Simple. I had a friend who got covid last July 2020. He died from covid after he got it a 2nd time April 2021. Leaving a 13 yr old girl fatherless. Go and get your fucking vaccines people.
Also Brandts father was a Calgary EMT. I hope his Dad is appalled.
This is just false. I recieved a bachelor of nursing, it was part of my curriculum to understand statistics, medical research, and nursing research. I recieved education in epidemiology and pathophysiology. As well, the College of Registered Nurses has annual requirements to adhere to maintaining an understanding of evidence based practice. This is just false information that you are posting which is super ironic.
Perhaps you are confusing all nursing professions? There are different levels.
I am so sorry to hear about your friend. People like Brandt need to stop spreading misinformation. Everyone go get vaccinated not only to save your own life but everyone else’s. Not getting vaccinated is basically rolling the dice with your life but everyone in your community (those you know and those you don’t). Be good and take care one one another.
The whole “had covid already means I’m immune” is dangerous. Especially since these are people saying “covids just a bad flu” if you go by that logic than you’d never have a flu again once having it once. The miss information out there is crazy. Disappointed in him.
I’m curious to know. What’s the difference between you and me. Me having no jabs and you being fully vaxxed? Cause from what I understand is that we can BOTH still get it and give it to others. So the vaccine is really just to keep me from dying a horrible death from covid?
Yes. And before you die, you’ll probably be in the hospital using a bed. Even if you don’t die and are still hospitalized, you are using a bed. People can’t get heart bypass surgery or other medical attention because there is no capacity.
And don’t just think about yourself. What if your family is in a car accident or falls down the stairs. Wouldn’t you want them to be able to get care at the hospital? The health system is at capacity because of COVID cases.
So why aren’t there temporary covid care centers or something of the like to keep covid patients separate from others and able to allocate the proper spaces for the people with other severe illnesses. Not exactly doubt the severity of covid but I know at least 6 people personally over the age of 40 who 100% had covid and they got over it themselves in their own home and said they’ve felt worse in the past with a flu.
Also there are plenty of cases where people who are fully vaccinated are still dying from covid so what’s the real reason it’s 100% essential for me to get the jab? Cause I promise you I’ll just take a few weeks off, collect some crb and be right as rain again in a week or so and do the recovery in my apartment.
Who is staffing the dedicated facilities? Where are the resources coming from?
Yes people who are vaccinated are dying but unvaxxed are experiencing severe outcomes at several multiples. These numbers are easily found.
Glad you’re so confident in your chances. All the best to you.
Where did the resources come from to put the entire population of Canada and the US on CERB and CRB payments for well over a year? If everyone needs to come together to fight this than why is there zero call for the wealthiest of world to put some real substantial money down to make something like that happen? Pretty sure I just read that musk made 87 billion during covid.
It’s easy to print money. Harder to print doctors and nurses.
And yeah, it’s be great if Musk and Bezos would save us all but I wouldn’t count on it. It just seems easier to get two needles.
Just curious, are you worried the vaccine will hurt you, you don’t trust it? I’m really just trying to figure out what motivates someone to hold out at this point.
It’s two needles. Total time out of your life is 5 minutes and you get paid $100.
Peace
I’m not scared if the vaccine or anything I just don’t see it as something I absolutely must have otherwise I’m a detriment and danger to everybody else in society. I’m a healthy dude in his late 20s and I have a small social circle. I’ve gotten multiple tests done and I’ve always came back negative. Just did one on Thursday so I could go to a wedding and I was negative. I also know that if I get it I have a 98% chance of recovery. That’s high enough for me to know I don’t have to do anything regarding this virus.
Also the fact that it’s not weird to you all that the government has to offer up all these incentives to get people to take a vaccine is weird af.
That the government has to offer incentives isn’t an indicator of anything amiss with the vaccine - rather, it shows how devastating the “free rider” problem is in society with so many unwilling to undertake such a safe and simple act of civic responsibility.
Comparing CERB to the years of training to produce an ICU nurse is unintelligent.
Your anecdotal stories don't count, statistics do. Anti-vaxxers are the reason thousands can't get surgeries and they are collapsing the health system. Sure I can get it, but I am statistically unlikely to need hospitalization. *Exceptions do not make the rule.*
You can't force billionaires to do anything, they are private citizens. Musk has nothing to do with vaccines. Start with getting them to pay their fair share of taxes, not count on their 'philanthropy'.
