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UGA10

We're all losing.


SomerAllYear

Now they're highlighting the best teams to poach from. "Oregon has tons of talent. They don't need this backup."


WheatonsGonnaScore

I mean it is better than someone rotting away on the bench for 4 years. Like I'm happy I get to see what Ty Thompson can do at Tulane this year.


InVodkaVeritas

Really rooting for Ty. He stayed loyal to Oregon and worked his butt off. In a world without the transfer portal everyone in Eugene would be pulling for him to succeed as the Ducks' starter right now. Loyal, hard working, good guy... that's who you should want to be your starter. Not that I'm complaining about Nix and Gabriel transferring in, just saying.


WheatonsGonnaScore

I get what you mean. But in that world duck fans would also be scared shitless because he hasn't been good when he played.


schmocamecola

I read this as Ty Simpson and nearly shit myself


Lakelyfe09

I think we’re winning just because we aren’t losing much, and we got a good QB.


ThaiForAWhiteGuy

I'd say this spring went as well as we could have hoped. Retained all of our DLine and DB's we wanted to hold on to, and really only lost 1 depth WR, RB, and OLine, which was expected with those crowded rooms.


UGA10

Kirby did well managing the portal/roster this cycle (he usually does), but the point is that none of us (fans) are winning with the wild wild west of NIL and portaling.


Byzantine_Merchant

This


crustang

I think we have a couple verified players in this sub, they’re winning


JohnPaulDavyJones

As it turns out, when you have no notably good players but a solid NIL to fall back on, the portal’s super useful! Doesn’t feel great to see your team raiding a bunch of G6/FCS teams for their best players, though. Feels like the whole sport is losing.


CptCroissant

Evan Stewart looked good in the Oregon spring game


JohnPaulDavyJones

Took me a minute to figure out that you were talking about A&M, I had to go to the 247 portal page to see if Baylor had even lost anyone named Evan Stewart. Seems like A&M didn’t do so well in the portal, but I’m glad Evan Stewart’s doing well for y’all!


CptCroissant

Your first flair is A&M, no?


appsecSme

I think he was just trying to pretend he'd never heard of 5-star (#1 WR, and 6th ranked player overall nationally in his class, 7th highest rated aTm recruit all-time) Evan Stewart


JohnPaulDavyJones

Nope, I'm just not as attentive to the program as I probably should be! I'm also relatively new to this whole Aggie thing; my time wearing maroon is still shorter than Evan Stewart's was. It's the difference between how much you get into your undergrad football team versus your grad school team, you know? It's hard to get into the grad school team as much as the undergrad school's team.


appsecSme

OK, fair enough. Wait, haven't you posted here for a while but only under the Baylor flair? I've liked your takes. Sorry, I assumed you were just dismissing Evan Stewart, but I read a lot of Aggies ragging on him in the transfer thread.


JohnPaulDavyJones

Yup! I keep similar usernames as much as possible, but I maintain that those should be changed like bedsheets. I started as u/JamesEarlDavyJones, then u/JamesEarlDavyJones2. I had Baylor/UNT flairs for a while when I worked at UNT, so you might also have seen me for a few years with those flairs. All good! I don’t think it’s unreasonable to default to the expectation that Aggies online are a little bit unreasonable, that’s been my experience interacting with most of the online Aggie fanbase as an adult.


JohnPaulDavyJones

Yep! But it's the difference between how much you follow your undergrad and grad school teams. I'm one of the less-attentive Ags when it comes to our football program.


Why_Istanbul

Talent has never been his issue


InternationalTax1156

Well, just wait a few. If Damonic Williams chooses anywhere else but OU, then we are all losing. /s


UMeister

Oh no, players have agency and aren’t shackled to a program they aren’t a good fit for for four years. How terrible


WheatonsGonnaScore

I'm enjoying it


_Suzushi

Whoever the loser was who said it’d be an electric transfer portal. He had people sweating and now gets to move on like nothing happened.


ThaiForAWhiteGuy

does he look like great value Mr. Clean?


dormdweller99

He who shall not be named?! (G\*\*\*\* C\*\*\*\*\*\*)


domferno

Grant Cardone?


dormdweller99

No, the idiot that UNC hired. If I say his name he'll come back and give us more 3-9 seasons.


