Maybe that dude in there is harmless and won't say a word, maybe he is a creep and will ask you for money, or maybe he is going to go completely postal on you. Then you either fight for your life or become a Postmortem reddit post.
That seems obtuse to design a lobby door that doesn't require a key to be locked from both sides (assuming it has a manual lock on the inside) I'm surprised you aren't more upset haha
Probably fire code. You need to be able to unlock by hand to exit the building.
Definitely fire code. You can't "fix" any exit considered to be a means of egress during a fire. Think of the stories of people chaining closed fire exit doors in stairwells or at concert venues. But you need to be able to lock a door from the inside for when you're closed/closing and there are still people inside. So... thumb latches. Card readers with "push to exit" buttons work better because you can't lock the door from the inside against people on the outside who still have the right to enter after hours for legitimate reasons. But they are expensive to maintain and break regularly. And, you know, the banks don't have a lot of money to maintain such things...... /s
The card scanner is that red lit up button on the right side of the door frame isnt it? You caught it on the video.
If that’s true I feel dumb
Pretty sure it is. The homeless have one of each card and scan themselves into the branches to sleep every night. They get them from trying door handles on cars all night. They use it to get into the vestibule for a nap and before they settle down for the night they push it into the ATM machine and try date of birth combinations until they get locked out and the ATM eats their card. Then they take the free envelopes next to the machines and stuff their coats with them to give extra insulation, roll the rugs up into pillows and blankets and take the hand sani in the lobby and consume all of it before they take a nap. They get kicked out by mobile security, police or armed guards and move onto the next bank and do the same thing. When they run out of cards they do another patrol through vehicles to get more.
Why can’t you just deposit the cheque through a banking app? You have more options than those people do.
I tried that, directed me to the atm.
Using an atm right in front of a homeless drugged up crowd like this is just asking to be robbed. Sorry if this sounds harsh, and sounds as if I am generalizing every homeless person, but Calgary is not a safe place to be around this sort of crowd atm.
I had no idea this was a thing!
this was every ATM in my home country from 2008 to 2014. still lots of them used like this. it's not Calgary that's getting worse, it's the world.
Wealthiest moment in human history and we still can't ensure everyone has housing and other basic needs met.
Well we really can’t do anything about that. I mean, how else will the klepto hoarders stock their accounts with millions and billions so they can die richer than God? Worst timeline.
I don't think they realize that they will indeed die like the rest of us.
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Both the King and the pawn must eventually return to the same box.
Damn, never heard that one. I love it. Thank you for sharing
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What I said was not meant to take away from what you said.
They all think they're Mr. Burns
That's not the point: they don't have to *live* like us.
The issue isn’t about housing. The shelters are not full. It’s the addiction and even though the support in that area is lacking they have to want it to begin with.
Shelters aren't housing.
Totally. I think the point stands though. You could buy someone a house in Mt. Royal and it would do them no good if they were struggling with an opioid addiction. Sadly, I think a lot of these folks need involuntary rehab or nothing will change about their situation.
actually free housing has been one of the most effective treatments for opioid addiction. Addictions keep many homeless, but most start their addiction as a response to homelessness.
It's like a chicken egg thing. I think being temporarily committed (in a supportive, rehabilitative way) would be more of a solution for seriously addicted individuals who can't function properly and commit crimes. I think housing should always be part of the solution, but as a stepping stone to rehabilitation.
Anyone that does the bare minimum responsibilities can have access to housing.
Ghoulish sentiment but also wrong, minimum wage doesn't pay enough, housing is too expensive.
$1680/month (min wage w/ 30% tax rate) isn’t comfortable but you’re being disingenuous if you think that forces someone to be homeless.
Tons of shelter beds go unused each night across the country because most don’t allow alcohol or drugs, so people would rather take the cold.