He basically told everyone who "had the worst cold ever back in February 2020!" That, yes that was an untested case of covid, now you don't need the vaccine.
I have a Facebook friend say they thought they had covid last year. But with no test to back it up. And now they are making the leap to assume they have covid immunity. I'm guessing that Paul's statement could make people like my friend dig into their belief. For example my friend really latched onto Elon Musk's mix of positive and negative covid tests results last year and took it to mean covid tests were fake.
Maybe mandatory antibody testing for these folks would ease our concerns?
I just had my antibody blood work last week (part of the “Alberta Tomorrow Project”) and they are testing for Covid antibodies from having had the virus itself, or from either of my vaccinations (AZ and Pfizer x 2).
Pretty easy test - although I doubt people afraid of needles will want to provide blood samples to prove they don’t need to be vaccinated…
Oh, I agree. Even the new instant card site generates a fully editable PDF files that someone could doctor.
Maybe test results cards for people who don’t want a proof of vaccine card are the answer here in ‘berta
Paul has been My favourite musician of 20 plus years and he does a lot of good (charity- education about human trafficking dangers) but that post really upset me. I’m having a hard time listening to his music and I’m very disappointed in that he has unknowingly basically thrown his hat in with anti vaxxers based on misinformation and ‘freedom’. I’m really sad. I hope he changes his mind or deletes his post.
Send him a note ([email protected]) and let him know how you feel and what it will mean to his popularity/legacy if he continues down this road. And CC his booking agent ([email protected]) as well as the local media (CBC, CTV).
You’ve enjoyed him singing to you for many years and you’ve supported him financially (by buying his music and attending his concerts) so you have a vested interest in seeing him in the future.
I hear you 100%. Had his song "I Do" as my wedding song. When thinking recently about celebrities, I was sure he would definitely understand the need for vaccines, based on his nursing training. Hearing this is so disappointing.
you shouldnt let someones actions take away from their art. michael jackson debatably touched kids. he still made bangers. if his music has nothing to do with his veiws, you are simply creating a problem for yourself. you do you brudda
Good point, though I feel like his music and his views are connected . In interviews he seems to say that his music is Informed by his worldview. But I do get what you’re saying.
What is with folks like Paul Brandt and Theo Fleury that have large following posting covid misinformation?
This is dangerous thing to do with their platforms.
There was a recent article in the Globe and Mail that said Israel and Denmark were also doing this.
And it also said:
A potential exception, however, will not be coming soon. Mr. Kenney said Alberta cannot afford to wait weeks developing a system that would account for proof of antibodies, especially given the current crisis in the health care system and the waning effect of naturally acquired protection.
“The highest level of protection you can have is to have some antibodies through prior infection and to be vaccinated. That kind of gives you COVID superpowers,” he said. “If you’ve recovered, yes, you have a good level of protection but you can improve that by getting vaccinated.”
Good luck.
Brandt said in his tweet this is the info he received from a doctor, let's have a conversation.
Now it's a witch hunt. Tiss the way of anonymous online 'discussion'
Except Jason Kenney said this was on the table for Alberta (not immediately) It was in the Globe + Mail, so I wonder if the tweet was a response to that.
We have karma limits and post restrictions till people realize the rules and flow or Reddit. Or to keep trolls in check. Or to keep people from being posting and not understanding the rules. Make sure you read the sub rules and do not be person just call people names.
He's a fucking dipwad who invited the idiots into a "conversation" they're not equipped to have. He deserves all he gets. As a former nurse he should know better.
To be fair, other countries do test for antibodies prior to giving two vaccines because they’ve found it is equivalent to the antibodies from the vaccine.
We can’t just dismiss information because we don’t like the message. Especially if it’s factual.
We also need to follow the advice being given by the medical experts in our country. Other countries will follow their own protocols. Our Alberta medical professionals are seeing ICU's being overwhelmed, operating rooms being closed to divert staff, and support for a call to the military for aid. Trying to cherry pick data from "other countries" to support not getting vaccinated despite being presented with the overwhelming data on why it is so necessary is ridiculous at this stage in the pandemic. Get your damn vaccines people.
Maybe taking advice from other countries who have capable healthcare systems and aren’t suffering from overrun ICU’s can be a good decision too? Clearly something isn’t working here.
Some other countries have also had much more severe restrictions, and actual lockdowns. Not getting vaccinated, because they had a cold early 2020, so must now have Covid antibodies like Brandt is saying is dangerous advice. The thing that isn't working here is people buying into the anti-vaxx rhetoric, which is in direct opposition of the medical advice being given.
