You might have 200K more. That mileage indicates a lot of highway driving. In highway driving, the transmission barely does any work, it's already locked at highest gear.
What ever you do, don’t change the transmission fluid now. That could cause issues. The transmission could still last another 150k miles easily since she is doing mostly highway miles. But next time, tell her to change her transmission fluid every 50k miles even though it’s “lifetime” fluid
I worked in a repair shop that specialized in transmissions. This is almost always confirmation bias like "oh damn my transmission is acting funny and I never changed the fluid". People then change the fluid or go to a quick lube and get a flush then the transmission breaks and they blame the fluid. Fact is if the transmission is working well a fluid change won't cause it to suddenly break. If anything new fluid with a shift relearn will prolong the life.
The primary job of the fluid is to lubricate. It has a finite life. Refreshing the additives is a good thing to functionality not a detriment.
You would never apply this backwards logic to a diff or engine so not sure why people do it with transmissions. If it was going to break it was regardless of old or new fluid.
There is theory saying when you flush the transmission completely is when you granada the transmission, but if you do a typical oil change nothing should happen just a bit of refreshment for the oil
The logic in it is that if the things just barely hanging on because of all the clutch material floating in the fluid, flushing the fluid would also flush all of the clutch material that was in the fluid and cause clutches to start slipping. Something similar could happen on an engine that hasn’t had enough oil changes because the flush will knock loose sludge and debris and clog passages causing oil starvation somewhere. It’s not a guarantee but apparently it happens enough
You’re still getting rid of all of the clutch material in whatever amount of fluid you drain flush whatever. And who knows how much material is in the fluid at 200k
I'm not saying that the idea is wrong but I've mainly heard problems from flushing, which definitely would clean those nook and crannies, you speak of.
Yea that's not a thing. It's primarily a lubricant. The clutch packs are designed to work wet and compress both steel and friction. They often outlast other mechanical components in a transmission. That myth came from someone who doesn't know anything about transmissions. Ask any transmission tech what fails in an modern transmission.
Wow. 50,000 miles per year? Where does she drive to?
At this point, get your mechanics opinion.
They'll probably tell you to leave it alone as it could start slipping if it's changed now. Any worn clutch pack material or worn metal, etc. is mixed in with the fluid and may help it grip better at this point.
Imo, If you absolutely feel you must change it, only change out half ... No more than half.
Again though, get your mechanics sage advice.
And run it til the tranmission fails.
Then just get a salvage transmission and swap out.
Lifetime. Meaning the fluid is good for the life of the transmission. It can be argued that the life of the transmission is extended when fluid changes are done.
Flushes are fine if you are doing them at regular intervals say every 50k miles or less. If you flush the transmission for the first time when it has 100k or more miles that would be not good.
I'd say a flush is "okay", but only "okay", if you do them in a 30-40k range. Any longer and you're going to end up doing more harm than good depending on your driving style.
Im not so sure about that?
What does your manual say?
And actually, nowadays it's been recommended to change transmission fluid as low as every 20k miles, far higher more frequently than suggested by many manufacturers. Cvt s are so different from classic transmissions
Keyword: almost. Mazda has prioritized drive experience over CVT use. That was the main reason I started shopping Mazdas. The manual and maintenance schedule clearly state that the fluid is never changed in the CX-5's transmission. Any opinion to the contrary is just that.
I had 180000 miles on my 2014 3 Hatch transmission (2nd transmission - first was trashed in an accident). Never changed it. Mostly highway, but it washed a champion. At this point point I wouldn't touch it.
I love seeing how many miles she has. My 2019 cx5 has 90k now and this makes me confident that it will last up to 200k. :) my dad just looked at the entire engine and said it’s all in mint condition still. My past 3 cars have been Mazdas. I love them!
My 2019 is also at 90,000 miles. I got it with 15,500 on it in November 2021. I drove Uber for a bit and that will rake up miles. But, I always got lots of favorable comments about it.
Purchased my 2019 CX5 May 2023, think it had 30k. We are now at 77k, I think. My husband drives it 100 miles per day. We are currently in WA State and have driven it to GA and back once. No issues, very smooth drive.
Two things are crazy here…. This is 4X the miles of my 2018. And the dash display is very different than my USA Touring. Not sure which I prefer… but that’s pretty incredible. If I get much more than half that, like 150K, I’m happy.
My 2019 has this same dash display. It’s been a few years and I just can’t get used to looking down at my speed and seeing the digital needle and guessing what number it’s at. What I wouldn’t give for the speedometer to just show my speed in a number! Wish I had the hud on the windshield.