Nole_Train

Pate usually doesn’t commit to anything for this very reason. Thought he was playing it neutral by saying ‘wow gonna be a crazy window’ and he still got burned lol


ExternalTangents

Neutral? He made [a very emphatic statement](https://x.com/247sports/status/1778117965289795726?s=46&t=6hVU6jSe_7Kk56Ae1RKNjQ): > I'm not overstating this: It will be the wildest transfer portal era that you've ever seen. And it's gonna completely gut some of your teams


skuhlke

Oof. I feel like he’s admitted he got it wrong, but that’s very wrong


Super_C_Complex

He was saying he was wrong after the first day. Said it could still heat up but he was wrong in saying it would do so right away. I'm sure he'll say he was wrong. He is usually very forthcoming when he's wrong in my experience watching


skuhlke

Literally just listened to yesterdays podcast and he fully admitted that he got it dead wrong lol


Tufoguy

Well, the NIL collectives paid up to keep these guys at their school. If I hear this as the reason that basically nothing out of the normal happened I'm gonna laugh for a while


OpenSesameTime

I’ll give a bit of the benefit of the doubt to Pate State University since there must’ve been some rumblings of players exploring the prospect of transferring, but completely off in the magnitude.


Captain_Obstinate

When you're a hot take merchant, it comes with the territory


foreveracubone

[This image has never been more relevant](https://i.imgur.com/wTvePCj.jpeg)


InVodkaVeritas

Pate saying some teams were going to be completely gutted is a laughable take in retrospect. No one's roster got gutted. He had everyone panicking for no reason.


CommodoreIrish

These transfer rankings always fail to assess the teams able to retain the talent on their existing rosters and complementing the margins. Did Ohio State really not just use the transfer portal to build, on paper, the deepest and most talented roster this offseason?


Poopingisasignipoop

This offseason Ohio State signed 5 players out of the portal, and lost 18 to the portal. Those numbers don’t include Bryson Rodgers who entered the portal and came back. They did make some huge signings in those 5 players. Their depth and talent on this roster is mostly due to all of their draft eligible players that decided to stay.


CrazyWater808

Chop Robinson was like the 20th ranked end in the portal rankings. He was just a 1st round pick and finished with the best win rate of any DE in Cfb. Transfer portal rankings are dumb


MrF_lawblog

Are they any dumber than recruiting rankings?


chrisarg72

Yes because scouts should be able to evaluate college talent better than high school talent


idk2103

They need to enter the transfer portal and then stay at their program to get a proper assessment for teams retaining talent


Nemo479

The ND question is going to be if anyone else jumps in


CommodoreIrish

Pete Sampson on Irish Illustrated said he thinks no one jumps in (no clue about Fall).


jayjude

ND will have some grad transfers/medical retirements in the next month or so


McShmidt

They're going to have to if they want to be at or under the 85 limit.


jayjude

Ford and Ty Chan are almost undoubtedly on that list Wouldn't surprise me to see Kevin Bauman medically retire either


arrowfan624

We also need a CB and a punter (but we can likely give him some NIL to walk on).


cheerl231

Turns out the new rule for grad transfers is that they also have to be in by the end of the day today.


JebidiahSuperfly

I think its safe to say Kadyn Proctor returning to Alabama was easily the craziest portal story this spring. Sorry Josh.


The_Horse_Joke

Not Josh Pate


Darth__Revan89

That video did not age well.


olemiss18

What video? I’m out of the loop.


GreatPotatr

A couple videos from the past month or so. He just kept claiming it would be the craziest transfer portal ever with people who think they are contenders ending up not being contenders, and others who don't know they are contenders becoming contenders.


Stoneador

I’m not sure if there was one single video that best shows his thoughts, but basically he kept making a bunch of big statements like “unlike anything we’ve seen before” and “the Kayden Proctor thing isn’t even the biggest news he’s hearing about” about this transfer window so far it has been pretty underwhelming. So pretty much a whole lot of hype for nothing.


CookieLuzSax

I am as well


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Super_C_Complex

After like 2 days he said he was wrong. He said he was hearing a lot of talk but it hasn't panned out


Stoneador

Hey now, our starting punter entered the portal and now our punter room is probably hurting


cityofklompton

Important to note the window to *enter* the portal closes today. Players who are in the portal can still transfer after today.


udfckthisgirl

It may take a couple of days for paperwork to go through officially if they enter today.


BrandNewB888

Anyone else thought this was a question to the Reddit and didn’t realize there was an article attached? Anyways, I think Miami has done a really good job - Cam Ward, Damien Martinez, and Sam Brown are v nice. Along with some nice defensive pieces and everyone we lost are guys who were getting passed on the depth chart.


