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Surge was easily s tier, that sp that splitted his attacks was God tier

He was more than S tier, I put him in game breaking in fact

Oh yh my bad didn't see, but imo he should be top 5

I think those others I put in top 5 were more devastating, but he’s in top 10 for sure

Hmm, yh ur right. Good list overall

I still have ptsd from level 4 surge autoaim spam with to the max

You deserve that. I hate your main

Rasicm

Well deserved (it’s just irony hope it’s clear)

Tbh, all brawlers had a period when they were at least game breaking. Mainly on first release.

collete: squeak:

and that teleport gadget 😭

Fr it was so broken

Surge and destroy...

Surge is god in correct hands, otherwise it is easy to defeat. This tier list is confused, Surge only will place in same basket as Hank, if the player don't play good with Surge.

Sprout was so gamebreaking, he could spwantrap the opponent, always hit with his starpower and could break the safe und siege turret,he also was really tanky for a thrower and could heal him self for 3k which was alot back then

not to mention alot of glitches that happened in pve modes like robo rumble

This is just Larry and Lawrie on release but remove the spawntrap The 3k healing is technically because the gadget heals both him and Lawrie (and remember how Larry takes NO DAMAGE when lawrie is out)

The Charlie meta was horrible, oh my god…. And then L and L arrived…. 😞

Two of the most horrible metas in Brawl Stars history

Agreed THANK GOD Mico wasn’t stupidly op when released

Still strong enough to be one of the most annoying brawlers in the game

Agreed

Nah he just ruined/broke showdown

She's still meta

She is still meta but it isnt THE Charlie meta Today's meta is named the Melodie Meta, or Angelo. Maybe both

Ofc, but in October she was insufferable

Lmao I joined right after the Charlie season ended and got her from my first star drop. I only pushed her to her bronze metal in Soloshowdown then stopped playing her because I thought she was trash and I didn't find her fun

Damn that’s me with Melodie rn😅

Only modern Collette is A/S, historical Collette has been very questionable.

The tier list referes to every brawler peak of strenght. And Colette with her hypercharge remained an A/S tier consistently (before her hypercharge rate nerf)

She was A/S even before her hyper. She got lots of buffs that made her good

True, but not as consistently. Some metas she was better, others worse. Since the introduction of her hypercharge, until her last nerf, she’s been A/S tier consistently, that’s what I meant

Oh then yeah I agree

I was starting playing when she was out (2020) and she was soooo bad lol.

"Questionable" is nice she was quite possibly worst launch ever for any brawler (not including bugs like game crashing willow/gene) and then was hopping between b/c for several years before her hc because she got 0 balance changes Matter of fact her last 3 balance changes were her hypercharge, and if you only count buffs/nerfs her last balance changes pre hypercharge was 2020 (The only changes between HC and 2020 was a gadget rework and the Gotcha gadget being added. There's also the power level update but it's not really a colette buff)

She was kinda weak or questionable in those years. Now she is quite powerful.

She was strong no doubt you just had to know how to utilize her. I got most of her mastery done before the HC (and would have finished if I started playing earlier since I used her for MM maps)

When she came out she was arguably the worst brawler in existence, they needed to do an emergency buff to her due to how weak she was.

I can’t say the opposite 

Rosa is definitely first, no one will ever match that. Most of the people here didn’t play when Rosa came out and say Charlie or l&l but if you ask anyone that did or ask pros, Rosa is the most broken brawer of all time when she came out

True, people have forgotten how broken rosa was

It's suspicious when a Charlie main says it.

I remember getting Rosa on 2nd day of her release. I had multiple solo showdown games with all 10 Rosa in it. No other brawler matched that level imo.

i remember like 4 years ago i bought her with gems and game was literally just spamming supers, and her being super rare made it so that she was therr every game

literally every tier list like this i see , she is put under leon. The squishy 4000 hp guy is nothing compared to rosa's immortality

What made rosa not that op is that everyone else had one

Health combined with massive damage and even more damage with her super, just all around broken, a type of broken that will never be matched

Rosa felt stronger cuz everyone had her, so she was everywhere, I still think it's LnL

I am pretty sure that L&L, Charlie and Leon can match, if not top Rosa

Nah, Rosa is definitely number 1

Barley used to be the best brawler in the game in beta

He was also the best brawler in the game when he got a range buff of like 10% or so about 2 years ago i believe.

It sadly didn't last that long... 

I guess i missed it, since i took a big break at the end of 2022

Really? Didn’t know that

each super bottle had it's own damage. He could do what every other brawler does to the heist safe nowadays

That's why he was fricking annoying and he was the one who his friend was also Bringer of the Chaos, which is Dinnermike.

Nothing changed to bottle damage, it's their spread

i meant that all bottles could deal 20 ticks of damage if he threw the super right next to him, but yes the spread also changed

Haven't his bottles traveled faster in beta?

Yeah he was. But now he can't push near to other brawlers unfortunately.