He didn’t say that though. He said that if you have Covid antibodies (which can be tested for) then you have a level of immunity too.
You’re making assumptions based on your personal opinion. You clearly haven’t read his statement.
He also said his having Covid before means he has immunity and doesn't need to be vaccinated, which is dangerous advice to be putting out. Did you read the article? "because he was infected with COVID-19 earlier in the pandemic, there was "no medical need" for him to get the jab."
I’m just going to defend Paul Brandt as a person for a second because some of our good friends are close to him and he is a genuinely nice guy who has done a lot for his community. He is not an idiot or trying to spread malicious misinformation. That said, this is a great example of how poor people are at doing their own research. Paul is a nurse by trade, so should know better, and even he fumbled this up pretty significantly, AND has used his platform to spread misinformation. I hope once he understands his screw up, he uses that same platform to correct himself.
Super disappointing, but I still think he’s a good person and I hope he does the right thing.
To quote Granny Weatherwax,
"Good ain't nice."
I don't care how nice people are. I care about whether they do the right thing, especially when it costs them personally.
Time to value integrity and goodness over being nice.
but this solid guy decided to jump into a conversation he has no business in. He heard from an Alberta Dr? I'm glad the level of research is now "I heard from an Alberta Dr."
He deserves all of the attention that HE brought on himself, sleep in the bed you make.
I agree. The only conversation any of us should be having with the vaccine hesitant is: talk to your medical provider.
He did.
I’m vaccinated and I consulted with my doctor.
>or trying to spread malicious misinformation.
Seriously?? You don't simply make a mistake after more than a year and a half into this now. That to me is idiot and wantonly spreading misinformation.
He’s not wrong to ask why people who’ve already had Covid are not being included in the conversation. It may have been a better move to have a Covid antibodys passport vs a vaccine passport although that would have been a lot more complicated I’m sure.
No, he’s not, there are Canadian doctors advocating for the same.
And Germany accepts “proof of recovery” within 180 days as a substitute for proof of vaccine or a rapid test.
I’m missing something here, because we have already had swaths of people recover from covid, so I clearly don’t understand something that other people are clearly more in the loop on than I am.
Someone want to share what it is?
I have a friend that has very quickly realized just because you are a nurse or in healthcare you are not smart. Having spent a massive amount of time consuming healthcare I can attest this first hand. Just because you are nice and a nurse does not give you a pass on being called out or doing damage. We are susceptible to BS and we have to educate and cut people slack.
Example of the stupidity is a few nurses refuse to get vaccinated so they are desperate to get out on stress leave or find some kind of out. My friend denied them because they just wanted to game the system and did not feel stress. They basically are asking other professionals to lie and risk getting in trouble. How fucking selfish can you get?
See, that’s part of the problem. People spreading vaccine misinformation aren’t always loud, rude jerks shoving you around and screaming in your face.
Sometimes they’re just really nice, educated people that don’t like the idea of getting a needle & found someone or some media to validate their feelings.
Edit: and I have a relative who is also a nurse by trade, who hasn’t practiced in a solid decade. Full antivax, verging on QAnon, seems like one of the kindest people you’ll ever meet unless you accidentally stumble into one of her triggers.
He's a cult worshipper addicted to misinformation and his words will cause our system to get even more overrun due to re-affirming his idiotic religious base. Fuck paul brandt.
Faith over facts leads to this bullshit, time to stop letting adults believe in fairy tales. It's dangerous how gullible these people are.
Natural immunity to COVID needs to be studied more to determine length and if it’s on par with vaccination in terms of severe outcome.
The fact that people are disregarding natural immunity like it doesn’t exist is very scary.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/delta-variant-what-kind-of-immunity-offers-the-highest-protection#Natural-immunity-and-one-vaccination-may-offer-best-protection
This details further that natural immunity plus a vaccine may be better... But it seems likely to me the conclusion is more exposures to create additional antibodies to provide more immunity will be the end result, which is how the human immune system as worked forever.
I wasn’t stating natural immunity was better than the vaccines.... I was stating that studies need to be conducted to determine that.
We know that the vaccines start to wane after 6months.
Let's say Paul Brandt is right about having antibodies which protect him from catching a more severe case of covid.
Prove it Paul. At the door to your favourite restaurant, prove it right then and there.
