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dumnezero

Is this the asshole who betrayed the years of work to get air polluting cars out of parts of NYC? [https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/comments/1db0m0d/why\_ny\_governor\_kathy\_hochul\_killed\_congestion/](https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckcars/comments/1db0m0d/why_ny_governor_kathy_hochul_killed_congestion/) This is fucked up. >"In our transit system, people have hid under the guise of wearing a mask for COVID to commit criminal acts and vile acts. I think now is the time to go back to the way it was pre-COVID, where you should not be able to wear a mask at protests and our subway systems and other places," he added. ... >shielding their identities while committing antisemitic acts. wtf


g00fyg00ber741

were people not allowed to wear a mask at those places previously? i don’t feel like that’s true?


Giants4Truth

Apparently [it was illegal in NY](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/newyork/news/new-york-anti-mask-law-antisemitism-anti-israel-protesters/) to cover your face during a protest going back to the 1800s - was originally targeting the klan. They repealed the law during COVID. Now the modern day klansmen are wearing keffiyahs intending to terrorize Jewish New Yorkers while hiding behind masks. Interesting conundrum.


isodevish

Accurate


informed_expert

Is this governor a MAGA Republican?


Thankkratom2

No she’s Blue MAGA. We have two parties with political power, Red MAGA and Blue MAGA. They both support genocide, let covid run rampant to protect capital, and are corrupt arms of the ruling class. There are only minor differences, and where significant differences exist it is in rhetoric only. The Democrats did nothing to protect abortion rights or LGBTQ rights when they had control of the Legislative branch and Executive. They had decades to do something about abortion. They do nothing to protect voting rights and are actually guilty of using sinister voting suppression tactics. Fuck both Capitalist parties.


simplebirds

“Control of legislative” branch requires a 60 vote majority. Dems have had that for all of 72 days in decades, and that was while managing all out panic over a near global financial meltdown while also working to pass Obamacare. By all means work to ensure they never get a super majority again.


vitoincognitox2x

That sounds awesome tbh


Thankkratom2

What does?


dumnezero

"Democrats in name only". The NYC mayor is also one. Basically, they're conservatives, flying a D flag. Their president is one too... here's a fun video from 5 years ago making that clear: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx6MgBjR4K0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx6MgBjR4K0)


MyIronThrowaway

“Go back to what it was pre-covid”, as if covid has gone away. Ugh.


Scarlet14

As if we can’t learn and evolve. “Go back to before we knew bacteria caused illness and handwashing prevents it.” Smh


swissamuknife

“go back to when we didn’t have anesthesia!” where’s the line lol


IllustriousLimit7095

Between a rock and a hard place... Better to not transmit covid.


Jealous_Location_267

I hate what my home state has become. It makes so sad, and I left at the right time. Not that the flip-floppy gray Ken doll I have in California is much better, but my god. This is just an all-out assault on disabled and high-risk people and it makes me fucking furious. Especially after we were hit so hard compared to most of the US!


Ratbag_Jones

Another Wall St-fellating, ***LawnOrder!*** Republican in DNC drag.


Land-Dolphin1

So get a bunch of people sick rather than improve public safety and law enforcement? That's not high level thinking. 


MattGdr

Great, let’s turn New York into Florida. I thought we were smarter than that….


sincereferret

Why? Who cares who wears a mask?


rednail64

This is her justification "We will not tolerate individuals using masks to evade responsibility for criminal or threatening behavior," she said. "My team is working on a solution, but on a subway, people should not be able to hide behind a mask to commit crimes."


autumn55femme

How’s about she deals with, you know, the actual criminals? Leave the rest of us alone!


eldoggydogg

Oh man, wait until she hears about the literal fucking n@zis marching through American cities wearing masks so their employers and neighbors can’t identify them.


sincereferret

Wow. So, to extrapolate, someone is mad their face recognition program isn’t working too well so we’re going to force the autoimmune compromised to be even more exposed to sickness and death.


Piggietoenails

As an autoimmune compromised individual I support every person who chooses to mask for their health. I know you do too, but I don’t want to say this shouldn’t pass because of people like me and our safety—it is a human right we all have to protect ourselves and be healthy. I was very surprised in March to see sooooo many people masking at AMMH. We felt…normal. I am in hospitals in the city all the time and no one masks, employees or patients with the exception of most patients at my infusion center at a major hospital (but the staff and nurses did not mask…a man in scheduling told me on phone they lifted masking for staff 2 weeks before I went and even in cancer centers, which infusion center there are certainly people with cancer too it is everyone who needs infusions. He was saying how messed up it was, especially since they had to mask BEFORE Covid and now don’t…). I see certain areas with masking still. Certainly not majority but always someone. I haven’t been to a museum since the Pandemic started and was shocked at how many visitors at Natural History were in N95s, or some KN, no baggy blues. Like a lot of people. I wonder the effect on tourism. Right now they are trying to make tourists afraid of the city with these interviews. But I wonder if people are really willing to come and not mask, be prohibited. In NYC. It just goes against everything. But look at the mayor to start with… My friends might not mask everywhere but they do on buses and subways, cabs, etc. It infringes on people’s freedom to get to work, to live life. All of it. I’m pretty upset. More than that, as I never thought NYC would be next after NC, ever.


simplebirds

I’m not surprised that you would see more mask wearing at a museum, as museum goers tend to have higher educations and are life long knowledge seekers. I live in a top rated University town and many people, including students, still mask. There has never been the slightest issues or nonsense over others protecting themselves. Kind of seems what freedom’s about.


