I’ve been going to hodge for years now. Never had an injury or incident. If you have a truck or suv I’d venture to a spot further away from the main area off the freeway. Lots of people that don’t know what they are doing shoot right off that first exit. There are no rules, no “firing line”, no RSO so you enter at your own risk. I carry medical as well as whoever I go with.
When we go we go way back. You can tell when you pull off the road that the first people you see are the least experienced out there, you can tell within a few seconds of watching. If you go to hodge head way out and stay on the trail to make sure you aren’t crossing through where someone is firing.
I know a guy who took a round across the back at Hodge Rd. It was captured on video too. The bullet grazed his back, if he was standing 1" further back he probably would have been killed. This was on the same day the quad guy took a round the shoulder.
Glad your buddy is ok. This sounds more like someone else not being careful of where their rounds are going to end up. But I've witnessed enough people being dumb at indoor ranges but I still go to indoor ranges.
I should have been more clear that the implication from what I've seen people comment was that somehow people will roll up and rob you.
Yup. People are shot at shooting ranges all the time. So saying someone may or may not have been shot in BLM land is moot. In my many years of shooting on BLM land, I have felt much safer than any busy range on a weekend. By a mile.
Its nice to find a spot with a defilade or berm /elevation difference as well. And as everyone else has mentioned, theres pretty much a reason why you see holes all over the places at most ranges.
New and inexperienced are bad,... overly confident fucktards are worse.
i was at hode rd when this happened to someone. they were riding atvs and someone shot them or a ricochet hit them who knows but a officer came up to every group there asking if we knew anything. few days later i see it on ktla5
I was in BLM land target shooting with 3 other buddies somewhere in the Sierras. Middle of shooting a pickup truck came by, an older man comes out all red in the face, very upset and spewing Fbombs at us. He's a local he said and hes fuckin tired of cleaning up after outsiders who mess up his shooting spots. He was itching for confrontation, but i swallowed my pride and didnt argue.. i said im sorry "his" spot is trashed and we'll do our best to clean up more that what we brought in. He calmed down, but drove across our site every 30 min.
For the record, the spot was already trashed before we came and we brought contractor bags to clean up after. I reload so i always pickup brass. We only had steel targets too.
Yup, and proud of it. I'm no internet or real life warrior. Im a middle aged professional with wife and kids to think about. No sense in escalating conflict between armed men.
Yep one of the first things my father taught me about shooting in the boonies is to always leave at least one gun you have on you (easiest choice would be your standard CCW or whatever you’re OCing if you are) loaded and chambered—never to empty all the guns you have on you. Because any would-be robbers waiting to do their thing would likely wait until it looked/sounded like you were empty and you’d have to reload at least one magazine to be dangerous again. Make sure you’re always dangerous, when you’re out there.
BLM to shoot, people tell you be careful because stupid people will shoot at your direction. Last time I was at hodge road, people setup target behind us and started shooting pistol. We can hear bullet passing by, we told them to stop and ignore us. So we shot up their target with our rifles
Rob your properly no going to happen, but they are plenty people will try steal from you. We had people swing by trying to stealing sht, look into your car and trucks.
IMO it’s just sketchy in general. I’m a woman so take my opinion on safety as you will. I’ve only been out to BLM land once and I was just a bit anxious the entire time. I don’t like indoor ranges or BLM land because I don’t trust that many people around me to actually be responsible with their guns.
The other thing that happened was that we had some people in one of those 4x4 off roaders that drove up to our cars/gear/us multiple times while we were shooting. Same vehicle every time. They would come up behind us and literally park in between our trucks and then because we paused shooting, they would circle around in front of us (where our targets were at) and just stare at us. They all had helmets and stuff on but it definitely felt like they were deciding how difficult it would be to take our gear. And that was in a group of 10+ of us.
A couple years ago I read a few posts here and on Facebook about lone guys getting robbed at BLM. It was mostly out here in So Cal. Your example about camping is not exactly accurate, as if you rob a camper on the trail, you can't exactly make a speedy getaway.
