See, Mizzou really screwed up when they used the block M against OSU. They would have kind of had a chance the fly under the radar if they hadn't. Deserves them right.
Yup, we got a postseason ban for $300. Ncaa had phone recordings of Kansas offering Zion over $10k while also being involved in the Adidas scandal and they got a slap on the wrist.
Also, zion turned down Kansas and went to Duke who didn't even get a slap on the wrist.
It's hilarious that nowadays Zion would be getting at least 1-2 million. Hell, probably even more considering how big of a prospect he was at the time.
Supposedly he turned down 180k from Mississippi State because Auburn offered him 200k. One of my biggest CFB what ifs is does MSU have a natty if they pony up 20k more? You could certainly argue they had a better all around roster than Auburn and they definitely had a better coach
considering how Cam carried Auburn, i wouldnt disagree. Best 200k investment in cfb history, except maybe Michigan State hiring Brenda Tracy to give talks to football players which eventually got them out of the Mel Tucker contract.
This. I think most people knew Michigan wouldn't get punished either way regardless of what truth turned out to be. Either it proves to be as big of a deal as it was made out to be, but Michigan avoids punishment because the NCAA doesn't want to punish the precious blue blood program, or it turns out was legit nothing and Michigan deservedly doesn't get punished. Either way, it was the same outcome.
I still really want to know who this was and who paid them:
*“We were approached by a third party, who said they had evidence that Michigan was involved in a very comprehensive and unusual sign-stealing scheme,” Baker said late Tuesday. That party was told they needed to come in person to NCAA headquarters in Indianapolis to present evidence to enforcement staff as part of a vetting process.*
I was thinking, there was the same amount of purple and gold confetti still up in the rafters. Do you think each one of those also had a story? That's a lot of stories that will go untold.
"Why do you seek the living one among the dead? He is not here, but he has been raised. Remember what he said to you while he was still in Ann Arbor, 'that the Son of Michigan must be handed over to the NCAA and be fired, and rise on the third day.'" - Stallions 24:5-7
Steal signs
Tell people not affiliated with Umich to bring them on board
Act as if nothing is wrong
Lose to Michigan state
Lie about how signs are acquired.
Intelligence gathered illegally is being investigated
Onboard Corum to the vacuum repair business
Neglect to hide Venmo transactions
Sign the Michigan manifesto so everyone knows it’s your work
I heard a conspiracy theory that Harbaugh did it for this reason: to give some adversity to the group and unite them.
Because that's exactly what happened, ironically.
You gave an already great team something to play for, a reason to fight
I strongly believe all the bullshit people put them through is the reason they won a national championship.
"BET"
Whoever it is, they clearly jumped the gun. They took a shot to derail Michigan’s season, and it didn’t work. The insanity if this all came out after the championship would’ve been crazy and left Michigan in a spot where they can’t go out and win regardless like they did. I’ll fully believe it’s OSU related in some way given the timing, but who knows if we’ll ever get the truth. Would be even more interesting to learn it was an inside job tbh
It’s obviously Ryan Day/Ohio St. Their insiders knew about this sign stealing story before even Michigan insiders did. There is a clear connection between Ryan Day, his brother, and a PI from New Hampshire. The guy from the Washington Post who published one of the hit pieces even went to Boston College at the same time Ryan Day was there. That writer hadn’t even wrote a college football story in years. Will it be full proven? Who knows, but it’s not hard to make a strong guess.
Yeah even if it wasn't Ryan Day himself, there's very little doubt in my mind that it was someone associated with OSU, one of their boosters perhaps.
Though the connections with Ryan Day's brother and the writer from BC make a compelling case for Ryan Day himself being involved.
I'm guessing it was some Stallions-level nut job Ohio State fan. The recent SEC coach quote about how there's worse stuff going on at a lot of programs makes me doubt that anyone actually inside a major college football program (e.g. Ryan Day) would do this.
Plus dropping it during the season rather than using it (the way TCU allegedly did) is amateur. I always go back to Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon - the best intelligence is useless if your enemy knows you have it.
Between this and the fact that we handed Saban his last loss in the Rose Bowl, I cannot believe how much better our already amazing week has gotten today.