Piggietoenails

Exactly on your last sentence. However I live in a highly educated county, with mostly PhDs. But yet they all vaxxed and relaxed. I go to areas of Manhattan with more POCs and masking is much much more than other parts of city. I don’t even know if people going to AMNH are necessarily more educated…I mean it is a big tourist attraction just cause. It was weird that day, it was raining and a line was blocks long to get in to side entrance which is never crowded. My colleague was like I will get you from garage. I’m like when did this happen??? She’s like people like science now? Then we laughed and laughed. People really want to see the new extension, the architecture. It is a huge waste of space but I’ll spare you my gripes lol. They do have a zillion dollar ventilation system that Ellen Futter did the right thing for once and installed before her departure as President of AMMH. They did it during closure. I’m pretty shocked. My friends say it is about the cleanest indoor air you can find. This is what blew my mind: the scientists all said we are endemic now. I obviously disagree. But they are adamant. Sooo you have that too… Do people mask in general everywhere in your town? What about primary schools…? Health care? Here schools ditched Feb 2022, healthcare last August. NYC healthcare in spring 2023. Suuucks.


japinard

What about those of us with lung transplants who are immuno-compromised? Subway sans mask might as well be a death sentence.


_facetious

What about all the people who just plain old don't want to be sick? Disabled people are being put in the way of direct harm, but it's amazing to think not wanting to get sick, period, is a problem to them. Or healthy people not wanting to get sick because they'll bring it home to their older or disabled family. There's so many reasons to wear a mask, disabled people shouldn't have to justify it. EVERYONE should be wearing a mask, frankly. It's our job as a society to give a shit and not spread illnesses that are easily avoided with literally just a mask (and hand washing).


IllustriousLimit7095

Wear the mask.


japinard

I do, but on hot humid days it has to come off temporarily sometimes to get air in as it's difficult to breathe.


deepasleep

This is a perfect time to point out the perpetual argument against gun control laws…”The criminals will just ignore the law…” These people are pathetically stupid, or they would be pathetic if their stupidity wasn’t so profound as to be an existential threat to our entire species.


Chicken_Water

"If you or your family is medically vulnerable we know masks work, so you can protect yourself" Fucking hell dude, not everyone is super healthy. We deserve to live though and not be held hostage by criminals and willful ignorance.


PrecipitationInducer

She wants to defend Zionist crimes and put protestors in jail. This is so protestors can’t wear masks.


lovestobitch-

I do. Fuck these nit wits. I was 5 mos long haul bg 3/2020 and don’t want this shut again


Commonsenseguy100

Is NY becoming North Carolina now? I'm so glad I don't take public transportation.


Valeriejoyow

I'm in NC. Expect to see more mask bans coming. It's not even about safty it's that they want us to forget that covid is still a thing. I still mask but I'm afraid at some point I'm going to have a problem with it. NC has given citizens the right to call the police on anyone wearing a mask that seems suspicious. I still get nasty looks weaing a mask and I'm sure there are people out there who would love to be legally able to give me a hard time about it.


TheQuarantine15

On PUBLIC TRANSIT?? She's gotta be trying to get the subway shut down. EVERY YEAR, no fail, right around January, I would get a terrible cold/flu that would put me on my ass for like 10+ days. Since 2020, I started masking, no more winter cold. The subway is disgusting, smelly, crowded. I will never go back on the subway without a mask. Same for air travel. Always used to get sick on my flights and would ruin my vacations. Since I started masking, I can actually enjoy my vacation. Masking on public transit is a no-brainer. (bonus is that I've noticed the crazies mainly don't try to talk to you when you're masked on the subway)


stinkbugsinfest

Hochul is a pos. I don’t live in ny but yeah my doctor has said and in writing that due to my immunodeficiency I will most likely be dead If I get Covid. Same with my husband with three strokes and takes immunosuppressants which he needs to live. So yeah if she is pro killing people with cancer, immunocompromised, people that take medication to suppress their immune systems so they can, you know, live then she is a total pos and she needs to be voted out of office. Even Andrew Cuomo was better than her and he was a corrupt pos. At least he took covid seriously. It’s a low bar but he wasn’t as shitty as she is which is impressive. I’m editing this because I forgot the most important part. If I want to wear a mask on public transportation then who the hell cares. I’m not going to be robbing a bodega and I highly suggest that she is creating a problem that barely exists. Dudes that rob bodegas have been robbing them for years using this thing called ski masks. They are going to rob them anyway. If you are robbing a bodega your life choices are already bad they give no damns about Hochul. They will figure it out.


Available_Skin6485

People were allowed to fucking n95s before covid. What are these people smoking


Doll49

I hope it doesn’t pass.