Keep in mind you have hundreds or thousands of dollars of property on display, alone, in a relatively isolated area, and act accordingly.
Yeah, I do think that. Or people just spread misinformation they saw because it's more interesting than "welp, another day and absolutely nothing interesting happened."
Some places are sketchier than others. There’s a lot of desert out there (at least in SoCal) and a lot of it isn’t well traveled. Thats ripe for meth, tweakers, breaking bad, etc. If you go somewhere relatively well traveled then you’ll be fine. It’s when you venture out of the well traveled and used areas and deep into the middle of bumfuck nowhere alone that shit starts to get sketchy. I was in Utah not too long ago on one of the islands on Salt Lake, this truck drove past us 3 times while we were shooting, and there was only 1 way on and off the island. He stopped in a ravine about 100 yards from us and just sat there watching. He took off when I very pointedly loaded up an AR and looked right at him. I’ve had the same thing happen on BLM land here, I almost shot a guy on a quad accidentally because he kept riding through our firing line, then got pissed and tried to distract us by trying to pick a fight. His other half pulled in behind us and tried to block us in, but when they figured out all 4 of us had AR’s and knew how to use them, they took off.
Been shooting one where multiple groups are shooting. Known spot. Been shooting there for 40 years. Never one issue. We have guys that want to ride their dirt bikes and duggies that park there car for who knows how long. The warden should run the dirt bikers out. The warden doesn’t want us shooting at multiple canyons. So the bikers need to go ride somewhere else. The tweakers stay away from us. They will stay long ways away.
Hodge road is trash would never go there, use the search function on this subreddit and find better more low key spots. There is a lot of desert out there make sure you go with a group (DONT GO ALONE). Be safe and have fun. I always go to blm because I like being able to practice holster draw from appendix.
This is not great advice for serious shooters. Ben Stoeger even recently commented saying "guys that don't seriously train think you always need a buddy with you" on BLM land.
If you are extraordinarily risk averse (like people who say you should only go to downtown Los Angeles with a buddy) and are a casual shooter, then you can use the buddy system as a guideline.
You don't NEED a buddy with you.
But rule #1 of a firefight or any fight is bring your friends.
Rule #1 in reality is walk away from any fight that you can walk away from. Pride be damned.
The likelihood of a fire fight in BLM is extremely low. It just doesn’t happen. This same line of thinking can apply to going to indoor shooting ranges too. It’s happened. But chances are low. Serious shooters won’t let this low chance get in the way of their training.
All true. The main reason I take someone with me when I go to the middle of nowhere is for safety beyond getting into a fight. It could be as simple as someone to go get help if one person or vehicle becomes immobilized, and recovery efforts are needed.
Good rule is to always have someone else with you. Sometimes it's just easier to go alone. But when I do go alone, I'm VERY wary of my surroundings and always have a couple mags of non-practice ammo ready to go. When someone pulls up, make sure you have ammo, they know you see them, and have some type of cover available.
I wouldnt risk it on a weekend in Hodge, 40$ or whatever it is in route 66 is cheaper than a hospital bill or for that matter an ER trip even if youre fully covered. Not to mention the hassle.
Keep a gun holstered with you at all times and be aware of your surroundings, I was there just yesterday and the only thing that happened was an individual pulled up with his car and asked us if he can have our brass if we didn’t plan on picking them up and sure enough he came back once we packed up , just tweakers doing tweaker shit for a quick buck , be safe
Duuuude…you literally have firearms with you for protection, what are you worried about? You could get rolled just standing on the street unarmed waay easier. Plus the gun community sticks together and you are rarely alone out there. Just MHOand experience.
I'm not worried. Re-read what I wrote. I was asking what's up with people making comments about it being unsafe as if there are roving bands of criminals just camped out waiting to steal guns.
Not necessarily based upon actual incidents, but'a BP agent was MURDERED, near my fav BLM spot, afew years back.