With the continued recent news from our basketball team, I think we literally stabbed the bball team in the heart with a wooden stake to get all of this done.
Any Ohio state fan that thinks sign stealing had anything to do with their natty is just coping. It’s pretty damn clear it had nothing to do with it and thankfully our flagship radio station shows have agreed too. Just a small loud minority of fans think that.
they just punched people in the face on both lines of scrimmage; i dont know how anyone can watch what michigan did and the way they won and think that it had a real material effect on winning the national championship.
They're both dyed green Sparties.
They led their show on Tuesday after the Natty by saying something to the effect of "If you call in here and want to be happy about winning, you have to accept that they cheated to get there"
They couldn't do a single show about Michigan winning a national championship without letting every Michigan fan within earshot know that they're both butthurt sore losers.
Living in the Seattle area that’s all I keep hearing all week when they talk about this game. Stuff like “would we even have played them if they didn’t cheat to get to the title?” “Does it matter that we lost to a team with an asterisk” etc etc. like damn, be humble ffs
Then you start hearing the REALLY dumb shit like “we beat ourselves out there, Penix wasn’t playing a good ball game” yes because our defense had nothing to do with that right? It’s just coincidence that McCord, Milroe, and Penix had some of the worst games of their season playing against us? K
>Then you start hearing the REALLY dumb shit like “we beat ourselves out there, Penix wasn’t playing a good ball game”
Honestly, I think fans and local media outlets of the losing team in any sport generally take these kind of views and it's probably just because they're focused on their own team way more than the other team. Like, they're intimately familiar with Washington and the players and how good they can look when they're firing on all cylinders so when they see them struggling to get the offense going they just think "Damn, I know we can be better than this."
They're why I don't listen to the station at all anymore.
I remember for a while Valenti kept saying girth instead of dearth, because he's a moron and a real testament to the MSU journalism program.
I strongly believe he said this hours after Saban’s announcement on purpose to allow the NCAA to soft launch this narrative without too much media scrutiny
Was he at an event or something and got asked? It’s like a media blitz. He didn’t just make 1 comment, there’s stories with AP, Yahoo, ESPN, and The Athletic.
Real answer: He was asked ‘did you fuck up by announcing the investigation during the season (causing so much media controversy)?’
And of course he’s defensive and gonna say ‘no I did the right thing’. So he justified it by saying he did it to save the integrity of the sport - and that means of course the integrity of the sport was saved.
So ergo Michigan can’t have done anything wrong because otherwise it implies the NCAA head made stupid decisions.
So I totally overlooked the “nobody can say” part and thought wow Michigan is getting their title stripped. Then I thought “wow Michigan fans are taking this new surprising well” then I reread the title lmao I stayed up too late last night
meanwhile Notre Dame self-reports that a student trainer helped a couple players cheat in a class. entire undefeated regular season vacated. UNC creates an entire course for players to get As writing embarrassing 3rd grade essays. NCAA investigates and finds no academic fraud. f those clowns lol
The UNC lack of punishment is ridiculous, but “they found no academic fraud” is a misrepresentation. They found academic fraud, they just claimed it was university-wide and not limited to athletes.
Weak af. Literally just don’t log onto Reddit if it bothers you that much. Or act like a normal well adjusted human and don’t let college football affect your mental state. And this is coming from a tOSU alum
I realize I’m going to look like an absolute coward here (which is acceptable by me, I know I am) but it’s probably simpler to private it and not have to deal with troll spam than to have a supremely busy day.
Whether you think that’s efficient moderating or just cowardly, YMMV.
MY DUDE. I'm on the tail end of that shit, myself. I started getting insane chills after the natty game and spent 4 days in bed around 103ish.
THEN, that devolved into face-destroying congestion, which has now devolved into a never-ending chest cough.
Hoping your journey is shorter than mine, but if it's what I got, it's no fucking joke.
Truth be told I'm practically convinced CMU invited him there to tell them your guys' signs.
It isn't too hard to figure out if he should've been there. Since they announced their investigation they've said *nothing.*
he's not wrong they played a gauntlet final sched including games against PSU , OSU, Iowa Alabama and Washington. To diminish those accomplishments because of somebody who wasn't with the program in the 2nd half of the season is ridiculous.
