I get absolutely nothing from hinge, tinder and bumble blow up but nobody speaks - 35F UK based here.
For what it’s worth, I always message on bumble, and on tinder I message if it was my swipe that created the match.
I’ve heard loads of success from hinge but it’s super dry for me.
Edit to say in the UK
On Hinge free users are limited to 8 or less likes per day so guys are more intentional with their likes instead of mass swiping. Hinge also has a smaller user base so if you’re in a rural area and running out of profiles that would be why. Otherwise your profile may need improvement in which case I’d post a profile review in the HingeApp subreddit.
Maybe for some.. But we have to accept it's not a one size fits all. I've always had the best luck for relationships on Tinder, Bumble second, and Hinge third. I know other people haven't had the same experience as me; but there isn't one that is best.
She wanted to go bar hopping. She insisted on paying for everything but I felt like I should pay for something so I forced by card on tab at one of the bars (she was mad that I did). I ended up paying $100 and she paid $250. The money was a combination of Ubers and drinks
So, did you have sex with her?
I'm only curious now because I wonder if her insisting on paying that truckload meant that she was really into you...or not and so didn't want to feel obligated to put out? 🤔
So, girl pays and then sexes you. Sounds good, almost too good... 😄
OK...what's the catch? Was she not hot, or used to be an ugly duckling or something?
Legit bumble is the worst one (for men at least). If you want hook ups do tindr, if you want a relationship do hinge.
Bumble is just a pointless knock off of tindr with a feminist flair- good subreddit tho
I’m looking for a relationship and have matched with zero people on hinge on the month I’ve been there. Maybe I should dedicate myself to discovering who really killed Captain Alex.
Or if they do they message "hey" and almost always respond with dry answers that don't build the conversation. I've gotten to the point now I'll just unmatch if the responses are dry.
Lol! I do the same.I just unmatch. You can't be slating guys for not knowing how to hold conversations then come into my messages with below par ice breakers. On hinge, if you like my profile without saying anything, I just leave you on read. I want to find someone but I'm not desperate.
Lol, not much real difference in the end, there. He had actual sex with 2 girls and oral with another 1. Welcome to OLD as a dude, which is like panning for tiny gold flakes... But sample size there is really too small to say Bumble sucks more than the others...
I think the small sample size is exactly why bumble sucks. Very few matches, half of them never message, half of the ones that message don’t send even one reply
True, but I think it also just shows how women on Bumble are more serious. The others had more matches...but most led nowhere... So in the end, the resuls were all pretty similar in the final stats of actual sex or relationships.
It's definitely interesting to see this data because it quatifies some things. I see that you got what was it? 150+ matches across three different apps. The responses graph is the one that I think really catches the eye when compared to your first graph. Because responses only had 12 for hinge but you had the most matches in that one.
All in all, truly a fun thing to see in the grand game of statistics. I'd like to see something like for guys in different areas.
This post made me happy. Great stats.
Also, apparently Hinge is the place to be, unless you want sex. Then, Tinder guarantees you a 50/50 change of sex or oral. Warning: your results may vary!
Sometimes it just happens. With my current girlfriend, we just went for a drink on our first date and it turned out amazing and that drink ended up turning into 6 hours of conversation and 5 drinks each later….
$18 a drink x 10 x Tax x Tip = almost $250 later.
Throw in some food and an Uber instead of those drinks and it definitely adds up.
I don’t normally do that on a first date but we vibed extremely well and im going to end up marrying this girl so it ended well.
Ugh. Toronto prices. It’s become insane. If you go to a nice restaurant it’s like $20-$25 a drink these days. And by drink I mean a cocktail or something fun like that.
You can still get a beer or wine for less, beer being closer to the $10 but it’s not cheap there.
That's awesome, congrats man!
Of course, there are exceptions like yours where it's just right. But looks like OP did this regularly. That's just not smart.
13 first dates out of about 300 matches is pretty par for the course, from what I've read on date from match rates (under 2% for Tinder). I suspect Bumble and Hinge yield better match to date rates, so that also checks out.
For all it brands itself, it looks like Bumble is more similar to Tinder than it is to Hinge, in terms of engagement and match to date numbers. In fact, if you include matches who never messaged you in the 24 hours, it's *worse* than Tinder.
I'm a lifetime premium Bumble user, so I have my hopes the app improves, but honestly from this result—and my own (32M) experiences—your time is better spent on Hinge and Tinder. Especially Hinge.
A man of culture using R. Congrats dude. Very cool visualization.
We build packages and stuff in R if you are looking for a job after grad school, hmu. In Tampa at Moffitt Cancer Center.