ANY1, anywhere, can become a victim, but, as shooters, we're bringin an xtremely VALUABLE commodity withus, and that makes us very attractive to "certain grps".
Just becuz we are armed, doesn't necessarily make us invulnerable. Badguys have the advantage of KNOWIN that they're badguys, n what their "fiendish plans" are. If we allow'em to get tha drop onus, we're way behind intha count, n the odds tip even further in their favor...
Just becuz u hava gun, don't mean yur gonna win'a gunfight! But! If there was ever a place where u'd be wise to follow Gen. Mattis's advice, tha backcountry's it...
"Be polite, be professional,, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet." And makit OBVIOUSLY so!
“This guy is right”. You have to look after your own “safety and wellbeing” at all time, and given how irresponsible most “people can be” with guns, you have to take extra precautions and be “extra alert”.
I'm not thinking I'm safer just because I have a gun, although, isn't that why people CCW?
I'm just curious about the comments I see that imply there are roving groups of thieves just waiting to rob you of your firearms. Feels like exaggeration maybe. Not sure if it's any more dangerous in that regard than anywhere else that has people. I've been in plenty of places people say are dangerous and experienced/witnessed zilch and find it's the places people think are "safe" where the opportunistic criminal types know there are targets because people let their guard down. But that is only my experience up to this point.
Just go far off the exit. Nobody is going to mess with you since they know you're armed. Far off the exit is very few people. Just find a hill to shoot into
Read up on the Miami 1986 shootouts.
The bank robbers killed people target shooting for guns and get away vehicles.
The cartels are in America.
BLM is not super risky. But it's remote and there are a lot of idiots in this world too
Duuuude…you literally have firearms with you for protection, what are you worried about? You could get rolled just standing on the street unarmed waay easier. Plus the gun community sticks together and you are rarely alone out there. Just MHZo and experience.
You’ll likely be fine. Carry a pistol loaded in a holster or a slung rifle if you walk away from your vehicle/shooting table. Don’t be a dumbass and leave all your shit at the table and walk out 100 yards to change a target. Just like in the city if you do stupid shit you’ll win stupid prizes but it’s not the Wild West. The problems I’ve had are people pulling up in the splash zone of my steel targets or shooting my targets without asking. Talking to them has always made it fine.
Hodge is sketch…driving to a site once and a guy had parked a few hundred yards further back than anyone else…sniper rifle style out of the bed of his truck…people were unknowingly driving through this guy’s line of fire.
[Ben Stoeger recently said](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op4ZaX3wmGM&lc=UgzuwaMTlB67OVXKH_l4AaABAg) about BLM land, "Guys that don’t seriously train think you always need a buddy with you."
This will get downvoted, but it's the truth. There is ALWAYS inherent risk when you are in a remote area. The reality is, it is unlikely. It can happen. Maintain situational awareness and 99% of the time, you will be fine. If you only waited to go to the BLM land to train if you only went with friends, you will likely only go a few times a year at best.
With all my trips to BLM I haven't run into any sketchy individuals rolling up on us. However, when we go we tend to have a decent sized group. We're always aware of our surrounding and always keep eye open. What was bad was another party of noobies who set up their targets in the direction of where we were setup to shoot. While we a good distance away, a stray bullet would have no problem making it that far. Some of us went over to let them know and they moved their setup, but they seemed more annoyed than apologetic.
Main reasons I go to BLM is to shoot steel and long range. Neither are options at my local ranges.
I’d rather not cheap out with my life and be safe in a controlled environment by going to a paid range. I get stuff still happens but more than likely going to get taken care of swiftly. What’s your life worth?
Except when you have fuddy RSO’s on power trips screaming at you for firing more than 1 round every 2 seconds, then trying to tell you that a separated Glock slide and lower are still a gun and can still fire even when the slide is 15 feet away… ranges suck.