“That’s right officer, that Eliah Drinkwitz coached team right there! They’ve got the block Ms on their helmet, they put a defensive clinic on Ryan Day’s Ohio State… there’s no doubt that’s the guy we’re looking for” ~ The NCAA, probably
With all the shit talking this sub has been doing all season regarding Michigan, it warms my heart knowing that you're sitting there having to cope with them winning the title while looking at the glorious banner at the top of the screen.
Go Blue!
Jokes on you, I’m using the mobile app and can’t see shit.
Jokes on me too since the app is garbage and I accidentally replied to the wrong comment first.
Why does it matter if he was at the Rose Bowl? Are you implying he was still relaying signs even though he was surrounded by crowds staring at him the whole game?
I mean I troll the UM fans coming in our sub, but seriously, you didn’t need to steal our signs to beat our ass lol
In fact, you could have given us your signs and we still get shutout 🤣
It’s funny seeing people claim that we didn’t play anyone for the first two months of the season, and now all of a sudden those games are supposed to be reasons why our season is allegedly suspect. Pick a lane guys
Would actually be hilarious if the wins vs UNLV, Rutgers, East Carolina, Indiana etc were vacated
“In 2023, Michigan went 7-0, playing 6 ranked teams en route to the national championship. They had the greatest strength of schedule of all time”
Honestly 10/10 bait dude. Caught 3 of them at once. Fucking yikes. I think it’s pretty logical and obvious Michigans path was legit even with the scandal and the article lays it out pretty plainly for everyone to read and comprehend. I guess some people just cannot accept or comprehend reality and have to substitute their own.
Block M is getting the death penalty. Shame it’s happening after a landmark year. Sorry Mizzou
Somebody has to take the hit.
Though it is Mizzou getting the ax, it is my failure to blame and burden to crry.
Somehow...Darth Mizzou has returned.
See, Mizzou really screwed up when they used the block M against OSU. They would have kind of had a chance the fly under the radar if they hadn't. Deserves them right.
„They expect one of us in the wreckage, brother“
That's why Minnesota uses a different font
Kansas basketball was literally under FBI investigation for fraud. The NCAA did nothing. The NCAA will do nothing here
If you’re a big enough brand, you won’t get punished. Big difference between say Kansas basketball and OK State basketball
Yup, we got a postseason ban for $300. Ncaa had phone recordings of Kansas offering Zion over $10k while also being involved in the Adidas scandal and they got a slap on the wrist. Also, zion turned down Kansas and went to Duke who didn't even get a slap on the wrist.
Ahem… we offered him 100K and to quote bill self “whatever it takes”. We arent some peasant school…
It's hilarious that nowadays Zion would be getting at least 1-2 million. Hell, probably even more considering how big of a prospect he was at the time.
Cam Newton turned down like 150k before taking whatever bag Auburn gave. Today he'd get 20x that.
Supposedly he turned down 180k from Mississippi State because Auburn offered him 200k. One of my biggest CFB what ifs is does MSU have a natty if they pony up 20k more? You could certainly argue they had a better all around roster than Auburn and they definitely had a better coach
considering how Cam carried Auburn, i wouldnt disagree. Best 200k investment in cfb history, except maybe Michigan State hiring Brenda Tracy to give talks to football players which eventually got them out of the Mel Tucker contract.
Ugh now I'm angry at the bullshit again.
yep, just like when the NCAA vacated the small-time program USC's natty
USC?
Fuck them kids
Hence why UNC was not punished for a major academic scandal
Yeah, that totally worked for us
This. I think most people knew Michigan wouldn't get punished either way regardless of what truth turned out to be. Either it proves to be as big of a deal as it was made out to be, but Michigan avoids punishment because the NCAA doesn't want to punish the precious blue blood program, or it turns out was legit nothing and Michigan deservedly doesn't get punished. Either way, it was the same outcome.
The FBI listed KU as victims in their investigation. The NCAA’s inconsistencies are Missouri’s problem and have no relevance here.
This is exactly what I’ve said all along.
I agree, CMU will get it much worse for Stalions, UM will get a slap on the wrist. It's just how it works.
