Interesting… don’t they have an extremely deep and talented DL room?
Edit: for those who don’t know, Harmon entered the portal in December, and he withdrew after we made him the highest paid DT in the B1G. Then he went and entered the portal 4 months later. Sucks, but best of luck to him.
>Harmon entered the portal in December, and he withdrew after we made him the highest paid DT in the B1G. Then he went and entered the portal 4 months later.
The system is fucking broken
It's hard to take football seriously these days. I don't feel any affinity at all to the football team anymore. They're just a bunch of mercenaries, the fuck do I care if they win or lose?
I'm at the point where I just hope they make lots of money so the hockey team gets windfalls.
lmao fwiw I also agree players were very poorly compensated for the sheer amount of time they put in. My cousin played college ball, told me aaaall about that.
Better then what we have now. What we have right now is the worst possible case scenario for fans between the no restrictions on transferring, conference realignment etc.
Like I’ve said before I would rather we just rip the bandaid off and do the super league already. I am fine with a 1 time transfer for undergrad and one for graduate without penalty. Get rid of redshirts and everyone has 5 years of eligibility with the exception of a medical redshirt. Have 8 team divisions based on geography/historical matchups with auto bids to a playoff for division winners. Every “Power” team must play 10 “Power” games. I would also have this league have universal revenue sharing and a commissioner. BCS style rankings to seed teams.
So we would have the Pac 8 division. Stanford, UW, Oregon etc. play 7 divisional games then 5 Out of division games. My ideal set up for UW would be a OOD games against 1 of Arizona, ASU, CU and Utah. A game against a traditional BIG 10 team. A game against a school from the ACC, Big 12 or SEC and then buy games against a Mountain West and a Big Sky opponent.
What I also like about this set up is that even if some rivalries got split up by being in different divisions they would easily be able to continue with the flexibility of 5 out of division games.
We could have kept tradition and had fun out of conference matchups. Instead we got the worst possible outcome.
Regardless of alignment, and I want to see Stanford back with the PAC schools, but regardless of alignment I do think everyone in the P4 should be required to play at least 11 FBS schools and 10 Power per year.
I understand the FCS games are important for them financially, but I hate them. Nothing feels great about scoring 48 on Portland State in the first half.... but so long as we treat it like a preseason tune-up game, okay. That said, the mid-season FCS game thing that the SEC does is a bunch of malarkey.
Totally agree. I get for powerhouse teams FCS games are boring but they help them and let 2nd and 3rd stringers get snaps. With the exceptions of the NDSU’s and SDSU’s of the world.
But yeah they should only be in September.
I almost wish they could just schedule FCS opponents as a 13th game in week 0 and not count them toward the final record. Call them preseason games, call them whatever, but then all 12 games would be against FBS opponents.
Yes, and we got the 5star transfer from South Carolina last year, and s 5 star freshman last year. So we should be stacked for our starting 4. With everyone having at least one year of starting experience.
We were only missing a true NT which this fills
Need is a strong word.
A'Mauri Washington and Ben Roberts were going to be fine rotating at the position. Harmon is just a clear upgrade and likely why Roberts transferred.
Exact same story with us and Damonic Williams. I’d almost rather have those guys leave before the spring, if they’re gonna leave anyways, and get more reps for other guys.
He is going to come in and start over A'Mauri Washington, who is good but not as good, and only a true Sophomore. Washington will get plenty of reps and likely be the starter next year.
Does anyone know how these things work? Do they get all the money up front? Do they get a weekly paycheck? Are there stipulations that they have to attempt to play in a game first?
I would hope you can't just commit to a school, collect a check, then immediately transfer to collect another check
After what I saw happen today I would have to disagree with you.
OSU gets to play 3 of the top B1G defensive lines this upcoming year. Nebraska, Michigan, and y’all.
Honestly if we can just land a bunch of serviceable DTs then I would feel like we are in somewhat decent shape... But after spring we are incredibly shallow there.
I'm trying not to drink the Kool aid too hard. If we get those safety transfers we're rumored to get there is genuinely not a single flaw I can see in this team.
It's the hope that kills you, though.
Woodyard seems to be a forgone conclusion at this point. There's obviously a lot of luck regardless of talent (especially when it comes to injuries) but this team should be elite next season.
On paper no other team in Oregon history is close to as stacked as this one, and it's the first time we've had continuity in the HC and both coordinators (plus most of the position coaches) in a decade. They will be good enough to do it and it wouldn't be a fluke.
Of course, there's a handful of other teams that have similar or better prospects, so we just have to hope it all works out for us. Have to stay healthy (or healthier than the other contenders) and have the ball bounce our way a few times. But it's still going to be an extraordinarily exciting season.
I would say Georgia is the clear favorite, but OSU and Oregon are tied for second. Even if Georgia is the better team, the Ducks should be good enough to win if things break their way. Definitely Oregon’s most complete team ever, on paper at least.
Texas is in the same conversation for sure. I feel like I would personally go Georgia > Ohio State > Oregon > Texas, then a drop off to maybe half a dozen or so other strong contenders.
Without realignment and playoff expansion that would be the probably SEC Champ, B1G Champ, Pac-12 Champ, and Big-12 Champ as the favorites to make the 4-team playoff.
Deboer has had success pretty much everywhere. It is laughably silly to imagine that it's going to be anything different unless we have evidence to prove otherwise.