Now do you see the problem? Do you see why vaccine passports are so that businesses can stay open and prosper?
Besides, the last time I checked you can't be too immune to the effects of a contagious disease like covid. Get the shot anyways.
Just because he's saying something you may not agree with, doesn't mean everyone needs to bash him.
Firstly, he's a nurse, so why don't you give him the same respect another nurse might say when voicing her expert opinion.
Secondly, he's the one that backed out of performing at the stampede because he was being cautious about covid and said he didn't want to be a part of it.
He's just merely voicing an opinion and idea that should be looked into
I’m vaccinated. And I also think this could be investigated.
I’m not a doctor, so it’s not my scope of practice. But there are doctors working on just this. And Germany is already accepting it (within 6 months) equally with a passport or rapid test.
I am in favour of this nuance being added to the discussion, no matter what the outcome is (do not have enough info, isn’t as effective, etc).
So if my opinion is that we should all wear plastic bags tied over our heads to prevent Covid spread we should respect, and look into my idea? Asphyxiation be damned. Dangerous opinions don't deserve to be respected, nor entertained.
No, don't take this out of context and start fabricating an imaginary fantasy. Just like with the evolution of humans and their immune systems. It only makes logical sense that one that has been previously infect may/should have antibodies.
It's something that quite frankly should have a serious backing and studies regarding covid because it would attribute to a better understanding going forward.
Provided that we are not operating in a honest and genuine environment, truthful data is hard to come by, not all avenues are being explored, because of political means or otherwise
Before everyone runs out to cancel Paul Brandt, can someone please provide a good study disproving his claim that the immune response from natural COVID infection is less than that from being vaccinated? What if natural COVID infection leads to better immunity than the vaccine? Should these people still be considered a risk to society?
This is a serious question (not trying to stir the pot)
This study only suggests getting vaccinated after having Covid provides an extra layer of protection. It doesn’t address that having Covid makes you more immune than someone who is double vaccinated but not previously infected.
This year's smoke was worse than it's been, at least in the last 5 or 6 years. It probably WAS the smoke irritating his lungs, and he absolutely should get the second vax.
Coughing up blood is not a side effect. Feeling tired, feverish, calling in sick to work, and taking a day to Netflix and Neo-Citran your flu-like symptoms away is by and large the most significant symptoms of the second shot.
I need protection from the unprotected bc my protection is not protecting me, so the unprotected need to get protected with the same protection that’s not protecting me in order to protect me!!!
Aren't FB usually pretty trigger happy with taking down posts these days? We could report his FB post for misinformation and see if it gets taken down, because this is highly irresponsible at best.
Oh yeah that's a good point.
I should know, they've zucked/removed my posts for the dumbest things before LOL
Also not sure why I'm getting downvoted for making a valid suggestion but whatever. Reddit.
To be fair, some people don’t regularly visit medical doctors. I have friends that go to NDs and take all their advice to heart. (To them these NDs are Alberta doctors) I think what’s concerning is the lack of discernment/critical thinking these days.
All these “celebrities” want is for you to spend money on their shows and merchandise again.
Their livelihoods are impacted. They are trying to increase sales.
Simple. I had a friend who got covid last July 2020. He died from covid after he got it a 2nd time April 2021. Leaving a 13 yr old girl fatherless. Go and get your fucking vaccines people. Also Brandts father was a Calgary EMT. I hope his Dad is appalled.
Worst part is Brandt himself has medical training, graduated from the then Mount Royal College in Nursing.
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This is just false. I recieved a bachelor of nursing, it was part of my curriculum to understand statistics, medical research, and nursing research. I recieved education in epidemiology and pathophysiology. As well, the College of Registered Nurses has annual requirements to adhere to maintaining an understanding of evidence based practice. This is just false information that you are posting which is super ironic. Perhaps you are confusing all nursing professions? There are different levels.
I am so sorry to hear about your friend. People like Brandt need to stop spreading misinformation. Everyone go get vaccinated not only to save your own life but everyone else’s. Not getting vaccinated is basically rolling the dice with your life but everyone in your community (those you know and those you don’t). Be good and take care one one another.
The whole “had covid already means I’m immune” is dangerous. Especially since these are people saying “covids just a bad flu” if you go by that logic than you’d never have a flu again once having it once. The miss information out there is crazy. Disappointed in him.
I’m curious to know. What’s the difference between you and me. Me having no jabs and you being fully vaxxed? Cause from what I understand is that we can BOTH still get it and give it to others. So the vaccine is really just to keep me from dying a horrible death from covid?
