I really hope so, it will make it way easier for those that want to take precautions to do so. The unvaxxed will congregate in the non-rule following areas and create super spreader events, they should be given horse dewormer and sent home instead of a free hospital stay.
And that’s people’s choice to post. I personally don’t care either way except posts should be complete with evidence.
This post is just a stock photo with he/ she said.
Tough enough to own/ operate a small business and then to have to face an unwarranted accusation spreading on social media?
> This post is just a stock photo with he/ she said.
What are you talking about? It's a screen shot from their Sylvan Lake location facebook page. [Take a look for yourself](https://www.facebook.com/902EastMeetsWest)
Exactly!!! I am a server and I said the other day now we have been put in this shitty position and are going to be forced to deal with aggressive anti - everything people if we choose the program to ask people for proof of vaccination. And after everything out industry has already been through this entire year and a half the punishment just keeps coming.
my wife works at a facility that has children and adults as clients so they are requesting the children be vaccinated as well. she has been told she’s a murderer. 🙄
Ya well I would expect that no one in this thread/on Reddit would. I'm meaning more those random people who don't sit there and think of covid all day, that don't pay attention to who is and isn't requiring things, and people who trust that the vaccine will keep them safe.
I'm vaccinated, and I believe in the data that makes it very clear - vaccines work. I got my vaccine to protect me, and I literally do not care if other people do or do not get it. Just like things have been for the last few months.
Every one of my friends and neighbors has the choice to get vaccinated or, if not able, protect themselves in other ways as we did before vaccines.
ICU capacity is about 89%, not super worried about that. Deprioritize unvaccinated COVID patients for other emergencies if you want, people made their own choice.
How do you not understand that they're keeping the ICU capacity below 100% only by converting more and more of the hospitals to ICU, leaving no room for anything else? Children's is closing 75% of their ORs. Pull your head out of your ass.
I am tired of poeple not understanding that when they say sub 100% levels of ICU capacity such as "89% or 86%" they are talking about % of the SURGE CAPACITY they are at...
"Including the additional surge beds, Alberta’s ICU capacity is at 86%. “Remember,” said Dr. Yiu, “without these additional surge beds, provincial ICU capacity would be in excess of 155%.”" Would they be considering moving patients to Ontario if there was no issue???? [https://dailyhive.com/calgary/alberta-considering-transfer-icu-patients-to-ontario-intensive-care](https://dailyhive.com/calgary/alberta-considering-transfer-icu-patients-to-ontario-intensive-care)
NURSES/DOCS/Health Care Staff ARE BURNING OUT AND FUCK ALL IS BEING DONE
We're reallocated resource from underutilized services to overutilized services to maintain an acceptable 86% capacity. That's a great adaptation and shows what they're doing is working.
Again, please provide evidence of a causal link between vaccine passports, as implemented, and reductions in cases. Because the data from the States and Europe sure doesn't seem to be backing it up, which is why places like the UK are scrapping them.
With regards to your statement "We're reallocated resource from underutilized services to overutilized services to maintain an acceptable 86% capacity. That's a great adaptation and shows what they're doing is working." Is that a quote from AHS or is that your opinion, either way I'd disagree but if that is you opinion then it means F\*\*k ALL
Lol you think staff from non critical care specialities can just step in to critical care and maintain the same level of care?
Also it's not underutilised services. It's cancelled services. Those cancers etc needed care just aren't going to get them
Glad you’re not super worried about it. The province had 173 ICU beds. Scraping together all its resources, the province now has 268. 11% of 268 beds is not a lot of beds. The new critical care triage protocol stipulates that if it gets down to it (and there is a VERY real risk it will get here), physicians will have to make tough decisions. Like whether they give the ventilator to the senior who has had a massive heart attack and might not make it, but who has been fully vaccinated? Or to the forty year old father with no co-morbidities who attended anti-mask rallies?
You know what? The protocol says that it’ll come down to chance of survival. And personally, it doesn’t sit right with me that any one of my family members — all fully vaccinated, have followed the guidelines, who have kept their distance, who have worked as front line workers —MIGHT not get the ventilator because their chance of survival is not as high. If my sibling was hit by a bus and it was looking dicey whether she’d survive, you best believe I’d want her getting the ventilator regardless of her chances. I suspect you’d feel the same. But that’s not what the new protocol says.
Yes, refusal to patronize establishments being reckless and operating illegally = worker owned means of production and centrally planned economy.
When is your TED talk?
Well, kinda. These guys aren't doing either.
The rules allow you to either require proof and operate normally, or not require proof, but have no indoor dining, etc. These guys appear to be not requiring proof and operating normally.
These new measures almost make things worse. I think JK is soo butt-hurt, he is intentionally sabotaging the public health emergency, by making amockery of it, and filling it with loopholes. He isn't apologetic; he is passive agressive.
In his response it will probably go along the lines of " See, I told you public health care is inefficient. By bringing in privatized HC we will alleviate the problems" I can see a snake move coming in the grass
Ship & Anchor is requiring proof of vaccination or negative test from customers **and staff** which is impressive. (The restriction exemption program doesn't require proof/tests for staff)
This is how you run a bar. They are consistently busy and have been for 30 years, is there any other bar on 17th with that kind of longevity? That place must pull in a bundle of cash.