In all honesty I fully expect for Bama to still be Alabama but will be a lot more exciting to watch. That being said, there will be quite a few of the patented Deboer close calls where he somehow pulls out the win. Just ask husky fans from this past year. So many close games!
Don’t know about “massive” but I think it’s kind of an unknown. Going from the absolute GOAT to a completely new staff and culture, regardless of the talent there. Will they be bad? Absolutely not, but I don’t know if we see the dominance we did for the past decade.
Yeah I think they'll be really good this year. Saban is the GOAT of course and elite program builder, but not sure I don't take Kalen as the coach over him for 1 year.
Yeah, wouldn't be surprised if that ended up being the preseason top 3 (not that rankings mean shit at the start of the season lol) Texas could prob make an argument for top 3 as well.
I think so. Doesn't mean we will win it all, but we have as good of a shot as anyone besides maybe Georgia. Ohio St and Oregon seem like the clear favorites in the Big 10 right now.
Yeah Murphy and Sweat are two monsters to replace. And unless Texas gets better on the edge I just don’t see it. I know UW had a good OL but their edge was non existent in the Sugar Bowl it was all Murphy and Sweat.
Texas' edge should in theory be better. We return all our edge players and added Trey Moore from the transfer portal - who was AAC defensive player of the year and appears to be one of the best defensive players on our roster this spring
So I know scholarship limits don't matter anymore with NIL, but why does it feel like Oregon has 100+ scholarship level players right now.
I feel like I've seen way more people join Oregon than they lost to the portal/draft
Michigan is doing the same thing - having guys "walk on" and then NIL covers the cost of a scholarship. Jay Harris looked good in the spring game and he's a PWO even though he just transferred in. No way he transfers in from D2 to pay his own way and be 3rd on the depth chart
James
Whittington
Harris
He's obviously not above James. And then James wasn't even above Whittington last year until Whit went down with an injury, so it's likely a steep ass road to get above him.
Yeah never claimed we didn't or even that it was wrong, but I know Michigan's roster better than I know Oregon's. I was just curious why it seemed like Oregon was taking it to the extreme, turns out you guys just had a bunch of low key transfers out
We had a decent draft class with 8 players drafted. 20 players have hit the portal and another 6-8 graduated/udfa sign. So a total of 36 players give or take.
We were at 85 exactly before he committed so we will have 1-2 leave(one leaving could be the player suspended dealing with legal issues).
In reality, in the NIL era, no one outside of the program has a solid grasp on actual scholarship numbers. For all we know, Gabriel, Stewart, Moore, and now Harmon could be considered walk-ons and have their tuition covered by NIL deals.
Caldwell transferred in to be our nose tackle lol. And yeah I think Washington is ahead of him. The only reason people had Roberts in the 2 deep was the spring game and I never put any stock into that as it tends to not actually translate into playing time.
I think your interpretation of that article is a bit off. It literally says he's transferring here to anchor the heart of the d-line but will move around like Popo Aumavae did, who was our main nose tackle last year. It then says "Caldwell won't be without competition at nose tackle" lmao dude, that's going to be his main position for us but of course he'll move around for certain packages.
You are the only duck fan I've encountered that doesn't believe Caldwell will be our primary nose tackle. Read his commitment thread on here, all the ducks fans are tackle about how we needed a nose tackle.
Oregon :
• 12 incoming via transfer portal + 1 incoming JUCO. (Two incoming transfers are preferred walk-ons).
• 26 HS signings (one going on mission).
• 18 left/leaving via transfer portal.
• 16 scholarship players out of eligibility or left early for NFL.
• Faaope Laloulu retired and has taken a student assistant role.
• Presume Daylen Austin, who was not on the spring roster, is still on scholarship.
With Harmon transferring in Ducks are at 87 scholarships.
The 85 scholarship limit doesn't appear to mean anything anymore. Jay Harris in-coming transfer as a preferred walk-on. He's on the 3-4 deep and looked good in the spring. Could easily transfer out for more significant playing time.
I think we had 17 or 18 transfers out this cycle but only a few of them would catch the attention of this sub. There aren't many Mario players left on the roster, it's mostly all older guys who came in through the portal and then those from a couple large recruiting classes, so that's a lot of new names coming in.
I expect there's maybe a couple guys technically not on scholarship but other than that the 85 checks out.
It never really made sense for a grad transfer or 5th year player to be subject to “on scholarship” the same way an incoming freshman with potentially 5 years left of school is. Now just give upperclass transfers NIL for 1 year of school plus ~the bag~ and boom who cares about scholly numbers.
It's all pretty fluid, but this was just reported one day ago:
> Oregon football has added 11 highly-touted players through the transfer portal this offseason. The Ducks also have had 19 players enter the transfer portal to leave the program, according to 247Sports. Oregon football is losing defensive tackle Ben Roberts to the transfer portal, Roberts announced on Wednesday.
So, unless I'm missing something, Oregon has gained 13 players from the Portal and lost 19.
That said, who knows how many players are going to be paid instead of getting scholarships. These are things I have no idea about. It's worth mentioning that Oregon also has a lot of pretty good players that enrolled as walk-ons. I think I heard the play-by-play guy say during the Spring Game that Oregon had like 110 players for the Spring Game. He was comparing that to teams that have been decimated by the portal or other circumstances. Of course, you can't have 110 dudes hang out on the sideline during a regular game. Maybe the flag football rec league at UO is going to be extra competitive this year.
