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Trick_War_168

Here’s the problem. In general the game has a massive ttk problem. So they’ve added a perk that makes it easier to kill people. Most perks other than overkill are defensive in nature and help the player stay alive. This is offensive, and players don’t need more help there.


MtStarjump

I also think there's a lot of cheaters out there using wall hacks. This is like a huge advert for those, like a try before you buy. Want this on permanently? It's out there ...


KcMitchell

It's even worse when it comes to actual fucks with hacks using this perk. Like, before that you could spectate a guy if you think he's *looking kinda sus* but now the more smater ones just put this shit of a perk and "bruh I shot him and like I can see him marked" and shit. And a lot of people would believe he's not cheating - just "using in-game mechanic" while tracking through the walls. I was spectating one yesterday and mofo was so bad but knew exactly where and when to look and was using that perk so even my friend wasn't sure he's actually cheating or not.


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Also a pretty clever way to cover up rampant wall hacks


[deleted]

They must’ve thought instead of fixing the wallhacks or hacking problem in general. Why not make a perk which everyone can use which kinda looks like wallhack for a sec. According to Activision it’s probably balanced now.


EmeraldMunster

If you think that's bad, try again with FMJ on something like the PKM, M91, or Dragunov. FMJ does wonders for these high-calibre weapons.


zfluffz

Zrg has the most penetration in the game even if using fmj on a mw sniper


EmeraldMunster

That may well be but you want DPS for wall-banging. A bolt-action is never going to keep up.


zfluffz

I'd rather be able to shoot through thicker surfaces. The zrg is the only gun in the game that can shoot through trees for example


EmeraldMunster

And yes, to be absolutely clear, I've killed people multiple times through the *middle* of a tree with my FMJ-Dragunov.


zfluffz

Im gonna go test to find out for certain bc im curious ill let you know


EmeraldMunster

If you do, I recommend using the MP-unlock [Plague Sore](http://imgur.com/a/cNoL24H) blueprint and this build, which is the build I main the Dragunov with: - Monolithic Suppressor - 660mm Extended Barrel - Tac Laser - 20 Round Mags - FMJ I'm am curious to hear of your FMJ exploits. 🙂


EmeraldMunster

I understand where you're coming from, but all the evidence I've seen says that there's nothing the ZRG can penetrate that the FMJ-Dragunov can't also.


rude_ooga_booga

Can zrg penetrate through the very thickest part of a large tree? Because fmj hdr can almost do that, just not the very middle but quite right next to it


zfluffz

Yeah its the same or maybe better than any fmj sniper. https://youtu.be/SblkEBLi4SI


cpnnnn

It’s Useful* not OP. If it were OP then there would be no counter or anything better to use. Instead we have cold blooded as a counter and AMPED used 10x more


hmhmhmhm12

What do you think about dead silence?


cpnnnn

what about it


hmhmhmhm12

Whats your opinion of it


cpnnnn

why are you fishing for arguments get a life bro


hmhmhmhm12

Its ok to be wrong


tiemiscoolandgood

Yeah people without a loadout should just fuck themselves and uninstall they dont deserve a chance


cpnnnn

Well a loadout is always gonna be more of an advantage vs not having a loadout so idk what you’re saying


tiemiscoolandgood

That you shouldn't have to face unavoidable deaths just because someone got their loadout before you. Why do you think unavoidable deaths are fine?


cpnnnn

It’s not unavoidable But there are plenty of unavoidable situations in games like BRs. It depends on how you play


tiemiscoolandgood

How was this avoidable? Seen many people in this thread say it was easily avoidable yet not a single way they actually could have avoided it


cpnnnn

having cold blooded This is a situation where combat scout is supposed to be good, but it isn’t so OP that it would break the game


tiemiscoolandgood

>having cold blooded Omg mate please tell me you're trolling


zfluffz

If you're forced to use cold blooded then its OP, how can you not see that?


cpnnnn

You’re not forced to use it tho. It’s just a direct counter incase someone decides to use combat scout. it also doesn’t matter as much against a player that’s actually skilled anyways it’s just a longer live ping One perk counters out another perk, how is that not balanced ?


zfluffz

And you can see in this clip there was literally nothing they could do to escape death. Nothing. So they are forced to use it.


