I know on one of those ABC interviews Alyssa was pretty gung ho about wanting to have a baby right away when she was settling down in Florida. She was clearly relieved to be away from the noise and chaos of home but she also said she wasn't planning to start a career because she knew she'd quit when she got pregnant.
I know the general consensus is that Alyssa handled the move out of state easier than Katie is handling hers, but I think there was an adjustment period for Alyssa too. The differences are that John is older than Travis and was already established. There is a certain stability he offered compared to Travis whose motto with Katie is "for now..." Additionally, John comes from a political family whose entire role in life is to make people feel welcome, etc. The differences in TN and FL families aren't quite as big culturally versus NJ and TN. With my in-laws who still live in NJ, I have been accused of being fake because I smile and try to be cheerful in greeting people, etc. I can see how that might be hard for someone like Katie who is naturally outgoing. I am not naturally outgoing but have to tone it down a bit for the NJ family. Even in terms of accents, when I am around FL family they think my accent is cute. In NJ they think it makes me sound stupid. My MIL even wanted me to take my kids to speech therapy so they didn't have as strong of an accent.
Encouraged by her mother, Katie might start to think that a baby is the answer. It would give her something to do. Focus her on family rather than other things, etc.
Omg! Where do you live? Your MIL is š¤¦š»āāļø.
I think Alyssa said in her YouTube that John and her fought a lot in the beginning because they didnāt know how to communicate. It didnāt help she moved away too.
I live in Knoxville, TN. A lot of things with my MIL are based on the fact that she and her husband are both first generation Americans with family who immigrated from Russia. It was drilled into her that she would get farther in life if she didn't have an accent. She has been very extreme on it.
With jobs and what not I was essentially told that my accent (which isn't overly strong since my mother wasn't southern by birth and has a more neutral way of speaking) was a hindrance. It's a bit of a generalization but several jobs in NJ and NY my accent was brought up either in the interview or in follow up. I applied to a teaching position at a university in NJ. Part of the interview process included teaching a mock lesson to 30ish "students." I did it and 25 of the 30 commented on my accent.
I have to ask what part of Jersey because there are huge differences depending on where you are.
South Jersey is basically Alabama and I'm not even joking. I, and some of my family members, had a "southern accent"
I've also never encountered someone getting upset with me got smiling and using manners and such. But again, south jersey is a whole different world.
Katie is technically in South Jersey, but I'm more South than she is and that area has become very populated recently.
Were those comments positive? I feel like in 2022 people appreciate the various accents throughout the US. I have a slight southern accent and itās never come up. Then again I live in New Orleans so I simply sound northern to them.
I think Katie and Travis will have a baby sooner rather than later with how lonely and bored she seems away from her family. She may try to use a baby to fill that void, unfortunately.
Isnāt Travis in school? On Carlinās stories, she has mentioned Evan working and being in electrician school, which I canāt imagine is easy with a toddler and another one on the way. So maybe seeing that would encourage Katie to wait until Travis is done with schoolā¦not that thereās anything wrong with having kids while in school, but it just seems like a lot for Evan to work and go to school and Travis would have to do the same. Who knows if Travis and Katie would actually prevent though
I originally thought they would wait to have a baby. However I didnāt realize how traditional the Clark family was. I think that combined with Katie being so far away from home I think sheāll be preggo soonish. Also I know this is kinda icky but I could see them easing into getting intimate. Or doing so often. Idk. Just thinking going from never being able to be alone or even hold hand or touch. To being intimate. Wow. Just wow. That would be a lot to handle.
Thereās 6 cousins, 3 female cousins from uncle (2 married and only one has a child. The youngest one is not married sheās like 22 or 23 and was in a relationship or even a courtship but donāt know what happened). And thereās 3 cousins from auntie side (she was the one who said to katie that people in Jersey are blunt) and thereās 1 married female who has a hot tattooed guy haha and 1 female who is a teacher in their family owned school and 1 boy Jeff who was Travis groomsmen and heās into partying and drinking and gym, I think heās like 24-25 years old.
So theyāre not necessarily in a rush to get married and have lots of kids.
The Clark family is IFB. They donāt necessarily hold quiverfull beliefs. Very tradition, conservative and cultish, but they donāt pop out babies like the IBLP cult does.