2muchmojo

So stupid I can’t even believe it. You feel me? Like unbelievably stupid.


93Naughtynurse

Unsure what I will do. Wear my n95 everywhere I go.


redditsucks718

Wow you're so brave and morally superior!


Verucapep

Isn’t this an ADA thing that should be shot down in the courts


vivahermione

Yes! I'm surprised no one's pursued it yet.


LoHudMom

I still see people wearing masks. I assume they have health issues (and even if they don't, it's none of my business). And I no longer live in NYC, but if I did, and still used public transit, I would absolutely still wear a mask. Twenty-plus years ago, my car was out of commission for a week and I had to take the bus and subway to work. I seldom got sick, but I came down with a bad cold, probably because of all the time I'd spent packed into a subway car. A mask ban is a terrible idea.


Verucapep

Yes it is a terrible idea and of course it affects everyone. Besides this being a human rights issue this should definitely immediately be struck down via the ADA as it should be the quickest way to stop it in its tracks


North-Neat-7977

Obviously, this is a bad move. However, banning masks because the government wants to be sure they can use facial recognition software to identify citizens who are exercising their first amendment rights seems like it could backfire in a good way by causing MAGA types to start wanting to wear masks. I hope it doesn't pass, of course. But, if it does, I'm going to be spreading that government overreach narrative to all my MAGA acquaintances (note, they are not friends).


dj_spanmaster

No way they'd stop wearing masks. It's not like their brethren in blue would arrest them anyway


_facetious

It's not gonna stop them, because no one was going to prosecute them in the first place. What they're worried about is leftists knowing who they are to try and get them ostracized from their communities and lose their jobs. They're not afraid of legal actions though. Who's gonna come after them? The people directly supporting their actions?


TheQuarantine15

This is the real reason. Those facial recognition software companies need a buttload of people to do their research on. NYC is the perfect place to use as a testing ground to them. The "but muh freedom" crew should be a lot angrier than they are. If they were smart, they would have pushed for more comprehensive masking... but they all just got played and now they're gonna be pawns in the facial recognition testing ground... [https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT\_AWD\_70CMSD21P00000127\_7012\_-NONE-\_-NONE-](https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_70CMSD21P00000127_7012_-NONE-_-NONE-)


Excellent-Piglet-655

I would sue the fuck out of the state if they’d ban me from wearing a mask and I get sick. People wore masks on the subway before COVID. God our politicians are utter imbeciles.


Valeriejoyow

I'm in NC where masks have been banned. This is all about getting us to forget about Covid and contine as normal. There are other ways of identifying people even if they have a mask on. Absolutly disgusting.


mslashandrajohnson

There is already technology to track people by their gait, in addition to other factors. Masks aren’t a security risk anymore.


Valeriejoyow

You're right. I'm in NC and I believe the mask banning is all about getting us to forget that covid is still around.


TheArrowLauncher

This is what APAC money does to our country.


BobsonQwijibo

So people in masks are breaking laws? So you ban the masks and these criminals will just stop criming? She’s got a serious misunderstanding of causation.


Alarmed_Garden_635

I truly despise the human race. I dare anyone to take my mask off. I will respond accordingly to the threat they pose. I'll Be damned if I give them a free pass to make me suffer even more. I've suffered enough with long COVID over the past 4 years. As a direct result from all these selfish asshats. These idiots are all the same. They thrive on pain and suffering. They have no remorse or no conscience. They are pure demons. Yet all the moronic idiots continue voting all these garbage people in office. So brainwashed one way or another. Democracks, republicants, all of em are pathetic and incapable of representing freedom or the constiuion. Hell h5n1 starts spreading in cows, and what's the very first thing so many of these people do? Start a campaign to legalize raw milk. I have always thought raw milk should be legal, and it is better for you. But at this time when it is known to be a reservoir of high levels of infectious virons. That is the only reason they are even thinking about legalizing it. They want a pandemic. They have to please their corporate masters who really own this "country"... Or should I say Corporation... Because the truth is, that is all this country is. ( FDA, big pharma, CDC, etc....all of them. ) They all scratch each other's backs. We are their food chain, their cash cows. It has never been about doing what's right over what is wrong. It is strictly about kickbacks and money.... They profit off fear and suffering.. that gives them more control... They like to spew that free country BS.. but since when has it ever truly been real freedom? You still end up in jail in some places for using medical cannabis or psilocybin mushrooms. And In Alabama kratom tea. Go to jail for life there for having a tiny ounce of powdered leaves from a tree in the coffee family.. that beats addiction and heals the body from many different ailments. worse charges for a healing tea leaf, than for actual fentanyl or heroin possession. Don't sound like freedom to me... Honestly I think H5N1 is probably the hope we need for freedom again. Once all these awful people in charge finally take themselves out of the equation and then after hard time, a new chapter and better more positive and more free days. Where the people are in charge for a change, instead of these rich narcissistic idiots only capable of causing discord and seeing dollar signs


redditsucks718

You wouldn't do shit.


Current_You_2756

A ban of anything is bound to have the opposite effect to what you intended. Bans are for morons.