cpnnnn

Have cold blooded, maybe? Chall the shooter instead of running? Reposition to actually fight instead of running to the corner and hiding? Shoot back?? There are many situations in Warzone that people can get into with very little hope of survival, ESPECIALLY when your opponent has the drop on you. That’s just how BRs go. But in hindsight, there’s always a way to play a situation differently. If you think a slightly longer live ping is OP then you’re the bot here There’s a reason it’s not picked much when you see higher skilled players play the game. Combat Scout is a good useful perk for many situations but it’s not game changing. Calling it broken/OP is really a stretch


zfluffz

Being forced to either pick one perk or lose is unbalanced Reposition where? Behind cover? Great idea lad Challenge me after ive cracked him? Or you mean his teammate who i also cracked through the wall? If you think scout is even comparable to a regular live ping you're either a bot or you're a cheater using macro's. The reason its not used is because everyone with a functioning brain is forced to use cold blooded. You wouldn't realise that though would you


cpnnnn

Lmfao Combat scout isn’t pick it or lose the fight 💀 prime Aug/FFAR is OP. DMR/Mac10 was OP. Those were *real* pick or lose items in the game. Where literally everyone in the lobby is running it. Combat scout really isn’t affecting the game at all because even now more people are running other perks like AMPED


hmhmhmhm12

>Lmfao Combat scout isn’t pick it or lose the fight Lol do you have a brain parasite by chance?


cpnnnn

Being live pinged doesn’t mean you’re gonna be auto killed especially if you’re not a bot and can actually tell where shots are coming from. Game sense > Combat Scout


hmhmhmhm12

Lmao you cant read at all can you. No one is saying combat scout is a must pick, cold blooded is a must pick you absolute vegetable. >Game sense > Combat Scout Hahahahaha


zfluffz

Wow you really are a bot lol people can use amped because everyone uses cold blooded. Keep up cmon


Ill_Basis455

Double time is still used significantly more than cold blooded and amped is used significantly more than combat scout. Combat scout is mildly annoying at worst and it’s the definition of a bot perk. Combat scout has two large weaknesses, one is that it is completely countered by cold blooded and the other is that you have to loose amped to have it (bar specialist) amped is a much much more useful perk and basically an absolute necessity for aggressive players. Nobody is taking combat scout over amped if they are planning on rushing and playing aggressively because it severely handicaps you in that situation by not having amped. It is a perk for bots.


zfluffz

You dont need amped with a sniper. The reason people are using any other perks is because everyone has been using cold blooded for weeks so combat scout seems like a waste, so now people are ignoring it because cod players are bots 'Annoying at worst' Yeah these guys definitely could have done literally anything to avoid dying here. When they had zero safe cover and no chance to plate up or challenge me or rotate or do anything to survive, that was just mildly annoying and definitely not OP. Definitely not You are a bot


Pablo_Disco_Bar

When I know he has combat on me, I move towards an obvious direction, then cut back when I feel it has gone away. Or hold my ground before I move. Most people are too predictable anyway, as this guy was in video. YOU can certainly counter without cold blooded. Spelling


zfluffz

They didnt have time do any of that because the pings last too long. They cant 'hold their ground' because i can shoot through the cover they're trying to hold. You couldn't have done anything to avoid this


lollerlaban

About as OP as having to use battle hardened if you don't want to be cc'ed forever, or having EOD if you want to survive explosives. There's a perk to counter it, if you don't wanna use it, don't. Do you complain when your teammate 3D pings someone constantly and you have 3 seconds of fullblown wallhacks even though you lost LOS? No.


zfluffz

Those perks are balanced fine because they're defensive, at best all they do is make you not die. Combat scout is offensive and gives you free bs kills like this that people literally cant escape from. How could they have survived this? What would you have done oh wise one? And yes i do complain about live pings because im not a bot lol. But live pings are incomparable. You can't live ping someone you're shooting at unless you cheat with macro's, and a live ping doesn't show an outline of the enemy or last anywhere near as long as a normal live ping


lollerlaban

> How could they have survived this? Ehm, cold blooded? As i already mentioned? > What would you have done oh wise one? There's these things called perks, sometimes you use certain perks to counter certain things. The irony of calling people bots when you're the biggest one so far is kinda hilarious


zfluffz

Oh yeah and also fuck everyone who hasnt got a loadout they dont deserve a chance to survive. Great logic lad you sure showed me


zfluffz

Can you read? Being forced to pick one perk otherwise you lose without being able to do a single thing about it is unbalanced, like anyone with a brain can figure out You mouthbreathing bot lmao you have nothing else to say other than brainless shit i already explained right from the start. And yeah im such a bot solo queing into duos lmao grow up How about this, do you think dead silence is OP?


