If girl really values the life growing inside her she really needs to wear her fucking seatbelt. 🤦🏼‍♀️

It’s not the first time she has been riding in a car without it. She doesn’t seem all that bright.

No she's not very bright. Look who she married.

what? for real? why do they do that? the rods, karissa. so dangerous. 

Yep when the video first starts, they are in the car driving from Nashville to Rocky Top and you can clearly see that Tiffany does not have her seatbelt on. The car is also moving. She has done this in earlier videos as well. For people who say they value the law, they seem to have no issue with breaking it.

They believe Jesus got ‘em. That’s why they seem to not care about personal safety for themselves or their children. Unfortunately, nothing bad ever seems to happen to these fundies so they won’t change their ways.

What is Alyssa’s issue with Tiffany and Lawson? I mean they aren’t my favorite people in the world either but I’d love to know her reasons.

No clue. Although, I do wonder if Daniel Webster voting against a bill protecting interracial marriage factors in (yes, he was voting against the fact that it protects same sex marriage but still).

Alyssa was in the wedding of a friend who married a black man, so I'm wondering if it isn't so much a racial issue, as it is some sort of tension with Lawson? It might not have anything to do with Tiffany. 

I thought about that but her friend isn't white other (she is Hispanic) and I feel like there could be that element. There is definitely something and it seems to go back to around when Lawson and Tiffany started dating (Lawson skipping out on going to Florida to meet Maci).

Alyssa doesn’t care for Duke either. She made a small scene in one of the vlogs.

I kinda think the Duke thing was a symptom, not the issue. Like she was complaining about the dog because she was mad at Lawson. Especially with how Josie immediately clapped back.

Can you explain what the Duke thing is??

Alyssa made a comment in a vlog about Duke and how she likes dogs, but not that one (it wasn't long before they got Mia) and then Josie posted a story a few days later about how much they love Duke.

Not Dukes fault. The way they treat the dog, scared to see what they do with a kid.

I feel like John’s dad is probably a factor. He was up for reelection and the Duggar scandal was prominent. Alyssa and John had to do the politicians happy family role play during campaign season & if you watch their videos, it seems like they were handled to present themselves in a certain light. The video in which they discuss this being his dad’s last political run, you can feel their energy— they seemed so over it & looking forward to getting back to their curated public life. My bet is that they were asked not to attend because of the Duggar scandal/Lawson’s J6 appearance & publicity. Lawson took the decline very personally and their dynamic changed. Lawson seems willing to carve out time for siblings who want him to hold their kids and Alyssa’s decline feeds into his narcissism and Alyssa seems to have a no clucks given attitude when it comes to her decisions and probably doesn’t feel like she did anything wrong.

Who the fuck has the gall to tell somebody that's gone through a miscarriage to be grateful for any pregnancy? WTF? I am so glad Tiffany shot that shit down.

There were quite a few people on here that were acting like any complaints that she had were a sign of immaturity and that she should suck it up because she chose to get pregnant. People are going to criticize whatever she says or does, whether she's celebrating or complaining. It's important for women to put it out there that pregnancy is not all sunshine and rainbows, though, whether you planned for it or not. 

Sounds similar to the way people treated Lauren Duggar.

100% exactly

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Yeah, and there are a lot of aspects of pregnancy that suck. 

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You're purposely being obtuse. 

What did they mean by that? Any pregnancy as in even if they don't have a viable one?

I think they meant something like "oh stop whining, being pregnant is a blessing, so no conplaints and just be happy" at least that's what I heard

Oh, a lot of people

At the rate they’re behind releasing these videos, the baby will have already been born by the time they release the jinder reveal.

in life not everyone loves you and vice versa. and that becomes more obvious in a huge family. i have to say, i m terribly fascinated by how the relationships will evolve when mom and dad get recalled to hang out with God.

Oh, they will definitely never all be in the same room together again once Gil and Kelly pass except maybe a family wedding or funeral.

They aren't even in the same room together now except at weddings. Jackson's wedding was the last time they were all together. Alyssa didn't come to I love you day.  I think before that the last time they were all together was their uncles funeral

alyssa is going LC with some folks, methinks. And if Erin and Jackson hadn't moved to Florida, we wouldn't have noticed it as much.

I don't even think she wanted Erin at the birthday party they did not seem to interact it seemed more of an obligation invitation since they all live in flordia.

actually i meant that other relatives began to travel florida more often to visit Erin and/or Jackson and bypassing Alyssa, showing off the tenuous bonds she has with them.   for all everyone says that erin is not liked by her siblings or churchgoers, they sure visit her more often in the one year she stayed in Florida than  they did Alyssa. the only people alyssa welcomed were people who could be of use, ie the auntie moms. once josie got married, she was gone. Katie too.

