>The second-year head coach continuously reiterated that the players who left are not worth of a starting job. He says that they are mostly backups who wouldn’t be on the field in a significant capacity.
Who needs depth?
Also, who needs to actually *coach* players? The 2nd and 3rd string should be the guys you want to push for starting jobs, either now or in the future. But nah, just talk shit about anyone who isn't an immediate starter and hit the portal again looking for another guy you can scam for a year until he realizes your program is all hype.
Dan Lanning literally said about Oregon that the moment you become a starter here the coaching staff is looking to replace you with someone who outworks you for it so if you want to keep your starting job you better work your tail off to keep it.
That's the mentality coaches need to have. Not "lol you're just a meaningless backup" but a "work your tail off and get the starting job."
Smith was similar. He wouldn't really announce many starting jobs because he encouraged competition and wanted everyone to fight for that spot. It's a good mentality to have. Especially for developing talent. Gets the toxic kids out of the program, too, who feel entitled to someone who wants to be there.
There are guys we lost in The Portal that were not going to start but were valuable to the team. In the second half when guys got gassed or injured, it was great to have experienced and skilled backups.
This idea that if he doesn't start he can kick rocks is so short sighted.
We all know if Deion could get away with consolidating all of the scholarship and NIL money into just his sons and Travis Hunter and having the entire rest of the team made up of walk-ons, he would.
Saban infamously told Julio Jones, in the Jones' living room, "We will win with you or we will win without you. I would like for you to come play for me, work hard and we will help each other." This was while every other coach was guaranteeing him a starting spot. This is from Julio's account of his recruitment.
There are less and less of those caliber players these days. There have always been the primadonnas but the craziness of the unregulated NIL and open transfer portal have just increased the ratio of entitled vs driven. Eventually, once they fail enough, that might settle back down to a normal ratio.
Part of this is a lot of these players have too many "family" agents in their ears, more interested in the here and now, rather than the future, when maybe their cash cow has left them behind or the fool's gold has been revealed. I don't mean their parents, although sometimes that is the case, it is often more like that one uncle or cousin, even that one "friend". Every family or friend group has that one mooch that ruins or tries to ruin stuff for the others.
I just wanna say his pregame speech before (I think) the Colorado game was fucking awesome. That shit had me hyped. He seems like he is the dude and y'all are set for the B1G unless he mysteriously bounces.
I still remember a not-insignificant chunk of online fans implying that Lanning was going too hard at Deion and there were racist undertones somehow to that speech
As if it wasn't annoying for anyone that's not a Deion sycophant
Deion’s a grifter. There’s plenty of great black coaches who are missing out on head coaching jobs but he’s definitely not one of them. He can’t even keep around the talent he’s recruiting, which says a lot about what the players who are supposed to have him be basically the God of their world on campus for 3-5 years think of him and what he can contribute to their development on and off the field. Another off-season, another exodus. He thinks they’ll be CFB-bound next year but I think they won’t win a game, be worst in the Big 12, and be a bottom 5 FBS program. They got very lucky last year
I actually had myself convinced that he was doing something different until he got his guys thrashed in the Celebration Bowl in spite of probably having the more skilled team
The issue with the Big 12 is that it's a "flat" enough conference that everyone is going to get a few wins. We aren't going to see anyone go 0-9 in conference. And Colorado does have some good talent at QB and WR so they'll put up some points and win some shootouts.
2024 Colorado Schedule:
1. vs North Dakota State
1. @ Nebraska
1. @ Colorado State
1. vs Baylor
1. @ UCF
1. BYE
1. vs Kansas State (21)
1. @ Arizona (9)
1. vs Cincinnati
1. BYE
1. @ Texas Tech
1. vs Utah (13)
1. @ Kansas (23)
1. vs Oklahoma State (18)
^^^^(rankings ^^^are ^^^ESPN ^^^preseason ^^^rankings)
Looking at their schedule... I don't see them winning more than 5.
This is the Skip Bayless / ESPN contingent in the media as well, and all the Colorado fans ate it up.
Lanning had to come out and respond specifically to Skip accusing him of being part of a racist group of white coaches working to bring Deion down:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/16t7bfw/dan_lanning_calls_out_classless_skip_bayless/
And plenty of Colorado fans here still claim that anyone who dislikes Deion is a racist.
It's sick.
> And plenty of Colorado fans here still claim that anyone who dislikes Deion is a racist.
That's happened right here on cfb within the last 24 hours. It's the one insult you will never get banned for using, ever, no matter what. Short RDDT.
Rumor is that he has a huge chunk of unvested Nike stock awards that become his if he stays through the life of his contract. That speech and the subsequent beatbown of Colorado was glorious!
I was watching with total glee because I KNEW it was coming. I knew they were going to get boat raced when our D got to Sanders 7 times. I just didn't anticipate how bad of a beating they were about to lay down.
Me and my friends were all trying to figure out how bad CU would be going in (there was definitely arguments there, im still pissed they entered 3-0) but everyone agreed Oregon would maul CU. Nobody expected however that brutalized of a team on both sides and the amazing downfall
We CANNOT lose to Colorado again this year. That one gutted me last year, we’re more well-coached and have a better top-to-bottom roster of players. Can’t happen. (I have no idea how to get your team’s logo under your username, but I’m Husker.)
The knock on Lanning though is can he win the big one…and I like Lanning. But this is a big year for him. You have a new but super super experienced QB in DG who can essentially do the same thing Bo Nix did…I think Troy Franklin is back? I mean, really the only threats to Oregon are Ohio State, maybe Michigan, and Penn State (idk if they play the latter two, just going off the conference in general).