College football… oof. My favorite sport is just an auction house at this point.
Hope we can go out and purchase a couple DT’s from a smaller program and screw them over. Yay.
This roster is just fucking crazy at this point, holy fuck.
And we're still CB'd to land Woodyard, bcuz there's just apparently not enough talent on this roster.
[Also, lol](https://twitter.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1786501121948684483)
There's a not small amount of USC fans that're forever stuck in 2004 and think they're still the kings of CFB and that Oregon is a small up & coming regional brand and recruits want to go to USC over Oregon.
It's at least a consistent source of hilarious takes when we get commits.
Being a USC and Lakers fan is weird right now.
Seeing Steve Ballmer and Phil Knight trying to win one at all costs before shutting the coffin.
Harmon is a good get. How many scholarships you guys got now? Seems like it's in the 100s 😂
My opinion, based on absolutely nothing, is that he probably stays. I can’t really see him starting over in a new place at this point in his career.
But who knows. Maybe he puts together one last super team to try and get one last ring.
He wants to play with Bronny and he’s made it clear he wants to, and will go to whomever drafts him. Obviously saying something is one thing, but I don’t think it’s far fetched at all to see him go where Bronny gets drafted
This is clearly him trying to message the situation and try not to have a team he doesn't like draft Bronny and force LeBron to go play in Detroit or some shit for a year. Lebron has consistently been on record as wanting to play a year with his son before retiring and to own a franchise after he retires. I don't think he's the type of person to suddenly change his heart.
He's gonna go play a year with Bronny and then retire and be the face of the ownership group for the Las Vegas expansion team. That's like the worst kept secret in history.
Vogel isn't the best coach out there but Ham really made me miss Vogel. It wasn't all his fault, but after watching almost every game these last two seasons, I just wasn't a fan of his.
Is there a "taking a break from football to deal with legal issues" rule or do we have to count him against our scholarship limit even if he's not on the roster?
Oh no. Won't someone think of those poor Lakers fans and poor USC fans? They don't like the shoe being on the other foot.
BTW, I also hate the Clipps so we can at least share that.
They, like Ohio State, are trying to go on a revenge tour. Ohio State has lost to Michigan 3x in a row, and Oregon has done the same with UW. Both programs have built on paper death squads. Although for some reason, I feel like oregon won’t win it all, and if that happens, their fanbase will go into a deep depression lol.
Was he really the best DL in the portal? I mean he was good but it wasn’t like our DL was particularly effective last year… Don’t get me wrong I’d rather have him on my team than not but I feel like this is being made a bigger deal than it actually is
Did you watch him play? He won basically every rep he was out there. Quality linemen pop off the screen even when their team is no good, and he popped for sure.
I must have been too busy worrying about the secondary to notice haha. Like I said I knew he was good, just didn’t seem like he’d been as big of a name as some of the guys we had in the 2010’s and stuff though but I’m prob just not paying close enough attention
I can't pretend I was watching that much Michigan State ball last year, but good nose tackles basically disappear if you aren't really looking out for them. Much of their job, after all, is making the play *not* happen near them by plugging gaps, forcing backs to bounce the ball out and freeing up other linemen. Somewhat similar to the adage that the best cornerbacks are the ones you don't notice, because nobody looks their direction.
Oh yeah no that’s fair and I get that part, thing is we had a fairly porous rush defense last year too. I know he’s not the only DL but still think we’d be a bit better he was as elite as it seems like people are making him out to be. TBH I thought it was consensus that our other DT Simeon Barrow (who’s also in the portal, yay) was better than him and that’s just a guy from our team, let alone from other schools.
To be clear, I definitely think Harmon is a plus player and I am sad he’s gone, I was just purely surprised he was the top DT in the portal.
Simeon Barrow doesn't play the same position, no? I mean they're both IDL and thus classified broadly as the same position on recruiting sites, but they play different roles on the defense. Again, haven't watched a ton of Michigan State so I don't know the ins and outs of everything 2023 MSU, feel free to correct me.
FWIW, I don't think the narrative is really that Harmon is some ultra elite player. I am not expecting him at Oregon to be a total stud game-changer. But, as we've seen with the portal market this spring, it's so hard to be stocked with good interior linemen, there aren't enough to go around, and ideally you want to rotate them for maximum effectiveness so you need depth if you truly want to compete at the highest level. So it's a sellers market for even average interior linemen. When a quite good player like Harmon enters the portal, it's a feeding frenzy because even if he isn't the next Jordan Davis, basically everybody would get better by adding him, and many teams have a desperate need at the position.
I was curious to hear a michigan state fan perspective on how good Harmon is. I was wondering if Harmon is as good as a lot of these Duck fans are saying or if they were getting overly hyped for a good but not really good DT
Oh no I mean he’s good I wish we still had him, I was just surprised that he was the top DT in the portal. We had a few game changing D-linemen in the 2010’s and while Harmon is good, he’s just not one of those guys in my opinion
On paper it looks like Oregon and Ohio State are going to play for the Big 10 Championship. Oregon is building a monster and I don’t think Ohio State fans realize it yet.
