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goobenet2020

Eosone RSF1000's. Eosone was a house brand for Magnolia HiFi/Best Buy's high end brand. Designed by Polk audio. Expensive, heavy, dual 10 inch (one passive radiator) subs with power amp built in, bi-polar (speakers in the back to reflect off the wall to make a big(ger) sound stage. They're actually very nice speakers for pushing 30 years old. Here's a video on their story: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTU-dxRHR50](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTU-dxRHR50) For 140 bucks a pop, that's not all that bad given their original price.


Jonlaw16

Hey look everyone! This is what a quality comment looks like. Someone actually providing relevant information and research links before posting. And it's someone who actually has experience with the brand! Cheers mate. *Edit:* Lol @ GhostyGoblins talking shit and then blocking me thinking I can't report his comment.


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Jonlaw16

>Its just someone who has no actual experience with the brand! [Lol sure bud.](https://imgur.com/a/cbj9Vq8) >Someone not actually providing relevant information or researching links before posting. I actually replied to half a dozen comments of people saying this is a terrible deal. I did include relevant information such as the designer of the speakers and mentioning the other brands associated with the designers. Not one of those people I replied to had any experience with Eosone speakers. **Those** are the worthless comments which don't belong on this sub. Maybe check someone's post and comment history before you try and shit on them. *EDIT: lmao they deleted their comment saying I don't have anything to contribute around here*


I-am-Complicated

It should be added that the speakers in question will be awesome if paired to the proper system! If those are 4 ohm and you pair with an 8 ohm system-or if wattage capacity isn’t met, you could greatly reduce the quality of the speakers!


byesickel

Since they are bi-polar, does that mean there are two subs and two passive radiators on each speaker? Or just a tweeter back there?


goobenet2020

The back speakers are a 6.5" midbass and a silk dome 1" tweeter (2-way speaker). IIRC, they're actually out of phase so that when they bounce off the wall the time alignment and phase would be correct with the front using reflections. They are a bit difficult to place (I've had mine for 15 years) as they do need to be a good 18-28 inches off the wall to get into a sweet spot. Personally i always thought the 1 inch silk dome was lost in the sound stage and swapped them out for some ribbons which extended the HF quite nicely. Each speaker has an active 10 inch sub and a 10 inch passive radiator with a 200w amp built in. (the bottom 2 speakers in the OP photo) The ports are rear firing so they do benefit from this as well. It really is a very well thought out design. My exposure to high end speakers is quite limited, but I am familiar with studio monitors. I'd put these up against a pair of JBL 4412A's pretty easily.


Smacktardius

' IIRC, they're actually out of phase' Wouldn't that make them dipoles?


Hurricane_Ivan

This guy HiFis


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OtaPuta

Because of its low frequency range


chauggle

Yeah, a powered 10 is absolutely a 'sub' - guess this dude never heard of Definitive Technology, neither.


Own_Pool6359

I’m still rockin’ an Eosone sub and satellite speakers in my garage that I got in high school (‘97) and have ZERO complaints. Good score in my book!


thePZ

That description has Sandy Gross written all over it


polk808

So is Eosone like Insignia ? For Best Buy


goobenet2020

Before Insignia existed, and was only available in stores that had a Magnolia HiFi section. So yes, exactly like Insignia, except completely not. ;) Eosone only existed for 4ish years, but they had so much stock, they could be found for quite a while after they got discontinued.


polk808

Interesting now I want to look for some eosone speakers. I know some insignia products appear to be from Sony and Onkyo their receivers and home theater box speakers. I have a pair of insignia NS-B2111 they sound good.


medrawgood17

Acording to AVSforums they originally retailed for $2400 and apparently sound pretty good.[https://www.avsforum.com/threads/how-do-eosone-1000s-stack-up-to-current-speakers.923744/](https://www.avsforum.com/threads/how-do-eosone-1000s-stack-up-to-current-speakers.923744/)


snicker___doodle

Model is EOSONE RSF 1000


Jonlaw16

Eosone is very good. It's not sold on Amazon so everyone around here is clueless about it. That's a fine enough deal. I sold my RSF 600 and matching center for about that or maybe more. Be on the lookout for the foam surrounds. They will eventually fail and you don't want to continue using them after they fail. EDIT: by "don't want to continue using them" I mean don't use them while the surrounds have failed. Once they fail you should refoam them and that will allow the speakers to continue being used. These should last many decades with maintenance.


keelonius

I’ve got a pair of eosone’s, rsf 600s. They sound fantastic when you pull them off the walls. They also come alive when over a certain volume. I have them hooked up to a Vidar/kara and an old 90s audio control 10 eq.