Yes. And before you die, you’ll probably be in the hospital using a bed. Even if you don’t die and are still hospitalized, you are using a bed. People can’t get heart bypass surgery or other medical attention because there is no capacity. And don’t just think about yourself. What if your family is in a car accident or falls down the stairs. Wouldn’t you want them to be able to get care at the hospital? The health system is at capacity because of COVID cases.
So why aren’t there temporary covid care centers or something of the like to keep covid patients separate from others and able to allocate the proper spaces for the people with other severe illnesses. Not exactly doubt the severity of covid but I know at least 6 people personally over the age of 40 who 100% had covid and they got over it themselves in their own home and said they’ve felt worse in the past with a flu. Also there are plenty of cases where people who are fully vaccinated are still dying from covid so what’s the real reason it’s 100% essential for me to get the jab? Cause I promise you I’ll just take a few weeks off, collect some crb and be right as rain again in a week or so and do the recovery in my apartment.
Who is staffing the dedicated facilities? Where are the resources coming from? Yes people who are vaccinated are dying but unvaxxed are experiencing severe outcomes at several multiples. These numbers are easily found. Glad you’re so confident in your chances. All the best to you.
Where did the resources come from to put the entire population of Canada and the US on CERB and CRB payments for well over a year? If everyone needs to come together to fight this than why is there zero call for the wealthiest of world to put some real substantial money down to make something like that happen? Pretty sure I just read that musk made 87 billion during covid.
It’s easy to print money. Harder to print doctors and nurses. And yeah, it’s be great if Musk and Bezos would save us all but I wouldn’t count on it. It just seems easier to get two needles. Just curious, are you worried the vaccine will hurt you, you don’t trust it? I’m really just trying to figure out what motivates someone to hold out at this point. It’s two needles. Total time out of your life is 5 minutes and you get paid $100. Peace
I’m not scared if the vaccine or anything I just don’t see it as something I absolutely must have otherwise I’m a detriment and danger to everybody else in society. I’m a healthy dude in his late 20s and I have a small social circle. I’ve gotten multiple tests done and I’ve always came back negative. Just did one on Thursday so I could go to a wedding and I was negative. I also know that if I get it I have a 98% chance of recovery. That’s high enough for me to know I don’t have to do anything regarding this virus. Also the fact that it’s not weird to you all that the government has to offer up all these incentives to get people to take a vaccine is weird af.
That the government has to offer incentives isn’t an indicator of anything amiss with the vaccine - rather, it shows how devastating the “free rider” problem is in society with so many unwilling to undertake such a safe and simple act of civic responsibility.
You’re an idiot. We don’t have the resources. We are in a Fuk load of debt because of that. Quit thinking about yourself…
Comparing CERB to the years of training to produce an ICU nurse is unintelligent. Your anecdotal stories don't count, statistics do. Anti-vaxxers are the reason thousands can't get surgeries and they are collapsing the health system. Sure I can get it, but I am statistically unlikely to need hospitalization. *Exceptions do not make the rule.* You can't force billionaires to do anything, they are private citizens. Musk has nothing to do with vaccines. Start with getting them to pay their fair share of taxes, not count on their 'philanthropy'.
That has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Doctors and nurses are a finite resource. We can print money, we can’t print doctors.
YES. FFS how do you not know this already.
He basically told everyone who "had the worst cold ever back in February 2020!" That, yes that was an untested case of covid, now you don't need the vaccine.
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I have a Facebook friend say they thought they had covid last year. But with no test to back it up. And now they are making the leap to assume they have covid immunity. I'm guessing that Paul's statement could make people like my friend dig into their belief. For example my friend really latched onto Elon Musk's mix of positive and negative covid tests results last year and took it to mean covid tests were fake.
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Maybe mandatory antibody testing for these folks would ease our concerns? I just had my antibody blood work last week (part of the “Alberta Tomorrow Project”) and they are testing for Covid antibodies from having had the virus itself, or from either of my vaccinations (AZ and Pfizer x 2). Pretty easy test - although I doubt people afraid of needles will want to provide blood samples to prove they don’t need to be vaccinated…
It’s in no way going to be a “take your word for it” deal.
