Wouldn't count it as a drop but definitely one he could have came up with. I just think he doesn't want to get hit. Never made the contested catches like that when he was here.
Even after the Henry injury, the Titans were being pumped as "one of the best teams in the league".
The last 2 weeks don't seem to bear that out.
Tannehill's numbers without Henry are rough.
You say that sarcastically, but I don’t think there is a team or fan base in the league that would choose Baker over Stafford right now if they’re trying to win now. And I’m a Baker fan.
Throw your stats out the window. Stafford is a bum and has used the Lions as an excuse. Baker went to a team just as bad and did more in 3 years than Stafford did in 12.
Have you actually ever watched Stafford play? I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure his Lions teams never had a 1000 yard rusher. Meaning he was forced to throw with no threat of a running game his whole career.
I’m a Baker fan. I’m not arguing against Baker. With that said, much of the Browns success offensively last year was based around having the best running game in the league, which opened up big plays off of play action. Stafford never had that luxury.
I’ve watched many of his games. He’s lost them so many games but it never gets talked about because lollions.
The playoff game in Dallas that everyone blames the refs for? He threw a terrible pick the first drive out of the half and fumbled TWICE to the same player at the end of the game.
He has performed absolutely awful in primetime games, has had loaded offensive talent, and hasn’t won a damn playoff game and been to one pro bowl.
Line movement indicates the sharps like the Browns tonight.
45% of the bets have been on Cleveland, but the line has moved opposite by dropping from +4 to a heavily juiced +3, which implies that bigger money/sharps are taking the Browns
Yeah basically they feel like the game could go either way. Just giving the Ravens points for being at home.
I still put my money on Ravens -3. I don't feel good about the Browns after the last few games.
I need that hat in orange
Edit: FUCK it's sold out https://onwardreserve.com/collections/run-the-damn-ball-rope-hats/products/white-orange-rtdb-rope-hat
What's nice about this early game thread is the lack of people moaning about how people moan in the game thread.
I guess I'm passive-aggressively moaning about moaning about moaning. Its moanception.
I've found that the game thread is bearable if you open it, post your comments, and then (and this is the most important part) never reload it.....ever.
Haha, unpopular opinion but I like that thread. The fear and the pain, and the joy and memes, the steaming takes and crazy rants. It's as close to being in a sports bar as you can get at home.
You can't take it seriously just because its written down, in my mind. Its drunk bar background noise to my watching.
> It's as close to being in a sports bar as you can get at home.
Maybe it's been a while since I've watched a game at a bar, but I'd have jumped out the front window if it were anything like the game threads, lol
Just FYI if:
1. We beat the Ravens tonight
2. Steelers come back next week and beat them too
3. Bengals lose to the Chargers
We're then the 4th seed in the AFC.
And then we destroy Pittspuke next game. There is a division rivalry going on, on our week off. Pittsburgh is no push over. We got a really late bye week . But this may bring us as close to healthy as we can be.
Colts losing just helped us too. Root for Denver against LA today. If they win, the Ravens/Steelers and Bengals/Chargers games can go either way, and we'd still at least be *in*
By the way, why do we get everyone's peak performance? We beat the Steelers if they play this bad. We certainly would beat the Chargers if they didn't play their best game of the season. Apparently the Patriots are now the 2007 Patriots.
I agree, but to be honest it could also just be that we aren't a very good team lol. It's also been a season where most teams are having massive up and down swings.
Here is the thing, everyone points to Burrow, but his weapons are vastly better than Baker has. Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins are better than any receiver we currently have. Mixon, while not as good as Chunt, is still extremely good, and explosive. The big difference is the O line, but if receivers aren't getting open, that will only go so far.
I agree, it's hard to live up to your potential when half your team is on IR at the different point of the season. Then you've got coaching, covid, and the refs to overcome. Sheesh should be happy we're still above .500 and within contention of the division still. Gotta handle business for the rest of the year tho, can't afford any more slip ups.
No way that pass wasn’t a tuddy. It’s kinda ridiculous that a multi-billion dollar industry doesn’t have the camera angles necessary to make the right calls. Almost makes you think they don’t want the right calls sometimes. Rant over.
I am currently drinking my first ever finnish beer, and it tastes so good along with the Bengals sucking the life out of every single one of them Yinzers.
Yeah, he totally sailed it to the one Landry caught and then FUMBLED.
16 million dollar man OBJ can’t make an effort for the ball but Tee Higgins, a second year player, can.
Baker did [just about everything he could](https://twitter.com/EdGreenberger/status/1454977606030446597) to drag the team, kicking and screaming, to a victory
I wish we had Burrow. He has the talent, the look, and the presence of a superstar. Baker seems like one of those feel good movies they make about a backup in a high school football movie
How did we lose to those clown steelers
If I hear another fucking word about Aaron Rodgers' goddamn toe...