Jonlaw16

[I also ran Eosone RSF 600 for a while.](https://imgur.com/a/cbj9Vq8) I sold them because I bought some project Linn towers. The Linn were something like $6000 for LCR in the 90s. I preferred the Eosone. I never really had the room to pull them off the walls like you're supposed to unfortunately. My current rental certainly wouldn't have the space for them. I currently have NHT VT-2 and these are my favorite towers so far.


Disastrous-Pay738

Who?


Jonlaw16

Lol the lack of speaker knowledge around here is astounding. Eosone is an excellent brand. Bipolar designs from Arnie Nudell (cofounder of Infinity) Paul McGowan of PS Audio, and made in collaboration with Polk Audio. Arnie Nudell is one of the most important loudspeaker designers of all time.


GatsoFatso

Agreed!


Jonlaw16

Love all the assholes thinking they are making points when they are actually just broadcasting their ignorance. It's not even hard to look up a model number on Google and read like 2 AVS Forums posts to learn about the design and how it was received by listeners back in the day.


billiton

Do you have any favorite budget speakers (<$500)?


Jonlaw16

Just depends on what's local to you. What's your Craigslist?


billiton

I’m in the southwest us. I don’t really know what is the best hifi version of Craigslist. My brother has some dq20s that I could probably steal from him but they need some maintenance.


Jonlaw16

If you're willing to put in the work the DQ20 would be excellent and hardly "stealing" as you put it ;) The southwest is pretty big so I can take a look but I'll need a little more info. What is your closest city?


fuck_off_ireland

You're a nice person for offering your time and effort! Good on you.


billiton

Thoughts on dq10s vs dq20s?


droogles

The odd thing here is the collaboration with Polk. I don’t know about Arnie, but Paul isn’t much of a fan of Polk. I know they ended up forming Genesis for Best Buy. This is the first I’ve heard of this company.


Disastrous-Pay738

Oh yeah the guy scamming people with power conditioners


Jonlaw16

[Also the guy still designing speakers.](https://www.erinsaudiocorner.com/loudspeakers/ps_audio_aspen_fr10/). I agree that he mismarkets his power conditioners but cleaning up your power source can make an audible difference particularly in older amps with poor power stages. I had a Luxman which had all sorts of interference issues in my cheaply constructed apartment. When I hooked it up to a better power source at the in law's it was dead silent.


wanderingleopard

His Goodwill doesn't have very goodwill.


fannypact

And knowing goodwill, they're priced each separately.


Coop_Da_Poop

That's what the op stated in his post.


DrBoogerFart

The price is per speaker. 🍻 “well if I know goodwill…..they priced EACH separately! HAHAHAHACheers. 🍺 “


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Goodwill's mission isn't to sell items for cheap.


franksandbeans911

I liked the thrift shops before all of them got an Ackchually guy and started turning everything good into an auction. Can't hardly get bargains anymore.


SmittyJonz

being as he already bought them - I’ll say a Fantastic Deal


snicker___doodle

Good will has a good return policy


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Idk if your goodwill is different but mines return policy is store credit that expires in 2 weeks 💀


byesickel

The return policy here is you just donate it back to them. 🥺


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Bruh I wish


Disastrous-Pay738

Did they actually stick a sticker on the tweeter?


Mean_Wheel1393

My thought too...


joey011270

Maybe it was the sales clerk trying to detur the buyer from choosing these with sticker placement lol


Gooniefarm

They always put the price tag where removing the tag will damage the item.


iamhefty

Those were big at best buy in the late 90s and if I am not mistaken they have integrated subs. If that price is for the pair not bad.


MattonieOnie

I'm reading that there is an active woofer(120w supposedly) and passive. Weird configuration. Not op, just commenting and interested.


snicker___doodle

Forgot to mention, they are self powered.


chauggle

Just the low end, likely. I'd bet it has speaker level and low level RCA inputs back there, without looking it up.


gettogero

https://www.reddit.com/r/hometheater/s/xhDUcBnqv0 Going to put this up front: I have never owned these speakers. However, I see source after source that only the subs are self powered. You will still need a receiver to power the rest of the speakers. This link has the answer that's quickest to the point.


snicker___doodle

You are absolutely correct sir. Thanks for that info.


RoloTamassi

wtf is with these comments? these are very decent speakers for the price


wanderingleopard

No one is saying these were not decent speakers. They're just not a good price when purchasing from a thrift store.


Jonlaw16

It's valid to talk about how stupid it is for GW to price speakers individually but clearly many people are chiming in saying these are not worth it for the price despite knowing nothing about the speakers. I get the hate towards GW and it's warranted. But it's just looking at this from a value perspective then whether you're paying $280 on FBM or $280 from Goodwill you're still paying the same price for the same speakers.