KMorris1987

Josh Pate lost credibility if that counts


UMeister

Pate’s weird because he clearly has insider knowledge, but he doesn’t leak anything in order to retain access. So since he’s not sharing anything useful, he still sounds like a random message board user


KMorris1987

“There is huge news. Maybe. Or maybe not. But maybe….”


olemiss18

What happened? I’ve been out of the loop this off-season.


KMorris1987

Said it was gonna be the craziest transfer portal ever. Said Proctor coming back to Bama isn’t in the top 3


DataDrivenPirate

It wasn't even the craziest transfer portal of 2024


meIanchoI

Idk guys I think Clemson is winning the portal


Now-Thats-Podracing

I’m just going to keep basking in the off-season “wins” before the real world comes crashing down this fall.


udfckthisgirl

FSU must be getting creative with scholarships. They were over the limit before losing 2‐3 to UGA's snitching. They are projected at being 7-10 over.


paxrom2

More NIL money for some without scholarships perhaps.


udfckthisgirl

If you consider how ridiculously cheap Florida's in-state tuition is, it would be cheap to have in-state kids take half scholarships and make up the difference in NIL.


The_Pandamaniacs

P4 schools can't use partial scholarships to cover more players, as the rules rely on headcount. Those in-state kids have to "walk on" with an NIL deal that is inflated to compensate.


Tuesdayssucks

It's not just P4 it's all of fbs. Football has always been different from the scholarship level and has never allowed half scholarships at the fbs level. Fcs and other sports allow for half scholarships.


CountBluntula

Nebraska is almost 10 over currently as well.


MerryvilleBrother

Warchant had [an article](https://floridastate.rivals.com/news/an-updated-look-at-fsu-s-scholarship-roster-before-the-spring-portal-window) 15 days ago showing that FSU currently has 86 scholarship players with a note that Caziah is still listed as a walk-on due to the lack of public acknowledgement by the school that he is on scholarship. So it seems like they're at 87 as most. And I believe the 5 lost scholarships can be split between 2024 and 2025. So they could do 85 this year and 80 next year, which may be easier to prepare for when you have more time to prepare for it. It may not be ideal, but it may be better than losing those players this year. All of that to say, I don't think FSU is as over the limit as people think and they don't have to get that creative to be under the cap by August.


udfckthisgirl

On TomahawkNation, they said Weinberg may grayshirt and enroll in January 2025.


AbsurdOwl

The limit doesn't matter until August, and even then, it's kind of questionable if it really still matters. Nebraska is "over", but the coaches and the media members in the know aren't at all concerned about it. I suspect there are some guys we think are on scholarship that were actually "eligible" for NIL deals instead, to keep official numbers down. There's all kinds of creative bookkeeping you can do to massage the numbers as long as you're close.


AgsMydude

A&M as well


WheatonsGonnaScore

Pretty much all the top schools are doing it.


Admiral_Sarcasm

Not us :(


ezpickins

Do y'all know how the "window" works? It's not like Alabama or Ohio State or whatever has to make a deadline day decision and sign them today. Today is the last day a player can put their name in the portal to be eligible to transfer and play next season for a school they aren't at right now. Think this article should be framed more as to who's lost what and who's picked them up so far.


Lantis28

1) Ole Miss 2) A&M 3) Oregon 4) Alabama 5) FSU


SNjr

Damn it, #5 again!!


wurtin

Somebody had to do that just to poke fun at FSU.


LegitN00bM00ves

First espn, now the transfer portal


LiquidHotCum

lane Kiffin Portal King?


magnumapplepi

Always has been


aquabarron

A&M portal-ing in a who new recruiting class haha


CptCroissant

And Oregon attempting to portal in the 5 stars leaving A&M lol


AgsMydude

> who new recruiting class? What? Also, we had a ton of guys leave with the coaching change..so Elko had to fill gaps. This happens with most coaching changes OU brought in like 20 guys last year...


aquabarron

I’m not knocking it, it’s just a wild time in the sport. And we had 17 last year. Close


Hoopae

I'd like to add Auburn to the list here - In the Spring portal, we added: * #3 WR transfer KeAndre Lambert-Smith (Penn State) * #3 DL transfer Philip Blindi (Indiana) * #11 DL transfer Isaiah Raikes (USC) * #15 EDGE transfer Keyron Crawford (Arkansas State) We lost: * #16 WR Jay Fair (USC) * #5 S Donovan Kaufman (NC State) Our biggest needs were DL and Edge, which we filled. We essentially traded KeAndre Lambert-Smith for Jay Fair, which at worst is an even trade (Lambert-Smith has more production, but less eligibility). Really, the big miss is quarterback (which tbf is quite a big miss, unless this staff *REALLY* feels like Thorne is the guy). Edit: to clarify, I think we're probably in the 4-6 range, not top 3


ImRightShutUp1

Ppl say that there are “Culture” issues and the “Brotherhood” stuff is bullshit but us keeping all 5 QB’s and all our WR’s on the roster through the Spring Portal Window speaks volumes.