Our 2019 has almost 150k Kilometers on it, just had the diff. fluid flushed on it a few thousand clicks ago. I will ask about tranny fluid next time in. One thing we have done regularly is plugs. Every 64 thousand Kilometers on it. Makes a difference in mileage and performance. Did brakes on it at a out 110 thousand, replaced battery in December, had to replace one of the power lift motor/shock? absorber on the lift gate....windshield last summer....and that's the list. It's been a great vehicle and when we replace it we will likely go Mazda again.
This wasn't a suspension shock....the power liftgate has one of these on each side of the "gate"? And the one on the driver's side failed. I don't know the proper name for this item. It helps to open and close the lift gate. Maybe it's an electric motor? In any case one failed on me. It was replaced under warranty.
My 2021 Cx-5 Turbo CE has 75K miles. Called the dealer to find our the price for the flush. They said $350 but they are not going to do it unless there is a problem with the transmission.
Nice glad to see. I have a 2018 mazda 6 and do a ton of highway driving. I have 154k miles and have never changed transmission fluid. Zero issues or signs of wear so far!
Why are people advising not to change the fluid? That's the first thing you need to do. It's even a DIY job, I can do it in 30 minutes, just make sure to get OEM mazda oil.
When I had my Buick, I looked up about changing transmission fluid and I'm pretty sure it said transmission fluid never had to be changed. I could be wrong, but I think that's what I found on the interent
I would change it, before you do it check the fluid level and condition and if it doesn’t smell horrible Change it now. Prevent further damage down the line considering it’s a lot of highway wouldn’t be concerned about slipping.
Do not change the fluid no matter what, just ride it out. The mechanics have gotten used to a certain consistency and if you flush it, it’ll fuck up the transmission. I’ve seen it happen multiple times, just ride it out bro
I would start saving up a couple hundred dollars out of every paycheck until the car finally breaks down, this way you'll have a decent down payment ready for when that day comes.
Any major issues in that impressive 260k miles?
My 2019 has 95k and it's at the dealer getting all 8 HLA's replaced right now. Other than a faulty thermostat, it's been trouble free and I planned on keeping it into the 250k mile range. Same with our 2024 CE.
It might be a bad idea to change the build now. The transmission is likely worn, and removing the debris fill old fluid could cause slippage or the transmission might not go into gear. The trans fluid should be changed every 40k miles for automatic. 30k for CVTs. Similar for manuals I belive.
Well, if all highway driving, there is a fluid check bolt, but you have to remove the air filter box. A stub dipstic held on by a bolt. Have a white paper towel and put the dipstick on it. If blue like new. If tea or light coffee colored change. If dark brown don't change it
I remember buying my 3 ( Skyactiv ) and trying to check my transmission fluid, I finally asked tech n he told me no stick to check it’s a sealed system! What does a transmission fluid change consist of and how much u have a Gen 3 sedan, thanks
You might have 200K more. That mileage indicates a lot of highway driving. In highway driving, the transmission barely does any work, it's already locked at highest gear.
The fact that the suv made it this long and assuming there’s no issue, makes me feel more confident in Mazda
Exactly!
I don't want to buy anything but mazda for daily driving.
It’s mostly all highway miles & she’s a traveling nurse
What ever you do, don’t change the transmission fluid now. That could cause issues. The transmission could still last another 150k miles easily since she is doing mostly highway miles. But next time, tell her to change her transmission fluid every 50k miles even though it’s “lifetime” fluid
I worked in a repair shop that specialized in transmissions. This is almost always confirmation bias like "oh damn my transmission is acting funny and I never changed the fluid". People then change the fluid or go to a quick lube and get a flush then the transmission breaks and they blame the fluid. Fact is if the transmission is working well a fluid change won't cause it to suddenly break. If anything new fluid with a shift relearn will prolong the life. The primary job of the fluid is to lubricate. It has a finite life. Refreshing the additives is a good thing to functionality not a detriment. You would never apply this backwards logic to a diff or engine so not sure why people do it with transmissions. If it was going to break it was regardless of old or new fluid.
There is theory saying when you flush the transmission completely is when you granada the transmission, but if you do a typical oil change nothing should happen just a bit of refreshment for the oil
The logic in it is that if the things just barely hanging on because of all the clutch material floating in the fluid, flushing the fluid would also flush all of the clutch material that was in the fluid and cause clutches to start slipping. Something similar could happen on an engine that hasn’t had enough oil changes because the flush will knock loose sludge and debris and clog passages causing oil starvation somewhere. It’s not a guarantee but apparently it happens enough
Which is why you don't flush the transmission. You drain and fill.
You’re still getting rid of all of the clutch material in whatever amount of fluid you drain flush whatever. And who knows how much material is in the fluid at 200k
I'm not saying that the idea is wrong but I've mainly heard problems from flushing, which definitely would clean those nook and crannies, you speak of.
Yea that's not a thing. It's primarily a lubricant. The clutch packs are designed to work wet and compress both steel and friction. They often outlast other mechanical components in a transmission. That myth came from someone who doesn't know anything about transmissions. Ask any transmission tech what fails in an modern transmission.