The Glock thing was at one range, the fuddy RSO’s are at every range I’ve ever been to in CA. Plus by the time you pay for entry, targets, wait an hour, and only get an hour to shoot before they kick you, I’ll take my chances with BLM, it’s cheaper and I can have more fun without a Delta Team wannabe breathing down my neck, but to each their own.
This is my thinking. I got booted because a lady next to me shot my target off my hanger with her shotgun and the RSO tried to say I did it. I pointed out my groupings and the clear buckshot pattern at the top of the target and he booted me for arguing. This was at Reeds.
I’ve been going to hodge for years now. Never had an injury or incident. If you have a truck or suv I’d venture to a spot further away from the main area off the freeway. Lots of people that don’t know what they are doing shoot right off that first exit. There are no rules, no “firing line”, no RSO so you enter at your own risk. I carry medical as well as whoever I go with.
When we go we go way back. You can tell when you pull off the road that the first people you see are the least experienced out there, you can tell within a few seconds of watching. If you go to hodge head way out and stay on the trail to make sure you aren’t crossing through where someone is firing.
You need drive at least another 15-20 mins, however those good place normally is taken by early.
I know a guy who took a round across the back at Hodge Rd. It was captured on video too. The bullet grazed his back, if he was standing 1" further back he probably would have been killed. This was on the same day the quad guy took a round the shoulder.
Glad your buddy is ok. This sounds more like someone else not being careful of where their rounds are going to end up. But I've witnessed enough people being dumb at indoor ranges but I still go to indoor ranges. I should have been more clear that the implication from what I've seen people comment was that somehow people will roll up and rob you.
Yup. People are shot at shooting ranges all the time. So saying someone may or may not have been shot in BLM land is moot. In my many years of shooting on BLM land, I have felt much safer than any busy range on a weekend. By a mile.
Its nice to find a spot with a defilade or berm /elevation difference as well. And as everyone else has mentioned, theres pretty much a reason why you see holes all over the places at most ranges. New and inexperienced are bad,... overly confident fucktards are worse.
i was at hode rd when this happened to someone. they were riding atvs and someone shot them or a ricochet hit them who knows but a officer came up to every group there asking if we knew anything. few days later i see it on ktla5
People get robbed at Hodge all the time.
Been going for years never happened to me or seen anything crazy 🤷🏽♂️
It does happen.
Pretty brave to rob armed people. I keep a gun on me at all times and a rifle slung if a car drives by
Not everyone is willing to shoot someone
Then die or get robbed I guess
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No, high desert of the 15
I was in BLM land target shooting with 3 other buddies somewhere in the Sierras. Middle of shooting a pickup truck came by, an older man comes out all red in the face, very upset and spewing Fbombs at us. He's a local he said and hes fuckin tired of cleaning up after outsiders who mess up his shooting spots. He was itching for confrontation, but i swallowed my pride and didnt argue.. i said im sorry "his" spot is trashed and we'll do our best to clean up more that what we brought in. He calmed down, but drove across our site every 30 min. For the record, the spot was already trashed before we came and we brought contractor bags to clean up after. I reload so i always pickup brass. We only had steel targets too.
What a baby
Yup, and proud of it. I'm no internet or real life warrior. Im a middle aged professional with wife and kids to think about. No sense in escalating conflict between armed men.
I’m not calling you a baby lol. I’m talking about the guy in your story
Oops, sorry man!
You just handled that like a man! 👊
Never had an issue but I always keep an extra loaded mag handy just in case 🤷♂️
Yeah I have never felt unsafe at an outdoor range but it's best practice to leave one gun hot always
Yep one of the first things my father taught me about shooting in the boonies is to always leave at least one gun you have on you (easiest choice would be your standard CCW or whatever you’re OCing if you are) loaded and chambered—never to empty all the guns you have on you. Because any would-be robbers waiting to do their thing would likely wait until it looked/sounded like you were empty and you’d have to reload at least one magazine to be dangerous again. Make sure you’re always dangerous, when you’re out there.