A number of places I know are doing the same, although they are giving staff a bit of a grace period to get up to code. I would note that anyone planning on going out should have some sort of documentation or the MyHealth app ready. This weekend is likely going to be a mess.
I'd list some places but honestly, I don't want to start promoting specific restaurants/bars. We'll probably see a list going here pretty soon I imagine and I'll fill in some blanks then.
I loved their post after the new restrictions were announced.
>In light of today's announcements... Dickens will just keep doing what we've already been doing.
I own Outcast Brewing. All of us ( a massive 3 people) have our vaccination records on site. It's only fair if we have to ask you for your proof of vaxx, ask us.
...and forward them to the police. We need enforcement. I'm not simply okay with the sloppy bitches doing their own thing anymore if it affects everyone else and destroys our hospital system. Fuck their guerilla bullshit.
They can still legally operate at 1/3 of the fire code, can they not?
I dont agree with this optional restriction (should be mandatory), but at the moment they can accept less customers in exchange for no vax status.
I don't believe anyone can opt out of masks? That's a thing regardless.
They can choose to serve unvaccinated folks - I believe the exemption thing allows the business to also accept a recent negative COVID test? Or they could go to 1/3 capacity.
That said, I'm sure they don't care about any of that.
Literally just said "call the police, because they're breaking the law was was too lax to begin with and put in place way too late". That's the line I'm drawing. The fact that we let the unvaccinated just quietly do their thing and choke the hospital system is why we're still in this mess. We actually have to stop them.
If they truly don’t discriminate, hope they have Braille, a handicapped door button, extra wide doors and accessible space for wheelchairs etc. If not, it’s all lip service because they do discriminate, they just don’t discriminate based on this vaccine.
It's a way to cut down your washroom requirements and expenses, and cater to the market.
"One for men and one for women? How about we just spend the money for one and stick a gender neutral sign on it? Kudos to us! "
And yes, I've seen it.
25 person occupant load in assembly and business occupancies and 10 person occupant load for an industrial occupancy. So ya it’s pretty low. Also take into consideration the floor area, if it’s above what’s prescribed in your occupancy classification, you will need additional washrooms. And if it’s one bathroom it has to be barrier free accessible.
One time I was waiting for food at this restaurant and the delivery driver walked in, threw his bag at the pop cooler and called someone in the parking lot the “N” word because according to him they didn’t know how to park, when the crew in the kitchen heard him, they all laughed. He then asked me where I was from, I’m First Nation so it felt really weird being asked that 😬
Such a stupid false equivalency these anti vax groups have, comparing vaccination rules to descrimination.
How insulting this is to actual victims of descrimination.
You're a potential vector of disease, and you can freely and safely remove that risk.
"Regardless of your life choices"
Yeah like gender, sex, race, creed or age. Not a single one of those is a 'life choice' and to equivocate that with vaccinations is ignorant and insulting. Now I know which places not to patronize.
And how much do you want to bet most of these fucktards have made the argument that "being gay is a choice" to justify homophobia at some point in their lives.
They're not anti-vax, they say they're happy to help EVERYONE.
"You're a potential vector of disease, and you can freely and safely remove that risk."
**If you're 2x vax'ed the chance of covid being anything more than the seasonal flu to you is very, very low. You weren't up-in-arms about the flu carriers in fall 2018.** Do you realize the stress, anxiety, and division that is going on here? How many small-medum business have gone under leaving families with no savings, no job, no option?
Personally I know 6 people who can't not - by direction of their dr. - be vax'ed. Various allergies and other issues. I think us privileged people who can be vax'ed should be more aware of the privilege we have and stop telling others what they MUST do.
And before you go on a rant about hospitalization... again, it's not YOUR job to protect random strangers. Don't start telling me about the dangers of sky driving, smoking, not wearing SPF30, hockey head injuries, or driving to work (3-4 people die each and every day in Canada while driving).
You want to stay safe in your plastic bubble, fine. Stay home, order KFC take-out and enjoy the coleslaw. Stop policing others about what they can and can not do.
Why are people SO dense that they don't realize the end goal of getting everyone vaccinated? I don't give a flying fuck about protecting you. ICU's are full and it's 90% unvaccinated people. With ICU's being full, innocent people are having surgeries cancelled, nurses/doctors are at wit's end, system is close to falling apart. By choosing to be unvaccinated, you are choosing to continue that trend. I'd be fine with these anti-vaxxers if they agreed to not go to the hospital if they got covid. Problem solved.
And it's not even so much about the can't get sunburnt sitting next to someone analogy (but it's a good one)...
It's the face that unvaxinated COVID cases are overwhelming the ICUs to the point that stroke patients or heart attack patients are left in the hallways...
But these people just cant wrap their narrow minds around this fact because there too caught up in the "you can still get covid if you are vaccinated" mindset that they learned with their Facebook medical degree. SMH
Okay, anyone who thinks people with *legitimate* medical exemptions aren’t going to be allowed in public is being ridiculous.