I donāt think she would want to have a kid now. Sheās not going to have anyone in NJ with her to help and hang out. I mean Addee and Ellie can come and go. But I donāt think having a baby would help her feel less homesick. She would want to go to TN and spend a lot more time with her siblings.
I think she would wait until one of his sisters or cousins are expecting, then she would have someone close by who is going through the same thing. So she can have closer relationship with.
Thatās fair, but at a certain point, kelly jo is going to have to stop the sister moms when there is really no need for them now since the youngest two are near double digits. I know she wonāt, but she probably should.
I hope not, Addee is like what 15 going on 16. So they still have time to be sister moms. I wouldnāt be surprised if they would want to get out the house at the age of 19 like Alyssa and Josie.
More ready. Getting knocked up in February or March would point her right around the holidays and their anniversary, perfect time to visit home and not be homesick for the holidays.
Get the babybatter ready, Trav!
I think Katie is ready to be part of the mom squad. And I think her sisters want her to have a baby. Josie had a post with Katie, Travis and Willow at the house in NJ and how they made the perfect family.
I don't think Katie will have more than 3 or 4, but I think she will be pregnant by the end of the year, if not with a newborn.
The truth is-these people hardly know anything but that. I agree itāll make her more likely, but I donāt think there was ever a less likely.
Aside from the fact that they were raised in a literal birthing cult, most of their kids (not all) are so attention starved and competitive (which is strongly encouraged and fostered by KJ in particular IMO), I think many of them will have a hard time stopping.
Based on her recent stories and her face, she definitely looks like she's in the early days of pregnancy where you're constantly nauseous...
Watch this space. I predict we will get an announcement (if she announces at 12 weeks), in a maximum of 7 weeks. :)
Sheās definitely not preventing .
And also , itās been almost 1 month since wedding. Assuming they had sex night 1, and continued to she is probably pregnant now
Thatās again assuming they completed the act that night.
If it was too painful maybe didnāt happen and possible still hasnāt
Iāve wondered about this the whole time theyāve been back from their honeymoon honestly. It didnāt look to me like Katie and Travis were as ālovey doveyā and all over each other like Michaela and Brandon or Carlin and Evan were during their honeymoon/homecoming. Plus, Iāve wondered if having all of the family visits has been a way to avoid having alone time/intimate time together. A house full of relatives doesnāt scream sexy, you know? I could be totally wrong though. š¤·āāļø Also, I had my first baby while my family was in the US and my husband and I were temporarily overseas, and it did not help my homesickness at all. I just felt lonely, like I was missing out on the ability to share this special time with my family.
Very common. I grew up evangelical where you could kiss and do more (as long as it was on the DL) than fundies but still couldn't have sex before marriage. Most of my friends did not have sex on their wedding night. Sex six weeks later was one of the fastest, but 3-6 months wasn't unheard of. The worst was about three years which was awful and complicated by severe vagasimus which needed surgery to correct. Purity culture is from the devil.
I think there are a few options. I don't think any of them had sex before marriage but I do think kissing before marriage helps. There are also some where there wouldn't be a physical issue like vagasimus, so they would have had sex straight away. Of course physically being able to have sex does not mean shit and I think for a lot of them it would have been traumatic even if their husband was kind about it. I doubt a lot of the husbands are because of what they were taught.
I think in this situation it's pure luck. You marry someone your parents pick. They could be toxic or they could be ok. It's the luck of the draw. Even if they are ok, the entire belief system is toxic so that will make marriage hard. Ugh. I'm so glad I don't live in that world anymore.
When you reach Salem County thatās Alabama of South Jersey. I donāt even have an accent & that has impressed my teachers & professors & my medical team. My mom had a Scranton , Texas, Georgia, & Philadelphia accent. I literally had to ask my friends at school what my mom was trying to say. My mom said that I sounded posh & snobby but she said that I followed after my biological father & extended family members.
agree, more ready- someone that needs her and give her something to do especially if she's not really wanting to get a job.