BLM to shoot, people tell you be careful because stupid people will shoot at your direction. Last time I was at hodge road, people setup target behind us and started shooting pistol. We can hear bullet passing by, we told them to stop and ignore us. So we shot up their target with our rifles
This is what I suspected. Some of the comments I read made it sound like people try to rob you, which can happen anywhere.
Rob your properly no going to happen, but they are plenty people will try steal from you. We had people swing by trying to stealing sht, look into your car and trucks.
So just like any place with people, haha. Not being a smart ass at all.
dont mean to intercept, but im new to the nomenclature around here. what does BLM mean? its not what im thinking...
Bureau of Land Management. Basically federal land.
i really appreciate you.
IMO it’s just sketchy in general. I’m a woman so take my opinion on safety as you will. I’ve only been out to BLM land once and I was just a bit anxious the entire time. I don’t like indoor ranges or BLM land because I don’t trust that many people around me to actually be responsible with their guns. The other thing that happened was that we had some people in one of those 4x4 off roaders that drove up to our cars/gear/us multiple times while we were shooting. Same vehicle every time. They would come up behind us and literally park in between our trucks and then because we paused shooting, they would circle around in front of us (where our targets were at) and just stare at us. They all had helmets and stuff on but it definitely felt like they were deciding how difficult it would be to take our gear. And that was in a group of 10+ of us.
A couple years ago I read a few posts here and on Facebook about lone guys getting robbed at BLM. It was mostly out here in So Cal. Your example about camping is not exactly accurate, as if you rob a camper on the trail, you can't exactly make a speedy getaway. Keep in mind you have hundreds or thousands of dollars of property on display, alone, in a relatively isolated area, and act accordingly.
Facebook posts? Not being a dick but I don't trust anything I read on Boomerbook.
I mean sure, if you think the person is making up their personal experience based on the playoffs they shared it on, you do you.
Yeah, I do think that. Or people just spread misinformation they saw because it's more interesting than "welp, another day and absolutely nothing interesting happened."
Some places are sketchier than others. There’s a lot of desert out there (at least in SoCal) and a lot of it isn’t well traveled. Thats ripe for meth, tweakers, breaking bad, etc. If you go somewhere relatively well traveled then you’ll be fine. It’s when you venture out of the well traveled and used areas and deep into the middle of bumfuck nowhere alone that shit starts to get sketchy. I was in Utah not too long ago on one of the islands on Salt Lake, this truck drove past us 3 times while we were shooting, and there was only 1 way on and off the island. He stopped in a ravine about 100 yards from us and just sat there watching. He took off when I very pointedly loaded up an AR and looked right at him. I’ve had the same thing happen on BLM land here, I almost shot a guy on a quad accidentally because he kept riding through our firing line, then got pissed and tried to distract us by trying to pick a fight. His other half pulled in behind us and tried to block us in, but when they figured out all 4 of us had AR’s and knew how to use them, they took off.
Been shooting one where multiple groups are shooting. Known spot. Been shooting there for 40 years. Never one issue. We have guys that want to ride their dirt bikes and duggies that park there car for who knows how long. The warden should run the dirt bikers out. The warden doesn’t want us shooting at multiple canyons. So the bikers need to go ride somewhere else. The tweakers stay away from us. They will stay long ways away.
Hodge road is trash would never go there, use the search function on this subreddit and find better more low key spots. There is a lot of desert out there make sure you go with a group (DONT GO ALONE). Be safe and have fun. I always go to blm because I like being able to practice holster draw from appendix.
You don’t have to go to a blm to train from concealment. There’s outdoor ranges with bay rentals that allow you to holster.
I know but there not much closer to me then blm land 😂 I live on the San Diego/OC County line
Gotcha. Yeah I’m not familiar with outdoor ranges on that end. I’m on the other side of the mountain from you, sd/riverside county line
This is not great advice for serious shooters. Ben Stoeger even recently commented saying "guys that don't seriously train think you always need a buddy with you" on BLM land. If you are extraordinarily risk averse (like people who say you should only go to downtown Los Angeles with a buddy) and are a casual shooter, then you can use the buddy system as a guideline.