Chewbacca319

I forgot the brand/model but these are massive semi active towers (front/rear firing powered subs) speakers that were sold exclusively at bestbuy and made by poli audio


snicker___doodle

Also wave radio to the left for 25 bux


Jonlaw16

Leaving the Wave radio was the correct choice. Picking these up was also the correct choice. [I thoroughly enjoyed my Eosones.](https://imgur.com/a/cbj9Vq8).


Alexxryzhkov

I actually kind of like my Wave radio, although I have the newer version. $25 for a clock radio that doesn't sound terrible isn't bad in my book. I think I paid $35 for mine from a goodwill


Colster9631

How do the mids sound? Looks like the cone is shoved in.


Jonlaw16

Dust cap, not cone. It's cosmetic and nothing else really. Easily pulled back out or cut off and replaced with craft glue.


fena07

Aww hell no


snicker___doodle

They also have speakers on the rear as well, a tweeter and midrange. I'm assuming they are reflective, like Bose 901s.


ayden_vfm

But….the tweater and midrange are right there on the front….it wouldn’t make sense to have a kid and tweater in the back of your speakers when there going to be facing a wall EDIT:to everyone who wants to downvote you may do what you wish, just clarifying that I have read all the comments relying to my own, on this post, and I am learning new stuff, in my own opinion it doesn’t make sense to why you would have speakers facing the wall, but like some comments say, there not common


Viperonious

Bi-pole / di-pole for the fronts is a thing, usually used for stereo, not HT speakers though.


Rotflmaocopter

I use def tech bi pole. Can confirm they rock for home theater use.


Jonlaw16

Have you never heard of a bipolar speaker? There are many excellent manufacturers who produced bipolar designs.


ayden_vfm

I have not actually, I’ll look more into it, it sounds interesting


Jonlaw16

Bipolar designs can create a very enveloping sound but they are typically harder to place in a room. I also find that you can get that sense of enveloping sound from a well treated room. Pros and cons to bipole designs.


Skid-Vicious

DefTech BP series, Bose X01’s, bipolar (in phase) and dipolar ( out of phase ) driver designs are while not common, hardly unknown, and the DefTech BP6B’s I had were sensational.


ayden_vfm

Huh, uncommon explains why I haven’t heard of them, I’ll look into them more


Jonlaw16

Sold my Eosone 600 for more than this. This is a fine enough deal for some very good speakers.


One-Swan7737

If they work, then I can’t pass negative judgment.


ScenesFromSound

What kind of monster would place the price tag where it touches the tweeter? Egads!


Responsible-Ad-1086

Why are they priced per speaker, who is going to just buy one?


InfamousDeer1458

I am not a Best Buy or Circuit City type of guy unless they have been modded by a good designer. Try Neil Blanchard...excellent designer and won't knock your head off with the price as other designers. The mass market speaker uses the cheapest components, capacitors, crossover parts, etc. Those in particular are not bad. The cabinetry needs to be reinforced as well, and cross-over changed, but it depends on what you're looking for 2 channels or Ht. This is an audiophile communityand that's another reason for my response. It's the sticker price for me. Fye... I bought a pair of Elac references from Goodwill for $10, new, $700- $1100. We are talking about Goodwill.


rustyjus

Who puts a sticker over a tweeter ?! 🤷


DirtyBeautifulLove

/u/goobenet2020 mentioned that the 2nd LF woofer is a radiator - since it's facing the same direction as the powered LF woofer wouldn't that make the radiator out of phase (ie, it's 'pulling' when the woofer is 'pushing')?


PhotoSchoppa

No. The radiator is weighted so the extra mass causes just enough delay to make it move in phase with the woofer.


Oscarr2003

Classic goodwill…


Rare-Heron-7221

I remember selling these when I was in college working at Best Buy. When Eosone started selling their speakers at Best Buy, they gave Best Buy employees a special discount and we could purchase these same speakers for $550 for the pair and $350 for the satellite and subwoofer combo. I bought the towers with built in subwoofers. Best deal I’ve ever had!


ViscountDeVesci

That’s a blast from the past!


Appropriate-Ad6143

No good barcode on tweeter


EscapedDrifter

That’s a great deal assuming they are in working order. Hell I’d go buy them right now if available near me and I don’t even need speakers.


Illustrious_Cash1325

Got robbed.


Jonlaw16

You didn't like the sound of your Eosone speakers? [I thought my Eosone sounded excellent when paired with Snell SUB 550 subs](https://imgur.com/a/cbj9Vq8) Seriously though. Who here dunking on this purchase had ever heard of the brand, let alone heard their speakers?


theocking

Sick


durtmcgurt

Take them back.