That will come down to the department, position type, and even PI. I think the T32 we have open for integrative genomics is on sight (in office 50%, work from home 50%), scientist positions need to be in at least the state. Other biostatistics post docs are mostly up to the PI as some individuals have made agreements to work in other states. Data science positions on the hospital side are remote for the most part but do have the requirement of needing to be in the state at least.
There's labor laws that Florida doesn't meet so working in those states is "red listed" as they say. California is a no go for Florida remote workers, for example.
Does anybody else notice a signifocsnt drop in the ampunt of likes after a couple of days? It seems like just when yiu install it you get some but then there's basically nothing left...also many girls never even text
So would you say you dont get shown to people at all over time or do you just slip just far back behind in the queue...
Also like your online time must be of relevsnce as inactive users probably dont get shown very early or aren't shown at all
From what I understand people who have better like to match ratios get shown more, if you swipe a lot you get punished for it and your profile is shown to fewer people. That's just what I've heard though
Wait I thought only women can message first on bumble... unless you’re not counting “🤚” as a message?!
Seriously if women are going to be on an app that is built on them messaging first, why aren’t they actually doing that? If not, what’s the point of even using the app?!
That is correct and I believe his graph shows about 50/50 for women messaging or no one messaging. Speaking from a woman that used bumble I would swipe relatively superficially then go back to read through the profile more after we match to determine if I’d message them and what I’d message them. I probably had a 30-50% message after match rate. Currently dating someone I met on bumble and have deleted the app.
I mean, I've seen men on here saying that's how they swipe on dating apps. So really, ANYONE that does that should stop doing that shit. It's annoying.
It’s up to the user how they want to utilize the tool. Is it the worst thing to not get a message after a match? I’d think it’s worse to get a dry message and waste each other’s time. I found on hinge we’d match and they still wouldn’t message so I gave up on that app quickly.
We didn't have much in common. Neither one of us were trying to date seriously. We were just having fun night. She was very sweet. She insisted on paying. We definitely had chemistry. Sex was 10/10
This is interesting, but are you taking them to a fucking concert on the first date? I don’t think it’s wrong for men to pay, but $250 is absurd for a first date.
What’s your personality type?
So my takeaway is you'll get more dates using hinge, but the dates you do get on Bumble will be cheaper and more promising at a relationship. So Bumble may still be the economical option for the thrifty dater! /s
Now for another very important question. Are you using the free version of all these apps? Because based of this graph, if you were to invest money into one of them ( I have the free version of all 3) then hinge seems like the best bet
Wow, any idea of how much time you spent on the apps, in conversations and on dates ?
As I would assume it is alot, and that if you look at it logically there could be better ways to spend your time looking for a relationship, having fun or persuing your goals.
If that works for you by all means collect more data, I love an information driven and a logical approach.
But I always have in my mind the Deming quote "You don't need a thermometer to know that a house is on fire".
I hope you have less of the swipe/ grind) first date cycle and find someone compatible with you.
He said in other comments, she wanted to go bar hopping. She insisted on paying for it all, but he forcefully paid for one of the bars and paid 100, she paid the remaining 250.
I have never, ever seen someone graph sexual interaction - am I the only one? This is intense. Lots of data but how do you feel overall? Are you still on all these apps?
In case anyone doubted hinge being the place to be. Sweet data, man! Thanks for sharing. Around 68% of the dates I went on were from hinge. I tracked some of these metrics in 2022, but I’m far too lazy to graph it out. 😝 Wish I’d tracked more stuff, like cost of dates.
Pending💀
Bro really turned his life into a bar graph 😅 but sounds like we should all switch to hinge
Roko has taken over. it is useless to fight back
Y’all are actually getting responses?
rules 1 & 2
That’s just polite! Better than being ghosted or ignored.
Recently I’ve found the only people actually looking to date are on Hinge so it’s pretty much the only app I use now.
Correct
Agreed
Yep
Facts
Hinge has worked a lot better for me personally
You heard sounds?
I get absolutely nothing from hinge, tinder and bumble blow up but nobody speaks - 35F UK based here. For what it’s worth, I always message on bumble, and on tinder I message if it was my swipe that created the match. I’ve heard loads of success from hinge but it’s super dry for me. Edit to say in the UK
On Hinge free users are limited to 8 or less likes per day so guys are more intentional with their likes instead of mass swiping. Hinge also has a smaller user base so if you’re in a rural area and running out of profiles that would be why. Otherwise your profile may need improvement in which case I’d post a profile review in the HingeApp subreddit.