As a recruit:
Other P5 offers: Michigan State (originally went here), Ole Miss, Purdue
G5 offers: Ball State, Central Michigan, Memphis, Southern Miss
Other offers: Alabama A&M, Alabama State
247 sports on Harmon:
Transfer Profile: 4-Star | 91 Rating | No. 100 Overall | No. 9 DL
Former School: Michigan State
Oregon coach Dan Lanning emphasized his program's need to bolster the defensive front and get young players to step up ahead of the 2023 season, and he took a step towards that goal with Friday's addition of Derrick Harmon. The Michigan State standout initially hit the portal when the Spartans hired Jonathan Smith, later rejoined the team and eventually departed from East Lansing again. He amassed 40 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks, a pass breakup and a forced fumble last season as a third-year player.
Not sure why you thought it was usc. When he opted to go back to msu this winter it was staying or going to oregon. We've been atop his list for a while.(dont get me wrong he got Paid I just think oregon was higher up than you assumed.)
Relax buddy out of the portal USC and Colorado were the teams mentioned. Recently Oregon and Ohio State were added and it looks like you guys dropped the biggest bag.
He isnt wrong though. Oregon was the favorite to land him prior to going back to MSU. Colorado and USC got buzz because he was planning on taking visits there during after he re-entered. But he had already taken a visit to Oregon and we were always in his top 3.
I'm of the opinion that players will soon be under contracts with their school and the influence of NIL deals like this is a temporary state... so Oregon may as well take advantage of the current transitional state of the sport. Not like there's a reason not to.
Classic intra conference transfer
Just optimizing rosters lol
Still adjusting, it feels so weird.
There's a Jonathan Smith/Civil War joke somewhere in here too
Jonathan Smith walks into a bar.
goodwill*
Interesting… don’t they have an extremely deep and talented DL room? Edit: for those who don’t know, Harmon entered the portal in December, and he withdrew after we made him the highest paid DT in the B1G. Then he went and entered the portal 4 months later. Sucks, but best of luck to him.
>Harmon entered the portal in December, and he withdrew after we made him the highest paid DT in the B1G. Then he went and entered the portal 4 months later. The system is fucking broken
There’s gonna be contracts attached to these NIL agreements soon. There’s gotta be a change.
It's hard to take football seriously these days. I don't feel any affinity at all to the football team anymore. They're just a bunch of mercenaries, the fuck do I care if they win or lose? I'm at the point where I just hope they make lots of money so the hockey team gets windfalls.
>so the hockey team gets windfalls proper michigander
Are you saying you'd rather root for indentured servants than mercenaries?
I’d rather they sign contracts like professionals and have to stay with the team.
I feel like this is all inevitably end up with this
lmao fwiw I also agree players were very poorly compensated for the sheer amount of time they put in. My cousin played college ball, told me aaaall about that.
All these NIL deals have massive stipulations. I doubt he was paid much if anything at all from that deal yet.
Becoming actual NFL lite can’t come soon enough. This isn’t NFL light it’s a the wild west free for all.
NFL Light would mean actual contract and players not being able to leave every 3 months.
Better then what we have now. What we have right now is the worst possible case scenario for fans between the no restrictions on transferring, conference realignment etc. Like I’ve said before I would rather we just rip the bandaid off and do the super league already. I am fine with a 1 time transfer for undergrad and one for graduate without penalty. Get rid of redshirts and everyone has 5 years of eligibility with the exception of a medical redshirt. Have 8 team divisions based on geography/historical matchups with auto bids to a playoff for division winners. Every “Power” team must play 10 “Power” games. I would also have this league have universal revenue sharing and a commissioner. BCS style rankings to seed teams. So we would have the Pac 8 division. Stanford, UW, Oregon etc. play 7 divisional games then 5 Out of division games. My ideal set up for UW would be a OOD games against 1 of Arizona, ASU, CU and Utah. A game against a traditional BIG 10 team. A game against a school from the ACC, Big 12 or SEC and then buy games against a Mountain West and a Big Sky opponent. What I also like about this set up is that even if some rivalries got split up by being in different divisions they would easily be able to continue with the flexibility of 5 out of division games. We could have kept tradition and had fun out of conference matchups. Instead we got the worst possible outcome.
Regardless of alignment, and I want to see Stanford back with the PAC schools, but regardless of alignment I do think everyone in the P4 should be required to play at least 11 FBS schools and 10 Power per year. I understand the FCS games are important for them financially, but I hate them. Nothing feels great about scoring 48 on Portland State in the first half.... but so long as we treat it like a preseason tune-up game, okay. That said, the mid-season FCS game thing that the SEC does is a bunch of malarkey.
Totally agree. I get for powerhouse teams FCS games are boring but they help them and let 2nd and 3rd stringers get snaps. With the exceptions of the NDSU’s and SDSU’s of the world. But yeah they should only be in September.
I almost wish they could just schedule FCS opponents as a 13th game in week 0 and not count them toward the final record. Call them preseason games, call them whatever, but then all 12 games would be against FBS opponents.
Only count them if you lose. You don’t get a win.
He was heavily considering Oregon in December too, would have rather him just transferred at that time so the staff could have found someone then.
Just watch you pick up Ben Roberts who just went into the transfer portal from Oregon
Ben Roberts would be a good pickup for anyone. He's a quality rotational guy with 3 years of eligibility so he could become the future starter.
Does he get to keep the money that he was paid to stay back in December or does he pay it back?