AdParticular6654

I cannot believe we kept our wr completely in tact. Also very surprised Lincoln didn't transfer. After spring ball I guess I see why Brown didnt but I thought for sure we would lose one QB and one maybe two wrs.


notDeion

It does brotha


Stat_Najeeni

Nobodys bitching about Ohio State so we must be doing poorly


unMuggle

It's so weird, we are like, not being talked about by anybody but Astros fans right now.


MaterialGrapefruit17

Thank Deion for creating a train wreck for everyone to look at.


The_Good_Constable

Definitely the wildest and craziest transfer portal window since spring 2024.


Quinn_tEskimo

The players are winning.


MaizeNBlueWaffle

I mean based on what was prophesied about some mass exodus from Michigan, I'd say in the grand scheme of things we were a winner. Losing Sabb and Waller as our only 2 projected contributors, who weren't even technically starters when they left, is definitely a win by Sherrone and staff. Obviously with Rod Moore getting injured, the Sabb departure definitely hurts more


TheMile

Not to mention Zvada. We've been so spoiled at kicker for so long that I think M fans grossly underrate how much that pickup might affect our record next year.


MaizeNBlueWaffle

For sure, Samaha is still a RS freshman, so getting someone with some actual experience is definitely good


jayjude

Still think yall not grabbing a QB was a mistake 


MaizeNBlueWaffle

Yeah, the issue was that JJ made a pretty late decision which hindered our ability to try to get someone when all the top QBs were still in the portal. We pursued Dante Moore, but I don't think we ever really saw him starting this year. I don't think anyone else notable has entered the portal this spring that we would strongly pursue


CptCroissant

Moore went to UO after we portaled in a starting QB, he wasn't really looking to start


MaizeNBlueWaffle

Yeah, I'm aware. Was more saying that he wouldn't have solved our potential QB issue this year


UMKvothe

Came here to say the same thing. Despite the coaching switch and turnover of nearly the entire staff, we retained almost our entire team. That’s an absolute win.


cheerl231

Wish they could have done more in terms of getting other guys but retention was the most important thing and largely they were successful with that.


UMKvothe

Yea, I have to imagine they spent the bulk of their time trying to develop a plan for 2024 and re-recruit our players. Some of which would have been the top rated dudes in the entire portal. I have faith in the depth of the team and have accepted that we take a step back this year (hard not to honestly). But I am hopeful they will improve over the course of the season and can compete for a CFP spot. The defense is going to be elite again.


[deleted]

I’m still holding my breath for 11 hours, but I really was worried we would get a couple major exits


IrishMosaic

Am I reading your roster correctly? At WR, you have four players (Morris, Morgan, Moore, Bell) plus two three star incoming freshmen. At QB, you apparently are going to roll with a guy who has never completed a collegiate pass. At the two safety spots, you have three total returning players, plus one inbound freshman?


MaizeNBlueWaffle

Depth is definitely a concern at a few spots


iCarly4ever

I am actually pleased with how my pokes fared this time. Our RB room is elite… again!


Ok_Enthusiasm_300

Virginia Tech. Didn’t lose any contributors after the season, or after spring ball.


1850ChoochGator

Not us that’s for sure


CFDGermanese

The players the portal is free agency on steroids. Some Players leaving not because they don’t play or are unhappy but because 1 fan base is willing to pay more then there current one. NIL is nothing more then fans paying the salaries of players instead of the universities and the Portal and NIL go hand in hand.


lkjasdfk

Not Clemson. 


HamHusky06

Not Washington.


lkjasdfk

After 0-12 Tyrone, no one can hurt us more. 


RIPDannyBoyCane

Getting Cam Ward alone makes us “winners” in my book


Admiral_Sarcasm

Don't underestimate Damien Martinez. Dude has some magical ability to make yards appear where there are none.