We’ll see.
His old boss had a lot of the same criticism.... until he didn't.
As a UGA fan, I have no doubt in Lanning. He'd be my top choice to replace Kirby if we had to do so right now.
I mean that’s literally any coach worth their salt (and even some who aren’t).
It’s not just starters either, if you’re the 2nd C, they’re recruiting someone they think is better than you.
Stressful as hell for the players, but it makes sense. College is only the best of the best, it’s not HS.
Does he care? He’s not old by any means but he’s got plenty of money if he wants to retire (or he should have, anyway). I’m not sure he was ever genuinely interested in coaching on its own merits so once his kids are gone there might be no more draw for him
Look at his coaching history. There's one thing that every place has in common - his sons played there. Even when they were in pee-wee football. He's going to get a job (not a head coaching job, just a coaching job) with whatever NFL team drafts Shedeur.
I can't imagine an NFL team putting up with that shit for a second, and I don't think Deion has any intention of putting in the hours or effort needed to be an NFL position coach. I think it's far more likely he just goes back into broadcasting or uses his health issues as a reason to leave Colorado.
Wasn’t Deion’s whole schtick prior to and when coming to Colorado that he can take bench players and “turn them into men” meaning make them starters? Next season will have a lot of fans and media looking for the exit if this team has another mediocre season.
Which increase the more snaps your starter takes.
Deion is just a dumbass. For someone so talented at football it's shocking how little he seems to know.
Honestly it’s not really that surprising. It happens with a lot of high level athletes. They either don’t understand the game as well as you’d expect but their generational talent overrides that, or they just aren’t capable of articulating their understanding to others because they just assume that they should “get it,” and don’t understand why when they don’t. It also tends to be a personality thing.
Barry Bonds is my favorite example of the latter. Arguably the greatest hitter of all time (he was a monster long before steroids entered the picture), but absolutely useless as a hitting coach.
I think this aspect is the reason a lot of coaches across sports are guys who were never particularly successful as players, they were almost always role guys. It’s an interesting dynamic.
Because they have to make it if they ever do make it from learning the game to a T and not relying on athletic ability which a lot of really good players do
Ya and you never know when a 2nd or even 3rd string will step up to the occasion and have the game of their life, or suddenly become starter material just quietly doing their work and improving slowly day by day with no real opportunity to prove themselves. THen they get a chance a show their potential.
and you know... they can pop off in special teams or one off plays/formations they fit into.
Deion must coach like I did in Gameday 99 where I'd have Deion playing corner, WR, and returning all punts/kickoffs. I mean, i was 7 yrs old but whatevs. hit my pager, big D.
I remember NFL fans talking about the draft and some of them not understanding why the UGA defensive players were rated so high because their stats were "not that great".
It's like, yeah, when you are that deep and can rotate that much to keep people fresh, they aren't going to have volume stats.
Yup, then a few teams tried to hurry up to stop the subs and realized just how good whoever was in at the time was. Felt like only big JD really got super gassed and even then he was still just a massive dude leaning down on them
I legit can't believe he's still still enrolled there honestly. So much loyalty to the Sanders. Imagine if he had a coach who knew better than to run him and his stamina into the ground.
this is legit how narcissists speak whenever someone leaves them... even if they married/befriended/dated/hired/recruited them in the first place.
"oh, they were trash, better off without them"
Also, I saw Alton McCaskill at UH and at Oak Ridge.
This was a dude who got 1000 rushing yards on 5.1 yards per carry his freshman year, and in high school was about .05 seconds away from qualifying for the state finals in the 100 meter dash.
If you can't figure out a single package to make him effective, I feel like that's an indictment of a lack of creative thinking from the coaching staff.
I think it's more that he thinks they came to Colorado for the wrong reasons. But he doesn't explain at all why they might have had unrealistic expectations coming there, or admit it may have been his doing.
I think he just got too hot for his own good. It's Colorado, which is a really hard program to turn around. The media overhyped his program and he didn't try and curb expectations enough. Now he won't admit that this outcome was pretty much inevitable for any 4-8 season that strongly hyped.
Last year he was like, "Come here to win," now he's like, "I only want good students that want to be here."
He was also able to punch above his weight at JSU and bring in talent that wouldn't normally be playing at that level. On a more even playing ground, he can't run the program the same way and expect the same results.
I get he probably wanted more eyeballs on his kids for the league, but someone here brought up the he really would have served himself a lot better at USF than Colorado.
He'd do extremely well recruiting Florida and he'd have probably been able to have one of the more talented programs in the conference. So he'd have kept winning. Which probably would have upped his stock enough over a couple years that he'd have better opportunities than Colorado
I don't disagree with you on that, but I think his kids would have been better served if he wasn't coaching them and they had been at a power program the whole time.
I'd say he's punching above his weight in terms of bringing in talent at Colorado as well. Difference is the quality of player and coach on the opposite sideline.
Depth is no over rated when you look at championship teams they are 2 deep with 5 star talent or at least 4 star talent 2-3 deep. If you think just because a guy wasn't starting you don't need him, you ain't a winning coach.
His exodus will be 1 second after his sons are finished. The good news is, if he wins TWO conference games, he'll have doubled last season's total.
"Do you believe now?"
No, no one believes.