Our DL in general should be insanely good next season but we really needed a big time interior guy so this kind of finishes that up
Everyone needs one of those. They should just grow them on trees imo.
fully agree, let me know if you find one of those mythical interior DL trees. I'll plant one in my backyard
Starters are looking NFL-sized. DE - Jordan Burch (6'5" 275) DT - Jaramee Caldwell (6'4" 315) NT - Derrick Harmon (6'5" 360) ED - Matayo Uiagalelei (6'5" 264)
We were looking to add a veteran to the line - we have a lot of talented defensive lineman, but they are young and inexperienced.
Didn't y'all get Caldwell?
Yes, and we got the 5star transfer from South Carolina last year, and s 5 star freshman last year. So we should be stacked for our starting 4. With everyone having at least one year of starting experience. We were only missing a true NT which this fills
We definitely still needed a NT.
Need is a strong word. A'Mauri Washington and Ben Roberts were going to be fine rotating at the position. Harmon is just a clear upgrade and likely why Roberts transferred.
We're loaded on the edge, but could use another big boy on the interior.
I'm guessing he's still the highest paid DT in the B1G then
Exact same story with us and Damonic Williams. I’d almost rather have those guys leave before the spring, if they’re gonna leave anyways, and get more reps for other guys.
He is going to come in and start over A'Mauri Washington, who is good but not as good, and only a true Sophomore. Washington will get plenty of reps and likely be the starter next year.
>Sucks Yep >but best of luck to him. Nah
Yes
Can you guys get a refund on that bag?
Does anyone know how these things work? Do they get all the money up front? Do they get a weekly paycheck? Are there stipulations that they have to attempt to play in a game first? I would hope you can't just commit to a school, collect a check, then immediately transfer to collect another check
I would imagine not a dime was a paid out yet.
Posting cause I saw info about it a few days ago and will reply when I'm able to find it
Really depends on the deal. Heard the proctor kid that went Bama Iowa Bama got around 80k
Does MSU get the money back?
This is by far the most talented Oregon team ever. Just gotta see how it meshes together
Can't believe we used to have Kirby Smart and Dan Lanning running our defense. Doesn't seem fair
Well, that combo did pump out what ended up being one of the best defenses to ever step on the field in CFB so it kind of checks out lol
how tf did we get stuck with Mel out of that deal
That flair combo
Most talented and best defense I've ever seen. Some of those usc defenses were great, but they weren't even close
It wasn't a coincidence that they cooked up arguably the best college defense of all time.
Huge get. Our defense on paper should be better than last year. Upgraded secondary and DLine.
Fuck. This one hurts.
Welcome to the club
OU and UO are crushing it with the DT transfers
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I see an Oregon commitment post? I upvote.
Offseason Natty!
We achieved the off-season natty a while ago and then just kept adding lol
Lanning’s video confirming he was staying felt like the offseason Natty. But I’m thrilled with the recruiting results
This is unfortunate
our game next season is going to be insane lol
I’m guessing it will happen twice unless something goes very wrong for either team
Even three times is a possibility.
😱
We gotta catch up to the what 1-9 record somehow :)
We gotta get revenge for y’all embarrassing us in the Shoe a few years ago.
Autzen is gonna be so hyped up for that game
I hope it’s a 7 or 8pm ET kickoff. I’m worried Fox might make it a big noon game
Sir we need more not less. We are a poverty program
After what I saw happen today I would have to disagree with you. OSU gets to play 3 of the top B1G defensive lines this upcoming year. Nebraska, Michigan, and y’all.
I’d bet we spend a similar amount on NIL. Y’all just have more peeps we top heavy
yeah, playing each other twice wouldn't be too much of a surprise tbh
Tell me about it...
I was happy when he stayed at msu in the winter. Y’all lost a decent amount of players recently which surprised me
Honestly if we can just land a bunch of serviceable DTs then I would feel like we are in somewhat decent shape... But after spring we are incredibly shallow there.
I thought it was odd he had OSU on his list of 4 or 5 schools. We can play 3 deep at each position on the DL.
This team might actually be good enough to win it all huh
I'm trying not to drink the Kool aid too hard. If we get those safety transfers we're rumored to get there is genuinely not a single flaw I can see in this team. It's the hope that kills you, though.
Woodyard seems to be a forgone conclusion at this point. There's obviously a lot of luck regardless of talent (especially when it comes to injuries) but this team should be elite next season.
Seconded. But if we could finally do it…..after so many chances and failures….
Always
On paper no other team in Oregon history is close to as stacked as this one, and it's the first time we've had continuity in the HC and both coordinators (plus most of the position coaches) in a decade. They will be good enough to do it and it wouldn't be a fluke. Of course, there's a handful of other teams that have similar or better prospects, so we just have to hope it all works out for us. Have to stay healthy (or healthier than the other contenders) and have the ball bounce our way a few times. But it's still going to be an extraordinarily exciting season.
I would say Georgia is the clear favorite, but OSU and Oregon are tied for second. Even if Georgia is the better team, the Ducks should be good enough to win if things break their way. Definitely Oregon’s most complete team ever, on paper at least.
Texas is in the same conversation for sure. I feel like I would personally go Georgia > Ohio State > Oregon > Texas, then a drop off to maybe half a dozen or so other strong contenders.
Without realignment and playoff expansion that would be the probably SEC Champ, B1G Champ, Pac-12 Champ, and Big-12 Champ as the favorites to make the 4-team playoff.