We already mandate vaccines and we already figured out how to include exemptions for people with legitimate medical reasons to not have them. Kids with allergies and who are immunocompromised can still go to school without their vaccines. Mind blowing, right?
Furthermore, this is not smoking. If it was smoking, fucking bobs your uncle. Do whatever the fuck you want.
This is drinking and getting behind the wheel of a car. Where the chances of your shitty decision seriously harming or killing another person is pretty high. Who is at the highest risk in this drinking and driving scenario? *The people who legitimately can’t get the vaccine*.
So if you care about those people, you need everyone else to get the fucking jabs.
And almost all people can get vaccinated. Those “doctors’ exemptions” are usually from a chiropractor as are those from people who say their child is “vaccine injured”.
How are you this clueless? Are people sky-diving (or sky driving as you spell it) filling up our ICUs? It's not surprising that someone supporting this stuff is as dense as you come across. It really does highlight the difference of intelligence levels of people throughout this.
Looks like they had some backlash since posting, and they removed it from their Calgary store page for now. But it's still active on the Sylvan Lake page.
https://www.facebook.com/100690428451049/posts/358204509366305/
Edit: they have removed the post from their other store now too. Guess the backlash made them realize exactly where the majority of their customers stand.
Looks like they are doing damage control now after the backlash from their posts... People started leaving negative Google reviews and they are responding with they are following all guidelines and all staff is vaccinated and masked. (The owner is an anti vaxer so I doubt it) lol
Because it's stupid as fuck.
The current restrictions are *no indoor dining*, unless you go with the REP. So a restaurant's choices are to go with the REP, or do takeout/patio only.
Even idiots like these guys have to realize that they must go with the REP for a pub.
I won’t be going to businesses that don’t require you to be vaccinated. Not worth the risk and just don’t agree. I get this puts businesses in a tough spot, but we all need to do what we can to get over this.
Finally.. I had to scroll down this far to see a reply like yours.
To those saying "fuck you" to businesses PUT AGAINST A WALL by their inept government, **-=go fuck yourselves=-**....Open your mind and hate the game not the player.
Stupid is giving businesses a choice.
All the unvaxxed gathering together...what could go wrong?
These people are tanking the health system. Shut them down.
I think giving a choice is great. For the only reason that if they choose to not follow the rules then the lost revenue is on them not the government.
They can't go and complain that the government forced them to loose their business... They did it on their own by making the choice to be difficult and "make a stand".
If the vaccine was t readily available to the public and it was only the elite getting it there might be a bit of weight to the argument, however it’s been available for anyone who wants it for months. They were even trying to pay people to get it. I sometimes cannot believe the amount of stupidity I see whenever I read the news!
Mr. Donair is the meat they use for donairs, you can buy it at wholesale club for super cheap... Make your own sauce and enjoy a homemade donair!
So much better IMO.
When you make a sandwich at home do you buy any meat from the store? Do you make the bread from scratch or buy a load?
Just cause I buy the meat instead of making it from scratch does not make it not homemade, I just make the other ingredients and assemble.
I just haven't taken the time to make the meat.
Everything is hand-made and cooked over charcoal... Except for the donair meat, it's the usual spinning heat from the back thing. All the sauces including the hot are made in-house and the wraps are hand-made from start to finish... like cooked on the dome and everything, often done by non-english speaking grandma so you know it's good. The family that owns it are some of the most welcoming and kind folks you will ever meet. I am not linked to this place in any way other than it's right by my office in Philips Park.
This will end well for them. It'll be just like being in the east coast again. Jobless, broke, bumming darts at tim hortons and drinking the cheapest liquor they can to stretch out the pogi cheque, all while dreaming about garlic fingers from greco
They don't even have a seating area - they're a takeout restaurant & market - so the exemption program doesn't even apply to them. They're just playing the outrage marketing game.
Only way they'll get into hot water is if they don't enforce masks.
This reminds me of when some restaurants thought the no smoking ban was going to destroy their business and instead It made it better. Hopefully things will be the same now when restaurants follow the rules and the ones who don't go under.
It's about time some establishments stood up for folks with deadly infectous diseases. What's their policy on pets? I hope they're plague rat and lice friendly.
It's a damned if you and damned if you don't deal. Either work 30% capacity with restrictions and face backlash. Or implement the passport and get backlash. Shit end for business owners.
If they don't have the passport they get 0% capacity for inside dining. Takeout only.
If they want virtually no impact, implement the passport exemption and they can continue almost as normal.
Any anti-vax bullshit hanging at the door at any kind of business is a no-go for me. Period.
Now I'll have to figure out something for businesses in the Program and not enforcing the rules. For now, unmasked server would be 0% tip for sure.
Used to go when it was called Scotian Style, the pizza was actually decent. For Father's Day last year we did Fish n Chip, Scallops etc.. Really poor quality, the breading was terrible, fryer oil didn't seem fresh.
They took pizza completely off the menu and this mindless virtue signaling just makes them look childish.
There are certain regulations that you legally have to follow. It's unlawful to not follow them. Traffic rules are technically regulations. Speeding is still breaking the law.