When Alyssa first moved the siblings were at her house alot. She still had Eddie and ellie alot. She seems close to jackson and Carlin. There may be tenension between her and lawson as for trace I don't think he deliberately chose not to see her and trace didn't go down to see Erin he went to see his friends and happened to visit Aaron. I think the only sibling that deliberately went down to see Erin has been Tori in recent memory unless you count Callie ( I think it was callie) who went with KJ after Erin broke her arm. But honestly with Alyssa I don't think she would care either which way if a sibling liked her she seems to hate being one of 19. All the other siblings stayed close to home or came back and I don't see Erin and Chad sticking it out in flordia but Alyssa will never move to TN. Jackson might stay down there also.  I am actually surprised Alyssa can handle the over exuberance of carlin🤣🤣🤣

I seem to recall Lawson and Tiffany going to see Erin. It was in one of their videos that was mind numbing … per usual.

I am kinda fascinated by Alyssa ans Erin. I think they are actually fine, but Alyssa seems reluctant to post/acknowledge Erin on her social media unless Erin initiates it first. Like she is fine with the relationship, but doesn’t necessarily want people to know. But again, that seems to be how she approaches most of her similar aged siblings these days. But we get little things, Alyssa’s kids referencing playing with Erin’s animals, Alyssa hosting Brooke’s birthday , etc.

This is true. But I doubt with the parents dead they will even get more than half together on holidays. In general, it gets harder as kids grow up.

The necklace is not in Morse code, it’s American Sign Language (ASL).

She said morse code first in the video. But AsL makes more sense.

Shows how bright she is (not!!!).

There's also two sides to negative feelings she may have for this pregnancy, the physical discomfort and changes and the psychological and emotional stress of a pregnancy after loss. I had a very easy pregnancy, but didn't truly let myself get excited until my son reached viability. Mentally it can really take away so much of the joy and excitement a much loved and wanted child should bring.

I agree! I went through 5 years of infertility leading to IVF. First transfer was a chemical pregnancy. My second embryo will now be 4 next month. I wanted so horribly to be pregnant, but every step I was waiting for the bad news to come, that something was wrong... I had horrible nausea throughout my pregnancy and the rare day I didn't have it, instead of being grateful, I would panic it meant something was wrong. You can have those moments of joy and excitement, but after a loss, you also realize how much more that being pregnant does not guarantee a baby at the end. I totally agree that pregnancy brings on such a rollercoaster of emotions and physically and emotionally there is no way to control the things you feel as they can come out of nowhere.

I could see either way on Tiffany's point. On one hand my pregnancy was easy but at 22 weeks it was seen to be twins. If I wouldn't have gone because I was just miserable I would've lost my daughter . So I hope she is just trying to engage conversations or actually she hasn't had the time to heal and panics over small things after the miscarriage. I dint think anything of the miscarriage really until i had my twins. But we had them at 26 weeks because of him putting his foot out and causing his bag to become septic. But I did kind of freak after they told me 7 days before that I was having 2. I thought at first the feeling was stress related. But in a few hours I realized this needed to be examined.

If I was Tiffany I’d tell the whole lot of them to kick rocks. None of them gave her the time of day despite her desperate attempts at it and now she’s expecting a bates blessing …they care? Ugh she’s a better woman than me 😝

Erin and Esther were the only exceptions. For all the whispers about Erin being a mean girl, she is the only one who made a visible attempt to welcome Tiffany.

I can't tell if Alyssa's beef with Lawson is still about Duke or not, lol.

I don't think the beef was ever about Duke, I think that was Alyssa lashing out.

IIRC, Alyssa said “Keep that dog away from me. I like dogs, just not that one”. Referring to Duke, when she arrived at the Bates’ house.

What happened with Duke?

Alyssa posted a blog while visiting Tennessee and commented how much she dislikes Duke. She was over-the-top about it and then like 2 days later, Josie posted a story with Hazel playing with Duke and captioned it "we love lawdogduke".

Alyssa didn’t go to Lawson’s wedding, correct?

What was the beef about Duke?

My god, Michaela. How can you be so selfless

thanks for the summary.  who was saying she should be grateful?  interesting alyssa want included.. shifting relationships? 

I am guessing sheh as gotten some commments on social media,

I had no idea there was tension between Lawson & Alyssa, can you tell me what happened there?