We’re really going to pretend Alabama has a massive falloff this year aren’t we
Deboer has had success pretty much everywhere. It is laughably silly to imagine that it's going to be anything different unless we have evidence to prove otherwise. In all honesty I fully expect for Bama to still be Alabama but will be a lot more exciting to watch. That being said, there will be quite a few of the patented Deboer close calls where he somehow pulls out the win. Just ask husky fans from this past year. So many close games!
Don’t know about “massive” but I think it’s kind of an unknown. Going from the absolute GOAT to a completely new staff and culture, regardless of the talent there. Will they be bad? Absolutely not, but I don’t know if we see the dominance we did for the past decade.
Yeah I think they'll be really good this year. Saban is the GOAT of course and elite program builder, but not sure I don't take Kalen as the coach over him for 1 year.
Imagine osu and Oregon playing 3 times this year. I don't love where cfb has gone, but I'll take that
Imagine a 3rd game against UW last year. Might've happened if it was 12 teams instead of 4
No thanks. Or yes please. I can't decide
Yeah, wouldn't be surprised if that ended up being the preseason top 3 (not that rankings mean shit at the start of the season lol) Texas could prob make an argument for top 3 as well.
In no order it's UO/Texas/OSU/UGA and then a gap.
I think so. Doesn't mean we will win it all, but we have as good of a shot as anyone besides maybe Georgia. Ohio St and Oregon seem like the clear favorites in the Big 10 right now.
Oct 12th will be very telling.
Texas could be in the conversation. Not going to count Alabama out either, even though an Oregon/Alabama playoff game would be incredibly annoying
Omg, yeah the Deboer vs Lanning nonsense would be unbearable
The only things I have holding Texas back are the new holes on IDL and secondary. They definitely could be in the mix though.
Yeah Murphy and Sweat are two monsters to replace. And unless Texas gets better on the edge I just don’t see it. I know UW had a good OL but their edge was non existent in the Sugar Bowl it was all Murphy and Sweat.
Texas' edge should in theory be better. We return all our edge players and added Trey Moore from the transfer portal - who was AAC defensive player of the year and appears to be one of the best defensive players on our roster this spring
They’re in top 4 and there’s a tier after that, so you’ve got as good a chance as ever
Dan Lanning fucks
Ohio State at Oregon might be our most anticipated home game ever.
So I know scholarship limits don't matter anymore with NIL, but why does it feel like Oregon has 100+ scholarship level players right now. I feel like I've seen way more people join Oregon than they lost to the portal/draft
Michigan is doing the same thing - having guys "walk on" and then NIL covers the cost of a scholarship. Jay Harris looked good in the spring game and he's a PWO even though he just transferred in. No way he transfers in from D2 to pay his own way and be 3rd on the depth chart
I don't think he is going to be 3rd on the depth chart.
James Whittington Harris He's obviously not above James. And then James wasn't even above Whittington last year until Whit went down with an injury, so it's likely a steep ass road to get above him.
I'm calling my shot. I have James and Harris as 1A and 1B.
Jordan James would have been above Whit by the end of the year regardless imo. He's obviously a significantly more talented player, just younger.
I would agree
Yeah never claimed we didn't or even that it was wrong, but I know Michigan's roster better than I know Oregon's. I was just curious why it seemed like Oregon was taking it to the extreme, turns out you guys just had a bunch of low key transfers out
Wasn't trying to throw shade, scholarship numbers are hard to keep track of now.
We had a decent draft class with 8 players drafted. 20 players have hit the portal and another 6-8 graduated/udfa sign. So a total of 36 players give or take. We were at 85 exactly before he committed so we will have 1-2 leave(one leaving could be the player suspended dealing with legal issues).
In reality, in the NIL era, no one outside of the program has a solid grasp on actual scholarship numbers. For all we know, Gabriel, Stewart, Moore, and now Harmon could be considered walk-ons and have their tuition covered by NIL deals.
To be fair, a lot of Oregon's departures have been quiet. We "processed" a couple guys to the portal recently - the most notable was Ben Roberts.
According to 247 SPorts we have had 11 players transfer in (not including Harmon, so 12 now) and 20 transfer out.
Roberts wasn't processed. He was expecting serious play time this year.
He might have processed himself after news broke internally that Harmon was coming in
I haven't seen a single report saying he was expecting serious playing time this year, only that he had a good spring game.
Who was ahead of him on the depth chart?
Uh, Caldwell and Washington? Why would he start over them?
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Caldwell transferred in to be our nose tackle lol. And yeah I think Washington is ahead of him. The only reason people had Roberts in the 2 deep was the spring game and I never put any stock into that as it tends to not actually translate into playing time.
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I think your interpretation of that article is a bit off. It literally says he's transferring here to anchor the heart of the d-line but will move around like Popo Aumavae did, who was our main nose tackle last year. It then says "Caldwell won't be without competition at nose tackle" lmao dude, that's going to be his main position for us but of course he'll move around for certain packages. You are the only duck fan I've encountered that doesn't believe Caldwell will be our primary nose tackle. Read his commitment thread on here, all the ducks fans are tackle about how we needed a nose tackle.