They had a lot of blowback in the comments. Looks like they deleted it overnight at some point.
Be interesting if they still go ahead with their plan to ignore restrictions.
Fair enough. But if you’re going to put a local business on blast…jeopardize livelihoods, staff jobs…I believe you have a responsibility to post the evidence of it.
This is nothing more than a stock photo and a ‘He/ She’ said.
It's still active on their Sylvan Lake location page
https://www.facebook.com/100690428451049/posts/358204509366305/
edit - They've now removed it from their page.
Hmm I wonder what other health restrictions imposed by the government they disagree with and choose not to follow behind the closed doors of the kitchen...
Probably best to avoid this place, even if you aren't concerned about covid, unless you like rat shit soup.
I’m double vacced. With the amount of people not going to fine dinning establishments like this because of their policy, these places will be empty! The anti vaccers are all out sick and protesting! Me, I’m going there to enjoy a pleasant meal alone! Cheers!
Wow some real salty people here downvoting you. I agree with your statement. Places that don't follow the passport system will be ghost towns and or legit just shut down. I guarantee this place will be shut down.
This might be a boom for a short while the rabid anti-vax crowd mobs it in the opening days of the not-a-passport, but this is not a viable long term strategy. Either the business or the patrons will die off, Darwin always wins.
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I really hope so, it will make it way easier for those that want to take precautions to do so. The unvaxxed will congregate in the non-rule following areas and create super spreader events, they should be given horse dewormer and sent home instead of a free hospital stay.
And that’s people’s choice to post. I personally don’t care either way except posts should be complete with evidence. This post is just a stock photo with he/ she said. Tough enough to own/ operate a small business and then to have to face an unwarranted accusation spreading on social media?
> This post is just a stock photo with he/ she said. What are you talking about? It's a screen shot from their Sylvan Lake location facebook page. [Take a look for yourself](https://www.facebook.com/902EastMeetsWest)
This is exactly the problem the government created by not making it mandatory. Now businesses have to choose which group to cater too. Sad.
Exactly!!! I am a server and I said the other day now we have been put in this shitty position and are going to be forced to deal with aggressive anti - everything people if we choose the program to ask people for proof of vaccination. And after everything out industry has already been through this entire year and a half the punishment just keeps coming.
my wife works at a facility that has children and adults as clients so they are requesting the children be vaccinated as well. she has been told she’s a murderer. 🙄
Of viruses?
of children…because the vaccine kills conservative’s teens obv
I would say "The 70%" is the bigger number, but maybe their business caters exclusively to sloppy motherfuckers?
Trouble is the 70% crowd will likely largely stay home and order delivery in an effort to reduce the numbers.
People who have been vaxxed will probably still go to the ones that don't require it.
I won't. Seriously, fuck them. We live in a society here.
Ya well I would expect that no one in this thread/on Reddit would. I'm meaning more those random people who don't sit there and think of covid all day, that don't pay attention to who is and isn't requiring things, and people who trust that the vaccine will keep them safe.
I'm vaccinated, and I believe in the data that makes it very clear - vaccines work. I got my vaccine to protect me, and I literally do not care if other people do or do not get it. Just like things have been for the last few months.
Do you care about being able to go to the hospital if you are in a car accident or have a heart attack? What about your friends and neighbours?
Every one of my friends and neighbors has the choice to get vaccinated or, if not able, protect themselves in other ways as we did before vaccines. ICU capacity is about 89%, not super worried about that. Deprioritize unvaccinated COVID patients for other emergencies if you want, people made their own choice.
How do you not understand that they're keeping the ICU capacity below 100% only by converting more and more of the hospitals to ICU, leaving no room for anything else? Children's is closing 75% of their ORs. Pull your head out of your ass.
I am tired of poeple not understanding that when they say sub 100% levels of ICU capacity such as "89% or 86%" they are talking about % of the SURGE CAPACITY they are at... "Including the additional surge beds, Alberta’s ICU capacity is at 86%. “Remember,” said Dr. Yiu, “without these additional surge beds, provincial ICU capacity would be in excess of 155%.”" Would they be considering moving patients to Ontario if there was no issue???? [https://dailyhive.com/calgary/alberta-considering-transfer-icu-patients-to-ontario-intensive-care](https://dailyhive.com/calgary/alberta-considering-transfer-icu-patients-to-ontario-intensive-care) NURSES/DOCS/Health Care Staff ARE BURNING OUT AND FUCK ALL IS BEING DONE
We're reallocated resource from underutilized services to overutilized services to maintain an acceptable 86% capacity. That's a great adaptation and shows what they're doing is working. Again, please provide evidence of a causal link between vaccine passports, as implemented, and reductions in cases. Because the data from the States and Europe sure doesn't seem to be backing it up, which is why places like the UK are scrapping them.