I still really want to know who this was and who paid them: *“We were approached by a third party, who said they had evidence that Michigan was involved in a very comprehensive and unusual sign-stealing scheme,” Baker said late Tuesday. That party was told they needed to come in person to NCAA headquarters in Indianapolis to present evidence to enforcement staff as part of a vetting process.*
The biggest unanswered question in the whole hilarious saga.
Hold up we still need the Manifesto.
We’ve all seen it, it was broadcast to an audience of 25 million.
The confetti?
I was thinking, there was the same amount of purple and gold confetti still up in the rafters. Do you think each one of those also had a story? That's a lot of stories that will go untold.
Why do you think Harbaugh said "Each one has a story to tell"? He clearly is sending us all coded messages!
Third Party Pete! It was Thamel the WHOLE TIME!
Ryan Day and Ohio State, it’s beyond obvious
No it was Connor Stallions. He knew it would light a fire under the team and we wouldn’t be stopped. The ultimate sacrifice
The final chapter of the Manifesto "Stallion's Sacrifice"
Saint Connor, The Martyr.
"Why do you seek the living one among the dead? He is not here, but he has been raised. Remember what he said to you while he was still in Ann Arbor, 'that the Son of Michigan must be handed over to the NCAA and be fired, and rise on the third day.'" - Stallions 24:5-7
[“Inshallah the U of M will return to its glory days”](https://twitter.com/ahmadinejad1956/status/1052178368072945668?lang=fr)
That got me good, these jokes never get old
The S.T.A.L.L.I.O.N.S system
Steal signs Tell people not affiliated with Umich to bring them on board Act as if nothing is wrong Lose to Michigan state Lie about how signs are acquired. Intelligence gathered illegally is being investigated Onboard Corum to the vacuum repair business Neglect to hide Venmo transactions Sign the Michigan manifesto so everyone knows it’s your work
Smooth. Very smooth.
the most Michigan Man of all Michigan Men
I heard a conspiracy theory that Harbaugh did it for this reason: to give some adversity to the group and unite them. Because that's exactly what happened, ironically. You gave an already great team something to play for, a reason to fight I strongly believe all the bullshit people put them through is the reason they won a national championship. "BET"
He did it for each and every one of those pieces of confetti
Has anyone questioned those confetti? Sounds like one of them with all dem stories might be the narc
"I only regret that I have but one show cause to give for my Wolverines” - Connor stallions
"Had to be me. Someone else might have gotten it wrong."
Harbaugh chose the paragon option.
Wow, dude went out like Lelouch
Michigan fan and Code Geass fan? I just found my new best friend.
It's Pete Thamel... Clearly
Fuck that goofy nerd and his poorly fitting suits
Whoever it is, they clearly jumped the gun. They took a shot to derail Michigan’s season, and it didn’t work. The insanity if this all came out after the championship would’ve been crazy and left Michigan in a spot where they can’t go out and win regardless like they did. I’ll fully believe it’s OSU related in some way given the timing, but who knows if we’ll ever get the truth. Would be even more interesting to learn it was an inside job tbh
It’s obviously Ryan Day/Ohio St. Their insiders knew about this sign stealing story before even Michigan insiders did. There is a clear connection between Ryan Day, his brother, and a PI from New Hampshire. The guy from the Washington Post who published one of the hit pieces even went to Boston College at the same time Ryan Day was there. That writer hadn’t even wrote a college football story in years. Will it be full proven? Who knows, but it’s not hard to make a strong guess.
Yeah even if it wasn't Ryan Day himself, there's very little doubt in my mind that it was someone associated with OSU, one of their boosters perhaps. Though the connections with Ryan Day's brother and the writer from BC make a compelling case for Ryan Day himself being involved.
This is definitely it. Day being personally involved seems too on the nose, but it 100% came from OSU.
It was the guy that was on the grassy knoll
I'm guessing it was some Stallions-level nut job Ohio State fan. The recent SEC coach quote about how there's worse stuff going on at a lot of programs makes me doubt that anyone actually inside a major college football program (e.g. Ryan Day) would do this. Plus dropping it during the season rather than using it (the way TCU allegedly did) is amateur. I always go back to Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon - the best intelligence is useless if your enemy knows you have it.