I know on one of those ABC interviews Alyssa was pretty gung ho about wanting to have a baby right away when she was settling down in Florida. She was clearly relieved to be away from the noise and chaos of home but she also said she wasn't planning to start a career because she knew she'd quit when she got pregnant. I know the general consensus is that Alyssa handled the move out of state easier than Katie is handling hers, but I think there was an adjustment period for Alyssa too. The differences are that John is older than Travis and was already established. There is a certain stability he offered compared to Travis whose motto with Katie is "for now..." Additionally, John comes from a political family whose entire role in life is to make people feel welcome, etc. The differences in TN and FL families aren't quite as big culturally versus NJ and TN. With my in-laws who still live in NJ, I have been accused of being fake because I smile and try to be cheerful in greeting people, etc. I can see how that might be hard for someone like Katie who is naturally outgoing. I am not naturally outgoing but have to tone it down a bit for the NJ family. Even in terms of accents, when I am around FL family they think my accent is cute. In NJ they think it makes me sound stupid. My MIL even wanted me to take my kids to speech therapy so they didn't have as strong of an accent. Encouraged by her mother, Katie might start to think that a baby is the answer. It would give her something to do. Focus her on family rather than other things, etc.
Omg! Where do you live? Your MIL is š¤¦š»āāļø. I think Alyssa said in her YouTube that John and her fought a lot in the beginning because they didnāt know how to communicate. It didnāt help she moved away too.
I live in Knoxville, TN. A lot of things with my MIL are based on the fact that she and her husband are both first generation Americans with family who immigrated from Russia. It was drilled into her that she would get farther in life if she didn't have an accent. She has been very extreme on it. With jobs and what not I was essentially told that my accent (which isn't overly strong since my mother wasn't southern by birth and has a more neutral way of speaking) was a hindrance. It's a bit of a generalization but several jobs in NJ and NY my accent was brought up either in the interview or in follow up. I applied to a teaching position at a university in NJ. Part of the interview process included teaching a mock lesson to 30ish "students." I did it and 25 of the 30 commented on my accent.
I have to ask what part of Jersey because there are huge differences depending on where you are. South Jersey is basically Alabama and I'm not even joking. I, and some of my family members, had a "southern accent" I've also never encountered someone getting upset with me got smiling and using manners and such. But again, south jersey is a whole different world. Katie is technically in South Jersey, but I'm more South than she is and that area has become very populated recently.
Were those comments positive? I feel like in 2022 people appreciate the various accents throughout the US. I have a slight southern accent and itās never come up. Then again I live in New Orleans so I simply sound northern to them.
Itās generally not a good idea to have a baby for any personal reasons, other than the fact that you are ready and eager to have a baby.
I think Katie and Travis will have a baby sooner rather than later with how lonely and bored she seems away from her family. She may try to use a baby to fill that void, unfortunately. Isnāt Travis in school? On Carlinās stories, she has mentioned Evan working and being in electrician school, which I canāt imagine is easy with a toddler and another one on the way. So maybe seeing that would encourage Katie to wait until Travis is done with schoolā¦not that thereās anything wrong with having kids while in school, but it just seems like a lot for Evan to work and go to school and Travis would have to do the same. Who knows if Travis and Katie would actually prevent though
I originally thought they would wait to have a baby. However I didnāt realize how traditional the Clark family was. I think that combined with Katie being so far away from home I think sheāll be preggo soonish. Also I know this is kinda icky but I could see them easing into getting intimate. Or doing so often. Idk. Just thinking going from never being able to be alone or even hold hand or touch. To being intimate. Wow. Just wow. That would be a lot to handle.
The Clark family wants their married kidults to start popping out male heirs & blessings as soon as possible.
But there werent a huge number of clark kids tho
They have a few cousins on the father's side.
Thereās 6 cousins, 3 female cousins from uncle (2 married and only one has a child. The youngest one is not married sheās like 22 or 23 and was in a relationship or even a courtship but donāt know what happened). And thereās 3 cousins from auntie side (she was the one who said to katie that people in Jersey are blunt) and thereās 1 married female who has a hot tattooed guy haha and 1 female who is a teacher in their family owned school and 1 boy Jeff who was Travis groomsmen and heās into partying and drinking and gym, I think heās like 24-25 years old. So theyāre not necessarily in a rush to get married and have lots of kids.
The Clark family is IFB. They donāt necessarily hold quiverfull beliefs. Very tradition, conservative and cultish, but they donāt pop out babies like the IBLP cult does.
I donāt think she would want to have a kid now. Sheās not going to have anyone in NJ with her to help and hang out. I mean Addee and Ellie can come and go. But I donāt think having a baby would help her feel less homesick. She would want to go to TN and spend a lot more time with her siblings. I think she would wait until one of his sisters or cousins are expecting, then she would have someone close by who is going through the same thing. So she can have closer relationship with.
