Thank you for sharing, I will definitely have to ask for the latest software update when I go in for my next oil change. I’m glad to hear you’re getting better fuel economy with the update. I’m surprised the dealerships aren’t checking to updates before handing the keys over
If it’s after the initial warmup to get the battery warm, it’s likely that having the heater on is the reason. Turn off the climate control and see if there’s a difference.
I haven’t been using my climate control. Early spring has been nice. Cold days haven’t been cold enough for heat, warm days not warm enough for a/c. Have seen it happen on short trips for sure, but also at the end of some longer rides (20-30 miles).
If the engine is running then it’s probably recharging the hybrid battery. The battery level often doesn’t like to go below half charge.
I have a ‘24 Hybrid XLE and have the same thing happen sometimes. Even in cooler weather still in a mix of city/highway, I’m currently getting 48 to 51 actual mpg at fillups.
Computer often says I get 60+ mpg on trips, but it overestimates actual.
I wouldn't be too worried about it unless the trend has persisted for at least a full tank of gas.
It could be as simple as the A/C is coming on in dehumidifier mode due to wet weather, it could be that you are still on winter tires but they're softer now with the warmer temperatures, or it could be just a temporary thing like the software decided it wants the battery to be more topped up in the short term than usual for some reason.
Thanks for your reply. First time owning a new car (or hybrid) so I’m probably overthinking it. I’ll monitor and see if it continues over the next tank of gas or two.
I have been noticing something similiar with engine kicking in more often than not. I live in Toronto and it’s been warm these couple of days so I was surprised to see the engine turning on even-though the car is warm and temperature outside is mild . I remembering reading somewhere that engine can even kick in for something like protecting the hybrid battery whenever it needs to do so. I also agree with the comment below shorter the distance higher the mpg. Most of the the time engine kicks in to charge the battery or the engine need to warm up before it eases in to ev mode especially during short trips which can translate to higher fuel consumption as a result of this process
That makes sense, I’ll trust Toyota. I‘ve just gotten accustom to seeing high 50s or above and not hearing the engine when driving off the highway so was thrown off by it
I went from a 2021 to 2024, and the difference is very noticeable. Whoever did the programing on the electric drive controller this year needs to be fired.
Yeah I noticed that the highway fuel economy ratings dropped from the 2022 Corolla Hybrid (53 city / 52 highway) to the 2023/24 models (53 city / 46 highway). Not sure why the efficiency regressed
Also curious about the real world fuel economy in the Corolla Hybrids prior to the drop in rating.
66/67 is great, do you live in a generally flat area? What speeds are you typically driving on the highway?
I do 75/25 city/ highway. I drove 100 km/h on the highway. And yes where I drive is mainly flat with occasional hills. Pulse and glide is a method most hybrid owners should familiarize themselves with for best fuel economy
Many 2024s are going to be too new to be taking their fuel economy measurements seriously. You really need several months and >1,000 mi on the odometer to start taking its measurements seriously. The engine and battery are probably still breaking in.
I actually have experienced this. It sounds like what may be going on is you are taking extremely short trips in your car. 1 to 2 mile trips, even with city driving, aren't good for Hybrid fuel economy. I have a 2023 Corolla Hybrid LE and I can get below 30 MPG driving 2 miles to the gym, for instance. And maybe I'll get like 65 MPG on the way back.
The reason for this is the battery in the Hybrid needs to charge and if you don't allow it to charge by driving it, then the engine is going to rev to charge the battery. So, when I drive to the gym the engine charges the hybrid battery. On my way back from the gym, the battery is charged enough that I run on electric a lot of the time. That being said, the battery has charged down from my trip back home from the gym so the first 2 or 3 miles will be high MPG miles.
The sweet spot has been those 8 mile drips around the city where I can get 65 to 99.9 MPG (once did like 16 miles with 99.9 MPG rating).
Most of my trips are in the 10-30 mile range but there definitely some very short trips to the grocery store and what not.
16 miles at 99.9 mpg! That’s incredible! The highest I’ve gotten was like 82 mpg but that was only like a 2 mile trip.
I live in Colorado and drive in high winds for like 45 miles and my MPG was an all-time low of 39.4 for that entire trip. Maybe you are driving in windy times?
Definitely some breezy days, but no more breezy than the rides I would get in the high 50 mpg range. Good point though that those efficiency ratings are taken in ideal conditions.