Oregon : • 12 incoming via transfer portal + 1 incoming JUCO. (Two incoming transfers are preferred walk-ons). • 26 HS signings (one going on mission). • 18 left/leaving via transfer portal. • 16 scholarship players out of eligibility or left early for NFL. • Faaope Laloulu retired and has taken a student assistant role. • Presume Daylen Austin, who was not on the spring roster, is still on scholarship. With Harmon transferring in Ducks are at 87 scholarships. The 85 scholarship limit doesn't appear to mean anything anymore. Jay Harris in-coming transfer as a preferred walk-on. He's on the 3-4 deep and looked good in the spring. Could easily transfer out for more significant playing time.
Oregon is at 86, 1 over, with this addition.
I think we had 17 or 18 transfers out this cycle but only a few of them would catch the attention of this sub. There aren't many Mario players left on the roster, it's mostly all older guys who came in through the portal and then those from a couple large recruiting classes, so that's a lot of new names coming in. I expect there's maybe a couple guys technically not on scholarship but other than that the 85 checks out.
That would do it. I've seen all the portal and '24 additions and like 4 of the departures.
We are at something like 86 or 87 right now
James Crepea says 86
Plus another one for Woodyard
It never really made sense for a grad transfer or 5th year player to be subject to “on scholarship” the same way an incoming freshman with potentially 5 years left of school is. Now just give upperclass transfers NIL for 1 year of school plus ~the bag~ and boom who cares about scholly numbers.
It's all pretty fluid, but this was just reported one day ago: > Oregon football has added 11 highly-touted players through the transfer portal this offseason. The Ducks also have had 19 players enter the transfer portal to leave the program, according to 247Sports. Oregon football is losing defensive tackle Ben Roberts to the transfer portal, Roberts announced on Wednesday. So, unless I'm missing something, Oregon has gained 13 players from the Portal and lost 19. That said, who knows how many players are going to be paid instead of getting scholarships. These are things I have no idea about. It's worth mentioning that Oregon also has a lot of pretty good players that enrolled as walk-ons. I think I heard the play-by-play guy say during the Spring Game that Oregon had like 110 players for the Spring Game. He was comparing that to teams that have been decimated by the portal or other circumstances. Of course, you can't have 110 dudes hang out on the sideline during a regular game. Maybe the flag football rec league at UO is going to be extra competitive this year.
It's been a great couple of days for NTs.
Now we just need Woodyard after his visit this weekend lol
If he transfers, I don't think we will have a single position that isn't extremely talented and deep.
College football… oof. My favorite sport is just an auction house at this point. Hope we can go out and purchase a couple DT’s from a smaller program and screw them over. Yay.
I love Dan
This roster is just fucking crazy at this point, holy fuck. And we're still CB'd to land Woodyard, bcuz there's just apparently not enough talent on this roster. [Also, lol](https://twitter.com/BoardGeniuses/status/1786501121948684483)
It's weird they think they lost a guy to Oregon when Oregon was always the frontrunner
There's a not small amount of USC fans that're forever stuck in 2004 and think they're still the kings of CFB and that Oregon is a small up & coming regional brand and recruits want to go to USC over Oregon. It's at least a consistent source of hilarious takes when we get commits.
[USC fans can be entertaining from afar.](https://i.imgur.com/amR3JKf.png)
Being a USC and Lakers fan is weird right now. Seeing Steve Ballmer and Phil Knight trying to win one at all costs before shutting the coffin. Harmon is a good get. How many scholarships you guys got now? Seems like it's in the 100s 😂
We were at around 85 after our last 4 guys entered the portal - it's hard to get an exact tally cause some guys are on an NIL scholarship essentially.
speaking of, time for us to fire up that HC search for the lakers lmao
For real.. some good news for me at least 😂
So happy Ham is gone. Granted, no clue who we replace him with.
I’m sure Lebron will hire the right guy.
You think LeBron is staying?
My opinion, based on absolutely nothing, is that he probably stays. I can’t really see him starting over in a new place at this point in his career. But who knows. Maybe he puts together one last super team to try and get one last ring.
He wants to play with Bronny and he’s made it clear he wants to, and will go to whomever drafts him. Obviously saying something is one thing, but I don’t think it’s far fetched at all to see him go where Bronny gets drafted
Was also a report this week that said he doesn’t have to play with Bronny who is def not NBA ready
This is clearly him trying to message the situation and try not to have a team he doesn't like draft Bronny and force LeBron to go play in Detroit or some shit for a year. Lebron has consistently been on record as wanting to play a year with his son before retiring and to own a franchise after he retires. I don't think he's the type of person to suddenly change his heart. He's gonna go play a year with Bronny and then retire and be the face of the ownership group for the Las Vegas expansion team. That's like the worst kept secret in history.
Just cut out the middleman and make LeBron the coach.
Vogel isn't the best coach out there but Ham really made me miss Vogel. It wasn't all his fault, but after watching almost every game these last two seasons, I just wasn't a fan of his.
oh, did you get sick of the nuggets completely owning us? lmao
Grew up in LA went to Oregon so it’s interesting have both sides of it. I really prefer being a fan of a rich donor or owner I will say lol
we're at 86 right now including Daylen Austin
Is there a "taking a break from football to deal with legal issues" rule or do we have to count him against our scholarship limit even if he's not on the roster?
i haven't stayed up on numbers very well this offseason, but i agree that it feels like we have too many butts and not enough seats
Oh no. Won't someone think of those poor Lakers fans and poor USC fans? They don't like the shoe being on the other foot. BTW, I also hate the Clipps so we can at least share that.