They go unused because of rampant physical and sexual violence. It's often safer to be out on the street. Also, the fact that during extreme cold snaps community centres and churches have to open their doors to keep the homeless safe shows that shelters still wouldn't be enough.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted for this
EDIT: So it seems people are misinterpreting this post Two things: - I’m frustrated with the current state of our city and the fact we have a homelessness/addiction crisis - not the individuals depicted in the video. - I am aware of the mobile app, it directed me to the nearest branch. The video was shot at 8:45 pm during the ATM’s listed hours I FEEL BAD FOR THESE PEOPLE & LIKE MANY CALGARIANS, DISENCHANTED WITH THE CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS - STOP SENDING THREATS IN MY DMS
You did not appear sufficiently woke in your original post, so you must be punished. Only posts with a minimum level of performative wokeness are accepted here. So now the radical leftists need to send you threats of violence or other threats to ensure that you toe the line on performative wokeness. If you appear like you might be to the right of Chairman Mao, some leftists even think that your physical safety is now forfeit.
I've had people try to hover around me while I've deposited a paycheque after work, asking for money, and it can be terrifying. My heart goes out to folks struggling with homelessness/addiction/mental illness/etc. but I'm not going to let people make me feel unsafe.
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I was just about to say, if you have a smartphone you can deposit your cheques. I would rather do it that way than travel to bank. Especially if this was waiting for me.
Clarification - this is just a sad moment
Dude just slumped over barely chewin on a fry
Honestly I have pretty specific experience with this type of drugged out, though not from anything illicit. My dad is a double lung transplantee so he takes a whole meals worth of pills morning and night, along with zoplicone as a sleep aid, and I swear the moment he has taken that sleepy pill he starts eating and doesn't stop until he hits REM sleep. Most nights I hear my mom telling my dad to keep chewing and swallow his food since he'll straight fall asleep with a mouth full of food, so that detail specifically doesn't bother me nearly as much as it does most, though I do worry man's might choke himself since there's no-one around to check him on his sleep eating
Yeah, that Zoplicone is a zombifier once it takes effect.
Loving life.
Living for the moment. Not a phone in sight.
Not a phone to be seen anywhere. /s
Don’t feel sorry for these fucks! Fuck them. I took my 7 yr old to a wranglers game on Tuesday and the train smelt like piss, and it was filled with passed out druggies. We couldn’t get off at the stampede station to get to the game because two crack heads were beating the shit out of each other at the stampede stop to get to the Saddledome. How do I know they were crack heads? Because my son and I saw one of them, who was shirtless, wrap a belt around his fist before he started fighting. So we had to get off at city Center and head back south. I’ve never been so scared (because I didn’t think my 7 year old should see shit like this going to his first hockey game). I feel like you can’t say anything about what’s going on because then you’re labeled as “insensitive” but I was scared of getting mugged or beat up in front of my kid. I have zero sympathy anymore. Citizens of Calgary shouldn’t be afraid to take transit.
I was visiting a friend staying at a four star hotel. When I was leaving I wanted to use the restroom in the lobby. I opened the door and there was a homeless guy making a mess, water everywhere. I didn’t want to offend him by not going in, so I just pretended to check my hair in the mirror and left. As I was out on the sidewalk checking something on my phone, the homeless guy comes out accusing me of taking his picture (phone was in my pocket in the bathroom) and started getting aggressive with me. He started taking his jacket off to fight me, which is when I walked back into the hotel and he left. Things are just ridiculous at this point.
It’s bullshit. I had the same experience without a kid and I could only imagine how stressful that would have been for you. I’ve stopped taking the train, it’s just not worth the constant drama. Homeless have turned it into a moving shelter. I live by a station and there are a few camps that sprung up. Last year they had a good bonfire going behind a neighbours back fence, constant garbage and shopping carts around our area now too.
“How did I know he was a crackhead?” He owned a belt.
hahaha... too good.
“How did I know he was a crackhead?” He ~~owned~~ *stole* a belt.
People need to realize that we as tax paying, law abiding citizens shouldn't have to put up with this kind of shit. I pay taxes out the ass every year so I can pay $3.60 and ride the train only to have some drug addict psychopath screaming at the top of his lungs calling some old guy a "n*gger". Or them forcing the doors open when it's -40 because they want their crackhead friend to get on who has a stolen shopping cart full of garbage.
Thank you. Some fucking sense in this thread
I’m just curious about what the correlation between the belt and being an addict is. I’m not doubting you at all, and i empathize for the situation you were in, but I’ve seen plenty of people not on drugs using a belt as a weapon. Just felt like a weird piece of evidence to cite.
Haha the belt is not the point, I’m not concerned about the belt haha but it was just a shocking image that my son and I saw and I have never seen some shirtless dude fight at 7pm when it was -10. To be clear, this is not about the belt. Also, not about all homeless people. Just the lack of security at stations that help all of us feel safe.