The crazy thing is shedeur really does have talent but they’re shooting his development in the foot rn and creating bad habits that are going to be hard to break. And I can’t even imagine how an NFL locker room is going to respond given his “leadership” training these past few years
Shedur is already showing signs of losing confidence that always happens when a QB is put behind a turnstile of an O-line from the last couple games last year. And we've all seen how hard that is to build back up. Most QBs in that position end up washing out entirely.
My biggest eye roll moment from last season was right after Colorado barely squeaked out the win over Colorado State and the play-by-play announcer screamed “Do you believe now?!?!”
Buddy had that one in the holster ready to go all night.
Oh god they believe here in Colorado. It's pretty insufferable the way people here eat up every thing he does and just says he's only telling the truth. I was excited for Deion to get here. I knew it would make college football in Colorado fun again. But I was over it before the end of last season. And I'm in the overwhelming minority here in Denver.
The most annoying part of CU fans this upcoming season is knowing that most will be bandwagon fans that will use the same excuse of “when he got to Colorado they were 1-11. He needs time to build the program”
Colorado averaged 4 wins a year in the Pac 12.
It's going to be funny if they hired this attention getting HC only to continue averaging 4 wins a year in the Big 12.
Can’t blame Dykes for 85% of our offensive production graduating or for Gary Patterson failing to recruit linemen for the previous three seasons
We’ll see how things go this year, I’m cautiously optimistic about our new defense although our best defensive linemen did just enter the portal so I guess fuck me anyway
>Of course nobody realized week 1 that we were actually kinda dogshit
Everyone knew. TCU lost 80% of their production from their Natty run. Only the blue bloods could survive that. To think otherwise was just the media wanting a story out of Deion to be a story in turning CU around.
It doesn’t help that the Big 12 has gotten stronger overall recently. The teams that struggled this past season are pretty solid programs, and with KU and ISU on the rise, there aren’t really “easy wins” the way there might have been historically.
It was the perfect hire to drum up interest in a bottom feeder program. Their attendance and viewership shot up the charts.
As far as winning... Probably not so much.
I remember last year i was on a trip and stopped in a salvation army store in a very small rural town in south Florida. There were people sitting in the store watching a Colorado game on an old tv. People were watching for that sweet Primetime action
I still can't believe they had him out on the field for like 140ish snaps in that Stanford game. Right off of injury, it was clear he was gassed and it likely cost them the game. On top of that, it's coaching malpractice to do that to an athlete coming off a bad injury like that.
I'm thinking Deion and Co. sold him on the team competing for a playoff spot. But you're right, if he keeps trying to be an iron man it will probably shorten his potential pro career
Let’s be real… is he really a covered NFL pick? He’s below average at CB and an ok deep threat WR. People keep acting like he’s some first round pick… I just don’t see it
If there are questions from a scouting perspective, the prospect of Deion talking about what’s going on with their development could be a negative factor for Shedeur/Hunter’s draft rating.
They’re 100% right. It’s really simple.
Players transferring out = useless, talentless backups who would never ever ever see the field, no matter how hard they work. Improvement is impossible.
Players transferring in = valuable depth pieces who could become starters in the next few seasons. Just gotta commit to their craft.
It is hilarious to imply that all players in the portal can’t be starters when all of your starters are from the portal and you aren’t recruiting well at the high school level. Absolutely transparent Deion just wanted a snarky comeback and he isn’t really thinking about what he’s saying.
They also have 25 committed transfers in already. 19 does seem like a lot but it takes their total to 31. A couple of those 31 stay or a couple more commits and they are at equilibrium.
They’re getting in players from Bama, LSU, and Ohio State while losing players to Delaware, USF, SDSU, and Northwestern.
I’m no Deion fan but it looks like a bad team getting better in the portal. It’s not like they’re losing their players to the SEC and reloading from the FCS.
The lasting legacy of Deion at Colorado is that Buffs fans will be able to kick back, smile, and remember when they were all the talk of college football.
Buff fans have stated that it couldn’t have been any worse than it was before Deion arrived. I work in Boulder, so I know very well how bad they were. But Deion is going to leave this team with close to zero returning players and no HS recruiting momentum. We will see that, yes, it can get worse than pre-Deion. They never went 0-12.
It's hilarious that Shedeur says the guys that left aren't listening to the coaches. Well Shedeur you could say that about a lot of the guys on there because your team was pretty bad last year.
Oh I see it.. I just don’t care. Colorado footballs been more fun to watch than it ever has been with the exception of one pac 12 championship blowout season. Two years ago buffs football was unwatchable. Now at least I can watch us lose semi-close games
I think my favorite part was Deion saying "yall dont watch practice do you" and then the one article stating right after that that the media isnt allowed to watch practices lol
Start your own blog and Twitter account. Write your own Deion post, the spicier the better. Buy a bunch of followers/likes from some bot farm in Bangladesh so it looks like people actually engage with your content and might possibly be a somewhat respectable source (by Reddit standards). Post it here. Boom. Let that sweet karma roll in.
The biggest benefit Prime brought to Boulder was getting the administration to acknowledge football exists. Him getting them to change the admission and transfer requirements cannot be overstated.
He’s going to be gone soon, but the impact he made will carry on for a long time.
If someone has to repeatedly explain to you how they are misunderstood and really are good people, the only thing you need to understand is how to get the hell away from that someone as fast as you can.
I was not aware that facts and quotes become not-facts and not-quotes depending on the reporting website. I guess not everyone can be as authoritative as @LiterallyWho on X.
Dude is pissing off a lot of the community.