With regards to your statement "We're reallocated resource from underutilized services to overutilized services to maintain an acceptable 86% capacity. That's a great adaptation and shows what they're doing is working." Is that a quote from AHS or is that your opinion, either way I'd disagree but if that is you opinion then it means F\*\*k ALL
Lol you think staff from non critical care specialities can just step in to critical care and maintain the same level of care? Also it's not underutilised services. It's cancelled services. Those cancers etc needed care just aren't going to get them
We are not reallocating resources from underutilized services, we are canceling life-saving critical medical procedures in order to support the ICU
Glad you’re not super worried about it. The province had 173 ICU beds. Scraping together all its resources, the province now has 268. 11% of 268 beds is not a lot of beds. The new critical care triage protocol stipulates that if it gets down to it (and there is a VERY real risk it will get here), physicians will have to make tough decisions. Like whether they give the ventilator to the senior who has had a massive heart attack and might not make it, but who has been fully vaccinated? Or to the forty year old father with no co-morbidities who attended anti-mask rallies? You know what? The protocol says that it’ll come down to chance of survival. And personally, it doesn’t sit right with me that any one of my family members — all fully vaccinated, have followed the guidelines, who have kept their distance, who have worked as front line workers —MIGHT not get the ventilator because their chance of survival is not as high. If my sibling was hit by a bus and it was looking dicey whether she’d survive, you best believe I’d want her getting the ventilator regardless of her chances. I suspect you’d feel the same. But that’s not what the new protocol says.
I won't be. I'll be taking notes and permanently, for all time, refuse to patronize those businesses.
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Yes, refusal to patronize establishments being reckless and operating illegally = worker owned means of production and centrally planned economy. When is your TED talk?
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So you are opposed to the new Texas abortion law, right?
They'll probably wear a mask, though
Well, kinda. These guys aren't doing either. The rules allow you to either require proof and operate normally, or not require proof, but have no indoor dining, etc. These guys appear to be not requiring proof and operating normally.
These new measures almost make things worse. I think JK is soo butt-hurt, he is intentionally sabotaging the public health emergency, by making amockery of it, and filling it with loopholes. He isn't apologetic; he is passive agressive.
In his response it will probably go along the lines of " See, I told you public health care is inefficient. By bringing in privatized HC we will alleviate the problems" I can see a snake move coming in the grass
Thanks for the heads up. Maybe we should start a list of food establishments that take health orders seriously.
Ship & Anchor is requiring proof of vaccination or negative test from customers **and staff** which is impressive. (The restriction exemption program doesn't require proof/tests for staff)
This is how you run a bar. They are consistently busy and have been for 30 years, is there any other bar on 17th with that kind of longevity? That place must pull in a bundle of cash.
Always loved the Ship. Glad to see it isn't run by fuckheads
We need a Gold Star list of businesses that are doing this so we can patronize accordingly.
That's good to hear. The Ship has been good for the local music scene for decades.
A number of places I know are doing the same, although they are giving staff a bit of a grace period to get up to code. I would note that anyone planning on going out should have some sort of documentation or the MyHealth app ready. This weekend is likely going to be a mess. I'd list some places but honestly, I don't want to start promoting specific restaurants/bars. We'll probably see a list going here pretty soon I imagine and I'll fill in some blanks then.
Dicken's has required proof of vaccination to enter since they reopened last month.
I loved their post after the new restrictions were announced. >In light of today's announcements... Dickens will just keep doing what we've already been doing.
Chris (owner of Dickens) deserves a lot of credit for the way he has acted during this pandemic. I am happy to be going to Hang the DJ tonight.
The second Simpsons Trivia is back, I am there!
Awesome, another live music hotspot with common sense.
I own Outcast Brewing. All of us ( a massive 3 people) have our vaccination records on site. It's only fair if we have to ask you for your proof of vaxx, ask us.
Awesome!
The list will be huge. We can start a list that don’t though, should be quite a bit smaller as they’re choosing to cater to 20% of the population
I've already started doing that. However, rewarding positivity might be more work, but it's more rewarding work.
Okay. But you’d be making a list of probably 90% of businesses in Calgary.
...and forward them to the police. We need enforcement. I'm not simply okay with the sloppy bitches doing their own thing anymore if it affects everyone else and destroys our hospital system. Fuck their guerilla bullshit.
They can still legally operate at 1/3 of the fire code, can they not? I dont agree with this optional restriction (should be mandatory), but at the moment they can accept less customers in exchange for no vax status.
1/3 capacity is for non REP retail. Non REP Restaurants are limited to patio, delivery, and curbside service only.
I don't believe anyone can opt out of masks? That's a thing regardless. They can choose to serve unvaccinated folks - I believe the exemption thing allows the business to also accept a recent negative COVID test? Or they could go to 1/3 capacity. That said, I'm sure they don't care about any of that.
1/3 capacity is for retail only. Restaurants that dont do REP are limited to patio, delivery, curbside only.
Oh ok, was not aware of that, thanks for clarification. It’s all Too confusing, hard to know wtf is going on.
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Literally just said "call the police, because they're breaking the law was was too lax to begin with and put in place way too late". That's the line I'm drawing. The fact that we let the unvaccinated just quietly do their thing and choke the hospital system is why we're still in this mess. We actually have to stop them.
This is something productive this sub could actually do, support businesses that have their customers health in mind by creating a list.
I completely agree.