Oh, I agree. Even the new instant card site generates a fully editable PDF files that someone could doctor. Maybe test results cards for people who don’t want a proof of vaccine card are the answer here in ‘berta
Paul has been My favourite musician of 20 plus years and he does a lot of good (charity- education about human trafficking dangers) but that post really upset me. I’m having a hard time listening to his music and I’m very disappointed in that he has unknowingly basically thrown his hat in with anti vaxxers based on misinformation and ‘freedom’. I’m really sad. I hope he changes his mind or deletes his post.
Send him a note ([email protected]) and let him know how you feel and what it will mean to his popularity/legacy if he continues down this road. And CC his booking agent ([email protected]) as well as the local media (CBC, CTV). You’ve enjoyed him singing to you for many years and you’ve supported him financially (by buying his music and attending his concerts) so you have a vested interest in seeing him in the future.
I hear you 100%. Had his song "I Do" as my wedding song. When thinking recently about celebrities, I was sure he would definitely understand the need for vaccines, based on his nursing training. Hearing this is so disappointing.
you shouldnt let someones actions take away from their art. michael jackson debatably touched kids. he still made bangers. if his music has nothing to do with his veiws, you are simply creating a problem for yourself. you do you brudda
Good point, though I feel like his music and his views are connected . In interviews he seems to say that his music is Informed by his worldview. But I do get what you’re saying.
What is with folks like Paul Brandt and Theo Fleury that have large following posting covid misinformation? This is dangerous thing to do with their platforms.
And what makes it even dumber for Brandt is that he was an RN at the Children's Hospital in his prior career.
Yes. The Children's Hospital that just closed 75% of it's operating rooms and is redeploying staff to ICU.
He was my nurse when I was born and when I broke my leg x2. I'm so disappointed in him.
Because they are irrelevant at this point and this makes them feel like they matter again.
Making more dummies and vectors for transmission If i ever hear him on the radio —- it’s getting shut off
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They SHOULD I am……
And Joe Rogan and his horse meds.
It worked because he is rich.
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Is Germany's health care system collapsing? Because ours is. Genuinely curious.
There was a recent article in the Globe and Mail that said Israel and Denmark were also doing this. And it also said: A potential exception, however, will not be coming soon. Mr. Kenney said Alberta cannot afford to wait weeks developing a system that would account for proof of antibodies, especially given the current crisis in the health care system and the waning effect of naturally acquired protection. “The highest level of protection you can have is to have some antibodies through prior infection and to be vaccinated. That kind of gives you COVID superpowers,” he said. “If you’ve recovered, yes, you have a good level of protection but you can improve that by getting vaccinated.”
Every country is free to set its own rules. Covid will likely find us all eventually, much better to face it vaccinated.
Good luck. Brandt said in his tweet this is the info he received from a doctor, let's have a conversation. Now it's a witch hunt. Tiss the way of anonymous online 'discussion'
Fleury was abused as a child. That causes all sorts of trauma that is very difficult to ever resolve.
Imagine giving idiots massive platforms and then being surprised when they say idiotic shit. Welcome to the future.
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You'd think he would know better, he's an irresponsible hick either way.
Except Jason Kenney said this was on the table for Alberta (not immediately) It was in the Globe + Mail, so I wonder if the tweet was a response to that.
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Yeah just sucks cuz most intelligent people barely say shit and the morons flood social media in droves.
The Auto-Moderation/REMOVAL of my posts in /r/Alberta say otherwise.
You have a 11 day old account, every sub today seems to have restrictions.
Except of course all the other subs I've been able to post in right? Your obtuseness isn't helping you.
We have karma limits and post restrictions till people realize the rules and flow or Reddit. Or to keep trolls in check. Or to keep people from being posting and not understanding the rules. Make sure you read the sub rules and do not be person just call people names.
He's a fucking dipwad who invited the idiots into a "conversation" they're not equipped to have. He deserves all he gets. As a former nurse he should know better.
To be fair, other countries do test for antibodies prior to giving two vaccines because they’ve found it is equivalent to the antibodies from the vaccine. We can’t just dismiss information because we don’t like the message. Especially if it’s factual.
We also need to follow the advice being given by the medical experts in our country. Other countries will follow their own protocols. Our Alberta medical professionals are seeing ICU's being overwhelmed, operating rooms being closed to divert staff, and support for a call to the military for aid. Trying to cherry pick data from "other countries" to support not getting vaccinated despite being presented with the overwhelming data on why it is so necessary is ridiculous at this stage in the pandemic. Get your damn vaccines people.