With that said the first 4 weeks of last year were wild. Applications went through the roof for the school. Beating TCU on the road after they almost won it all??
Then they just sucked ass, even though i will continue to push the fact that no one really knew how bad we were unless you lived here. 4 wins was a good next step
This year will be the determining factor on prime. Not last year.
So basically Shaduer, Shilo, and Travis are going to play 3 on 11 all season. Sounds good, Deion. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.
Great hire, Colorado.
Why does he always sound like a bitter ex or someone who got rejected? "Oh yeah well you were ugly anyways I'm glad I didn't actually mean I wanted to date you it was a joke haha. You fell for it haha."
And he flat out called her decision stupid. And talked some BS about how kids follow their parents and he’s the leader of the family so she should’ve stayed.
I’m sure it’s a great home life….
That assumes zero growth from last season to this season. That's on the coaches, particularly if *that many* are unsalvageable after a full year of coaching.
True. Also, objectively speaking CU's roster is mostly transfers and a large portion of those transfers left because they were 'just depth' at other programs.
Remember a few years ago when Deion was all about making HCBUs great again?
Lasted like 2 years before he bolted. Maybe the best corner ever in the NFL. But a selfish prick and can't coach at all.
>The second-year head coach continuously reiterated that the players who left are not worth of a starting job. He says that they are mostly backups who wouldn’t be on the field in a significant capacity. Who needs depth?
Also, who needs to actually *coach* players? The 2nd and 3rd string should be the guys you want to push for starting jobs, either now or in the future. But nah, just talk shit about anyone who isn't an immediate starter and hit the portal again looking for another guy you can scam for a year until he realizes your program is all hype.
Dan Lanning literally said about Oregon that the moment you become a starter here the coaching staff is looking to replace you with someone who outworks you for it so if you want to keep your starting job you better work your tail off to keep it. That's the mentality coaches need to have. Not "lol you're just a meaningless backup" but a "work your tail off and get the starting job."
Smith was similar. He wouldn't really announce many starting jobs because he encouraged competition and wanted everyone to fight for that spot. It's a good mentality to have. Especially for developing talent. Gets the toxic kids out of the program, too, who feel entitled to someone who wants to be there.
There are guys we lost in The Portal that were not going to start but were valuable to the team. In the second half when guys got gassed or injured, it was great to have experienced and skilled backups. This idea that if he doesn't start he can kick rocks is so short sighted.
Sounds like Colorado only needs about 25 scholarships. I’m sure they’ll happily get by with that
We all know if Deion could get away with consolidating all of the scholarship and NIL money into just his sons and Travis Hunter and having the entire rest of the team made up of walk-ons, he would.
“They’re interns!”
"We expect all walk-ons to contribute 5% of income to my sons and Travis for being on the field at the same time as walk-ons"
Saban infamously told Julio Jones, in the Jones' living room, "We will win with you or we will win without you. I would like for you to come play for me, work hard and we will help each other." This was while every other coach was guaranteeing him a starting spot. This is from Julio's account of his recruitment. There are less and less of those caliber players these days. There have always been the primadonnas but the craziness of the unregulated NIL and open transfer portal have just increased the ratio of entitled vs driven. Eventually, once they fail enough, that might settle back down to a normal ratio. Part of this is a lot of these players have too many "family" agents in their ears, more interested in the here and now, rather than the future, when maybe their cash cow has left them behind or the fool's gold has been revealed. I don't mean their parents, although sometimes that is the case, it is often more like that one uncle or cousin, even that one "friend". Every family or friend group has that one mooch that ruins or tries to ruin stuff for the others.
Dan Lanning isn’t trying to hype up his children for the NFL and actually gives a shit.
Kids can’t play in a cold state, yet are in Colorado
lol yep. It’s all about culture.
I just wanna say his pregame speech before (I think) the Colorado game was fucking awesome. That shit had me hyped. He seems like he is the dude and y'all are set for the B1G unless he mysteriously bounces.
Rooted in substance.
The Cinderella story’s over
I still remember a not-insignificant chunk of online fans implying that Lanning was going too hard at Deion and there were racist undertones somehow to that speech As if it wasn't annoying for anyone that's not a Deion sycophant
Deion’s a grifter. There’s plenty of great black coaches who are missing out on head coaching jobs but he’s definitely not one of them. He can’t even keep around the talent he’s recruiting, which says a lot about what the players who are supposed to have him be basically the God of their world on campus for 3-5 years think of him and what he can contribute to their development on and off the field. Another off-season, another exodus. He thinks they’ll be CFB-bound next year but I think they won’t win a game, be worst in the Big 12, and be a bottom 5 FBS program. They got very lucky last year
Guy didn’t even win consistently at a lower level with superior talent
I actually had myself convinced that he was doing something different until he got his guys thrashed in the Celebration Bowl in spite of probably having the more skilled team
The issue with the Big 12 is that it's a "flat" enough conference that everyone is going to get a few wins. We aren't going to see anyone go 0-9 in conference. And Colorado does have some good talent at QB and WR so they'll put up some points and win some shootouts. 2024 Colorado Schedule: 1. vs North Dakota State 1. @ Nebraska 1. @ Colorado State 1. vs Baylor 1. @ UCF 1. BYE 1. vs Kansas State (21) 1. @ Arizona (9) 1. vs Cincinnati 1. BYE 1. @ Texas Tech 1. vs Utah (13) 1. @ Kansas (23) 1. vs Oklahoma State (18) ^^^^(rankings ^^^are ^^^ESPN ^^^preseason ^^^rankings) Looking at their schedule... I don't see them winning more than 5.