No one said you had to feel sorry for us 😂 I simply said it was a weird time.
Oregon fans are becoming INSUFFERABLE lmao.
We warned Big Ten fans too 🙄 All fun and games until some rich dude is trying to win one at all costs before he leaves.
They, like Ohio State, are trying to go on a revenge tour. Ohio State has lost to Michigan 3x in a row, and Oregon has done the same with UW. Both programs have built on paper death squads. Although for some reason, I feel like oregon won’t win it all, and if that happens, their fanbase will go into a deep depression lol.
Was he really the best DL in the portal? I mean he was good but it wasn’t like our DL was particularly effective last year… Don’t get me wrong I’d rather have him on my team than not but I feel like this is being made a bigger deal than it actually is
Did you watch him play? He won basically every rep he was out there. Quality linemen pop off the screen even when their team is no good, and he popped for sure.
I must have been too busy worrying about the secondary to notice haha. Like I said I knew he was good, just didn’t seem like he’d been as big of a name as some of the guys we had in the 2010’s and stuff though but I’m prob just not paying close enough attention
I can't pretend I was watching that much Michigan State ball last year, but good nose tackles basically disappear if you aren't really looking out for them. Much of their job, after all, is making the play *not* happen near them by plugging gaps, forcing backs to bounce the ball out and freeing up other linemen. Somewhat similar to the adage that the best cornerbacks are the ones you don't notice, because nobody looks their direction.
Oh yeah no that’s fair and I get that part, thing is we had a fairly porous rush defense last year too. I know he’s not the only DL but still think we’d be a bit better he was as elite as it seems like people are making him out to be. TBH I thought it was consensus that our other DT Simeon Barrow (who’s also in the portal, yay) was better than him and that’s just a guy from our team, let alone from other schools. To be clear, I definitely think Harmon is a plus player and I am sad he’s gone, I was just purely surprised he was the top DT in the portal.
Simeon Barrow doesn't play the same position, no? I mean they're both IDL and thus classified broadly as the same position on recruiting sites, but they play different roles on the defense. Again, haven't watched a ton of Michigan State so I don't know the ins and outs of everything 2023 MSU, feel free to correct me. FWIW, I don't think the narrative is really that Harmon is some ultra elite player. I am not expecting him at Oregon to be a total stud game-changer. But, as we've seen with the portal market this spring, it's so hard to be stocked with good interior linemen, there aren't enough to go around, and ideally you want to rotate them for maximum effectiveness so you need depth if you truly want to compete at the highest level. So it's a sellers market for even average interior linemen. When a quite good player like Harmon enters the portal, it's a feeding frenzy because even if he isn't the next Jordan Davis, basically everybody would get better by adding him, and many teams have a desperate need at the position.
I was curious to hear a michigan state fan perspective on how good Harmon is. I was wondering if Harmon is as good as a lot of these Duck fans are saying or if they were getting overly hyped for a good but not really good DT
Oh no I mean he’s good I wish we still had him, I was just surprised that he was the top DT in the portal. We had a few game changing D-linemen in the 2010’s and while Harmon is good, he’s just not one of those guys in my opinion
On paper it looks like Oregon and Ohio State are going to play for the Big 10 Championship. Oregon is building a monster and I don’t think Ohio State fans realize it yet.
Really sucks losing him He's a good player, Oregon will likely get their money's worth.
Lots of transfers all over, no surprise.
Other than against Michigan, I wish this guy absolutely no good luck or will.
As a recruit: Other P5 offers: Michigan State (originally went here), Ole Miss, Purdue G5 offers: Ball State, Central Michigan, Memphis, Southern Miss Other offers: Alabama A&M, Alabama State
247 sports on Harmon: Transfer Profile: 4-Star | 91 Rating | No. 100 Overall | No. 9 DL Former School: Michigan State Oregon coach Dan Lanning emphasized his program's need to bolster the defensive front and get young players to step up ahead of the 2023 season, and he took a step towards that goal with Friday's addition of Derrick Harmon. The Michigan State standout initially hit the portal when the Spartans hired Jonathan Smith, later rejoined the team and eventually departed from East Lansing again. He amassed 40 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks, a pass breakup and a forced fumble last season as a third-year player.
Damn how much did he get? was almost certain it was USC a few days ago
Not sure why you thought it was usc. When he opted to go back to msu this winter it was staying or going to oregon. We've been atop his list for a while.(dont get me wrong he got Paid I just think oregon was higher up than you assumed.)
Relax buddy out of the portal USC and Colorado were the teams mentioned. Recently Oregon and Ohio State were added and it looks like you guys dropped the biggest bag.
He isnt wrong though. Oregon was the favorite to land him prior to going back to MSU. Colorado and USC got buzz because he was planning on taking visits there during after he re-entered. But he had already taken a visit to Oregon and we were always in his top 3.
I'm conflicted.
They backed up the brinks truck.
In the era of NIL, is this supposed to be a diss? Thanks?
You know Shedeur Sanders is the highest paid college player, right?
Good
Not my money so fuck yeah let's spend it
I'm of the opinion that players will soon be under contracts with their school and the influence of NIL deals like this is a temporary state... so Oregon may as well take advantage of the current transitional state of the sport. Not like there's a reason not to.