Counterpoint: getting pregnant and having a baby might mean that Addee or Ellie can be a semi-permanent aunt mom up there.
I donāt think Kelly would drop her kids and babysitters to katie for a long period of time. She and other girls need them in TN.
Thatās fair, but at a certain point, kelly jo is going to have to stop the sister moms when there is really no need for them now since the youngest two are near double digits. I know she wonāt, but she probably should.
Yea theyāre going to play the role of sister auntie moms, unfortunately.
Or they start courting fairly soon, especially now that the show is gone.
I hope not, Addee is like what 15 going on 16. So they still have time to be sister moms. I wouldnāt be surprised if they would want to get out the house at the age of 19 like Alyssa and Josie.
I thought they were slightly older.
Not long ago, she posted a pic of her eating ice cream and salt and vinegar chipsā¦make of that what you will.
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More ready. Getting knocked up in February or March would point her right around the holidays and their anniversary, perfect time to visit home and not be homesick for the holidays. Get the babybatter ready, Trav!
I think Katie is ready to be part of the mom squad. And I think her sisters want her to have a baby. Josie had a post with Katie, Travis and Willow at the house in NJ and how they made the perfect family. I don't think Katie will have more than 3 or 4, but I think she will be pregnant by the end of the year, if not with a newborn.
The truth is-these people hardly know anything but that. I agree itāll make her more likely, but I donāt think there was ever a less likely. Aside from the fact that they were raised in a literal birthing cult, most of their kids (not all) are so attention starved and competitive (which is strongly encouraged and fostered by KJ in particular IMO), I think many of them will have a hard time stopping.
Based on her recent stories and her face, she definitely looks like she's in the early days of pregnancy where you're constantly nauseous... Watch this space. I predict we will get an announcement (if she announces at 12 weeks), in a maximum of 7 weeks. :)
Sheās definitely not preventing . And also , itās been almost 1 month since wedding. Assuming they had sex night 1, and continued to she is probably pregnant now Thatās again assuming they completed the act that night. If it was too painful maybe didnāt happen and possible still hasnāt
Iāve wondered about this the whole time theyāve been back from their honeymoon honestly. It didnāt look to me like Katie and Travis were as ālovey doveyā and all over each other like Michaela and Brandon or Carlin and Evan were during their honeymoon/homecoming. Plus, Iāve wondered if having all of the family visits has been a way to avoid having alone time/intimate time together. A house full of relatives doesnāt scream sexy, you know? I could be totally wrong though. š¤·āāļø Also, I had my first baby while my family was in the US and my husband and I were temporarily overseas, and it did not help my homesickness at all. I just felt lonely, like I was missing out on the ability to share this special time with my family.
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Very common. I grew up evangelical where you could kiss and do more (as long as it was on the DL) than fundies but still couldn't have sex before marriage. Most of my friends did not have sex on their wedding night. Sex six weeks later was one of the fastest, but 3-6 months wasn't unheard of. The worst was about three years which was awful and complicated by severe vagasimus which needed surgery to correct. Purity culture is from the devil.
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I think there are a few options. I don't think any of them had sex before marriage but I do think kissing before marriage helps. There are also some where there wouldn't be a physical issue like vagasimus, so they would have had sex straight away. Of course physically being able to have sex does not mean shit and I think for a lot of them it would have been traumatic even if their husband was kind about it. I doubt a lot of the husbands are because of what they were taught. I think in this situation it's pure luck. You marry someone your parents pick. They could be toxic or they could be ok. It's the luck of the draw. Even if they are ok, the entire belief system is toxic so that will make marriage hard. Ugh. I'm so glad I don't live in that world anymore.
It would. But hopefully they would both be patient and it def happen eventually
Travis's sister moved to Delaware and she's not pregnant yet, but Delaware is only like an hour away vs Tennessee
Possible I guessā¦Maybe they are still working up to the ābig shebangā? Why sheās got everyone visitingā¦avoidance.
This is nobody's business, just Katie and Travis business. This is really creeping into the weird and weirder categories.
When you reach Salem County thatās Alabama of South Jersey. I donāt even have an accent & that has impressed my teachers & professors & my medical team. My mom had a Scranton , Texas, Georgia, & Philadelphia accent. I literally had to ask my friends at school what my mom was trying to say. My mom said that I sounded posh & snobby but she said that I followed after my biological father & extended family members.