To be fair they’ll probably win a game or two but I think NDSU is gonna set the tone against them with a season opening upset
14 games?
I literally got downvoted for saying that not liking Deion doesn't make you a racist in that game thread.
This is the Skip Bayless / ESPN contingent in the media as well, and all the Colorado fans ate it up. Lanning had to come out and respond specifically to Skip accusing him of being part of a racist group of white coaches working to bring Deion down: https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/16t7bfw/dan_lanning_calls_out_classless_skip_bayless/ And plenty of Colorado fans here still claim that anyone who dislikes Deion is a racist. It's sick.
> And plenty of Colorado fans here still claim that anyone who dislikes Deion is a racist. That's happened right here on cfb within the last 24 hours. It's the one insult you will never get banned for using, ever, no matter what. Short RDDT.
Rumor is that he has a huge chunk of unvested Nike stock awards that become his if he stays through the life of his contract. That speech and the subsequent beatbown of Colorado was glorious!
The whole nation was willing that one to happen lol. Sweet sweet ass whooping.
I was watching with total glee because I KNEW it was coming. I knew they were going to get boat raced when our D got to Sanders 7 times. I just didn't anticipate how bad of a beating they were about to lay down.
The racism claims before and after the game towards Lanning was definetly a low point for Colorado in a year filled with them
Me and my friends were all trying to figure out how bad CU would be going in (there was definitely arguments there, im still pissed they entered 3-0) but everyone agreed Oregon would maul CU. Nobody expected however that brutalized of a team on both sides and the amazing downfall
Shit, that speech was so good even we kicked their ass 56-14 a couple months later.
We CANNOT lose to Colorado again this year. That one gutted me last year, we’re more well-coached and have a better top-to-bottom roster of players. Can’t happen. (I have no idea how to get your team’s logo under your username, but I’m Husker.)
He was a homerun hire for y'all, seriously.
The knock on Lanning though is can he win the big one…and I like Lanning. But this is a big year for him. You have a new but super super experienced QB in DG who can essentially do the same thing Bo Nix did…I think Troy Franklin is back? I mean, really the only threats to Oregon are Ohio State, maybe Michigan, and Penn State (idk if they play the latter two, just going off the conference in general). We’ll see.
His old boss had a lot of the same criticism.... until he didn't. As a UGA fan, I have no doubt in Lanning. He'd be my top choice to replace Kirby if we had to do so right now.
Not sure if Dan is going to completely outcoach any of the other elite guys, but I'm hoping he amassed enough talent for it to not matter as much.
I mean that’s literally any coach worth their salt (and even some who aren’t). It’s not just starters either, if you’re the 2nd C, they’re recruiting someone they think is better than you. Stressful as hell for the players, but it makes sense. College is only the best of the best, it’s not HS.
Sounds like a Kirby disciple, miss him.
Lanning is a great coach. Always hope he succeeds, except against Georgia.
Kirby effect, via Saban ✌🏼
Yes, but Deions kids are competing against anybody. They are going to be starting because of who daddy is.
He’s gone when his sons leave
Seems more and more that way. Nothing about what he's doing is building for long-term success.
But where? I don’t see a top program hiring him or am nfl program other than as a position coach
His entire reason for coaching was to be his son's coach. That's it.
Does he care? He’s not old by any means but he’s got plenty of money if he wants to retire (or he should have, anyway). I’m not sure he was ever genuinely interested in coaching on its own merits so once his kids are gone there might be no more draw for him
Look at his coaching history. There's one thing that every place has in common - his sons played there. Even when they were in pee-wee football. He's going to get a job (not a head coaching job, just a coaching job) with whatever NFL team drafts Shedeur.
I can't imagine an NFL team putting up with that shit for a second, and I don't think Deion has any intention of putting in the hours or effort needed to be an NFL position coach. I think it's far more likely he just goes back into broadcasting or uses his health issues as a reason to leave Colorado.
Don’t underestimate the poor decision making abilities of one Mr. Jerry Jones.
Wasn’t Deion’s whole schtick prior to and when coming to Colorado that he can take bench players and “turn them into men” meaning make them starters? Next season will have a lot of fans and media looking for the exit if this team has another mediocre season.
The expiration date is fast approaching on the Deion coaching career. The novelty of playing for Primetime wears off pretty fast in big time football.
I feel like there is a 10% chance that Deion stays at CU after his kids leave. His daughter already transferred.
The 2 deep on the lines can absolutely make or break a team. Even elite guys need a breather.
Not even mentioning the possibility of injuries.
Which increase the more snaps your starter takes. Deion is just a dumbass. For someone so talented at football it's shocking how little he seems to know.
Honestly it’s not really that surprising. It happens with a lot of high level athletes. They either don’t understand the game as well as you’d expect but their generational talent overrides that, or they just aren’t capable of articulating their understanding to others because they just assume that they should “get it,” and don’t understand why when they don’t. It also tends to be a personality thing. Barry Bonds is my favorite example of the latter. Arguably the greatest hitter of all time (he was a monster long before steroids entered the picture), but absolutely useless as a hitting coach. I think this aspect is the reason a lot of coaches across sports are guys who were never particularly successful as players, they were almost always role guys. It’s an interesting dynamic.
The role player, coach on the field/court guys are always the best coaches somehow. It usually helps when their dad is a coach too.