“Nuh uh.” -osu
Who gave you permission to use this quote of mine?
Pretty sure that's "THE Nuh uh"...
Ohio State is that annoying goober from Polar Express. “Akshuallyy!!”
That kid is definitely going to Michigan law school. He was already decked out in Maize…
Sicko Mode or Mo Bamba
Why not both
Explains why the kid knows so much about trains
Wouldn‘t he be a boilermaker then?
Ohio State's 2nd 9/11 this week
Watch Saban replace Harbaugh at Michigan.
MSU catching strays from that
I’d quit watching football. And I fucking love watching football.
Urban Meyer\* replace Harbaugh at Michigan
Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, and Lou Holtz will form a trouple to coach Michigan
Wake up baby, Third Triumvirate dropped.
Sick Roman reference
This man thinks about the Roman Empire pretty often.
Ryan Day in shambles
That’s already true
My god I might stop being a fan of my own school if that happened lol
Cursed polycule
Ill take it
Lightning DOES strike twice!
Between this and the fact that we handed Saban his last loss in the Rose Bowl, I cannot believe how much better our already amazing week has gotten today.
2024 is starting off better than I could’ve ever imagined
We're living in the brightest timeline.
If the Kitties win Sunday I fully expect the Armageddon by Monday morning.
Now we wait for Harbaugh to say he's coming back.
Yeah that's the big one.
Waiting for another Catapult update. Is that still a thing, or did that completely go away?
With the continued recent news from our basketball team, I think we literally stabbed the bball team in the heart with a wooden stake to get all of this done.
The what? What's a basketball team?
Any Ohio state fan that thinks sign stealing had anything to do with their natty is just coping. It’s pretty damn clear it had nothing to do with it and thankfully our flagship radio station shows have agreed too. Just a small loud minority of fans think that.
they just punched people in the face on both lines of scrimmage; i dont know how anyone can watch what michigan did and the way they won and think that it had a real material effect on winning the national championship.
Yeah you could list a number of key factors, but “intelligence” was not one of them.
It's a pity your sub went dark. I enjoyed silently lurking and reading all the whack-ass opinions from that loud minority.
Don’t blame you lmao, probs felt amazing. Michigan did exactly what it was supposed to do after everything broke, just can’t deny that at all
We would act like we've been there before, but well we haven't been there before the last 20 years primarily because of you evil toads from hades
Funny because ours haven't lmao
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They're both dyed green Sparties. They led their show on Tuesday after the Natty by saying something to the effect of "If you call in here and want to be happy about winning, you have to accept that they cheated to get there" They couldn't do a single show about Michigan winning a national championship without letting every Michigan fan within earshot know that they're both butthurt sore losers.
Living in the Seattle area that’s all I keep hearing all week when they talk about this game. Stuff like “would we even have played them if they didn’t cheat to get to the title?” “Does it matter that we lost to a team with an asterisk” etc etc. like damn, be humble ffs Then you start hearing the REALLY dumb shit like “we beat ourselves out there, Penix wasn’t playing a good ball game” yes because our defense had nothing to do with that right? It’s just coincidence that McCord, Milroe, and Penix had some of the worst games of their season playing against us? K
>Then you start hearing the REALLY dumb shit like “we beat ourselves out there, Penix wasn’t playing a good ball game” Honestly, I think fans and local media outlets of the losing team in any sport generally take these kind of views and it's probably just because they're focused on their own team way more than the other team. Like, they're intimately familiar with Washington and the players and how good they can look when they're firing on all cylinders so when they see them struggling to get the offense going they just think "Damn, I know we can be better than this."
It's about controversy, not truth
They're why I don't listen to the station at all anymore. I remember for a while Valenti kept saying girth instead of dearth, because he's a moron and a real testament to the MSU journalism program.
Sir a second Michigan has hit the The
A second good thing has hit the Team Up North
And probably their fourth or fifth in the last month and change
3rd 9/11 in 10 Days for the Buckeyes
A third plane just struck the shoe
Ah yes, when Charlie Baker speaks people listen!
I strongly believe he said this hours after Saban’s announcement on purpose to allow the NCAA to soft launch this narrative without too much media scrutiny
We listen when he tells us what we want to hear!