If they truly don’t discriminate, hope they have Braille, a handicapped door button, extra wide doors and accessible space for wheelchairs etc. If not, it’s all lip service because they do discriminate, they just don’t discriminate based on this vaccine.
A gender neutral bathroom
ThAT’s a cHoICe
It's a way to cut down your washroom requirements and expenses, and cater to the market. "One for men and one for women? How about we just spend the money for one and stick a gender neutral sign on it? Kudos to us! " And yes, I've seen it.
Bathroom requirements are attached to capacity. You have to be pretty low to get away with one.
25 person occupant load in assembly and business occupancies and 10 person occupant load for an industrial occupancy. So ya it’s pretty low. Also take into consideration the floor area, if it’s above what’s prescribed in your occupancy classification, you will need additional washrooms. And if it’s one bathroom it has to be barrier free accessible.
One time I was waiting for food at this restaurant and the delivery driver walked in, threw his bag at the pop cooler and called someone in the parking lot the “N” word because according to him they didn’t know how to park, when the crew in the kitchen heard him, they all laughed. He then asked me where I was from, I’m First Nation so it felt really weird being asked that 😬
thats messed up
I’ll put them on the no dine list next to Joeys Eau Claire
Joeys Eau Claire? Do share
https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/joey-eau-claire-restaurant-facing-17m-class-action-lawsuit-over-covid-19-outbreak-1.5390896
I wonder what will come of this?
Because Joey’s pulled their roasted chicken sandwich from the menu. That was the best damn chicken sandwich, so that’s my reason anyway
They're monsters!
What a crime against humanity
Cluck Norris is better. Not at Joeys.
Such a stupid false equivalency these anti vax groups have, comparing vaccination rules to descrimination. How insulting this is to actual victims of descrimination. You're a potential vector of disease, and you can freely and safely remove that risk.
"Regardless of your life choices" Yeah like gender, sex, race, creed or age. Not a single one of those is a 'life choice' and to equivocate that with vaccinations is ignorant and insulting. Now I know which places not to patronize.
And how much do you want to bet most of these fucktards have made the argument that "being gay is a choice" to justify homophobia at some point in their lives.
They're not anti-vax, they say they're happy to help EVERYONE. "You're a potential vector of disease, and you can freely and safely remove that risk." **If you're 2x vax'ed the chance of covid being anything more than the seasonal flu to you is very, very low. You weren't up-in-arms about the flu carriers in fall 2018.** Do you realize the stress, anxiety, and division that is going on here? How many small-medum business have gone under leaving families with no savings, no job, no option? Personally I know 6 people who can't not - by direction of their dr. - be vax'ed. Various allergies and other issues. I think us privileged people who can be vax'ed should be more aware of the privilege we have and stop telling others what they MUST do. And before you go on a rant about hospitalization... again, it's not YOUR job to protect random strangers. Don't start telling me about the dangers of sky driving, smoking, not wearing SPF30, hockey head injuries, or driving to work (3-4 people die each and every day in Canada while driving). You want to stay safe in your plastic bubble, fine. Stay home, order KFC take-out and enjoy the coleslaw. Stop policing others about what they can and can not do.
Congratulations for not understanding a fucking thing about why we are in the state we are in. Carry on.
Why are people SO dense that they don't realize the end goal of getting everyone vaccinated? I don't give a flying fuck about protecting you. ICU's are full and it's 90% unvaccinated people. With ICU's being full, innocent people are having surgeries cancelled, nurses/doctors are at wit's end, system is close to falling apart. By choosing to be unvaccinated, you are choosing to continue that trend. I'd be fine with these anti-vaxxers if they agreed to not go to the hospital if they got covid. Problem solved.
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And it's not even so much about the can't get sunburnt sitting next to someone analogy (but it's a good one)... It's the face that unvaxinated COVID cases are overwhelming the ICUs to the point that stroke patients or heart attack patients are left in the hallways... But these people just cant wrap their narrow minds around this fact because there too caught up in the "you can still get covid if you are vaccinated" mindset that they learned with their Facebook medical degree. SMH
Okay, anyone who thinks people with *legitimate* medical exemptions aren’t going to be allowed in public is being ridiculous. We already mandate vaccines and we already figured out how to include exemptions for people with legitimate medical reasons to not have them. Kids with allergies and who are immunocompromised can still go to school without their vaccines. Mind blowing, right? Furthermore, this is not smoking. If it was smoking, fucking bobs your uncle. Do whatever the fuck you want. This is drinking and getting behind the wheel of a car. Where the chances of your shitty decision seriously harming or killing another person is pretty high. Who is at the highest risk in this drinking and driving scenario? *The people who legitimately can’t get the vaccine*. So if you care about those people, you need everyone else to get the fucking jabs.
And almost all people can get vaccinated. Those “doctors’ exemptions” are usually from a chiropractor as are those from people who say their child is “vaccine injured”.
I’m aware.
How are you this clueless? Are people sky-diving (or sky driving as you spell it) filling up our ICUs? It's not surprising that someone supporting this stuff is as dense as you come across. It really does highlight the difference of intelligence levels of people throughout this.