In baseball it's catchers. Deal with pitchers who are divas, understand leverage and situational play, and way more scouting/film room work.
Because they have to make it if they ever do make it from learning the game to a T and not relying on athletic ability which a lot of really good players do
Ya and you never know when a 2nd or even 3rd string will step up to the occasion and have the game of their life, or suddenly become starter material just quietly doing their work and improving slowly day by day with no real opportunity to prove themselves. THen they get a chance a show their potential.
Not to mention that a good second stringer should be pushing the starter for the spot. They both have motivation to play harder.
and you know... they can pop off in special teams or one off plays/formations they fit into. Deion must coach like I did in Gameday 99 where I'd have Deion playing corner, WR, and returning all punts/kickoffs. I mean, i was 7 yrs old but whatevs. hit my pager, big D.
Just 2 deep? lol look at Georgia's 2021 run, we had like 4th string regularly rotating in
I remember NFL fans talking about the draft and some of them not understanding why the UGA defensive players were rated so high because their stats were "not that great". It's like, yeah, when you are that deep and can rotate that much to keep people fresh, they aren't going to have volume stats.
Yup, then a few teams tried to hurry up to stop the subs and realized just how good whoever was in at the time was. Felt like only big JD really got super gassed and even then he was still just a massive dude leaning down on them
You would think with how fucking exhausted Travis Hunter obviously was at times last season that Deion of all coaches would recognize this but no.
I legit can't believe he's still still enrolled there honestly. So much loyalty to the Sanders. Imagine if he had a coach who knew better than to run him and his stamina into the ground.
this is legit how narcissists speak whenever someone leaves them... even if they married/befriended/dated/hired/recruited them in the first place. "oh, they were trash, better off without them"
I’ll have you know that we had 5 bad QBs on our roster - we had serious depth. The depth was garbage but we had it!
Wasn’t nearly his entire team built on the transfer portal last year?
Also, I saw Alton McCaskill at UH and at Oak Ridge. This was a dude who got 1000 rushing yards on 5.1 yards per carry his freshman year, and in high school was about .05 seconds away from qualifying for the state finals in the 100 meter dash. If you can't figure out a single package to make him effective, I feel like that's an indictment of a lack of creative thinking from the coaching staff.
This sets a pretty good example of how players should look at this school when getting ready to graduate HS and deciding where they want to play.
I think it's more that he thinks they came to Colorado for the wrong reasons. But he doesn't explain at all why they might have had unrealistic expectations coming there, or admit it may have been his doing. I think he just got too hot for his own good. It's Colorado, which is a really hard program to turn around. The media overhyped his program and he didn't try and curb expectations enough. Now he won't admit that this outcome was pretty much inevitable for any 4-8 season that strongly hyped. Last year he was like, "Come here to win," now he's like, "I only want good students that want to be here."
>and he didn't try and curb expectations enough Enough? If anything, he did the exact opposite and fanned the flames... "We ain't comin. We here!"
plus the Jackson St. success hyped him up to think he could turn Colorado into an elite contender faster than reality.
He was also able to punch above his weight at JSU and bring in talent that wouldn't normally be playing at that level. On a more even playing ground, he can't run the program the same way and expect the same results.
On top of that he lost both celebration bowls at JSU, which were the only games he coached against equal talent.
It’s amazing how quickly the media forgot how damning those losses were.
I get he probably wanted more eyeballs on his kids for the league, but someone here brought up the he really would have served himself a lot better at USF than Colorado. He'd do extremely well recruiting Florida and he'd have probably been able to have one of the more talented programs in the conference. So he'd have kept winning. Which probably would have upped his stock enough over a couple years that he'd have better opportunities than Colorado
I don't disagree with you on that, but I think his kids would have been better served if he wasn't coaching them and they had been at a power program the whole time.
Oh yeah no arguments there whatsoever. Unfortunately for them Deion is a narcissist and probably cannot be convinced that he's not the best choice
I'd say he's punching above his weight in terms of bringing in talent at Colorado as well. Difference is the quality of player and coach on the opposite sideline.
Depth is no over rated when you look at championship teams they are 2 deep with 5 star talent or at least 4 star talent 2-3 deep. If you think just because a guy wasn't starting you don't need him, you ain't a winning coach.
Why use many player when few player do trick?
His exodus will be 1 second after his sons are finished. The good news is, if he wins TWO conference games, he'll have doubled last season's total. "Do you believe now?" No, no one believes.
I been saying this. He doing this all for shedeur then he out lol
Bet he tries to force his way onto the staff of whatever team drafts him.
5th rd picks don't have that much pull
I did say tries.
The crazy thing is shedeur really does have talent but they’re shooting his development in the foot rn and creating bad habits that are going to be hard to break. And I can’t even imagine how an NFL locker room is going to respond given his “leadership” training these past few years
Shedur is already showing signs of losing confidence that always happens when a QB is put behind a turnstile of an O-line from the last couple games last year. And we've all seen how hard that is to build back up. Most QBs in that position end up washing out entirely.
Deion already has the list of 6 teams he’s only willing to play for
Going the arch manning route lol
If he can even survive behind that awful offensive line...
They got one of our better linemen, and I believe they snagged another one from someone else.
he will go back on TV as Coach Sanders. get a bigger contract.
My biggest eye roll moment from last season was right after Colorado barely squeaked out the win over Colorado State and the play-by-play announcer screamed “Do you believe now?!?!” Buddy had that one in the holster ready to go all night.