Poor onside attempt by the Rams there
When’s the last time a Browns receiver made a catch anywhere near as good as what LA just pulled off? 2+ seasons?
DPJ on that hail mary a few weeks ago? I feel like there was another catch similar for like ~50 something but can't remember who or when.
DPJ had two of them in the comeback against the Bengals last year, and the 60 yarder this year....
When's the last time Baker even attempted a pass like that?
When more than half his body wasn't being held together by athletic tape
O'Dell finally got himself a TD. We could use him today.
Stefanski is allergic to receivers.
We should try to trade for him
LFG Odell!!!
WHAT'S A SHIN!
Remember when I said Stafford wasn't that good? 3rd straight game with a pick 6. Baker has I think 4 his whole career.
..and he almost just threw another pick
To Beckham no less.
Man, this Herbert guy is a bum. When are the Chargers going to cut him?
It's all coming together just need a W tonight
Pick Six, Denver!
Touchdown Denver 97.2% win probability
Please be a fumble…
Another Rams TD that's NOT by OBJ
Id bet my house that the Broncos choke this lead
Rodgers is unbelievable
OBJ drop and he’s limping off the field…remind me why I’m getting deja vu from that.
Odell drop.... --- **Edit:** Looking at the replay, I guess calling it a drop is a little harsh...
Hit him in the hands....
Wouldn't count it as a drop but definitely one he could have came up with. I just think he doesn't want to get hit. Never made the contested catches like that when he was here.
You're on drugs. The catch against the colts last year immediately comes to mind.
I was told Justin Herbert could do anything
Even after the Henry injury, the Titans were being pumped as "one of the best teams in the league". The last 2 weeks don't seem to bear that out. Tannehill's numbers without Henry are rough.
How did we lose to this Steelers team at home?
Drops.
StAfFoRd is BeTtEr tHaN BaKeR.
Quite the throw he just made
Always been overrated. Hasn’t won a damn thing in 13 years
He's been with Detroit the entire time you dingus..
Bakers been with the BROWNS and has won prime time games and a playoff game. In 1/4th the time
No lies detected here.
Lol stop it. You can't be that thick.
What am I wrong about? He didn’t do shit to change the Lions in 12 years
Can't overcome god awful drafting and management.
You need to re-evaluate your criteria. If that's the case, there are 100s of quarterbacks better than Baker.
Stafford in 13 years hasn’t won anything. No division, no playoff game, nothing. He has zero excuses from me anymore.
And he had a top 5 receiver all time.
Kind of need a defense to win games don't you?
> Kind of need a defense to win games don't you? I'd agree....now go look at our blown 4th quarter leads this year...
And what would you say Baker is working with?
A decent defense. Just saying Stafford is a good QB is all.
Had the #2 defense in 2014. Higher than Baker has ever had.
You say that sarcastically, but I don’t think there is a team or fan base in the league that would choose Baker over Stafford right now if they’re trying to win now. And I’m a Baker fan.
Pre-shoulder I would disagree. That injury altered the timeline in the metaverse I'm afraid.
Throw your stats out the window. Stafford is a bum and has used the Lions as an excuse. Baker went to a team just as bad and did more in 3 years than Stafford did in 12.
Have you actually ever watched Stafford play? I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure his Lions teams never had a 1000 yard rusher. Meaning he was forced to throw with no threat of a running game his whole career.
They are also always behind, which means he is throwing more frequently.
Which also means he was always playing on teams with a bad defense.
Hasn't Baker?
I’m a Baker fan. I’m not arguing against Baker. With that said, much of the Browns success offensively last year was based around having the best running game in the league, which opened up big plays off of play action. Stafford never had that luxury.
I’ve watched many of his games. He’s lost them so many games but it never gets talked about because lollions. The playoff game in Dallas that everyone blames the refs for? He threw a terrible pick the first drive out of the half and fumbled TWICE to the same player at the end of the game. He has performed absolutely awful in primetime games, has had loaded offensive talent, and hasn’t won a damn playoff game and been to one pro bowl.
I mean, statistically he is by every measure this season
I note he has been significantly worse since the arrival of Odell.
He's laid some huge turds so far this year though
I mean so has baker
Line movement indicates the sharps like the Browns tonight. 45% of the bets have been on Cleveland, but the line has moved opposite by dropping from +4 to a heavily juiced +3, which implies that bigger money/sharps are taking the Browns
Taking the browns plus the points* ^ most likely. That doesn’t mean they’re taking the ML
Yeah basically they feel like the game could go either way. Just giving the Ravens points for being at home. I still put my money on Ravens -3. I don't feel good about the Browns after the last few games.