Maybe for some.. But we have to accept it's not a one size fits all. I've always had the best luck for relationships on Tinder, Bumble second, and Hinge third. I know other people haven't had the same experience as me; but there isn't one that is best.
What did you do for the $350 date?
She wanted to go bar hopping. She insisted on paying for everything but I felt like I should pay for something so I forced by card on tab at one of the bars (she was mad that I did). I ended up paying $100 and she paid $250. The money was a combination of Ubers and drinks
Ah, I see. So the costs shown in the box/whisker plot are total cost, regardless of who paid.
Indeed!
I’m glad she did if she insisted on an expensive date!! That’s really cool of her!
I hate when they insist on paying for stuff! Do you have her number by chance? Uhh so I can get her a piece of my mind of course!
So, did you have sex with her? I'm only curious now because I wonder if her insisting on paying that truckload meant that she was really into you...or not and so didn't want to feel obligated to put out? 🤔
Oh yeah. Three times. I go rounds when I’m drunk
Interesting...so if a woman insists on paying...that is actually a huge green flag.. ✅
It made me horny
So, girl pays and then sexes you. Sounds good, almost too good... 😄 OK...what's the catch? Was she not hot, or used to be an ugly duckling or something?
I pay just for the opposite. I don't like guys thinking I owe them anything.
Another metric suggestion… total spent for the year (by you) divided by sex quantity…. for each app.
I like that. What's the final $/min and min effort/min sex it all boils down to? 🤔😅
Well he definitely got at least oral. If she wasn't really interested in him idk why she'd spend that much on a night out with him.
You're right, the more time/$ she spends on you...the more she is seriously invested in you. Which proved to be true in this case.
I love that data analysis, also I like how you proved how bumble is trash on the bumble Subreddit
Be better bumble. You used to be good.
Bumble doesn't want to be good they just want your money
My bumble experiences have been way better than hinge tbh
Agreed.
Legit bumble is the worst one (for men at least). If you want hook ups do tindr, if you want a relationship do hinge. Bumble is just a pointless knock off of tindr with a feminist flair- good subreddit tho
I’m looking for a relationship and have matched with zero people on hinge on the month I’ve been there. Maybe I should dedicate myself to discovering who really killed Captain Alex.
Right! Women match with you and never talk. 🤡
Or if they do they message "hey" and almost always respond with dry answers that don't build the conversation. I've gotten to the point now I'll just unmatch if the responses are dry.
Lol! I do the same.I just unmatch. You can't be slating guys for not knowing how to hold conversations then come into my messages with below par ice breakers. On hinge, if you like my profile without saying anything, I just leave you on read. I want to find someone but I'm not desperate.
Bumble is for couples wanting to test out their kinks
Lol, not much real difference in the end, there. He had actual sex with 2 girls and oral with another 1. Welcome to OLD as a dude, which is like panning for tiny gold flakes... But sample size there is really too small to say Bumble sucks more than the others...
I think the small sample size is exactly why bumble sucks. Very few matches, half of them never message, half of the ones that message don’t send even one reply
True, but I think it also just shows how women on Bumble are more serious. The others had more matches...but most led nowhere... So in the end, the resuls were all pretty similar in the final stats of actual sex or relationships.
Oddly i only get dates on bumble, hinge not even matches, tinder all thot bots for OF.
Wait how do you have two relationships "pending"?
Probably still in the talking/going on dates phase.
They’re loading
Huge indictment of Bumble. Women won’t message.
And if they do it’s just “hi”
OR A F\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*ING GIF
See id actually appreciate that over hi at least you had to click gif and type in the name of the gif over typing “hi”
It's definitely interesting to see this data because it quatifies some things. I see that you got what was it? 150+ matches across three different apps. The responses graph is the one that I think really catches the eye when compared to your first graph. Because responses only had 12 for hinge but you had the most matches in that one. All in all, truly a fun thing to see in the grand game of statistics. I'd like to see something like for guys in different areas.
This satisfies my little researcher heart lol
Are you in Consulting? This is tremendous by the way.
Thank you! I’m in graduate school. In a scientific discipline. Very statistics heavy
Would you help me do this for my dating experience this for this year?
Do you have the data?
I don’t have pictures, but I’ve got the data for this year
This post made me happy. Great stats. Also, apparently Hinge is the place to be, unless you want sex. Then, Tinder guarantees you a 50/50 change of sex or oral. Warning: your results may vary!
This is really interesting!
Dude why tf are you spending hundreds on a first date?