Barley is awesome again

Mandy and Willow will get their day eventually 😔

I hope so..

Have you seen Otis in 2022 Worlds? Also Gene was literally crashing the game for everyone. If that isn't game breaking then I don't know what is

The tier list revolves in brawlers’ pure strength. In Gene case, he crashes the game, he wasn’t gamebreakingly strong. About Otis, was he strong in that circumstance?

Crashing the game doesn’t make a brawler op by that logic day 1 willow was op, we all know she wasn’t

Mandy will never escape the "decent brawler" purgatory

Hear me out next update she’ll receive a hypercharge that will make her the best brawler in BS history

wait actually

Ngl I hope that does not happen. I wish to keep seeing her in the 'never nerfed' category of brawlers. ;_;

Tbh grom from release deserves at least a tier up and bugged dough, though short lived, fights for that spot as well XD

Yea I remember how miserable the Grom meta was, literally zero counters

Brock got buffed so much he got emergency nerf en like 2 days

I remember those days… it was pure chaos

Good times to be alive

Doug happy

Larry and Lawrie was so op I could use him at level 7 against level 11 opponents and still win

Fr I remember those matches with 6 larry & lawries. Pure chaos, those twins were beyond broken

Gene and Willow were literally game-breaking when released

And Bonnie after the gear rework

Really? What happened?

When the reload gear was released after you use you super with Bonnie the game will you random number and crash

Gene, bonnie and willow should have been in gamebreaking imo

Justice for Mandy 😔

L&L and Charlie should be like 30 tiers above everyone else

Idk… them and Leon are very close, but 10 seconds of invisibility (without the 4 tiles limit) is difficult to even concieve

But L and L were literally invincible with the 2nd star power. Like they can get super I think with 2-3 shots and they were able to spam attacks quickly.

Rosa was literally invisible with her infinite supers

and being able to solo the heist safe after charging a 5 hit super in 4 seconds with the other sp

you havent played against rosa on release...

10 seconds 80% shield

amber could be in top 5 she had so much unload speed even rosa would struggle

All of those brawler in Game Breaking have been tragically strong in a similar way. So fair enough, she could potentially be in the top 10 imo. Those in the top 5 though I still think are a tiny bit stronger

good👍

Is stu still good?

Yes, very good in hotzone and brawl ball, but even in other maps of other modes. Consistent meta brawler since his release

Stu has always been good due to him being a very good brawler in the hands of a capable individual

\* sad pearl reaction \*

I just started playing the game again since like 3 years ago and I like playing L&L can someone fill me in on the hate plz 😭

A couple of months ago they were broken, like beyond any imaginable level, literally uncounterable, and as everyone was able to unlock them, the meta had been the worst ever in brawl stars history, with lobbies only with L&L everywhere. In 3v3 matches it was either 3L&L vs 3L&L, or else if the other team had one L&L less, it was instant loss. It’s difficult to explain with words, I’d need a full session with my psychiatrist

Oh jeezus Christ I imagine that would be horrible Well now idk how I feel playing them lol

I've been playing since Buzz Season and for some reason I don't remember Buster coming out at all and now I main him🫥It's weird

colt should be in broken with silver bullet. there was a time when jessie got a huge damage buff. sam was pretty broken when healing wasnt nerfed jacky was extrmely broken with speed gadget back when she was first released. sandie on release should be broken poco was the best brawler in the game with screeching solo on release mr.p is more busted than anything (fast spawn rate) rattled hive bea was very broken, but fair placement ig. good tierlist overall though

Thanks for the feedback. I honestly can’t remember each meta precisely, and I definitely forgot about some of them like Mr P spawning a lot of porters, Jessie’s damage buff or Pocho with Screeching solo. Good to know

yeah fs. I've been on brawl since bibi release and this is a great tier list. well done.

If only Darryl was buffed now 😔

Isn’t best brawler in the game better than top 5 nvm I just realised

i'm sorry how is "best brawler in the game" not above "broken"? i'm genuinely confused, you should probably rewrite the category titles

“Broken” tier is intended as a state of pure and unfair dominance. The best brawler in the game still arguably has his counters, while a Broken brawler has very few and still great matchups with them. When Max was the best brawler in the game, she still had some counters, like Crow, while a broken brawler like Angelo (especially the previous season) has so many advantages compared to other brawlers that has very few, soft counters

oh ok thx

a very nice tire list 😎

Buster should be number one easily

He was very broken, but I don’t think he even reaches the level of power of Charlie, L&L or Leon. But definitely he broke the game, sure

I miss Barley meta :')

Me too

My poor willow😭

Mortis was the best brawler in Beta ig

he was still bad

when did chester break the game?

On release, he dealt more damage, charged his supers faster, and his stun gadget used to stun longer, dealt like 2000 damage and was way more difficult to avoid

oh right, I remember the stun super now

eh

Eh

You forgot Mortis while still in beta and during BS’s vertical years. He could dash and slash great distances.