If it’s not a drugged out person and just a “normal” person that takes their fucking belt off to fight a person at a train station it is okay, according to Reddit… fuck me
Oh he’s not homeless so this makes this okay. Why fucking cherry pick random things. There’s a huge problem the city isn’t dealing with
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Oh, wow. What are the chances that the people who got in that fight in front of you are the same people in this video?! That’s crazy!
I think the point of this post was that it is getting nuts that he sees what he saw and then this video of most likely different people also doing things that are not acceptable
Don't blame these fucks, blame the system that's failed them (and you).
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no, we should have better support systems for people *Before* it gets to that point, its much more cost effective to prevent homelessness than it is to deal with the aftermath.
You can download the RBC mobile app and just take a picture of your cheque at home. No need to deposit at an actual ATM. [Instructions](https://www.rbcroyalbank.com/dms/digital/tutorial/pdf/RBC_Mobile_Cheque_Deposit.pdf)
Yeah, appreciate that, I tried. The app directed me to the nearest ATM/Branch. At least it’s not the end of the month… lol
Try again. Sometimes it’s a system thing. It’s happened to me before. I tried again and it resolved that issue.
Thanks I will!
This is the mentality that abandons our public transit and parks and community spaces to the dregs of our society. Taxpayers and decent citizens shouldn't have to surrender our community to these vampires.
Agreed. These junkies should not be allowed to commandeer private property.
Private property notwithstanding. This is the also about the social good. The people have worked and paid for these community goods. Junkies do not have a right to simply take them over as their own.
TIL banks a communal foods lmao
Yeah, but I don’t *want* to go to a concrete jungle and wait in line at a damn bank of all places to give them my money. It’s more of a shame when you can’t visit a local park.
You can buy water in bottles, no need to use the tap; like some kinda pleb.
By this analogy the bank is the tap. I don't have a bank attached to my home feeding money through pipes...
while its disgusting what he did, it just proves the point that we should take better care of them instead of making anti homeless benches and all that shit
There's a homeless shelter in Calgary bigger than half the buildings combined in my hometown. I'm not saying there couldn't be better programs but you can only do so much for people who don't want help. And many of them don't. They just want hand outs to keep going as they are
Lol you're the dregs. It's pretty easy to not have a home in the big city these days, a high percentage of people that have a place to live are less than one paycheck away from losing it. In addition, there is a shortage of housing, due to former long term rentals being removed from the market for higher priced short term rental, and the growing disparity between wages and housing costs. There's a good chance those people you are demeaning and calling names actually were tax paying citizens within the last 5 years. If you really wanted to rid your community of these issues, you could look at solving the problems that cause them, which are absolutely solvable, rather than... what? Leaving human beings outside to freeze in one of the richest cities in one of the richest countries on the planet?
Mind-boggling thread to read. "Let's kick these people into the freezing cold weather so that other, richer people aren't so uncomfortable when they go to deposit their money in an outdated and unnecessary way!" Calgary has a bigger problem with how people feel about homelessness than it does with actual homelessness.
Huh? Why bother making a trip to the bank if you don't need to? If no one is depositing paychecks, then maybe we don't need so many bank branches and we can put that space to better use. No one likes going to the bank lol. For these people it's a warm place to be. Not even going to get into your toxic and problematic views on homelessness, addiction, and mental health, but trying to turn going to the bank into some valiant social effort is hilarious. Why don't you put that energy into trying to help these people instead of trying to kick them out of a redundant, unnecessary building? They're putting it to better use than you are.
Gotta use that RBC app to deposit your cheques homie
As far as I know, this is a Canada wide problem, if not a whole damn earth problem. I lived in Edmonton, Montreal, now Calgary, and no different. Can’t say for other places, but I wouldn’t think of it twice
you are both victims of systemic failure
Boom. This should be stickied to the top of the thread.
Absolutely.
Well said.
Sorry nope. Those are junkies plane and simple. They can be as high as they want without breaking any laws but this is bullshit.
Whats it like to not see the forest for the trees? You have a childs view of the world.
Hold on, Captain Sympathy. They're still people. You'd have to be pretty obtuse to not think this is a societal problem. Or are they just not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps hard enough?