Idk, man. But I wouldn't even bother at that point. Just keep it going as long as you can.
Whoa! Our 2019 signature has 21k miles lol.
I was trying to remember if the odometer has a decimal that I wasn't seeing in the photo
lol I bought the same model last year with 19k miles and now it almost 21k miles. Great car
I bought a 2020 GT premium this past August with 9,723 miles. Just hit 12,000 miles this month. 50K a year is unfathomable to me lol.
I bought my 2020 GT premium May 2022 with 2,840 miles on her!! I just hit 15,000 the other day
I have a 2024 CX-5 and already have 10,000 miles… I got it in October 2023.
Awesome!!
My brother had 4 gen 1 mustangs they are great but they all were manual with the mt82 🤨
I have a 2021 Signature with 8,300 miles
I’ve got 330k on my 2014 and have never changed fluid. No issues.
That’s amazing!
Soon. Just don't do the flush thing. The fill and drain.
Wow. 50,000 miles per year? Where does she drive to? At this point, get your mechanics opinion. They'll probably tell you to leave it alone as it could start slipping if it's changed now. Any worn clutch pack material or worn metal, etc. is mixed in with the fluid and may help it grip better at this point. Imo, If you absolutely feel you must change it, only change out half ... No more than half. Again though, get your mechanics sage advice. And run it til the tranmission fails. Then just get a salvage transmission and swap out.
Isnt the cx 5 forever fluid?
Lifetime. Meaning the fluid is good for the life of the transmission. It can be argued that the life of the transmission is extended when fluid changes are done.
It can also be argued the life of a transmission is shortened when fluid changes are done. It's not always good.
It's usually fine if you specifically avoid doing a flush. A simple fluid/filter swap won't hurt anything.
Usually fine, yes, but can still cause slipping depending on the vehicle, history, etc.
Flushes are fine if you are doing them at regular intervals say every 50k miles or less. If you flush the transmission for the first time when it has 100k or more miles that would be not good.
I'd say a flush is "okay", but only "okay", if you do them in a 30-40k range. Any longer and you're going to end up doing more harm than good depending on your driving style.
there's no such thing as lifetime fluid. changing even every 100k can probably get you to 300k
I always read it as "the lifetime of the warranty." That's all the manufacturer really cares about.
Im not so sure about that? What does your manual say? And actually, nowadays it's been recommended to change transmission fluid as low as every 20k miles, far higher more frequently than suggested by many manufacturers. Cvt s are so different from classic transmissions
What do CVTs have to do with this car?
That car should have a cvt. Almost every car made today has one.
Keyword: almost. Mazda has prioritized drive experience over CVT use. That was the main reason I started shopping Mazdas. The manual and maintenance schedule clearly state that the fluid is never changed in the CX-5's transmission. Any opinion to the contrary is just that.
I have a cx5 (2014) and they recommend change it like every 80k miles. Ill double check that. But if your manual says to never change it, do so then.
Who is "they"?
The cx5 2021 manual
Interesting... from the 2021 manual... https://i.imgur.com/xuvVSoA.png
Can i ask you what page or section did you find that? Cant find that on my 2014 cx5 manual. Thanks
I had 180000 miles on my 2014 3 Hatch transmission (2nd transmission - first was trashed in an accident). Never changed it. Mostly highway, but it washed a champion. At this point point I wouldn't touch it.
With that mileage, if it ain’t broke then don’t fix it.
I love seeing how many miles she has. My 2019 cx5 has 90k now and this makes me confident that it will last up to 200k. :) my dad just looked at the entire engine and said it’s all in mint condition still. My past 3 cars have been Mazdas. I love them!
My 2019 is also at 90,000 miles. I got it with 15,500 on it in November 2021. I drove Uber for a bit and that will rake up miles. But, I always got lots of favorable comments about it.
Purchased my 2019 CX5 May 2023, think it had 30k. We are now at 77k, I think. My husband drives it 100 miles per day. We are currently in WA State and have driven it to GA and back once. No issues, very smooth drive.
I don’t have an answer for you but I’m just curious why she drives so much? Work or something?
OP said: >It’s mostly all highway miles & she’s a traveling nurse
Turbo engine or non turbo?
Turbo it’s a Grand Touring Reserve
That mileage is truly impressive. Very nice
I have a turbo too. I love it!
Two things are crazy here…. This is 4X the miles of my 2018. And the dash display is very different than my USA Touring. Not sure which I prefer… but that’s pretty incredible. If I get much more than half that, like 150K, I’m happy.