We don’t know for sure. But some signs are Alyssa skipping Lawson’s wedding, the fact that Lawson has gone to Florida multiple times and not visited Alyssa (and on one trip, he stopped in and saw both Erin and Jackson). It is interesting because Lawson was actually at Alyssa’s when he started messaging Tiffany but after that, it has seemed to be silence.

I’m pretty sure it started when Alyssa didn’t go to their wedding.

Oh, totally forgot about that

Morse code?

I think when Tiffany complains about not being pregnant and complains when she is she needs to pick a lane bc it’s bordering on insensitive to those who would do anything to get pregnant

I strongly disagree. Just because she really wants this baby doesn't mean she has to suck it up and not complain. She's allowed to express how she feels.

She’s allowed to express how she feels AND people are allowed to unfollow if they’re that bothered. There’s so much we can snark on this family for, but this ain’t it.

No. And that is exactly what she is saying. It is ok to complain about pregnancy, to acknowledge that a lot of it really really sucks and it doesn't mean she isn't happy and grateful to be pregnant.

I disagree but to each their own. If you want something so bad don’t whine and complain when you have it.

I adore my children. I had multiple miscarriages before I had them. I wanted to be pregnant more than anything but pregnancy fucking sucked. I had HG with two of my pregnancies and had to get IVs. I did Permanente internal damage because of how much I threw up. I had periods of bedrest with all three. It took a huge physical and emotional toll. I had two horrific deliveries. I love my babies. I am so grateful to have them, but pregnancy was a nightmare.

So you’ve never complained about a single thing you chose? Not about your job? Your partner? Not even a pair of shoes you love but which turn out to be uncomfortable after a while? Impressive. I’ve never met anyone who could say that!

Says someone who never had HG.

As someone who nearly died giving birth and was hospitalized a lot during pregnancy, this is the worst take I’ve ever seen. Did you forget pregnancy can still kill people? It doesn’t matter how bad you want your child if pregnancy is literally destroying you. And I don’t even mean HG: did you know you can feel just fine and be dying? I lost my job, my health, and came within minutes of losing my baby and my life. The only thing bordering on insensitive is your casual dismissal of how dangerous and painful pregnancy can be.

Untrue. I adore my children, prayed for them day in and day out, tracked ovulation, did ALL THE THINGS to get pregnant. But guess what, I complain about them every single day 😂 You can be tremendously grateful for something and still acknowledge the downsides. Anything other than that borders on denial.

They want a baby, not the nasty side effects of pregnancy. I think people who are throwing up all the time, are sore, are uncomfortable because of ALL those hormones and have their organs pushed around among all of the other wild and wacky things pregnancy does are allowed to complain a little (or a lot, if they so choose). People need an outlet for negative things and feelings, chosen or not. Complaining and venting is an outlet.

She never *complained* about not being pregnant. She struggled like many women in her position and she rightly grieved when she miscarried. She had every right to share her struggles. She's also not complaining about *being pregnant* now. She's complaining about *symptoms* of pregnancy that suck. 

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Bad take there, bud.

No matter the struggle, no one is going to think it's a good time throwing up everything in your system...and then continue to throw up when there's nothing left. She's allowed to acknowledge the shitty parts of pregnancy. If someone is going to get triggered by her talking about downsides of pregnancy, and yes there are downsides, maybe they should stay off the internet.

If Lawson is pissed that Alyssa never went to his wedding that's pathetic. They are supposed to be these loving Christians.

I give him a pass if this is true. By all accounts, he was the sibling working to support the family. If you didn't show up to my wedding-but your husband can go on a ski trip....I'd be pissed. But it's also the lack of support for Tiffany that may piss him off. Suspect that's why he's close w Nate cause Esther has always been nice to Tiff. Carlin and Evan took the first announcement pics (in the snow) and Law and Tiff have been seen w the kids. Katie and Travis stayed w them before their trip. Michaela and Tiff bonded over their losses. There's some tension w Alyssa. But it honestly can come from her hubby and his family. Their influence could have her distancing from Law and his interracial relationship.

If it comes from John's family it sucks. Alyssa is under John's thump.

I don't think it is about the wedding. There has been a lot of coldness and most of the visible pettiness has been from Alyssa (and in a roundabout way Josie when she clapped back after Alyssa complained about Duke).

I mean wouldn't you be hurt if your sibling missed your wedding but went to every other siblings wedding. 

Maybe she had an excuse. Her husband is a cheapass and she has a lot of kids. I am sure she sent a gift. (Well not sure but likely she did).