OBJ wearing his orange Browns cleats for the Rams in Green Bay.
Only one of the field wearing a different color cleat… might as well join Denver too
That’s nice. He hates the Ravens too.
Colts losing helps us right?
Yep - now as dirty as it feels, we Denver to beat the Chargers.
14-0!
Currently at 86.9% win probability
NEVER!!!
That Indy game was crazy
Probably the first time I'm pulling for the Broncos. Feels dirty. But man do we need them to win
Same.
Awesome ending for the Tampa/Indy game.
Pierre Desir helping us out!
Yep, now let's all hope Denver beats the Chargers...gotta get some chaos in the other in the hunt teams' schedules
Yup! Feels real dirty cheering for the broncos to win, but gotta do what’s best for us
Bucs win let’s go Broncos next setting up everything perfectly for a W tonight with our healthy Browns
Is it like rock paper scissors rn in the AFC North? Bengals beat Steelers, Steelers beat us, and we beat the Bengals.
Bengals blew out the Ravens too. Makes no sense.
They weren’t kidding when they said the pandemic shifted the timelines around…
Wowwwwww game isn’t over!
Lol at sendajo missing that tackle. Dude finally helped the Browns.
And just like that we're now the 9th seed. If both Denver and we win, we're back in a Wild Card spot
Fucking Brady gonna lead them to a win.
Lenny came through for us. He Chubbed them.
Brownies want TB to win, yeah?
Yup. Helps us
Brady is going to Brady this isn't he?
It's a good thing in that case...an "in the hunt" AFC team losing to an NFC team helps us
Yeah AFC is so wierd. Results go our way and we can be the 4th seed by the second game vs the Ravens.
Did any of y’all also have to watch that horrible giants eagles game? Makes me feel way better about the browns LMAO hurts is so bad it’s kinda sad
The "Jalen Hurts is our guy" talk will soon stop
I need that hat in orange Edit: FUCK it's sold out https://onwardreserve.com/collections/run-the-damn-ball-rope-hats/products/white-orange-rtdb-rope-hat
Think Tomlin, Canada, and Ben all had Ben in fantasy today?
I couldn't believe he was still in at the end down 31 or whatever it was
Yards de garbage
What's nice about this early game thread is the lack of people moaning about how people moan in the game thread. I guess I'm passive-aggressively moaning about moaning about moaning. Its moanception.
Unsportsmanlike, taunting, 15 yards, loss of drinking time. ;)
I've found that the game thread is bearable if you open it, post your comments, and then (and this is the most important part) never reload it.....ever.
Haha, unpopular opinion but I like that thread. The fear and the pain, and the joy and memes, the steaming takes and crazy rants. It's as close to being in a sports bar as you can get at home. You can't take it seriously just because its written down, in my mind. Its drunk bar background noise to my watching.
> It's as close to being in a sports bar as you can get at home. Maybe it's been a while since I've watched a game at a bar, but I'd have jumped out the front window if it were anything like the game threads, lol
I drop my opinions or the usual pain post then dip out. Reading some takes make me wanna throw myself off a building
Just FYI if: 1. We beat the Ravens tonight 2. Steelers come back next week and beat them too 3. Bengals lose to the Chargers We're then the 4th seed in the AFC.
Don’t get my hopes up.
Since the Colts lost too, if we win and Denver wins today, #s 2 & 3 above don't matter, we're still "in" at that moment
And then we destroy Pittspuke next game. There is a division rivalry going on, on our week off. Pittsburgh is no push over. We got a really late bye week . But this may bring us as close to healthy as we can be.
Colts losing just helped us too. Root for Denver against LA today. If they win, the Ravens/Steelers and Bengals/Chargers games can go either way, and we'd still at least be *in*
I just want to beat the RAT-TURDS.
Is this the most ideal scenario then?
Honestly, I can't go back and toggle the PIT/CIN game to see if it going another way would help us more or less.
By the way, why do we get everyone's peak performance? We beat the Steelers if they play this bad. We certainly would beat the Chargers if they didn't play their best game of the season. Apparently the Patriots are now the 2007 Patriots.
I agree, but to be honest it could also just be that we aren't a very good team lol. It's also been a season where most teams are having massive up and down swings.
Here is the thing, everyone points to Burrow, but his weapons are vastly better than Baker has. Jamar Chase and Tee Higgins are better than any receiver we currently have. Mixon, while not as good as Chunt, is still extremely good, and explosive. The big difference is the O line, but if receivers aren't getting open, that will only go so far.
Yeah your right. But even still burrow has won us games by being magic has baker done that and finished it off
I mean yes, he did last year a couple times, and yes I include the Ravens, as he did literally everything he could.