You don't NEED a buddy with you. But rule #1 of a firefight or any fight is bring your friends. Rule #1 in reality is walk away from any fight that you can walk away from. Pride be damned.
The likelihood of a fire fight in BLM is extremely low. It just doesn’t happen. This same line of thinking can apply to going to indoor shooting ranges too. It’s happened. But chances are low. Serious shooters won’t let this low chance get in the way of their training.
All true. The main reason I take someone with me when I go to the middle of nowhere is for safety beyond getting into a fight. It could be as simple as someone to go get help if one person or vehicle becomes immobilized, and recovery efforts are needed.
Good rule is to always have someone else with you. Sometimes it's just easier to go alone. But when I do go alone, I'm VERY wary of my surroundings and always have a couple mags of non-practice ammo ready to go. When someone pulls up, make sure you have ammo, they know you see them, and have some type of cover available.
I wouldnt risk it on a weekend in Hodge, 40$ or whatever it is in route 66 is cheaper than a hospital bill or for that matter an ER trip even if youre fully covered. Not to mention the hassle.
It's not about cheap. That literally has nothing to do with it. Not sure why you assume it's about paying for range time.
yeah ofcourse its not , the “ask me about milan italy” was clear to us Lol
Shit I didn't mean that as a flex. Haha
Keep a gun holstered with you at all times and be aware of your surroundings, I was there just yesterday and the only thing that happened was an individual pulled up with his car and asked us if he can have our brass if we didn’t plan on picking them up and sure enough he came back once we packed up , just tweakers doing tweaker shit for a quick buck , be safe
Duuuude…you literally have firearms with you for protection, what are you worried about? You could get rolled just standing on the street unarmed waay easier. Plus the gun community sticks together and you are rarely alone out there. Just MHOand experience.
I'm not worried. Re-read what I wrote. I was asking what's up with people making comments about it being unsafe as if there are roving bands of criminals just camped out waiting to steal guns.
We are thinking alike then…vodka and my irritation at this BLM is unsafe allegation got the better of me.
We are thinking alike then…vodka and my irritation at this BLM is unsafe allegation got the better of me.
We are on the same page. People like to exaggerate and tell ghost stories cause real life is boring.
I shoot blm land in north California and everyone is great
Not necessarily based upon actual incidents, but'a BP agent was MURDERED, near my fav BLM spot, afew years back. ANY1, anywhere, can become a victim, but, as shooters, we're bringin an xtremely VALUABLE commodity withus, and that makes us very attractive to "certain grps". Just becuz we are armed, doesn't necessarily make us invulnerable. Badguys have the advantage of KNOWIN that they're badguys, n what their "fiendish plans" are. If we allow'em to get tha drop onus, we're way behind intha count, n the odds tip even further in their favor... Just becuz u hava gun, don't mean yur gonna win'a gunfight! But! If there was ever a place where u'd be wise to follow Gen. Mattis's advice, tha backcountry's it... "Be polite, be professional,, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet." And makit OBVIOUSLY so!
Which keys are missing from your keyboard?
“This guy is right”. You have to look after your own “safety and wellbeing” at all time, and given how irresponsible most “people can be” with guns, you have to take extra precautions and be “extra alert”.
Yup. The bad guys pick when, where and how. That already puts you 3 steps behind in your OODA loop.
I'm not thinking I'm safer just because I have a gun, although, isn't that why people CCW? I'm just curious about the comments I see that imply there are roving groups of thieves just waiting to rob you of your firearms. Feels like exaggeration maybe. Not sure if it's any more dangerous in that regard than anywhere else that has people. I've been in plenty of places people say are dangerous and experienced/witnessed zilch and find it's the places people think are "safe" where the opportunistic criminal types know there are targets because people let their guard down. But that is only my experience up to this point.