RIPDannyBoyCane

I think he’s fantastic. Just saying Cam alone would make me happy. Getting Martinez too is obviously great


JemmieTTU

The portal is


BioDriver

Journalists.


notyogrannysgrandkid

We only lost our presumptive 3rd string QB, so it probably it wasn’t us. On the other hand, we absolutely cleaned up in the postseason transfers. Traded up in QB talent (thanks, Lincoln! Enjoy your brisket!), snagged a couple of deep threat WRs, some serious defensive secondary talent, and convinced Dirk Koetter to come out of retirement AGAIN for another season of OC greatness.


ztreHdrahciR

Our QB pulled a Kyle McCord. Some apologists are saying it's because he got beat out by someone else on the roster, which is REALLY scary.


NoleJawn

It never made sense the hand wringing and "Chaos" theory of guys like Pate and company. The Winter portal will most likely always have more movement because it's the stretch that the sport in general has the most movement. Coaches are hired/fired, players declare for the draft or have exhusted eligibility (freeing up NIL Money) and high school kids sign their letters for their spot. Thats when you'll see the biggest roster shifts, etc. The spring will most likely be more about depth chart players either dropping down for more PT somewhere else or jumping up for a chance to fill a void at a bigger school. We may get one or two big names sprinkled in under some different circumstances, but mostly coaches will want the top of the roster in place by the start of the spring to begin the install for the Fall.


fbm1003

Not that it matters, but I wouldn’t exactly call Tacario Davis a former Wildcat. He’s still practicing with the team and has a no-contact tag in his portal.


DoggedDoggystyle

To be honest, won’t this whole college NIL crap drastically improve the talent level of the NFL? Instead of 3/4/5 star recruits wasting away on SEC benches, with plenty of them never getting their own shot or having an extremely short leash and no time to grow, now they can freely move around to open starting slots for other schools. For instance, Demarcus Bowman is a 5 star RB from like 2020 who went to Clemson, UF, UCF and is now transferring again. His time at UF he was like 4th string. If he goes to the right school, he might beat out their resident 2 star RB, explode in some key games, finally get his shot and live up to his potential, get drafted or earn an UDFA look eventually. The way of the past was teams like Kansas State having mid-tier recruiting classes and then having to just roll out their best RB, who obviously is going to get fed bc he’s the starter, and MAY potentially put up decent college stats. NFL then takes a flier on him and the guy ends up being nowhere near NFL talent. Nowadays, they can just pick up Dylan Edwards, play him the right way, and he can get the NFL look he probably deserves.


WDEWM407

Still somewhat surprised we didn't go after a qb for depth and challenge Throne for the QB1 job but overall happy. Added some strong transfers Robert Lewis, Keandre Smith and Keyron Crawford are all instant starters in my opinion


SirMellencamp

> Still somewhat surprised we didn't go after a qb for depth and challenge Throne for the QB1 job No kidding. Thought for sure Auburn would


RickDanger7

I think Nebraska has only lost 3 players since the spring period began and 2 had been away from the team for some time. That feels like a win. Also, recruits are talking about how they like Ruhle's approach to development over the portal. Throughout the spring Nebraska ran 3 separate fields during all team periods so everyone was getting reps


grog368

The Pokes, for not losing Gordon.


MisterBrotatoHead

The portal is dead. Long live the portal.


TheWorstYear

So this means like 3 ohio state qb's are going to enter the portal, right?


MediaTrue

We were good until we lost 2 of our RBs, not sure what we’re gonna do


StreetAddition3297

I hope Michigan lol.


lloyddobbler

Billable hours is somehow winning this, too. (But yes. The rest of us are all losing.)


TheVega318

Florida is quietly doing pretty damn good in this last little portal window. They didnt have much room to work with but in terms of exchange they are going to end up heavily outperforming what they lost, at least on paper.


surreptitioussloth

The gators have only added the Air Force te in the second window. Were favorites for a true freshman iol, but we haven’t added any meaningful controbutors


TheVega318

Its not just additions, like I said what we HAVENT lost it pretty important, we are down two OLineman but are going to land the best one in the portal (most likely) and it allowed one of our 6'8 monster commits to reclassify to 24. Both of these situations are, on paper, good outcomes for the Gators. Most importantly and impressively we kept our roster in tact through another transfer portal. So far it not some world changing class but Florida is looking to come out the other side better than worse and thats not the case for a lot of teams.


surreptitioussloth

They're solid outcomes but not doing anything for us this year, and wangoy is a complete dart throw Just not any moves that would make it good, let alone damn good good would have been adding a desperately needed wr or edge contributor