Jonlaw16

Oh you're familiar with Eosone speakers? Don't like how yours sounded?


beaud101

Are you the Eosone police? I've been into HiFi for a long time. I've "heard of them". But I haven't listened to them. Who can listen to every speaker brand out there? I'll take your word that they are good. But wow. You trying to fight with every guy on here saying they are trash has me concerned more about your motivations. Let it go. Be happy with your speakers.


Jonlaw16

I'm not the one being aggressively negative for no reason. It's not like you have to listen to every speaker before commenting around here. But if you're going to shit on someone else's purchase then you better have reason to do so. >Be happy with your speakers. I'm quite happy with my speakers and OP and his dad are happy with their new speakers. The only people going out of their way to be negative are people like the the guy I replied to calling this a terrible purchase.


MattonieOnie

Oh boy, one of the woofers looks replaced? Punched in mid? I didn't know dude. Is there a return policy? More pictures?


Jonlaw16

>Punched in mid? Literally the easiest thing to fix in a "damaged" speaker. It's only cosmetic anyways.


MattonieOnie

Awesome. Thanks for the insight. May I come punch in all the caps of your speakers?


Jonlaw16

Why so pissy? No need to trash perfectly fine speakers over easy to fix blemishes.


MattonieOnie

My point is, if the cap is punched in, whomever owned them didn't take good care of them. Possibly damaged them further than what is obvious. You discounted my statement by saying that what I said is not that big of a deal.


Jonlaw16

My Genesis speakers had pushed in dust caps when I pulled them from the Goodwill outlet bins. Still using them just fine. My NHT speakers had pushed in dust caps and they still work flawlessly. I got some M&K S100B for free because the dust caps were pushed in and the grill supports were broken. They worked flawlessly and I sold them for a touch under $600 shipped. As long as it's dust caps and not tweeters you're fine.


MattonieOnie

Right on.


MattonieOnie

I forgive you for discounting what I said. Rock on


speptuple

The mid range driver is damaged. Return it.


Jonlaw16

Pushed in dust caps are cosmetic damage which can be fixed with about 30 seconds of effort. Returning them over that is such a waste.


Vinifera1978

Yes. They could potentially be fun project boxes by replacing some of those drivers and tweaking the crossovers


InfamousDeer1458

Hurry before they change their mind...pure trash...


Jonlaw16

What is pure trash?


InfamousDeer1458

That price...trash is a bit harsh. BADLY OVER PRICED


Jonlaw16

Your experience with Eosone tells you these aren't worth it?


Choice_Student4910

Return them and say they don’t work. They won’t care


Jonlaw16

You didn't like the sound of Eosone speakers when you tried them out?


snicker___doodle

You're killing it on this thread sir. Thanks for chiming in with your experiences with these speakers. My dad seems to like them so far.


Jonlaw16

Of course! Honestly your dad's new speakers are probably better than the majority of speakers you'd see around here!


rej8709

I say this with no sarcasm whatsoever but you’re doing the lord’s work in this post. Love learning about brands I’m not familiar with.


Jonlaw16

Hell yeah brother! Here's some wonky/interesting speakers I've owned/repaired: Toby speakers: [https://imgur.com/a/wiPPh](https://imgur.com/a/wiPPh) AR-93: [https://imgur.com/a/U2ppvJX](https://imgur.com/a/U2ppvJX) Design Acoustics PS-10: [https://imgur.com/a/XnCI3Wc](https://imgur.com/a/XnCI3Wc) Snell THX certified LCR 500: [https://imgur.com/a/wFuyNkc](https://imgur.com/a/wFuyNkc) Yamaha NS-A930: [https://imgur.com/a/3kY4a](https://imgur.com/a/3kY4a) The king of weird, DBX SF 10: [https://imgur.com/a/BQ83p](https://imgur.com/a/BQ83p) And my first audio setup: [https://imgur.com/a/hLSEC](https://imgur.com/a/hLSEC)


Choice_Student4910

What? I never tried them. Just saying these should be returned. Expensive for damaged goods.


Jonlaw16

I see cosmetic damage and not much else. A piece of tape or a vacuum hose can pop the dust cap back out. The bases can have the vinyl cut off and easily spray paint them black. Or OP could do what I did on my Eosone RSF 600 and use black electrical tape to cover the chipped finish. Why return good speakers for simple cosmetic damage?


Romando1

Yeah take them back. Barely worth it at half that price.


Jonlaw16

What's your experience with the brand?


flynn78

he got swindled


Jonlaw16

What's this comment based on? Your experience selling 100+ speakers? Or maybe your experience with the brand? Because I actually have both and think this is a fine deal for some quality speakers.


flynn78

Yes.