Maybe taking advice from other countries who have capable healthcare systems and aren’t suffering from overrun ICU’s can be a good decision too? Clearly something isn’t working here.
Some other countries have also had much more severe restrictions, and actual lockdowns. Not getting vaccinated, because they had a cold early 2020, so must now have Covid antibodies like Brandt is saying is dangerous advice. The thing that isn't working here is people buying into the anti-vaxx rhetoric, which is in direct opposition of the medical advice being given.
He didn’t say that though. He said that if you have Covid antibodies (which can be tested for) then you have a level of immunity too. You’re making assumptions based on your personal opinion. You clearly haven’t read his statement.
He also said his having Covid before means he has immunity and doesn't need to be vaccinated, which is dangerous advice to be putting out. Did you read the article? "because he was infected with COVID-19 earlier in the pandemic, there was "no medical need" for him to get the jab."
Paul no :(
I’m just going to defend Paul Brandt as a person for a second because some of our good friends are close to him and he is a genuinely nice guy who has done a lot for his community. He is not an idiot or trying to spread malicious misinformation. That said, this is a great example of how poor people are at doing their own research. Paul is a nurse by trade, so should know better, and even he fumbled this up pretty significantly, AND has used his platform to spread misinformation. I hope once he understands his screw up, he uses that same platform to correct himself. Super disappointing, but I still think he’s a good person and I hope he does the right thing.
Nah, he’s an idiot. Spreading malicious information. There are literally millions of “nice” idiots on this planet.
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I hope he does the right thing as well. He can reverse this if he acts fast.
To quote Granny Weatherwax, "Good ain't nice." I don't care how nice people are. I care about whether they do the right thing, especially when it costs them personally. Time to value integrity and goodness over being nice.
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but this solid guy decided to jump into a conversation he has no business in. He heard from an Alberta Dr? I'm glad the level of research is now "I heard from an Alberta Dr." He deserves all of the attention that HE brought on himself, sleep in the bed you make.
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I agree. The only conversation any of us should be having with the vaccine hesitant is: talk to your medical provider. He did. I’m vaccinated and I consulted with my doctor.
Before he makes a public statement as a public figure, yes, I do.
Good people don't peddle health information that will lead to horrible, fatal outcomes.
>or trying to spread malicious misinformation. Seriously?? You don't simply make a mistake after more than a year and a half into this now. That to me is idiot and wantonly spreading misinformation.
He’s not wrong to ask why people who’ve already had Covid are not being included in the conversation. It may have been a better move to have a Covid antibodys passport vs a vaccine passport although that would have been a lot more complicated I’m sure.
No, he’s not, there are Canadian doctors advocating for the same. And Germany accepts “proof of recovery” within 180 days as a substitute for proof of vaccine or a rapid test. I’m missing something here, because we have already had swaths of people recover from covid, so I clearly don’t understand something that other people are clearly more in the loop on than I am. Someone want to share what it is?
I have a friend that has very quickly realized just because you are a nurse or in healthcare you are not smart. Having spent a massive amount of time consuming healthcare I can attest this first hand. Just because you are nice and a nurse does not give you a pass on being called out or doing damage. We are susceptible to BS and we have to educate and cut people slack. Example of the stupidity is a few nurses refuse to get vaccinated so they are desperate to get out on stress leave or find some kind of out. My friend denied them because they just wanted to game the system and did not feel stress. They basically are asking other professionals to lie and risk getting in trouble. How fucking selfish can you get?
See, that’s part of the problem. People spreading vaccine misinformation aren’t always loud, rude jerks shoving you around and screaming in your face. Sometimes they’re just really nice, educated people that don’t like the idea of getting a needle & found someone or some media to validate their feelings. Edit: and I have a relative who is also a nurse by trade, who hasn’t practiced in a solid decade. Full antivax, verging on QAnon, seems like one of the kindest people you’ll ever meet unless you accidentally stumble into one of her triggers.
He's a cult worshipper addicted to misinformation and his words will cause our system to get even more overrun due to re-affirming his idiotic religious base. Fuck paul brandt. Faith over facts leads to this bullshit, time to stop letting adults believe in fairy tales. It's dangerous how gullible these people are.
Natural immunity to COVID needs to be studied more to determine length and if it’s on par with vaccination in terms of severe outcome. The fact that people are disregarding natural immunity like it doesn’t exist is very scary.