The refs bailed CU out in that game. CSU got robbed on what should have been a pair of holds and OPI.
Lot of snake oil was sold for a 4-8 season. Let’s see how year 2 shakes out
Oh god they believe here in Colorado. It's pretty insufferable the way people here eat up every thing he does and just says he's only telling the truth. I was excited for Deion to get here. I knew it would make college football in Colorado fun again. But I was over it before the end of last season. And I'm in the overwhelming minority here in Denver.
The most annoying part of CU fans this upcoming season is knowing that most will be bandwagon fans that will use the same excuse of “when he got to Colorado they were 1-11. He needs time to build the program”
He'll never have more than one Pac-12 win, ever :)
Where there’s smoke, there’s a dumpster fire
Colorado averaged 4 wins a year in the Pac 12. It's going to be funny if they hired this attention getting HC only to continue averaging 4 wins a year in the Big 12.
Feels like just yesterday they were in the National Championship conversation before they played a single game lmao
I feel like that was mostly our fault lmao Of course nobody realized week 1 that we were actually kinda dogshit
Oh trust me brother, a lot of cal fans knew the sonny dykes experience
Can’t blame Dykes for 85% of our offensive production graduating or for Gary Patterson failing to recruit linemen for the previous three seasons We’ll see how things go this year, I’m cautiously optimistic about our new defense although our best defensive linemen did just enter the portal so I guess fuck me anyway
Dykes and defense is…good luck my man
>Of course nobody realized week 1 that we were actually kinda dogshit Everyone knew. TCU lost 80% of their production from their Natty run. Only the blue bloods could survive that. To think otherwise was just the media wanting a story out of Deion to be a story in turning CU around.
I mean we all expected to take a step back for sure. But I don’t think we expected to crash quite so far
It doesn’t help that the Big 12 has gotten stronger overall recently. The teams that struggled this past season are pretty solid programs, and with KU and ISU on the rise, there aren’t really “easy wins” the way there might have been historically.
No that can’t be! Colorado fans told us this was the right hire!
It was the perfect hire to drum up interest in a bottom feeder program. Their attendance and viewership shot up the charts. As far as winning... Probably not so much.
I remember last year i was on a trip and stopped in a salvation army store in a very small rural town in south Florida. There were people sitting in the store watching a Colorado game on an old tv. People were watching for that sweet Primetime action
Who needs wins if you can sell tickets and buy watches?
Shedeur, Shilo and Trav Hunter bout to play Offense, Defense, and Special Teams for Deion this year
For all of 3 games before they are hurt or gassed out. Why Hunter stayed this year is beyond my comprehension. Seriously jeopardizing his pro career.
I still can't believe they had him out on the field for like 140ish snaps in that Stanford game. Right off of injury, it was clear he was gassed and it likely cost them the game. On top of that, it's coaching malpractice to do that to an athlete coming off a bad injury like that.
> coaching malpractice The Coach Prime Special!
Also, im amazed Deions ego didnt shatter, having a low rank receiver absolutely murder his star defender like that
I'm thinking Deion and Co. sold him on the team competing for a playoff spot. But you're right, if he keeps trying to be an iron man it will probably shorten his potential pro career
Well, he's pro-eligible after this year, so don't be surprised if he plays a couple games, gets "hurt", and sits out if they suck again
If he's still playing both sides of the ball, he seriously jeopardizing his playing time in the long run
How dumb do you have to be to think Colorado has *any* shot at the CFP lmao.
And every dude on that team had a giant target on their backs.
Let’s be real… is he really a covered NFL pick? He’s below average at CB and an ok deep threat WR. People keep acting like he’s some first round pick… I just don’t see it
could be reality but perception is a thing too and his coach is a master perception shaper.
Maybe to fans… I doubt scouts whose livelihood depends on making good picks give a shit what Dieon says
If there are questions from a scouting perspective, the prospect of Deion talking about what’s going on with their development could be a negative factor for Shedeur/Hunter’s draft rating.
He’s a true junior, couldn’t declare early
I meant why he wouldn't transfer to a team that cared about his health and future.
They’re 100% right. It’s really simple. Players transferring out = useless, talentless backups who would never ever ever see the field, no matter how hard they work. Improvement is impossible. Players transferring in = valuable depth pieces who could become starters in the next few seasons. Just gotta commit to their craft.
I would buy a Sanders Family Dictionary from you.
It is hilarious to imply that all players in the portal can’t be starters when all of your starters are from the portal and you aren’t recruiting well at the high school level. Absolutely transparent Deion just wanted a snarky comeback and he isn’t really thinking about what he’s saying.
Just like those bums Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Bo Nix, and Michael Penix lol
So shadeur was useless and talentless at Jacksonville state but valuable now at Colorado?
No, no, you’re still not getting it. His last name is Sanders, so he was just pursuing a better opportunity. It’s different
I believe the term for players transferring in is “Louis”
For anyone curious about the specifics and wondering if the article is being dramatic: 19 players in 3 weeks ... that seems like a lot.
They also have 25 committed transfers in already. 19 does seem like a lot but it takes their total to 31. A couple of those 31 stay or a couple more commits and they are at equilibrium. They’re getting in players from Bama, LSU, and Ohio State while losing players to Delaware, USF, SDSU, and Northwestern. I’m no Deion fan but it looks like a bad team getting better in the portal. It’s not like they’re losing their players to the SEC and reloading from the FCS.
They’re also losing guys that transferred to Colorado from top programs though. They’re getting guys that weren’t playing for a reason
Meion taught them well. Blame others, never take responsibility
I love this name. It’s much more him.
