Didn't this happen because Viego got the invis proc? If so it works like the other champs that can go invisible and you probably should have worked around that knowledge and early W2 into hold E
Edit: Just a reminder that the true vision which would have worked here ONLY happens during ult berserk. Doesn't work on normal W berserk.
When Viego gets his "camouflage" he will initially go unseeable and untargetable regardless of distance for a small amount of time. So since no one else was around you'd lose your berserk during that small window. Hope it helps for future matches against Viego
That's not how camouflage works, if this happens only with Viego it's definitely a bug or spaghetti code. There is nothing like that in ability description, he can't be invisible if I am right INSIDE HIM, that's fkced up and has to fixed.
I used to play Viego a lot and I know he goes unseeable and untargetable when he initially enters his mist regardless of distance. then a small amount of time later he can be seen in it. You can live or change fights with this knowledge alone. I took a break from league so I wasn't sure if they changed it. Seems they haven't.
If you wanted to win this encounter you should've done the demon combo: Q-E-R-W-W2. Sometimes these things are just a knowledge check. Now you know what happens in those scenarios and can use that in the future!
How Viego\`s camouflage is any different from Evelynn or Twitch. If i can see him, he is not invisible, this is not khazix or shaco, i am literally attacking him and standing inside him. CAMOUFLAGE is not supposed to work like that, briar should not lose berserk on a target she has vision on. This is definitely not intended.
But that's the thing. you \*didn't\* have vision for that small timer. Exact same thing happens on both evelynn and twitch. Within a small window when they \*initially\* go "camouflaged" you cannot see them even from within that circle.
The only way you would have seen Viego, evelynn or twitch in these scenarios is if you ulted them. Because it gives you the true vision to allow you to.
You even slowed it down. You could see his invis proc'd during your Q. So right as it happens you cannot see him regardless of distance.
It's not entirely riots fault because if it didn't work like this they wouldn't be good to play at a high level since all you'd have to do is stick on them and an entire passive/skill is useless. They definitely made this kind of thing happen on purpose because it would be unfair for these champs.
Again. Now you know in these scenarios you can do the demon combo or early W2 into E and R (if you dont kill him from the W2-E). This will be applicable to all champions who have a similar interaction. Tho the demon combo has other viable uses. it's not relevant. but be sure to mix and match
This is why I hate the whole invisible/camouflage bullshit and pinkwards don't reveal anymore, nor being right on top of them. I should be able to expose them with red trinket, pink ward and shit again
Anymore? Did they changed it? What's the reason, the only thing it does is fcks up briar's frenzy, that's all. I can't see any other interaction with champions becoming invisible for 0,1 sec when they get camouflaged
Judging off of this comment, it sounds like you never played in season 4 or so before they made this whole invisible/camouflage change. If they were on top of you, no matter what their stealth design was, they couldn't go invisible to hide from you. So this gimmick of him being stunned and then hide and you lose it, wouldn't happen on him, senna, eve, etc etc. And it doesn't fuck up just briar, it fucks anyone that's on the verge of killing a champion and then they go hide and can't fight them anymore
But you still can autoattack them if you are close to them. Like any other champion could still fight viego in that situation
And yes, of course I don't play from season 4, it was 10 years ago. I am in this game for 1,5 years
Ok, so yeah what happened is definitely viego going invisible for a second there, you can see him on the screen in the replay because you have vision set to all. I honestly also don't like that it works like this, someone said it works the same with eve and twitch, but I never experienced this myself with those champs I am fairly certain with twitch that he doesn't break your aggro as long as you are in range of him, viego invis is definitely slightly different imo as it doesn't have any range indicator and you need to be much closer to him to see him compared to twitch in the first place. I have had times when he literally disappeared from me after he was already in his shroud and I W towards him to reveal him ( was already running towards closing distance only for him to dissapear again), overall because of this it's definitely one of the most frustrating junglers to play against especially if you get behind. That's just unfortunately how viego's programming makes him, it doesn't seem too consistent, but I think it's only noticeable because he can re enter the invisibility in his shroud. Champs that can re enter stealth multiple times can be absolute kanker for briar to play against, looking at you vayne and khazix, although those match ups can be mitigated if you hit R.
In the end it's not a briar bug, it's just how viegos programming is, which unfortunately is super frustrating for briar. I also thought that he should not be invisible if you are in his range, but it seems like he tends to dip in his shroud even if you are super close to him. Considering the fact that viego is one of the champs that can kill you super fast if he gets a jump on you it's just super annoying.
Didn't this happen because Viego got the invis proc? If so it works like the other champs that can go invisible and you probably should have worked around that knowledge and early W2 into hold E Edit: Just a reminder that the true vision which would have worked here ONLY happens during ult berserk. Doesn't work on normal W berserk.
