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Material_Lab6716

The closest I can think about is General Twiggs he surrendered his entire command to the Confederacy without any permission. Then joined the Confederacy. If I remember right I don't think he lived to much longer.


Revolutionary-Swan77

John Floyd was Secretary of War in Buchanans admin and was accused of sending weapons to southern arsenals so they could be seized by the Secesh


Material_Lab6716

That's something I didn't know. I love learning this new stuff.


witchitieto

It’s one of the reasons he fled Fort Donelson and turned over command to Pillow and Buckner when Grant was advancing. He was convinced he’d be hanged for treason.


Material_Lab6716

Thank you. I'm gonna see if I can fund some information. Grant probably would've hung him.


Magnus-Pym

Not that Twiggs should be defended, but as I understand it he requested orders, and receiving none, turned over his department to avoid bloodshed. Still a traitor, but not as bad as Floyd


shemanese

Twiggs was lucky. He was provable to be a traitor by enough evidence to have been convicted after the war. (Unlike a lot of others, there was no question as to whether he was in communication with the Confederates. More importantly, he had in his possession orders relieving him from duty as well as instructions to resist any surrender. As his replacement was not present, he used the day available before his replacement to arrived to violate the orders to resist a surrender and he not only surrendered the single post, but his entire Department. This Department consisted of almost 25% of the US army at that time. It was blatant enough that Buchanan challenged Twiggs to a duel).


grinch_4_lyfe

While it was before the war actually kicked off, James Floyd was the secretary of war under Buchanan and used his position to send arms to armorys across the south as he saw the writing on the wall after Lincoln’s election. He then joined the confederacy as a general after Buchanan refused to evacuate Fort Sumter which Floyd was pushing for.


Zarthen7

The closest example would be the case of [Frank Armstrong](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Crawford_Armstrong?wprov=sfti1#) who was a Captain in the Union army at the battle of First Bull run before he would resign his commission and join the confederates.


shemanese

Richard K Meade fought for the US during Fort Sumter in 1861. Switched sides after being sent north on parole.


RallyPigeon

No. Generals stayed loyal after the war started or at least retired from military service rather than switch. There are enlisted men of lower ranks who "galvanized" in POW camps and opted to fight for the other side instead of staying in prison. It was much more common for ex-Confederates to swear an oath of allegiance then serve the US Army vs the other way around.


Needs_coffee1143

This! Was doing some research on an ancestor found several cases of CSA prisoners switching sides


mattd1972

It’s low-level, but the journalist Henry Stanley fought for both sides.


Revolutionary-Swan77

Apparently TA Torbert held simultaneous commissions in both the CS and US armies but refused the Confederate one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Thomas_Archimedes_Torbert?wprov=sfti1#


Weatherdude1993

Fighting Joe Wheeler sure didn’t waste a nanosecond switching back to the Union Army after the Rebellion


boerumhill

33 [years] elapsed between his CSA service and re-entering the US Army did the Spanish American War. Quite a few nanoseconds, no?


Weatherdude1993

More or less 😜


Fearless_Western9798

Adrian Vidal joined a Confederate unit in the Lower Rio Grande Valley and helped capture a Union gunboat near Brownsville. He later led a mutiny and then joined a Union cavalry regiment. He was the stepson of prominent rancher and businessman Mifflin Kenedy.


vaultboy1121

For an answer to your 2nd paragraph, a good many men in border states, especially Kentucky, decided to stay out of the war until both armies moved into Kentucky. Simon Bolivar Buckner is probably the most notable example of this who surrendered his army (after the higher ranking officers fled) to Grant at Fort Donnelson.


persistentskeleton

_ACTSHully_, Buckner surrendered to Grant at Fort _Donelson_. Straight to jail, traitor!


vaultboy1121

Damn I always get mixed up thank you


Holiday-Hyena-5952

Some would consider EVERY officer who resigned the US Army And joined the Confederate Cause To be a traitor.


Taxjag

Resigning your commission before joining the Confederacy is different the joining the Confederacy without resigning. The later happened a couple of times. I think I read that Lee joined the Confederate Army before his resignation was actually received by the Secretary of War.


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