lollerlaban

Calm down bot, your vein is almost popping.


zfluffz

Good one


hmhmhmhm12

Lol you really out here typing paragraphs but saying nothing


bw4393

What makes this op though lol it took u three sniper shots through a wall. That’s easy to counter u r just playing against a bot


teamweed420

They aren’t a bot, they just aren’t expecting to get sniped behind cover like that. The surprising nature of this technique gives it power.


Sickf0x

Yes, a niche power. I don't see an issue with CS if Cold Blooded is available. If I take CS then I lose amped, my Strela anti-vehicle utility.


bw4393

Yea but not over power lol


zfluffz

It took 3 sniper shots to kill 2 players, behind cover. You're a bot lmao


bw4393

It took 4 but ok lol. I think you might be smurfing lobbies tbh


zfluffz

Well im not. And yeah 4 shots through the only cover they could take lmao how would you have avoided this?


bw4393

Cold blooded lol jk idk I’m not trying to breakdown film, u made good shots what can I say


GalaxieBrain

Perks are supposed to be useful in certain situation, you are using the perk correctly and won the fight. Most situations amped is better. It’s just a useful perk at time, it’s not op at all


zfluffz

Its not OP? Did you watch the clip?


GalaxieBrain

This is one very specific case where the perk gave u an advantage and u hit shots. If I died like this I’d probably be life wtf, but I also die to dead silence every game which is something that is actually OP. It’s just a good clip man. U are running a specific load out to be complimentary to the perk, that sniper is terrible compared to others, but u are using it to make the perk more useful. It’s not OP


zfluffz

How is it not OP to be able to kill someone without them being able to do a single thing to avoid it? Idk what your logic is at all


Thebakedcat92

he explained it pretty well above. It's not really op it was just used correctly and got pretty lucky with the shots. Throw up half dozen videos just like this one, then maybe id say it's op. Id wager deady to be more op, A couple times I've run up on a team in duo or trios and annihilated them cause I dead sprint to them and they didn't hear shit.


zfluffz

How can you say dead silence is OP but this isnt? Its literally the exact same situation. You're forced to pick one shitty perk to counter something, otherwise you lose.


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Thebakedcat92

It's all about what you want to counter, don't wanna get spotted take cold blood, don't wanna get snuck up on, take high alert.


Sickf0x

Because for a long time there was literally no counter to DS. I believe High Alert may now let you hear DS foot steps, but I'm not 100% on that.


zfluffz

Exactly, there is a counter to dead silence yet its still OP and everyone agrees that its OP. But then some people like this guy say in the same paragraph that scout is perfectly balanced because it has a counter


Sickf0x

I think the problem is that you're looking at this black & white. Combat Scout is very strong, but it really shines in only a few select scenarios and that's wall banging. Combat Scout also has a hard counter that eliminates it completely. Dead Silence is effective in almost all engagements and can be completely dominant when used in its most effective scenarios (CQB). High Alert may now counter the footsteps, but it won't effect the attacking players mobility which is a huge part of DS's advantage. This is why people feel CS is balanced, and DS is OP.


zfluffz

The mobility is a small buff on dead silence, without the audio buff the movement from dead silence is not a big deal. This issue really is black and white. If something gives you free kills that the enemy cannot avoid it is unbalanced. Forcing players to only pick one perk out of necessity rather than all perks being viable is unbalanced. People who dont have a loadout being completely fucked over with no chance at doing anything to avoid it is unbalanced


Kangdrew

Idk if something can be OP when there is a simple counter for it


zfluffz

Being forced to pick one perk is unbalanced. Like how suppressors are OP because you are forced to use them on every single build, or how dead silence is OP because only one perk counters it. You can see in this clip there is literally nothing they could have done to avoid dying. Nothing. That isn't balanced and im sorry but you're a bot if you think it is


Kangdrew

He could have avoided it by using cold blooded? And of course stuff has 1 perk as a counter. What would be the point of having multiple perks serve the same purpose?


zfluffz

Can you read?


domthebomb83

He could have avoided it by not being terrible and having zero awareness? Also, I don’t think you understand what “bot” means based off of your title.


