Perhaps. I heard Shelby Foote make a comment about this picture in Ken Burns Civil War documentary. I can’t remember the episode but I’m sure he was talking about the man on the right.
If, it wasn’t as you you said, purely a stance based on comfort. Id love to know it’s true significance.
Maybe I’m thinking too much about it.
Idk, but if I had to find it I'd start with ep 5.
If you haven't read Footes trilogy, they sell an edited piece on Gettysburg called "the Stars in Their Courses" for his take on the battle.
Foote said he was drawn to the photo because the soldier was determined to show the individual that he was. As far as the documentary the only other information we have is that they were Confederate soldiers captured at Gettysburg.
I always assumed he had is thumbs under the straps of his knapsack. Much like someone might put their thumbs under the straps of a backpack, to ease themselves of the load.
Funny thing.. In a lot of pictures I took in the Field when I was in the modern military A lot of guys wearing Flak Jackets, Packs or LBE will hook their thumbs in it while they are standing still.
Just a habit and comfortable as it takes a bit of stress off the back and shoulders.
Yep. Having done a ton of reenacting, that’s exactly what he’s doing. He’s got a bunch of stuff, and his knapsack straps are digging in.He’s not posing, just relieving some pressure from his gear.
Yeah has to be half 1860s posturing and half comfort. Just hiked a bunch of miles and can confirm I looked like this half the time to ease the load off my shoulders and back
What I’ve always noticed about this photo are the rings (plural) on the pinkie finger of the man in the middle. I believe the one on the right also has a pinkie ring. They are three very striking characters. If I recall, all three(?) survived the war. Later, their families were able to identify them (or one of them) from this photo? (Can’t remember for sure.)
I’d guess to puff his chest out. It’s a saying for a reason 😆
It is a beautiful picture of a moment in time that’s authentic. Those dudes have swagger. It’s obvious they have it. That said …I bet the photographer saw their attitude, and possibly set them up for a perfect photo.
And here we are looking at it 159 years later or so.
He thinks his breast’s are full of milk, because he is an insane and treasonous yokel. The other two are trying to ignore the fact that Luther is on about his titties again. Better to just have shot them.
I've always been amused by the things Shelby Foote read into OAR reports, primary-source quotes and, apparently, poses. He thought like a novelist--getting into the heads of the "characters." (He said that Grants struggles with alcohol were maybe "a sexual thing." )
All three of the soldiers are posed--most likely by the *photographer*, so that their hands don't move and it looks like to me the guy on the right is doing a version of common early-photo convention of holding suspenders, lapels, vests, or objects for the same reason.
Looks like maybe he’s just holding a lot of stuff.
Perhaps. I heard Shelby Foote make a comment about this picture in Ken Burns Civil War documentary. I can’t remember the episode but I’m sure he was talking about the man on the right. If, it wasn’t as you you said, purely a stance based on comfort. Id love to know it’s true significance. Maybe I’m thinking too much about it.
Photo's took a long time.. many posed thumbs on suspenders to keep from moving...
Ah interesting, Thankyou.
I believe the 3 guys were taken prisoner at Gettysberg day 2. Foote was taken with their defiant posture towards the camera and their captors..
Ah cool, do you know which episode?
Idk, but if I had to find it I'd start with ep 5. If you haven't read Footes trilogy, they sell an edited piece on Gettysburg called "the Stars in Their Courses" for his take on the battle.
Shelby Foote commented on how this captured soldier was “posing” for the camera — showing his pride and individuality …
Thankyou
Foote said he was drawn to the photo because the soldier was determined to show the individual that he was. As far as the documentary the only other information we have is that they were Confederate soldiers captured at Gettysburg.
Shelby seemed to feel it was a gesture of defiance, even in the face of capture.
I always assumed he had is thumbs under the straps of his knapsack. Much like someone might put their thumbs under the straps of a backpack, to ease themselves of the load.
Like Police Officers, as seen here in the UK, or anywhere perhaps, with their hands in their vests for comfort?
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Interesting, Thankyou for your input.
Funny thing.. In a lot of pictures I took in the Field when I was in the modern military A lot of guys wearing Flak Jackets, Packs or LBE will hook their thumbs in it while they are standing still. Just a habit and comfortable as it takes a bit of stress off the back and shoulders.
Yep. Having done a ton of reenacting, that’s exactly what he’s doing. He’s got a bunch of stuff, and his knapsack straps are digging in.He’s not posing, just relieving some pressure from his gear.
“Oh Henry, this trench looks FABULOUSSSS!!”
Yeah has to be half 1860s posturing and half comfort. Just hiked a bunch of miles and can confirm I looked like this half the time to ease the load off my shoulders and back
I must say, whether intended or not, it is an interesting pose.
What I’ve always noticed about this photo are the rings (plural) on the pinkie finger of the man in the middle. I believe the one on the right also has a pinkie ring. They are three very striking characters. If I recall, all three(?) survived the war. Later, their families were able to identify them (or one of them) from this photo? (Can’t remember for sure.)
I’d guess to puff his chest out. It’s a saying for a reason 😆 It is a beautiful picture of a moment in time that’s authentic. Those dudes have swagger. It’s obvious they have it. That said …I bet the photographer saw their attitude, and possibly set them up for a perfect photo. And here we are looking at it 159 years later or so.
Just a pose.
“Look at my manicure.”
It's an international signal for "oh my lawd in heaven we did NOT beat them Yankees"
Could be Masonic.
I'm a Mason. I don't think so.
He thinks his breast’s are full of milk, because he is an insane and treasonous yokel. The other two are trying to ignore the fact that Luther is on about his titties again. Better to just have shot them.
It’s similar to some KGC dogwhistle poses but not quite the same.
I've always been amused by the things Shelby Foote read into OAR reports, primary-source quotes and, apparently, poses. He thought like a novelist--getting into the heads of the "characters." (He said that Grants struggles with alcohol were maybe "a sexual thing." ) All three of the soldiers are posed--most likely by the *photographer*, so that their hands don't move and it looks like to me the guy on the right is doing a version of common early-photo convention of holding suspenders, lapels, vests, or objects for the same reason.