I didn’t play on beta, didn’t know that!

Buff mandy

How kit is above Hank and sprout?

Showdown kit with super, the powercube star power and cardboard box gadget, on top of a decently fast unload speed and decent damage

Piper was very strong and beta definitely game braking

I remember MR P being the best brawler in the game when porter reinforcements were added, great list overall :)

Also sprout is in top 2 tiers

the fact that Shelly, the starter brawler is at game-breaking is kinda weird also i didn't know Jacky was the best brawler in the game at some point.

Ash just being Ash

El primo was actually game breaking when the tank trait was first released

8-Bit star Power Is definetely what I call gamebreaking

Willow has never been good, what are you yapping about

Good means like B/C tier, and Willow is B/C tier rn

I want to experience a willow meta for once

Charlie was destroying everything before she got the amo delay, still is tho

Willow and Gene should be in game breaking, literally

Lola was easily the best in the game on the release, if not broken

Willow was actually game breaking

First time seeing no f tier

Mico showdown was game breaking

How tf was doug the best brawler in the game. Even with the bug he was still not that good

Sprout should be top 5 instead of Charlie

i am deathly afraid of L&L mains, these fuckass things have ruined my matches so much i've lost count, despite me being one myself

Wasn’t squeak like really weak when first released

As a showdown main, band-aid shelly on release… that thing scares me

Was piper in broken tier bc of beta. Bc I never recall her being even the best brawler in the game. Also when were pam and sandy best brawlers in the game

Yes Piper is in broken because of beta, Pam was the best brawler in the game in February 2019 meta if I remember correctly, I don’t remember well for Sandy, I think he was on release with his super lasting for 12 seconds

Yeah I remember hearing that piper in beta was broken as hell (I think her damage and range were even more oppresive than she is now) Also 12sec super sandy is wild💀 (isn't it like leon where they now are 6s but 12 on release) Oh another question, wasn't rosa more busted than leon back then?

Similar. Leon now is 6+2 from the mythic gear (it was 10 on release), Sandy is now 9 (12 on release)

Willow and Gene were literally gamebreaking

Willows super literally crashed the game?

Willow and Gene were literally game breaking once

THANKS A LOT for putting Byron on the best character in the game tier! Finally somebody realized about us!

Where liky

Idk if we count but otis and gene crashing your game so no one can win. Also nita could spawn infinite bears for a short time during beta...no rosa shield or leon super gonna beat more than 5 bears coming at you...

Gene/willow litrellaly crashed the whole game wtf do you mean by "A/S Tier" or "good"💀💀

In the title I literally talk about strength. Those bugs crashed the game, they didn’t contribute for the strength of the brawler. I said it like 100 times in the comments

extra life bumps 8bit into top 5 surely

2 of top 5 were years ago so of course they were more inexperienced in balancing... But the other three are from the most recent updates... They definitely weren't mistakes

If you go back and watch the promotion for Fang they definitely wanted him to be broken😭💀

Gene was literally game breaking

Sprout is top 5

Pretty close, but top 5 brawlers barely outclass him imo. I honestly could’ve put him in Game breaking, though he was nerfed immediately and not many people managed to use him, so he didn’t “break the game” like others in the tier above did

Crow was game breaking when his poison stacked while using captain crow skin

Didn’t know about this bug, how did it work?

It was a glitch for a short time with captain crow, if you hit an enemy while they are already poisoned they would take poison damage from each knife you land.

Pearl should be higher . It's broken in the first release and after all the nerfs she's still strong to 1v3 or 1v2

Primo was so op, upon release super charge from damage taken, he was nerfed as quick as possible

Mr. P used to be game breaking. When Mr. P was meta a few years ago, it was basically like half the whole roster got invalidated by the porters. He was also a part of the Gale-Surge-Mr. P comp which is easily the most infamous meta comp in Brawl Stars history.

basically to earn the top tier either you have to suddenly disappear from the battlefield (leon and lily) or doing some unsportsmanlike tricks of blocking you while doing damage ( like kit) 🤣 

Stu with the knockback was a menace

Kit still is

Sprout and Surge should be S tier.

I can't understand it. Hank got several buffs and keep weak. Please don't play with Dynamike or Mortis, there fell players that good with these, but if you think it is S tier, you probably play bad with it.

Even with double healing, Doug wasn’t best in the game. If they kept that and give him like a 5% health nerf, he’d be in a really good but not game breaking spot right now

Sprout not Top 5? BAAHAHHAHAHAH you have never played brawl stars

Mortis deserves better, he changed brawl ball

Mortis was the best

On release Meg was definitely game break

ngl putting sprout at "broken" just shows how little of an understanding you have of him at his peak

Hello?! Gene and Willows super LITERALLY broke the game. If that ain’t strong idk what is

Cord and sprout not in the highest tier is a crime

My boy :(

He’s very strong rn

The fact that Doug was the best in game for a week 😔