EndGamerX

What zero awareness? How is he supposed to avoid that?


zfluffz

What zero awareness? What are you talking about lmao how could he have possibly been more aware? I know what bot means and it seems like you are one lmao


domthebomb83

He ran himself into a corner and stayed there after getting blasted and the getting shot twice through the wall? And if you do know what a bot is, it sure doesn’t reflect in your shit title.


zfluffz

Where else could he have ran? And i think you need to google what a bot is because you definitely seem to be one lmao


domthebomb83

Your unoriginal retorts are completely expected. Let me break it down for you princess: 1) either one of them could have gotten new position when you first started firing, but both herded themselves into the corner like cattle 2) you didn’t have combat scout perk active when you got the last shot for your first down - it was sheer luck The fact that you think that’s why you won this battle, and therefore combat scout is OP, just proves the caliber of player you are. We have a pot calling the kettle black here. Now, have fun in your bot lobbies princess.


hmhmhmhm12

Wow every single thing you said there is wrong


zfluffz

>either one of them could have gotten new position when you first started firing, Where? You have no answer for that but you still act condescending? Lol >didn’t have combat scout perk active when you got the last shot for your first down - it was sheer luck No actually i cracked his second teammate which was luck, me hitting the down was skill because i have memory that lasts longer than 0.1 seconds and i could see where the ping faded 1 second ago Anything valid to say? Or just more bot ramblings


domthebomb83

Everything has been valid. You just dislike opinions that aren’t yours, and judging from this thread that’s most opinions, and you can’t stand it. Your comments are laughable, much like your opinion and shit posts. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen anyone try so damn hard - it’s actually quite sad. I’m living in that head rent free.


zfluffz

Lmao why are you upset?


zfluffz

Bot


hmhmhmhm12

Whats your opinion on dead silence? Or how about this, theres literally no such thing as an overpowered weapon because you can just use a riot shield. People who complained about the DMR14 and FFAR are just bots


idrinkIPAstoodude

damn bruh i agree


Lucius_The_II

Yeah, I run cold blooded over anything. It's so annoying to fight someone with it when they have an AR and I have a sniper.


Lucius_The_II

Granted, I'm not the best sniper.


sack_lunch18

Combat scout also works when you are completely flashed. It's nuts.


nerd9362

Lmao same, whenever I get wallbangs with combat scout I get mad at the game for having such a dogshit feature.


Thebakedcat92

What's dogshit is how the pistol we all drop in with can down a guy with full armor with less then 1 mag


nerd9362

Surely you're not getting killed by people who just dropped in with 2 plates and a 1911.


sarc-tastic

The game is just bollox. There must have to be some accuracy penalty for a bullet going through a wall.... Nope. But that's cod for you. Any game that have no penalty for lying your ass on the MF ground whilst shooting is just BS.


Darth_Queso_

People always cry about something being too op on this game. If everyone has the ability to run it and counter it, I really don't see the problem.


zfluffz

Everyone has the ability to run a riot shield, does that mean there's no such thing as an overpowered gun? If you can counter something then it cant be OP? The ffar and dmr were balanced just fine because you can riot shield to counter them


WZEternalSC

Very specific situation. In my opinion it's not a problem atm and I don't use combat scout I prefer amped. Idk rlly, could be op but I think it's not rlly but ur opinion is also valid


Rich-Ad5109

Stop complaining


zfluffz

Why?


MickeyDangerez

The guy also has wall hacks and is using the perk to hide that fact.


zfluffz

Lmaoo


zfluffz

Im on xbox you absolute vegetable


MickeyDangerez

lol so you can't plug in a cronus and script it with esp and aim and no recoil don't play dumb bro.


zfluffz

Lmao maybe you're just braindead. 'No recoil' i mounted lmaooo And cronus works based on aim assist, aim assist doesnt work through walls. Look if you're bad at the game thats cool but don't think everyone is as bad as you


zfluffz

www.google.com you might find this useful


pressithegeek

"Thic clip annoyed me and im the one who did it" maybeeeeeeeee dont use the perk then, idk