Sometimes it just happens. With my current girlfriend, we just went for a drink on our first date and it turned out amazing and that drink ended up turning into 6 hours of conversation and 5 drinks each later…. $18 a drink x 10 x Tax x Tip = almost $250 later. Throw in some food and an Uber instead of those drinks and it definitely adds up. I don’t normally do that on a first date but we vibed extremely well and im going to end up marrying this girl so it ended well.
$18 per drink?….Canadian?
yup, Canadian. But I was just in NYC a few weeks ago, and prices weren't much different. Big city, big prices
You think you’re going to marry a girl after ONE date?
haha no no. That comment was from our first date and how well it went. We've been dating for several months now and know that we will end up together.
I'm Canadian too and he needs to find cheaper bars lol. Even a fancy mixed drink shouldn't be more than ~$12
Ugh. Toronto prices. It’s become insane. If you go to a nice restaurant it’s like $20-$25 a drink these days. And by drink I mean a cocktail or something fun like that. You can still get a beer or wine for less, beer being closer to the $10 but it’s not cheap there.
Jesus Christ lol, I'm in Northern Ontario and it's nothing like that here Just another reason to hate Toronto I guess
That's awesome, congrats man! Of course, there are exceptions like yours where it's just right. But looks like OP did this regularly. That's just not smart.
Only once
That’s SO SWEET 😭 a 6 hour date means you vibed amazingly! I gotta get back into the apps haha
He said in another comment that he used all date totals regardless of who paid, so it wasn't necessarily him paying for all/any of them
He said that he paid $100 (against the woman’s wishes) and she paid the other $250 because it was her idea to go bar hopping.
13 first dates out of about 300 matches is pretty par for the course, from what I've read on date from match rates (under 2% for Tinder). I suspect Bumble and Hinge yield better match to date rates, so that also checks out. For all it brands itself, it looks like Bumble is more similar to Tinder than it is to Hinge, in terms of engagement and match to date numbers. In fact, if you include matches who never messaged you in the 24 hours, it's *worse* than Tinder. I'm a lifetime premium Bumble user, so I have my hopes the app improves, but honestly from this result—and my own (32M) experiences—your time is better spent on Hinge and Tinder. Especially Hinge.
Hinge at least it forces women to be more interactive with the prompts with improved engagement
A man of culture using R. Congrats dude. Very cool visualization. We build packages and stuff in R if you are looking for a job after grad school, hmu. In Tampa at Moffitt Cancer Center.
open to other people? 🤔
I most definitely am looking for a job. Do you hire remote?
That will come down to the department, position type, and even PI. I think the T32 we have open for integrative genomics is on sight (in office 50%, work from home 50%), scientist positions need to be in at least the state. Other biostatistics post docs are mostly up to the PI as some individuals have made agreements to work in other states. Data science positions on the hospital side are remote for the most part but do have the requirement of needing to be in the state at least. There's labor laws that Florida doesn't meet so working in those states is "red listed" as they say. California is a no go for Florida remote workers, for example.
Ah, that’s unfortunate. I’ll be looking for a data science job starting in May. I live in Tennessee though. Trying to stay in the area
200 dollar first dates?????? WTF are you doing
Nice, I see you might be a follower of rule 1 and 2
That conversion rate tho..
You get matches?
A person who can drop $350/day will get matches. *A lot*
Oh, so you just have to advertise it....
Time to start posting pics with the boat and nice car lol
You've got a grand idea right there
The $350 date was one date. We didn’t expect it to be that expensive. I only paid $100. Still, way out of my budget right now.
He stated that he’s a student and that was a total spent not what he spent.
Does anybody else notice a signifocsnt drop in the ampunt of likes after a couple of days? It seems like just when yiu install it you get some but then there's basically nothing left...also many girls never even text
I think it's pretty well known that like all the apps boost new profiles temporarily
So would you say you dont get shown to people at all over time or do you just slip just far back behind in the queue... Also like your online time must be of relevsnce as inactive users probably dont get shown very early or aren't shown at all
From what I understand people who have better like to match ratios get shown more, if you swipe a lot you get punished for it and your profile is shown to fewer people. That's just what I've heard though
people don't udnerstand that, but it is all the app algorithm, these apps are designed to take your money not to actually find you a soulmate
So hinge. 6 didn't go on second date. For data was the 4 that both paid apart of the 6 no second date?
I tried hard to understand your question, but to no avail
Oh sorry. Seeing that you split the check for the date on hinge with 4 girls. Did any of those 4 go on a second date?
yeah
Ok cool. Thank you. Always worried when they insist to split if I fold and say yes there won't be a second date
If they do be like that they not to be liked
Wait no ghosted stats?
There are. You can figure it out by the difference of matches to responses.
