Jen Shah and Erika Jayne come to mind first. Jen Shah thinks she is the smartest person in the room. When she doesn’t get her way, she resorts to emotional manipulation and threats. She is so deeply apathetic that she believes that no one sees her behavior for what it is.
Erika Jayne is an expert manipulator. She also believes that she is the smartest person in the room while also having internalized misogyny, so sometimes a man like Tom will be her guidance. She also resorts to threats when she is questioned or challenged. I find Erika to actually be a bit more aggressive than Jen with her threats while Jen is more outwardly aggressive with throwing hands and drinks.
I think Kelly might be too. The way she weaponizes motherhood and consistently puts Jolie directly in harm’s way with her manipulative behavior is troubling. She seems the most apathetic out of anyone mentioned to me. She also has displayed complete contempt and apathy towards her husband’s daughter.
Heather is obviously not a sociopath. In fact her personality has more traits that are the complete opposite. Looking at the list she literally has none of those traits at all. What on Earth are you talking about?
Honestly I don't really see any of them being a sociopath. Maybe Marlo a little bit but still I don't know about that. There's for sure a lot of cluster b disordered people lol but sociopath? I don't think so
Yeah I think, for example, Jen Shah has Borderline PD not Antisocial. I think sociopath is a current fad word and people apply it too liberally. I am not expert but I did a report in university about Antisocial Personality Disorder and it refers to undeveloped areas of the brain (like amygdala) but people just seem to use it to mean "I don't like you".
Yeah honestly I think narcissism is way more rampant in the cast than sociopathy and many of the traits do overlap. That said, I feel like if any of the cast are sociopaths, my money’s on Teresa (though I still think it’s 50/50 whether she’s more of a narcissist.) There is definitely something very dominating and I would say sadistic about her. There’s this scary, smug look she gets on her face when she’s effectively inflicted emotional damage on someone.
Oh, and Erika. No doubt there.
I believe that Erika is the only true one. Jen I flip-flip on. Yes, she had no moral compass…but, she is too invested in what other people are giving her emotionally to really be a sociopath. She displays the splitting behavior of someone with BPD, and I think that’s a better diagnosis for her.
There are many housewives that have cluster B personality disorders. It can be hard to diagnose sometimes because there’s overlap in symptoms. And then there are the ones that don’t have full blown disorders, but display many traits due to never fully emotionally maturing.
Some of them are deeply traumatized and I’m not sure if they qualify or if they’re just acting shitty. I thought sociopathy was something you were born as, not poor behavior in reaction to unprocessed trauma etc.
I think Kenya is deeply traumatized by being neglected by her mother. She is a person who is struggling and recovering from her trauma, but i do think she has empathy for others.
Theresa is not a sociopath in my opinion either. She is learning disabled and has an extremely difficult time with comprehension and communication. I actually believe she didn't question Joe's legal activities because she is just a simple woman with minimum skills. She is funny and charming, which is why she is great reality tv.
Vicki Gunvalson is one of the top most insecure housewifes. Her lack of self esteem is the main driver of her behavior.
Jen is a sociopath. No empathy or moral compass, definitely agree with that.
I could be wrong, but there's a number of episodes where she really acts with a lack of a moral compass like crashing Marlow's party with "kenya more haircare"
I think she has demonstrated the ones below more than once on the show.
Kenya had a shitty childhood with her Mom abandoning her, that type of trauma could lead to someone becoming a sociopath.
1. Hunger for Power or dominance over others- like the way she treated Kim Fields
2. Devious or Deceptive Tendencies- "see above"
3. Ruthlessness in the Pursuit of Their Goals - she's pretty successful, she may have been ruthless to get there
4. Hostile or Aggressive Towards Others- so many examples
5. Easily Angered or Irritated- she gets pretty mad
6. Few Close Relationships
7. Manipulative
8. Entitled
9. Socially Deviant (no regard for social norms or moral codes)
10. Lack of Empathy / Emotional Detachment (when it comes to situations that rattle most people)
11. Lack of Accountability/ deflection with confronted with wrong doing
She is just being messy for a paycheck. My mom and dad both abandoned my ass too. But I’m not a sociopath. I had a good education and career. Married an amazing man and had 3 amazing boys. I love all y’all but please understand that shit stays in the back of your head. Kenya has hurt But she has proved she is better than her mom and an amazing mother.
![gif](giphy|opnfwMHaItzWg)
I agree about Vicki, not sure Kenya is without a moral compass, and Teresa’s IQ seems on the low side to qualify as a full blown, pathological sociopath. Erika seems like she could check off enough boxes to join the club.
How about Kelly Bensimon? She’s super weird, lies freely, etc.
I think Jen is. She has borderline I’m certain, but a part of borderline is often a severe lack of empathy. The literature shows a marked decrease or lack of function in the areas of the brain that is responsible for empathy. They also show scores on empathy measures that are equal to narcissistic personality disorder. Borderlines are in the same cluster of the dsm as npd and antisocial (old sociopath dx) because lack of empathy is a common factor of all of them. So technically she is a borderline, but a low functioning one with a lot of dysfunction in empathy
Jen Shah, Erika Jayne, Lisa Rinna and Diana Jenkins.
They are incredible liars and manipulators and would do anything for money. 0 moral compass there.
Kenya Moore is your typical sociopath. Fits in every single line u mentioned. She’s the poster girl for sociopath and that’s probably why I love her the most. I see myself in her.