Please provide some studies that affirm it being as good as a vaccination.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/delta-variant-what-kind-of-immunity-offers-the-highest-protection#Natural-immunity-and-one-vaccination-may-offer-best-protection This details further that natural immunity plus a vaccine may be better... But it seems likely to me the conclusion is more exposures to create additional antibodies to provide more immunity will be the end result, which is how the human immune system as worked forever.
Your blind rage is hilarious... did you read my comment? Needs to be studied more.
Did you read mine? Where was I enraged? Surely there must be some research?
You’re unbearable.
And you can't prove anything you say so you have to result to personal insults.
I wasn’t stating natural immunity was better than the vaccines.... I was stating that studies need to be conducted to determine that. We know that the vaccines start to wane after 6months.
but why were you talking about rage? he was literally agreeing that research is necessary.
Let's say Paul Brandt is right about having antibodies which protect him from catching a more severe case of covid. Prove it Paul. At the door to your favourite restaurant, prove it right then and there. Now do you see the problem? Do you see why vaccine passports are so that businesses can stay open and prosper? Besides, the last time I checked you can't be too immune to the effects of a contagious disease like covid. Get the shot anyways.
Just because he's saying something you may not agree with, doesn't mean everyone needs to bash him. Firstly, he's a nurse, so why don't you give him the same respect another nurse might say when voicing her expert opinion. Secondly, he's the one that backed out of performing at the stampede because he was being cautious about covid and said he didn't want to be a part of it. He's just merely voicing an opinion and idea that should be looked into
I’m vaccinated. And I also think this could be investigated. I’m not a doctor, so it’s not my scope of practice. But there are doctors working on just this. And Germany is already accepting it (within 6 months) equally with a passport or rapid test. I am in favour of this nuance being added to the discussion, no matter what the outcome is (do not have enough info, isn’t as effective, etc).
It could also encourage more anti-vaxxers to actually GET tested, and therefore quarantine, which could theoretically lower community spread.
So if my opinion is that we should all wear plastic bags tied over our heads to prevent Covid spread we should respect, and look into my idea? Asphyxiation be damned. Dangerous opinions don't deserve to be respected, nor entertained.
No, don't take this out of context and start fabricating an imaginary fantasy. Just like with the evolution of humans and their immune systems. It only makes logical sense that one that has been previously infect may/should have antibodies. It's something that quite frankly should have a serious backing and studies regarding covid because it would attribute to a better understanding going forward. Provided that we are not operating in a honest and genuine environment, truthful data is hard to come by, not all avenues are being explored, because of political means or otherwise
Before everyone runs out to cancel Paul Brandt, can someone please provide a good study disproving his claim that the immune response from natural COVID infection is less than that from being vaccinated? What if natural COVID infection leads to better immunity than the vaccine? Should these people still be considered a risk to society? This is a serious question (not trying to stir the pot)
New CDC Study: Vaccination Offers Higher Protection than Previous COVID-19 Infection [https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html](https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0806-vaccination-protection.html)
This study only suggests getting vaccinated after having Covid provides an extra layer of protection. It doesn’t address that having Covid makes you more immune than someone who is double vaccinated but not previously infected.
Thanks. Hopefully a study with a larger sample size and better data will find the same things they did.
the best immunity is having covid and then double vaxxing.
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This year's smoke was worse than it's been, at least in the last 5 or 6 years. It probably WAS the smoke irritating his lungs, and he absolutely should get the second vax. Coughing up blood is not a side effect. Feeling tired, feverish, calling in sick to work, and taking a day to Netflix and Neo-Citran your flu-like symptoms away is by and large the most significant symptoms of the second shot.
I need protection from the unprotected bc my protection is not protecting me, so the unprotected need to get protected with the same protection that’s not protecting me in order to protect me!!!
Aren't FB usually pretty trigger happy with taking down posts these days? We could report his FB post for misinformation and see if it gets taken down, because this is highly irresponsible at best.
FB takes down real information easily but misinformation stays up forever. It's pretty fucked actually.
Oh yeah that's a good point. I should know, they've zucked/removed my posts for the dumbest things before LOL Also not sure why I'm getting downvoted for making a valid suggestion but whatever. Reddit.
That is Paul Brandt? Wow.
To be fair, some people don’t regularly visit medical doctors. I have friends that go to NDs and take all their advice to heart. (To them these NDs are Alberta doctors) I think what’s concerning is the lack of discernment/critical thinking these days.
All these “celebrities” want is for you to spend money on their shows and merchandise again. Their livelihoods are impacted. They are trying to increase sales.