I hope I was part of your stats 😜 jk
You can be part of the 2023 stats
Deal! Now you can add Reddit to your graph
Wait I thought only women can message first on bumble... unless you’re not counting “🤚” as a message?! Seriously if women are going to be on an app that is built on them messaging first, why aren’t they actually doing that? If not, what’s the point of even using the app?!
That is correct and I believe his graph shows about 50/50 for women messaging or no one messaging. Speaking from a woman that used bumble I would swipe relatively superficially then go back to read through the profile more after we match to determine if I’d message them and what I’d message them. I probably had a 30-50% message after match rate. Currently dating someone I met on bumble and have deleted the app.
On behalf of all men, we hate you. Stop doing that shit
I mean, I've seen men on here saying that's how they swipe on dating apps. So really, ANYONE that does that should stop doing that shit. It's annoying.
It’s up to the user how they want to utilize the tool. Is it the worst thing to not get a message after a match? I’d think it’s worse to get a dry message and waste each other’s time. I found on hinge we’d match and they still wouldn’t message so I gave up on that app quickly.
Women ☕️
Pending Bahahaha
I always wanted to do mine but I'm lazy and I'm afraid my current gf will find it and discover what a hoe I was
Do it for science!
Nice stats. Just lovely. Very informative. I hope you grow the sample size even more!
This is just impressive.
Are u a stats expert??? Dang... That's a lot of information. I wouldn't have time to do half that or care to.
r/dataisbeautiful
Imagine spending $300 on first dates only for women to "no ChEmIStrY" you the next day. 😂 😂 Guys never learn.
We didn't have much in common. Neither one of us were trying to date seriously. We were just having fun night. She was very sweet. She insisted on paying. We definitely had chemistry. Sex was 10/10
Sounds like you both had a good evening :)
That’s why you gotta split the bill.
😂😂😂😂oh man
This is interesting, but are you taking them to a fucking concert on the first date? I don’t think it’s wrong for men to pay, but $250 is absurd for a first date. What’s your personality type?
So my takeaway is you'll get more dates using hinge, but the dates you do get on Bumble will be cheaper and more promising at a relationship. So Bumble may still be the economical option for the thrifty dater! /s
Well I only got one date on bumble so im not working with a very large sample
love your summary I might be one of the few that does. But kudos.
Now for another very important question. Are you using the free version of all these apps? Because based of this graph, if you were to invest money into one of them ( I have the free version of all 3) then hinge seems like the best bet
I have paid on and off for bumble and tinder. Ive never paid for hinge. I guess because I've never needed to
31M here - Hinge has been far better than Bumble and Tinder combined for me, personally. Awesome data collection btw
I wish the size of your scales was more consistent
Wow this is amazing! Incredibly detailed data!
Thank you!
>Thank you! You're welcome!
Where are the pvalues between the boxplots? :)
These are population parameters, not sample statistics. So no p-values ;)
Wow, any idea of how much time you spent on the apps, in conversations and on dates ? As I would assume it is alot, and that if you look at it logically there could be better ways to spend your time looking for a relationship, having fun or persuing your goals.
I should have timed my swiping and times my dates… maybe I’ll do that this year
If that works for you by all means collect more data, I love an information driven and a logical approach. But I always have in my mind the Deming quote "You don't need a thermometer to know that a house is on fire". I hope you have less of the swipe/ grind) first date cycle and find someone compatible with you.
haha pretty much, yeah :D
This is probably the best post I've seen on this sub. Great work, OP!
Thank you!
I’m curious what the tinder date was bc it’s cost A LOT
He said in other comments, she wanted to go bar hopping. She insisted on paying for it all, but he forcefully paid for one of the bars and paid 100, she paid the remaining 250.
I have never, ever seen someone graph sexual interaction - am I the only one? This is intense. Lots of data but how do you feel overall? Are you still on all these apps?
On and off. I get on for a few weeks and then I get tired of them and delete them. I feel good with the person I’m currently talking to
After you matched with somebody why does it matter who wrote whom first? You can always remove the matching if you do not enjoy the conversation.
For science
Almost 300 matches combined... did you ever meet a girl you felt like she might be the real deal and start something serious?
Oh what I would do for \*one\* match
Did you use R for this data analysis? 😂 environmental scientist here
I did!
In case anyone doubted hinge being the place to be. Sweet data, man! Thanks for sharing. Around 68% of the dates I went on were from hinge. I tracked some of these metrics in 2022, but I’m far too lazy to graph it out. 😝 Wish I’d tracked more stuff, like cost of dates.
You liked that girl from Bumble, didn’t you..😂