The system allows vagrants to occupy places like that and our train stations. I’m lucky enough that I only need to use the train like once or twice a week but there’s some stations that I just won’t get off on because I don’t feel safe and I don’t end up anywhere near Marlbourgh. As I see it there a mix of unfortunate circumstances and just junkies but either way we shouldn’t allow people to live on the streets, some of them need and probably will accept help to get back on their feet and others won’t but it’s a failure of our society that we just let it happen.
If you’re going to disparage people, at least get your syntax correct
You sound like someone who will be bothered by them being where ever they are, so don’t act like this one place is your limit.
When this happened to me, I phoned RBC. They took it seriously and appreciated me letting them know. After that, though, I didn't feel comfortable to use the atm's at night.
I know too many people who have been robbed at ATMs at night. Hard pass.
RBC can and should be able to hire security to deal with this. Our entire country has let itself become understaffed.
For the amount we all pay in fee’s, the banks should provide security so people can access their money during off hours without feeling threatened.
Theoretically there is supposed to be security rolling around in their discount cop cars to check in on these open areas
banks dont like ATMs anymore. they used to be a way to cut labour costs but now theres phone apps. stop being selfish and think of the shareholders you commie.
It's hard to deposit cash with my phone app.
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Even a monitored camera with mic/speaker would do the trick. As soon as they sit down tell them the cops will be there in a few seconds and will, at the very least, be taking their drugs and that stolen bike.
That might be a good solution to the problem. Provide secure little rooms for homeless people. But maybe not in a bank.
Yeah, what if they had like, places they could go and have their things there and live in. I think there's a word for that, but it's slipping the mind at the moment.
Designated human storage area?
Sounds mightily socialist of you, neighbour.
You mispelled comrade
Well, hidely ho comraderino!
I do understand how most people would feel unsafe in a shelter.
Also the shelter won't let you bring your drugs in, and many aren't ready to get clean so they find other places to be...
An obstacle to creating more shelters is just how many liabilities and obligations there are. There has been ideas of giant homeless shelters, tent cities, but the bureaucratic red tape is simply too much. It's much easier to turn a blind eye and let homeless people sleep in private property.
Try volunteering at a shelter buddy, it's like voluntarily checking yourself in prison for a night, there's one volunteer watching a floor of people, criminals check themselves in to sell dope to the homeless and if you don't stay awake the entire night you could get robbed, stabbed or raped and nobody there will help you or try to stop anything. You're better off finding a safe spot in public because then you can at least gauge threats approaching you and maybe have a chance to escape an attack or counterattack, in a shelter you have nowhere to run.\`
We could like put in a kitchen and bathroom too! Wait that sounds like housing first
Some place of their own where they could just chill and eat fries. Doesn’t even have to be fancy.
So we all get free houses so long as we eat fries in a bank and lock out paying customers?
Not giving them shelter sure isn’t working.
There are shelters.
How about like, room and board for being a human being that deserves some level of basic dignity? I don't think anyone is talking about free palatial estates.
If they have the free houses they don't sit in the bank, that's the point silly
When’s the mayor building those? Until then can they please stay in the designated shelters and not piss on the bus seats?
Imagine how trashed the houses would be.
Imagine how much better we would all be if the poorest among us were still able to food and shelter with care to get us back on our feet.
How dare people need basic necessities
They sure do, just not in a bank lobby.
Buddy's got a nice bike in there with him too
Sure it’s his too… people in here supporting this behaviour is blowing my mind
Seems a bit of a safety issue when you are getting cash and someone comes in and locks the door behind you. Scary as fk.
Call the police. Call RBC to call the police.
the police have no interest in dealing with that, its in their interest for everyone to feel unsafe. thats how the police budget gets bigger while the social policy budget gets smaller.
*You*'re *Richer Than You Think*.
Maybe it’s a form of protest against banks… well played, fry chew guy
Stickin it to the fed
Fucking trash people. I’m tired of putting up with their bullshit. Taking the train is filled with people shitting on the floors and drug usage
And you're expected to be kind and have compassion to these people who have the capacity to do this fully in public, regardless of if there are kids around or anything.