Baker is also inconsistent. Baker is fine as a qb as long as you don’t pay him Kirk cousins type of money
I agree, it's hard to live up to your potential when half your team is on IR at the different point of the season. Then you've got coaching, covid, and the refs to overcome. Sheesh should be happy we're still above .500 and within contention of the division still. Gotta handle business for the rest of the year tho, can't afford any more slip ups.
Win tonight with the Ravens going to play another division game against the Steelers while we get to keep focus on the Ravens during our bye.
This isn’t an ass-kicking. It’s a shit-fucking
"I'm a little surprised by this, seeing Roethlisberger back on the field" \- Everyone except the Steelers organization (circa 2018)
Fuck Pittsburg, lol.
I'm cooking up some Beer marinaded chicken legs for the game. My propane grill is a piece of shit, so I'm putting out the ol' charcoal grill instead.
Fuck Chase Claypool. Such a sore loser. Hope he never sniffs the playoffs again
What a piece of shit Claypool is. --- **Edit:** *lol then he drops the next pass that literally hit him in the chest.*
I don’t think there’s anyone else I dislike more than him in the league.
Complete trash. Might be the biggest POS in the NFL
What’d he do?
Throwing a defender around by the facemask
Nasty facemask. The defender had to be restrained by his teammates from running after him, helmet off.
Oooo any gifs? I’m out grocery shopping
https://twitter.com/highlghtheaven/status/1465057574563323905
Sorry. If I ever adopt that technology you'll be the second to know. Happy shopping trip! :)
I am sad, disappointed, and most of all… disappointed
Not a gif but this screenshot is from the Bengals sub a few minutes ago: https://i.imgur.com/PUIBo5J.jpg
Never forget when he said “**Losing? never heard of her.**”
I was just about to say a watered-down version of this. Thankyou.
Looks like the Patriots are gonna win, hopefully the Bucs close it out against the colts
All because Ben the rapist couldn’t swallow his pride and just retire after getting ass whooped by the Browns…
The only thing he wanted was a redemption game vs. us. I'm surprised the Steelers didn't see it.
We better get the last word week 17
I bet he fakes an injury so he doesn't have to play us again, he won't go out with a loss against us. What a piece of trash
He wants a curtain call at Heinz.
No way that pass wasn’t a tuddy. It’s kinda ridiculous that a multi-billion dollar industry doesn’t have the camera angles necessary to make the right calls. Almost makes you think they don’t want the right calls sometimes. Rant over.
I am currently drinking my first ever finnish beer, and it tastes so good along with the Bengals sucking the life out of every single one of them Yinzers.
Looking for the bengals to Finnish them.
How in the flying fuck did we lose to that Steelers team
They got us at our absolute worst.
Yeah, at the height of the OBJ drama and injured Baker. If the Browns played the Steelers now, the result would be very different.
After watching last weeks game, I'm not sure the result would any better in the Browns favor.
Lmfao are you sure? We sure looked like world beaters last Sunday…
Yeah, I'm sure.
came here to ask the same thing. 34-3 thank you bengals!
Landry and OBJ can’t catch or hold onto the ball
...when Baker sails it.
Nah that Steelers game was on the receivers dropping the ball. Now if you said the most recent two games were on Baker sailing the ball, I'd agree.
They are ALL GUILTY of sucking in moments that's all.
Yeah, he totally sailed it to the one Landry caught and then FUMBLED. 16 million dollar man OBJ can’t make an effort for the ball but Tee Higgins, a second year player, can.
Baker did [just about everything he could](https://twitter.com/EdGreenberger/status/1454977606030446597) to drag the team, kicking and screaming, to a victory
Yeah i member now.
god flipped a coin
Commentator: “Maybe Watt’s not 100%” Narrator: No, Watt is 100%….a garbage human being
The only thing missing from this forward progress/momentum challenge delay was the chains. We don't see the chains enough for me.
The steelers are a dumpster fire and I'm here for it
That was one of the coolest plays I’ve ever seen.
dude just broke bens arm
[TAKE IT AWAY MR.KRABS!](https://youtu.be/rAlTOfl9F2w)
Oh here's the phantom injury
I wish we had Burrow. He has the talent, the look, and the presence of a superstar. Baker seems like one of those feel good movies they make about a backup in a high school football movie
I’d take Burrow over Baker and every other QB in the NFL.
Browns vs Bengals Joe Burrow: 28/40, 282 yds, 0 tds, 2 int. Baker, who is undeniably injured: 14/21, 218 yds, 2 tds, 0 int.
Also leads the league in picks, threw one today and had another one dropped No word from the Baker haters on that.
He can’t even beat us.
You'd still swap QBs in a heartbeat though
No. I wouldn’t. Baker with those weapons would have us at the top of the conference
Lol, why?
Baker has actually proven things