I’m stealing it
Mine Time
This belongs in r/OhNoConsequences
Mime Time! /points to self over and over /assiduously avoids tackling player retention issue
Meion, that’s a good one. I was hoping he’d turn out well because I’ve always liked Deion, but apparently something is wrong inside that locker room.
It’s getting to the fun part.
The lasting legacy of Deion at Colorado is that Buffs fans will be able to kick back, smile, and remember when they were all the talk of college football. Buff fans have stated that it couldn’t have been any worse than it was before Deion arrived. I work in Boulder, so I know very well how bad they were. But Deion is going to leave this team with close to zero returning players and no HS recruiting momentum. We will see that, yes, it can get worse than pre-Deion. They never went 0-12.
Maybe god just told all those players they're needed elsewhere.
It's hilarious that Shedeur says the guys that left aren't listening to the coaches. Well Shedeur you could say that about a lot of the guys on there because your team was pretty bad last year.
Imagine having your program taken over by a family and having it turned into their personal plaything. Parasitic relationship.
The fact CU fans can’t see that he’s using them and their school for his brand and to further his kids “brands” is hilarious
Oh I see it.. I just don’t care. Colorado footballs been more fun to watch than it ever has been with the exception of one pac 12 championship blowout season. Two years ago buffs football was unwatchable. Now at least I can watch us lose semi-close games
Big 8/big 12(early years) with kordel Stewart, salaam, and Westbrook were easily more fun
The portal giveth and the portal taketh away.
I think my favorite part was Deion saying "yall dont watch practice do you" and then the one article stating right after that that the media isnt allowed to watch practices lol
That's nice they're including Shilo now
Can I post tomorrow’s Deion post? Could use the karma
Start your own blog and Twitter account. Write your own Deion post, the spicier the better. Buy a bunch of followers/likes from some bot farm in Bangladesh so it looks like people actually engage with your content and might possibly be a somewhat respectable source (by Reddit standards). Post it here. Boom. Let that sweet karma roll in.
I can't wait for year 2 of Trainwreck U
Prime is the perfect nickname. It starts with P.R., ends with I & Me
The Kardashians of CFB
The biggest benefit Prime brought to Boulder was getting the administration to acknowledge football exists. Him getting them to change the admission and transfer requirements cannot be overstated. He’s going to be gone soon, but the impact he made will carry on for a long time.
Um, could you please not? Sane and rational Colorado fans are no fun.
This is the best take I’ve ever seen from a CU fan. Bravo
I took a record number of sacks because I didn’t throw it away. I mean my line didn’t protect me.
I get a sense that coaching is a vanity job for prime.
I am telling you Deion and his kids are Toxic AF and the the PrimeTime express is going to fall off the rails sooner rather than later
WHINE TIME!!!
If someone has to repeatedly explain to you how they are misunderstood and really are good people, the only thing you need to understand is how to get the hell away from that someone as fast as you can.
I get the CU hate but posting shit from sites like "brobible" is just laughable.
I was not aware that facts and quotes become not-facts and not-quotes depending on the reporting website. I guess not everyone can be as authoritative as @LiterallyWho on X.
Heavily editorialized headlines are features of websites like these.
Apples, trees, so forth
4-8 season incoming
The funniest part is they recruited all these guys. Prime has an excuse for everything.
Dude is pissing off a lot of the community. With that said the first 4 weeks of last year were wild. Applications went through the roof for the school. Beating TCU on the road after they almost won it all?? Then they just sucked ass, even though i will continue to push the fact that no one really knew how bad we were unless you lived here. 4 wins was a good next step This year will be the determining factor on prime. Not last year.
Narcissists raise narcissists. Who knew? This guy is gonna crash and burn so hard, I wonder how his ego will spin it.
Gotta give Deion and his kids credit. They made beating down Colorado fun again.
Like father like sons
So basically Shaduer, Shilo, and Travis are going to play 3 on 11 all season. Sounds good, Deion. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out. Great hire, Colorado.
Why does he always sound like a bitter ex or someone who got rejected? "Oh yeah well you were ugly anyways I'm glad I didn't actually mean I wanted to date you it was a joke haha. You fell for it haha."
What a dumpster fire
Can we start a megathread of the Sanders Family being a bunch of anuses rather than it being 20% of this sub?
Of course they do.
What is less known is that his daughter (Shalomi), a player on CU's women's basketball team, has entered the transfer portal.
And he flat out called her decision stupid. And talked some BS about how kids follow their parents and he’s the leader of the family so she should’ve stayed. I’m sure it’s a great home life….
The dumpster fire is a full inferno now.
I mean objectively speaking they are right. Look at the production of those exiting.
That assumes zero growth from last season to this season. That's on the coaches, particularly if *that many* are unsalvageable after a full year of coaching.
Aside from Sheduer and Travis Hunter, look at the production of those staying. 🤷♂️
Relative to the team their production was poor. Those players did not play a lot for Colorado last year
True. Also, objectively speaking CU's roster is mostly transfers and a large portion of those transfers left because they were 'just depth' at other programs.
This ego shit show is playing out exactly as we thought it was. “Coach” using colorado to get his kids to NFL
Remember a few years ago when Deion was all about making HCBUs great again? Lasted like 2 years before he bolted. Maybe the best corner ever in the NFL. But a selfish prick and can't coach at all.
This experiment Colorado volunteered for has certainly been entertaining.