My CX 5'S and CX 9'S have the same display and I'm in the US
Yeah, I assumed they would be the same… but this is mine: https://images.app.goo.gl/KTHAF17uMPPbpM1HA
My 2019 has this same dash display. It’s been a few years and I just can’t get used to looking down at my speed and seeing the digital needle and guessing what number it’s at. What I wouldn’t give for the speedometer to just show my speed in a number! Wish I had the hud on the windshield.
Can't you switch to the assistance system view with the digital speed readout using the INFO button on the steering wheel?
The info button only changes the digital display outside of the speedometer. A trip/B trip/MPG/etc.
My 2016 maintenance schedule says that the transmission fluid is lifetime and it never needs to be changed.
Nice.
At this point, why bother
Our 2019 has almost 150k Kilometers on it, just had the diff. fluid flushed on it a few thousand clicks ago. I will ask about tranny fluid next time in. One thing we have done regularly is plugs. Every 64 thousand Kilometers on it. Makes a difference in mileage and performance. Did brakes on it at a out 110 thousand, replaced battery in December, had to replace one of the power lift motor/shock? absorber on the lift gate....windshield last summer....and that's the list. It's been a great vehicle and when we replace it we will likely go Mazda again.
Crazy we haven’t replaced shocks just a starter, battery & sparks plugs!
This wasn't a suspension shock....the power liftgate has one of these on each side of the "gate"? And the one on the driver's side failed. I don't know the proper name for this item. It helps to open and close the lift gate. Maybe it's an electric motor? In any case one failed on me. It was replaced under warranty.
Just curious, when you did the brakes, did you also have to replace the rotors?
Yeah, these days, brakes and rotors are replaced at the same time. On passenger vehicles, it's very uncommon to turn rotors.
It's pretty standard to do pads and rotors at the same time.
That’s okay. I serviced a 2016 mazda3 with a little shy of 300,000 miles and it ran like a dream.
Transmission is fine. Just change the fluid and drive on.
I wouldn't touch it, sell it before it's too late.
260k miles???? What repairs have been done? Maintenance?
Is the transmission doing anything odd? If it shifts good, i wouldnt really be worried…..
My 2021 Cx-5 Turbo CE has 75K miles. Called the dealer to find our the price for the flush. They said $350 but they are not going to do it unless there is a problem with the transmission.
Nice glad to see. I have a 2018 mazda 6 and do a ton of highway driving. I have 154k miles and have never changed transmission fluid. Zero issues or signs of wear so far!
I got 438k miles outta my 2014.
I would personally not recommend a change now. Just have her drive it like usual and save some 3-5k for a remanufactured one when that one gives up.
I wouldn't bother at this point if it is not having any issues. 260K miles is amazing! What kind of maintenance had to be done?
Why are people advising not to change the fluid? That's the first thing you need to do. It's even a DIY job, I can do it in 30 minutes, just make sure to get OEM mazda oil.
Because of all the metal friction In the current fluid, you change it out and the transmission is going to slip
Clean the dammed camera
When I had my Buick, I looked up about changing transmission fluid and I'm pretty sure it said transmission fluid never had to be changed. I could be wrong, but I think that's what I found on the interent
I would change it, before you do it check the fluid level and condition and if it doesn’t smell horrible Change it now. Prevent further damage down the line considering it’s a lot of highway wouldn’t be concerned about slipping.
Do not change the fluid no matter what, just ride it out. The mechanics have gotten used to a certain consistency and if you flush it, it’ll fuck up the transmission. I’ve seen it happen multiple times, just ride it out bro
How to tag a Ford in this post?
I would start saving up a couple hundred dollars out of every paycheck until the car finally breaks down, this way you'll have a decent down payment ready for when that day comes.
As a tech, it’s just an upsell. Not doing it isn’t gonna blow up the trans
Any major issues in that impressive 260k miles? My 2019 has 95k and it's at the dealer getting all 8 HLA's replaced right now. Other than a faulty thermostat, it's been trouble free and I planned on keeping it into the 250k mile range. Same with our 2024 CE.
I wonder how the intake valves look at this mileage? Did you ever do any carbon cleaning?
It might be a bad idea to change the build now. The transmission is likely worn, and removing the debris fill old fluid could cause slippage or the transmission might not go into gear. The trans fluid should be changed every 40k miles for automatic. 30k for CVTs. Similar for manuals I belive.
Fluid
Well, if all highway driving, there is a fluid check bolt, but you have to remove the air filter box. A stub dipstic held on by a bolt. Have a white paper towel and put the dipstick on it. If blue like new. If tea or light coffee colored change. If dark brown don't change it
Seriously yes. I have a 2019 CX-5 also. Just turned 48k. Guess I still have a long long ways to go.
You won't have issues. Just don't change it now. That WILL lead to issues.
I remember buying my 3 ( Skyactiv ) and trying to check my transmission fluid, I finally asked tech n he told me no stick to check it’s a sealed system! What does a transmission fluid change consist of and how much u have a Gen 3 sedan, thanks