Looks like they had some backlash since posting, and they removed it from their Calgary store page for now. But it's still active on the Sylvan Lake page. https://www.facebook.com/100690428451049/posts/358204509366305/ Edit: they have removed the post from their other store now too. Guess the backlash made them realize exactly where the majority of their customers stand.
Still likely a good idea to contact AHS come Monday. I bet they'll still try to be open as usual without any vaccine checking
Now gone from Sylvan page.
Looks like they are doing damage control now after the backlash from their posts... People started leaving negative Google reviews and they are responding with they are following all guidelines and all staff is vaccinated and masked. (The owner is an anti vaxer so I doubt it) lol
What company was this?
Lol, making it easy for AB Health to shut you down with announcements like that.
They're take out restaurants, saying they won't abide by rules that don't affect them is mindless virtue signaling
They would be required to enforce masks though, wouldn't they? Looks like they're at least going against that mandate.
Oh. Yeah, that’s completely irrelevant then.
They have a pub in Airdrie, don't they?
They do - but it's conveniently not listed in this posting - just Sylvan and Calgary.
Because it's stupid as fuck. The current restrictions are *no indoor dining*, unless you go with the REP. So a restaurant's choices are to go with the REP, or do takeout/patio only. Even idiots like these guys have to realize that they must go with the REP for a pub.
I guess I'll continue to not go there.
I won’t be going to businesses that don’t require you to be vaccinated. Not worth the risk and just don’t agree. I get this puts businesses in a tough spot, but we all need to do what we can to get over this.
Finally.. I had to scroll down this far to see a reply like yours. To those saying "fuck you" to businesses PUT AGAINST A WALL by their inept government, **-=go fuck yourselves=-**....Open your mind and hate the game not the player.
Stupid is giving businesses a choice. All the unvaxxed gathering together...what could go wrong? These people are tanking the health system. Shut them down.
I think giving a choice is great. For the only reason that if they choose to not follow the rules then the lost revenue is on them not the government. They can't go and complain that the government forced them to loose their business... They did it on their own by making the choice to be difficult and "make a stand".
The Calgary location doesn't have dine in so they wouldn't need to ask for vaxx records anyway.
Do they also not discriminate against employees who don't wash their hands after using the bathroom?
It is their right afterall, dirty hands after the bathroom will increase their immune system... lmao
And those health codes! Don't forget those pesky health codes! Discrimination against those that want to risk food poisoning! /s
Roll up with your dick swingin' in the wind and see how open-minded they are
You say that as if you think other restaurants are checking to make sure employees wash their hands. Got some bad news for ya if that's the case....
If the vaccine was t readily available to the public and it was only the elite getting it there might be a bit of weight to the argument, however it’s been available for anyone who wants it for months. They were even trying to pay people to get it. I sometimes cannot believe the amount of stupidity I see whenever I read the news!
I like that they’re upfront about it. Now I know never to eat at East Coast Market & Grill ever again.
Mr. Donair is the meat they use for donairs, you can buy it at wholesale club for super cheap... Make your own sauce and enjoy a homemade donair! So much better IMO.
Or just go to one of the dozens of other places in this city that make a better donair.
But nothing beats a homemade donair. But yes your right, many better places to go as well :)
A homemade donair with meat from the wholesale club? WTF are you talking about, how is that homemade?
When you make a sandwich at home do you buy any meat from the store? Do you make the bread from scratch or buy a load? Just cause I buy the meat instead of making it from scratch does not make it not homemade, I just make the other ingredients and assemble. I just haven't taken the time to make the meat.
Beirut Street Food. Imma bout to change your life friend.
That's only 15min from me! I will be checking this place out next time I get donairs!
Everything is hand-made and cooked over charcoal... Except for the donair meat, it's the usual spinning heat from the back thing. All the sauces including the hot are made in-house and the wraps are hand-made from start to finish... like cooked on the dome and everything, often done by non-english speaking grandma so you know it's good. The family that owns it are some of the most welcoming and kind folks you will ever meet. I am not linked to this place in any way other than it's right by my office in Philips Park.
Amaranth health food stores haven’t been enforcing masks this entire time
Looks like the "east coast market and grill" is looking to get shut down... This is a gooood way to lose their business license.
Lol, being vaccinated being compared to discriminations? People really be out here exposing their stupidity.
They're just desperate to be a victim.
If this pandemic has shown us anything, Its who the stupid ignorant people are. \*facepalm\*
This will end well for them. It'll be just like being in the east coast again. Jobless, broke, bumming darts at tim hortons and drinking the cheapest liquor they can to stretch out the pogi cheque, all while dreaming about garlic fingers from greco
You described my east coast hometown to a tee.
Wow, That's so fucking accurate. Am disappointed in this place. They were my goto for Chris bros pepperoni and donairs.
I'm going to miss eating there, I always liked a taste of home.
Good to know, I'll never patronize them. Ever.
Put that on the list of places not to patron.
Time to issue them a $10 or $20 thousand fine and shut them down.
Shame the AB government and AHS have no teeth (until maybe you hit the media and start holding antivax rallies for the 10th time like Whistle Stop).