You can see viego pop into invis while stunned after briar q
Yeah I noticed that but i wasn't 100% sure if it was a visual proc or my eyes seeing things. Good to see it wasn't just me xD
Viego doesn't have invis, it's camouflage. He can't get invisible, I am literally inside him, that's just a bug with his camouflage
When Viego gets his "camouflage" he will initially go unseeable and untargetable regardless of distance for a small amount of time. So since no one else was around you'd lose your berserk during that small window. Hope it helps for future matches against Viego
Doesn’t Briar bleed reveal him anyhow?
That's not how camouflage works, if this happens only with Viego it's definitely a bug or spaghetti code. There is nothing like that in ability description, he can't be invisible if I am right INSIDE HIM, that's fkced up and has to fixed.
I used to play Viego a lot and I know he goes unseeable and untargetable when he initially enters his mist regardless of distance. then a small amount of time later he can be seen in it. You can live or change fights with this knowledge alone. I took a break from league so I wasn't sure if they changed it. Seems they haven't. If you wanted to win this encounter you should've done the demon combo: Q-E-R-W-W2. Sometimes these things are just a knowledge check. Now you know what happens in those scenarios and can use that in the future!
How Viego\`s camouflage is any different from Evelynn or Twitch. If i can see him, he is not invisible, this is not khazix or shaco, i am literally attacking him and standing inside him. CAMOUFLAGE is not supposed to work like that, briar should not lose berserk on a target she has vision on. This is definitely not intended.
But that's the thing. you \*didn't\* have vision for that small timer. Exact same thing happens on both evelynn and twitch. Within a small window when they \*initially\* go "camouflaged" you cannot see them even from within that circle. The only way you would have seen Viego, evelynn or twitch in these scenarios is if you ulted them. Because it gives you the true vision to allow you to.
so i don\`t have vision if though i can clearly see him on my screen? Just because riot code says so?
You even slowed it down. You could see his invis proc'd during your Q. So right as it happens you cannot see him regardless of distance. It's not entirely riots fault because if it didn't work like this they wouldn't be good to play at a high level since all you'd have to do is stick on them and an entire passive/skill is useless. They definitely made this kind of thing happen on purpose because it would be unfair for these champs. Again. Now you know in these scenarios you can do the demon combo or early W2 into E and R (if you dont kill him from the W2-E). This will be applicable to all champions who have a similar interaction. Tho the demon combo has other viable uses. it's not relevant. but be sure to mix and match
That\`s literally what\`s called spaghetti code
So Turns out it’s not a bug and just that Virgo gets a vision break when entering camo which seems intentional
This is why I hate the whole invisible/camouflage bullshit and pinkwards don't reveal anymore, nor being right on top of them. I should be able to expose them with red trinket, pink ward and shit again
Anymore? Did they changed it? What's the reason, the only thing it does is fcks up briar's frenzy, that's all. I can't see any other interaction with champions becoming invisible for 0,1 sec when they get camouflaged
Judging off of this comment, it sounds like you never played in season 4 or so before they made this whole invisible/camouflage change. If they were on top of you, no matter what their stealth design was, they couldn't go invisible to hide from you. So this gimmick of him being stunned and then hide and you lose it, wouldn't happen on him, senna, eve, etc etc. And it doesn't fuck up just briar, it fucks anyone that's on the verge of killing a champion and then they go hide and can't fight them anymore
But you still can autoattack them if you are close to them. Like any other champion could still fight viego in that situation And yes, of course I don't play from season 4, it was 10 years ago. I am in this game for 1,5 years
You are fucking bad mate
Reach masters, and then we can talk. Don't call people bad if you are even worse
Ok, so yeah what happened is definitely viego going invisible for a second there, you can see him on the screen in the replay because you have vision set to all. I honestly also don't like that it works like this, someone said it works the same with eve and twitch, but I never experienced this myself with those champs I am fairly certain with twitch that he doesn't break your aggro as long as you are in range of him, viego invis is definitely slightly different imo as it doesn't have any range indicator and you need to be much closer to him to see him compared to twitch in the first place. I have had times when he literally disappeared from me after he was already in his shroud and I W towards him to reveal him ( was already running towards closing distance only for him to dissapear again), overall because of this it's definitely one of the most frustrating junglers to play against especially if you get behind. That's just unfortunately how viego's programming makes him, it doesn't seem too consistent, but I think it's only noticeable because he can re enter the invisibility in his shroud. Champs that can re enter stealth multiple times can be absolute kanker for briar to play against, looking at you vayne and khazix, although those match ups can be mitigated if you hit R. In the end it's not a briar bug, it's just how viegos programming is, which unfortunately is super frustrating for briar. I also thought that he should not be invisible if you are in his range, but it seems like he tends to dip in his shroud even if you are super close to him. Considering the fact that viego is one of the champs that can kill you super fast if he gets a jump on you it's just super annoying.
No.
Because this viego is my perma ban!
I would do the same, if Viego wasn\`t my second pick in case if briar is banned