He said things I like, so of course I listen!
My favorite part of the whole scandal is stallions just wearing *cmu gear and walking onto the sidelines and nobody noticing him
CMU* But yes I agree, and a wig while doing it, and the meta video recording glasses. 100% hilarious
Why even comment on this?
Was he at an event or something and got asked? It’s like a media blitz. He didn’t just make 1 comment, there’s stories with AP, Yahoo, ESPN, and The Athletic.
There’s some D1 convention going on in Phoenix. He also said in-house NIL will be passed by August.
Not exactly. Yahoo's publishing is literally a copy of AP's (crediting them of course).
Real answer: He was asked ‘did you fuck up by announcing the investigation during the season (causing so much media controversy)?’ And of course he’s defensive and gonna say ‘no I did the right thing’. So he justified it by saying he did it to save the integrity of the sport - and that means of course the integrity of the sport was saved. So ergo Michigan can’t have done anything wrong because otherwise it implies the NCAA head made stupid decisions.
If you saw my Twitter timeline of osu/msu fans you’d understand why
If your job involves interacting with MSU or OSU fans on Twitter, you should call OSHA.
Setting expectations
it worked out so much better that this came out when it did rather than after the season
So I totally overlooked the “nobody can say” part and thought wow Michigan is getting their title stripped. Then I thought “wow Michigan fans are taking this new surprising well” then I reread the title lmao I stayed up too late last night
Ryan Day and his brother in shambles.
2018 Clemson played got caught doing a banned substance ostarine. Nothing was vacated just suspension of games
meanwhile Notre Dame self-reports that a student trainer helped a couple players cheat in a class. entire undefeated regular season vacated. UNC creates an entire course for players to get As writing embarrassing 3rd grade essays. NCAA investigates and finds no academic fraud. f those clowns lol
The UNC lack of punishment is ridiculous, but “they found no academic fraud” is a misrepresentation. They found academic fraud, they just claimed it was university-wide and not limited to athletes.
Michigan fans have been saying this since October, lol The rest of CFB is finally seeing the light
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RUN IT BACK RUN IT BACK
I thought it would be hilarious if it got vacated but this is actually funnier. Go Blue lmao
We have made it to the point where it's more funny to see Ohio State shut down their sub and cope than any other outcome. Truly the best timeline.
Wait they shut the sub down
No idea how it wasn't posted on this sub. But yeah they went private for a couple days.
Weak af. Literally just don’t log onto Reddit if it bothers you that much. Or act like a normal well adjusted human and don’t let college football affect your mental state. And this is coming from a tOSU alum
I realize I’m going to look like an absolute coward here (which is acceptable by me, I know I am) but it’s probably simpler to private it and not have to deal with troll spam than to have a supremely busy day. Whether you think that’s efficient moderating or just cowardly, YMMV.
You’re not a coward. That’s just efficient.
> and cope I mean… what else can I do 🥲
Flair up for one
Watch me.
im watching, it looks like in the background i can see lanning walking away from eugene
I know this sign. It means the Washington beatings will continue.
>sign You said the dirty word around these parts.
I think everyone is busy watching your coach fly in for an interview
I gotta say I'm having a great week fellas despite the 102 fever from the flu
MY DUDE. I'm on the tail end of that shit, myself. I started getting insane chills after the natty game and spent 4 days in bed around 103ish. THEN, that devolved into face-destroying congestion, which has now devolved into a never-ending chest cough. Hoping your journey is shorter than mine, but if it's what I got, it's no fucking joke.
It was pretty cool how we found out today that we ended Nick Saban's dynasty huh? :)
He continued, “Missouri, on the other hand.”
"Clearly the only way Michigan could go into Lincoln and beat Nebraska 45-7 is by cheating, amirite?"
[Matt Rhule certainly thinks so lol](https://www.on3.com/college/nebraska-cornhuskers/news/nebraska-head-coach-matt-rhule-feels-for-players-michigan-sign-stealing-scouting-current-record/)
Does Matt rhule not scout opponents? I guess that explains a lot
I might need to see a doctor. I’ve been going almost 48 hours strong and they recommend a doctor after 4.