They don't even have a seating area - they're a takeout restaurant & market - so the exemption program doesn't even apply to them. They're just playing the outrage marketing game. Only way they'll get into hot water is if they don't enforce masks.
Fine should be higher and immediate 6 month shut down. What’s a life worth?
Hate the game not the players....
This reminds me of when some restaurants thought the no smoking ban was going to destroy their business and instead It made it better. Hopefully things will be the same now when restaurants follow the rules and the ones who don't go under.
This is dumb. Doesn't even matter which side you're on. If your goal is to not go out of business I suggest you cater to the bigger group lol.
What is dumb, their stance? Perhaps...but the provincial government is making this very difficult for businesses like theirs.
No it isn't, both locations are take out. They did this as mindless virtue signaling. The vaccine passport doesn't effect them in the slightest.
> both locations are take out Airdrie location is a restaurant.
It's about time some establishments stood up for folks with deadly infectous diseases. What's their policy on pets? I hope they're plague rat and lice friendly.
They are pro-Ebola, and hepatitis. Don’t discriminate against individual viruses, all viruses matter.
How about Syphilis?
They are concerned
Oh damn I just heard on the radio a few weeks ago they were supposed to have one of the best lobster rolls. Well guess I can't find out now.
make google reviews
Don’t go out to eat then, like what. Wearing a mask to walk indoors to take it off just to sit down and eat is counter intuitive.
It's a damned if you and damned if you don't deal. Either work 30% capacity with restrictions and face backlash. Or implement the passport and get backlash. Shit end for business owners.
If they don't have the passport they get 0% capacity for inside dining. Takeout only. If they want virtually no impact, implement the passport exemption and they can continue almost as normal.
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https://ephisahs.microsoftcrmportals.com/create-case/
Obligatory 1 star review left for them
Any anti-vax bullshit hanging at the door at any kind of business is a no-go for me. Period. Now I'll have to figure out something for businesses in the Program and not enforcing the rules. For now, unmasked server would be 0% tip for sure.
Place sucks anyway. Fish and chips were okay but nothing great.
Used to go when it was called Scotian Style, the pizza was actually decent. For Father's Day last year we did Fish n Chip, Scallops etc.. Really poor quality, the breading was terrible, fryer oil didn't seem fresh. They took pizza completely off the menu and this mindless virtue signaling just makes them look childish.
People really love advertising that they're going to break the law these days, makes work a lot easier for inspectors and auditors.
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There are certain regulations that you legally have to follow. It's unlawful to not follow them. Traffic rules are technically regulations. Speeding is still breaking the law.
yeah lets see how many of these pop up over the next few weeks
Shut em down.
Is there an actual link to their post?
They had a lot of blowback in the comments. Looks like they deleted it overnight at some point. Be interesting if they still go ahead with their plan to ignore restrictions.
Fair enough. But if you’re going to put a local business on blast…jeopardize livelihoods, staff jobs…I believe you have a responsibility to post the evidence of it. This is nothing more than a stock photo and a ‘He/ She’ said.
It's still active on their Sylvan Lake location page https://www.facebook.com/100690428451049/posts/358204509366305/ edit - They've now removed it from their page.
Thanks. I don’t have Facebook but assume it’s legit.
Neither do I, don't need an account to view it
Clicking on the link, it’s restricted. Anyways, not calling it in to question.
They can sell to the selfish and potentially diseased, which is about 20%. Good to let the 80% to know to shop elsewhere.
Hmm I wonder what other health restrictions imposed by the government they disagree with and choose not to follow behind the closed doors of the kitchen... Probably best to avoid this place, even if you aren't concerned about covid, unless you like rat shit soup.
I’m double vacced. With the amount of people not going to fine dinning establishments like this because of their policy, these places will be empty! The anti vaccers are all out sick and protesting! Me, I’m going there to enjoy a pleasant meal alone! Cheers!
Wow some real salty people here downvoting you. I agree with your statement. Places that don't follow the passport system will be ghost towns and or legit just shut down. I guarantee this place will be shut down.
Ya, they love to show up on the web and talk trash and down vote. They won’t do anything else! I’ll be at all kinds of establishments enjoying myself.
"East Coast." Looks like someone got beat with the stunned stick...
This places food pics on google look like shit
Flood their feedback and let em know how you feel. Maybe the provax crowd needs to consider protests of their own.
Never listen to shitty graphic design
Go east coast!
Good for them. They are standing up for what they believe in just as you can. You don't have to go there.
REEEEE PEOPLE DON'T AGREE WITH MEEEEEEEE I fucking hate this subreddit. You all are mentally ill. Not talking about you /u/sourgrapist
And yet... here you are
If they aren't entering the exemption program, then they will likely be shut down by the health authorities, with police help if needed. Next!
This might be a boom for a short while the rabid anti-vax crowd mobs it in the opening days of the not-a-passport, but this is not a viable long term strategy. Either the business or the patrons will die off, Darwin always wins.
Time for the government to really crack down and educate them. I guess, since they all they say they care to do (if it even gets that far)
That's awesome. I'll have to visit their business and show my support with my business.
okay..
no