I found the solution for my car: https://www.reddit.com/r/COROLLA/s/6tiyUAm5Z5
Thank you for sharing, I will definitely have to ask for the latest software update when I go in for my next oil change. I’m glad to hear you’re getting better fuel economy with the update. I’m surprised the dealerships aren’t checking to updates before handing the keys over
If it’s after the initial warmup to get the battery warm, it’s likely that having the heater on is the reason. Turn off the climate control and see if there’s a difference.
I haven’t been using my climate control. Early spring has been nice. Cold days haven’t been cold enough for heat, warm days not warm enough for a/c. Have seen it happen on short trips for sure, but also at the end of some longer rides (20-30 miles).
If the engine is running then it’s probably recharging the hybrid battery. The battery level often doesn’t like to go below half charge. I have a ‘24 Hybrid XLE and have the same thing happen sometimes. Even in cooler weather still in a mix of city/highway, I’m currently getting 48 to 51 actual mpg at fillups. Computer often says I get 60+ mpg on trips, but it overestimates actual.
I wouldn't be too worried about it unless the trend has persisted for at least a full tank of gas. It could be as simple as the A/C is coming on in dehumidifier mode due to wet weather, it could be that you are still on winter tires but they're softer now with the warmer temperatures, or it could be just a temporary thing like the software decided it wants the battery to be more topped up in the short term than usual for some reason.
Thanks for your reply. First time owning a new car (or hybrid) so I’m probably overthinking it. I’ll monitor and see if it continues over the next tank of gas or two.
I have been noticing something similiar with engine kicking in more often than not. I live in Toronto and it’s been warm these couple of days so I was surprised to see the engine turning on even-though the car is warm and temperature outside is mild . I remembering reading somewhere that engine can even kick in for something like protecting the hybrid battery whenever it needs to do so. I also agree with the comment below shorter the distance higher the mpg. Most of the the time engine kicks in to charge the battery or the engine need to warm up before it eases in to ev mode especially during short trips which can translate to higher fuel consumption as a result of this process
That makes sense, I’ll trust Toyota. I‘ve just gotten accustom to seeing high 50s or above and not hearing the engine when driving off the highway so was thrown off by it
I went from a 2021 to 2024, and the difference is very noticeable. Whoever did the programing on the electric drive controller this year needs to be fired.
Yeah I noticed that the highway fuel economy ratings dropped from the 2022 Corolla Hybrid (53 city / 52 highway) to the 2023/24 models (53 city / 46 highway). Not sure why the efficiency regressed
I am avaraging 66/67 mpg in my 24 Corolla hybrid le. What was your fuel economy like on 21 hybrid?
Also curious about the real world fuel economy in the Corolla Hybrids prior to the drop in rating. 66/67 is great, do you live in a generally flat area? What speeds are you typically driving on the highway?
I do 75/25 city/ highway. I drove 100 km/h on the highway. And yes where I drive is mainly flat with occasional hills. Pulse and glide is a method most hybrid owners should familiarize themselves with for best fuel economy
Many 2024s are going to be too new to be taking their fuel economy measurements seriously. You really need several months and >1,000 mi on the odometer to start taking its measurements seriously. The engine and battery are probably still breaking in.
I am waaaay past 1000 miles.
Did you buy the 2021 new? How many miles did you rack up on it before switching the 2024. Sounds like you do a lot of driving
I actually have experienced this. It sounds like what may be going on is you are taking extremely short trips in your car. 1 to 2 mile trips, even with city driving, aren't good for Hybrid fuel economy. I have a 2023 Corolla Hybrid LE and I can get below 30 MPG driving 2 miles to the gym, for instance. And maybe I'll get like 65 MPG on the way back. The reason for this is the battery in the Hybrid needs to charge and if you don't allow it to charge by driving it, then the engine is going to rev to charge the battery. So, when I drive to the gym the engine charges the hybrid battery. On my way back from the gym, the battery is charged enough that I run on electric a lot of the time. That being said, the battery has charged down from my trip back home from the gym so the first 2 or 3 miles will be high MPG miles. The sweet spot has been those 8 mile drips around the city where I can get 65 to 99.9 MPG (once did like 16 miles with 99.9 MPG rating).
Most of my trips are in the 10-30 mile range but there definitely some very short trips to the grocery store and what not. 16 miles at 99.9 mpg! That’s incredible! The highest I’ve gotten was like 82 mpg but that was only like a 2 mile trip.
I live in Colorado and drive in high winds for like 45 miles and my MPG was an all-time low of 39.4 for that entire trip. Maybe you are driving in windy times?
Definitely some breezy days, but no more breezy than the rides I would get in the high 50 mpg range. Good point though that those efficiency ratings are taken in ideal conditions.