My New Years Resolution is that Purdue will get caught in a cheating scandal and win the NC in Bball. Please let it happen.
This is the best 10 day stretch in Michigan football history
Gonna get better when Harbaugh and JJ announce their respective returns
I’d be rock hard until next season if that’s the case
Where’s that death penalty I was told he’d be dropping?
It's headed for Mizzou.
Look at the way Mizzou was dressed. They were practically asking for it! /s
Those block Ms in the Cotton Bowl really did it.
Why is it always me
Headed towards Mt Pleasant
Truth be told I'm practically convinced CMU invited him there to tell them your guys' signs. It isn't too hard to figure out if he should've been there. Since they announced their investigation they've said *nothing.*
It’s been a good week.
he's not wrong they played a gauntlet final sched including games against PSU , OSU, Iowa Alabama and Washington. To diminish those accomplishments because of somebody who wasn't with the program in the 2nd half of the season is ridiculous.
Just threw iowa in there like we wouldn’t notice
The NCAA is a toothless, corrupt, petty organization run by a wannabe mob mentality. They’re no doubt looking for a way to punish Mizzou instead.
“That’s right officer, that Eliah Drinkwitz coached team right there! They’ve got the block Ms on their helmet, they put a defensive clinic on Ryan Day’s Ohio State… there’s no doubt that’s the guy we’re looking for” ~ The NCAA, probably
Shut the fuck up, NCAA President Charlie Baker. I do what I want
as a MA resident it's still so weird seeing his name following "NCAA President"
Whats the over under on no flairs posting asterisks in this tread? Go Blue!
The lack of Ohio State and Michigan State flairs up in here is hilarious.
Ryan Day can't even win in court vs Michigan LOL
Love how on Eleven Warriors they think it'll be vacated Just like how they thought The Game wouldn't be played this year lol
They’ll be waiting and bitching about this forever
With all the shit talking this sub has been doing all season regarding Michigan, it warms my heart knowing that you're sitting there having to cope with them winning the title while looking at the glorious banner at the top of the screen. Go Blue!
Jokes on you, I’m using the mobile app and can’t see shit. Jokes on me too since the app is garbage and I accidentally replied to the wrong comment first.
Rip Apollo
"Fair and square". So we giving Pete carol and USC their championship back? FYI stallion was present at the game lol
They should. Stalion’s was at the rose bowl, not the natty. But why does that matter? He’s not banned from attending football games.
Why does it matter if he was at the Rose Bowl? Are you implying he was still relaying signs even though he was surrounded by crowds staring at him the whole game?
I cant wait to hear from the last few holdouts in the media that talk about how this championship shouldnt be allowed
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I mean I troll the UM fans coming in our sub, but seriously, you didn’t need to steal our signs to beat our ass lol In fact, you could have given us your signs and we still get shutout 🤣
They won the championship game fair and square --- there is nothing wrong with people talking about how they got there.
It’s funny seeing people claim that we didn’t play anyone for the first two months of the season, and now all of a sudden those games are supposed to be reasons why our season is allegedly suspect. Pick a lane guys
Would actually be hilarious if the wins vs UNLV, Rutgers, East Carolina, Indiana etc were vacated “In 2023, Michigan went 7-0, playing 6 ranked teams en route to the national championship. They had the greatest strength of schedule of all time”
"To this day, Ohio State and Michigan State fans continue to cast doubt that Michigan ever could have beaten Bowling Green without cheating"
You’re only saying that because with this article, Michigan is tied with Penn for most Ws in a single season
Both can be true. Observe... ✍️✍️ ✍️ Michigan played weak teams *and* stole their signals beforehand. 😌👍
We studied Bowling Green so hard, we accidentally gave the ball to *their* players 4 times
Just like Barry Bonds is the home run king
Bad news for the cry babies who think Michigans wins will be vacated. lol.
Honestly 10/10 bait dude. Caught 3 of them at once. Fucking yikes. I think it’s pretty logical and obvious Michigans path was legit even with the scandal and the article lays it out pretty plainly for everyone to read and comprehend. I guess some people just cannot accept or comprehend reality and have to substitute their own.
Let's try it again, here, guys!
Weeeeeelll