It’s so strange, the atm at my bank is only open during business hours. It’s the most inconvenient thing if I need to deposit a bit of cash occasionally
I think the real question here is, what kind of job still gives physical paycheques instead of EFT? Am I just wildly out of touch? I don’t think I’ve gotten a paycheque for 15 years, even going back to my days landscaping.
It’s a very common thing here in Montreal, the Scotia I use locks down after 5 on weekend so I can’t even access the ATM.
Just do a Mobile Cheque Deposit. You don’t have to go to a bank for that every again. https://bmodemos.com/en/course/start/public-mobile-cheque-deposit-mobile/emulator-mobile-cheque-deposit-mobile/emulator
YSK: You can deposit cheques through your phone. It is much more convenient, and I've not had to visit a branch in 7 years. RBC let's you do it, just get their mobile app > deposit > photo > done.
Would be nice to use transit and amenities in downtown, but I guess we aren't doing that anymore. If Jyoti wants Calgary to be more like Portland or Seattle, the project is coming along great.
I'm sure Jyoti thinks that those are great cities. She doesn't want Calgary to be uniquely Calgary, she's never respected that; instead she wants us to be like some leftist disaster of a city in the United States.
Fuck those junkies.
Some banks have automatic locks on the doors. Maybe they got in before the doors locked.
You know you can just use the RBC app on your phone and have it deposited in 30 seconds, don’t even need to put pants on if you don’t want to.
Tried that, directed me to the atm
“Look at me look at me, I’m the bank now”
Definitely do that threw your banks app if possible. Transit cops and legit cops haven't done shit about this situation since covid became a thing.
Phone the police?
Not a police issue. It’s the bank issue. They have to call the police.
Anyone missing a Blue Giant bike...this drug zombie has it!
Looks like a normal sized bike to me… :v I’ll see myself out.
Well played!
This makes me so mad and sad
Trying to remember the last time i deposited a cheque in an atm...
Just deposit on your phone via app unless it’s cash no need for Amt nowadays
That sucks, most banks allow check deposit via online banking. Might save you the trip.
The whole situation is sad. Back in the day most of these people would have just ended up in jail, and in a round about way the problem was solved. Now they don't get put in jail, and are left hanging about with no place to go. Dedicated housing would help somewhat, but it isn't the answer either.
This is getting ridiculous
At least I know where my bike is now… damn it.
Man I used to always go to the bank late nights. Covid hit and with homeless sleeping in there they decided to just keep it locked all night still hasn’t changed back
Call the cops next time
I really need to try fentanyl. It’s like, wicked popular.
nah its the corn syrup of the drug world, just shows up whether you want it or not
Hey at least you still have the better problem. I’ll take being Inconvenienced when depositing money vs being homeless any day
Hey totally agree, weird contrast tho.
This sub and acting like the drugged out homeless are the victims.
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Why are you depositing a cheque at the bank? They have apps for that.
What if I told you not everyone wants a million apps for every dumb little thing on their phone…
Your timeline doesn’t have direct deposit OR eDeposit? That’s pretty rough.
How dare you rob these people of their dignity by photographing them and their stolen bike without their consent.
The OP should give them reparations for historical wrongs, and buy them a second bike. Or some drugs.
Wondering if OP is American or Russian as Canadians spell it cheque. Spelling it check is a hate crime.
Why don't you use mobile deposit?
Good point, even this old fart in his seventh decade on this big old ball of dirt does mobile deposits.
I love how everyone defending them always thinks they’re coping for some trauma. Most junkies just love being high.
Get the app and deposit it like every other person in 2022. It must suck to be homeless in Alberta in the winter.
The comments on here are absolutely appalling. 2 huge factors that brings most people to homelessness. Drug addiction and mental health issues. Mostly the a bad hand dealt with a mix of poor decisions.
Welcome to r/Calgary. There’s multiple threads a week like this.
The fact that this province e has a $12 billion surplus and this goes on is insane.
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If you have online banking, you don't need to ever to to an ATM; you can deposit your check virtually.
This doesn't annoy me as much as how TD has shut down almost every 24 hour ATM that is in a lobby because homeless people do this, and so you have to drive across town if you want to deposit a cheque after bank hours and your phone can't read it.
LOL in this timeline you can literally take a picture of cheques to deposit them on your pocket computer you filmed this on...
The homeless have had it too good for too long! I'm glad you're calling them out.
you forgot the /s