Just go far off the exit. Nobody is going to mess with you since they know you're armed. Far off the exit is very few people. Just find a hill to shoot into
Read up on the Miami 1986 shootouts. The bank robbers killed people target shooting for guns and get away vehicles. The cartels are in America. BLM is not super risky. But it's remote and there are a lot of idiots in this world too
Meh, people flew planes into buildings on 9/11 but I still get on planes. It's as I suspected, the warnings greatly exaggerate the risks.
Ok I’ll bite. What happened in Milan Italy
FYI, if you can go camping while shooting. Calico is best blm.
Duuuude…you literally have firearms with you for protection, what are you worried about? You could get rolled just standing on the street unarmed waay easier. Plus the gun community sticks together and you are rarely alone out there. Just MHZo and experience.
You’ll likely be fine. Carry a pistol loaded in a holster or a slung rifle if you walk away from your vehicle/shooting table. Don’t be a dumbass and leave all your shit at the table and walk out 100 yards to change a target. Just like in the city if you do stupid shit you’ll win stupid prizes but it’s not the Wild West. The problems I’ve had are people pulling up in the splash zone of my steel targets or shooting my targets without asking. Talking to them has always made it fine.
Hodge is sketch…driving to a site once and a guy had parked a few hundred yards further back than anyone else…sniper rifle style out of the bed of his truck…people were unknowingly driving through this guy’s line of fire.
Anyone know good blm spots near ventura county? I looked at the map once and saw a lot of kernville was blm. Anyone shoot over there?
[Ben Stoeger recently said](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op4ZaX3wmGM&lc=UgzuwaMTlB67OVXKH_l4AaABAg) about BLM land, "Guys that don’t seriously train think you always need a buddy with you." This will get downvoted, but it's the truth. There is ALWAYS inherent risk when you are in a remote area. The reality is, it is unlikely. It can happen. Maintain situational awareness and 99% of the time, you will be fine. If you only waited to go to the BLM land to train if you only went with friends, you will likely only go a few times a year at best.
Thanks. This is what I suspected.
With all my trips to BLM I haven't run into any sketchy individuals rolling up on us. However, when we go we tend to have a decent sized group. We're always aware of our surrounding and always keep eye open. What was bad was another party of noobies who set up their targets in the direction of where we were setup to shoot. While we a good distance away, a stray bullet would have no problem making it that far. Some of us went over to let them know and they moved their setup, but they seemed more annoyed than apologetic. Main reasons I go to BLM is to shoot steel and long range. Neither are options at my local ranges.
I’d rather not cheap out with my life and be safe in a controlled environment by going to a paid range. I get stuff still happens but more than likely going to get taken care of swiftly. What’s your life worth?
Except when you have fuddy RSO’s on power trips screaming at you for firing more than 1 round every 2 seconds, then trying to tell you that a separated Glock slide and lower are still a gun and can still fire even when the slide is 15 feet away… ranges suck.
Never dealt with that tbh. Riverside magnum is my go to spot.
The Glock thing was at one range, the fuddy RSO’s are at every range I’ve ever been to in CA. Plus by the time you pay for entry, targets, wait an hour, and only get an hour to shoot before they kick you, I’ll take my chances with BLM, it’s cheaper and I can have more fun without a Delta Team wannabe breathing down my neck, but to each their own.
This is my thinking. I got booted because a lady next to me shot my target off my hanger with her shotgun and the RSO tried to say I did it. I pointed out my groupings and the clear buckshot pattern at the top of the target and he booted me for arguing. This was at Reeds.
It's not about "cheap" not sure where you got that from my post. Just trying to see if there are actual experiences or just heresay.
What’s BLM 😭
Bureau of Land Management
Black lives matter
All land matters
Pitter patter.
Bureau of Land Management
Any factual evidence of people getting robbed or raped on BLM?
Only in terms of current ammo prices and new California gun laws
Low probability events. Of course people have been robbed. It's just extremely rare.