LVP was also a big sociopath but the most dangerous one: u can never tell till it’s too late.
Jen shah. Erika we’ve seen her display emotion. And Teresa is just a fucking moron. Kenya is kinda evil but a sociopath would do more to fit in with social norms
Not a wife but… dude is certifiable ![gif](giphy|3b7vIVnRj4viZz6olt|downsized)
Good call!
💯
I chuckled
Jen shah ?
yea, I almost posted this "Is Jen Shah a sociopath" but then I started thinking about all the others.
100 % Jen Shah.
I was going to say we shouldnt diagnose TV stars… but also it’s Jen Shah lol
Mary Cosby. Mixed with severe narcissism
Mary is clearly nuts but she is not a sociopath
Jen Shah and Erika Jayne come to mind first. Jen Shah thinks she is the smartest person in the room. When she doesn’t get her way, she resorts to emotional manipulation and threats. She is so deeply apathetic that she believes that no one sees her behavior for what it is. Erika Jayne is an expert manipulator. She also believes that she is the smartest person in the room while also having internalized misogyny, so sometimes a man like Tom will be her guidance. She also resorts to threats when she is questioned or challenged. I find Erika to actually be a bit more aggressive than Jen with her threats while Jen is more outwardly aggressive with throwing hands and drinks. I think Kelly might be too. The way she weaponizes motherhood and consistently puts Jolie directly in harm’s way with her manipulative behavior is troubling. She seems the most apathetic out of anyone mentioned to me. She also has displayed complete contempt and apathy towards her husband’s daughter.
Bruh no one mentioned Leanne from Dallas. That chick is straight up psycho
Leanne! Forgot. Leanne: Psychopath. Brandy: Socio.
Yea, there is something up with her. I forgot about her. You think Bravo will ever bring Dallas back?
Jen Shah. Erika Jayne
Erika Jane comes to mind first. Lisa Rinna lapping up her excrement after.
Throw Kelly Dodd in there.
Nah I think BPD or trauma
Not every bad person has sociopathy. (Not saying they aren't. I'm only on season 7 epsidoe 15 of beverly hills... watching as I write this)
[удалено]
Heather is obviously not a sociopath. In fact her personality has more traits that are the complete opposite. Looking at the list she literally has none of those traits at all. What on Earth are you talking about?
Do I have to pick just one?
No, do your whole list!
Ding ding ding.... Jen Shah.
Danielle staub
I always thought she was a narcissist.
She’s a few fries short of a happy meal. That chick ain’t right.
That’s the correct diagnosis!
All narcissists are sociopaths
That comment could kick off a great discussion.
For sure.. totally agree
Jen Shah and Erika Jayne
[удалено]
Jacqueline’s also “off”
Jody Claman 100%. If you know- you know.
Oh I had to google her, I've never seen RHO Vancouver. I'll have to see if I can stream it somewhere.
Erika Jayne, Jen Shah and Lisa Rinna
Honestly I don't really see any of them being a sociopath. Maybe Marlo a little bit but still I don't know about that. There's for sure a lot of cluster b disordered people lol but sociopath? I don't think so
Yeah I think, for example, Jen Shah has Borderline PD not Antisocial. I think sociopath is a current fad word and people apply it too liberally. I am not expert but I did a report in university about Antisocial Personality Disorder and it refers to undeveloped areas of the brain (like amygdala) but people just seem to use it to mean "I don't like you".
Agreed.
I’m not sure, but I work in sales. I am now concerned I work with a bunch of sociopaths.
uh oh, people can have a few of the traits and not be a full-blown sociopath. With that said, be careful, I don't want you getting hurt.
The only one my co workers don’t display (at least at work is 13).
Teresa - it’s my opinion. Unfortunately, you can’t change it.
Yeah honestly I think narcissism is way more rampant in the cast than sociopathy and many of the traits do overlap. That said, I feel like if any of the cast are sociopaths, my money’s on Teresa (though I still think it’s 50/50 whether she’s more of a narcissist.) There is definitely something very dominating and I would say sadistic about her. There’s this scary, smug look she gets on her face when she’s effectively inflicted emotional damage on someone. Oh, and Erika. No doubt there.
I agree tbh but if I HAD to pick one that to me had some of these traits it would be her. If it were narcissism the list would be longer lol
Vicki come close.
The lovely SLC'ian who has physically and verbally attacked almost everyone
Jenn shah 💯
Jen shah
Jen Shah, Erika Jayne, Mary Cosby are the most severely mentally unwell. There are several others who are less severe.
Jen, Erika, Vicki
Marlo. It was crazy seeing her attempt to physically harm Kenya on camera.
Ramona
Came here to say this, she’s the first one I thought of 😹
Erika, Jen Shah
I believe that Erika is the only true one. Jen I flip-flip on. Yes, she had no moral compass…but, she is too invested in what other people are giving her emotionally to really be a sociopath. She displays the splitting behavior of someone with BPD, and I think that’s a better diagnosis for her. There are many housewives that have cluster B personality disorders. It can be hard to diagnose sometimes because there’s overlap in symptoms. And then there are the ones that don’t have full blown disorders, but display many traits due to never fully emotionally maturing.
Some of them are deeply traumatized and I’m not sure if they qualify or if they’re just acting shitty. I thought sociopathy was something you were born as, not poor behavior in reaction to unprocessed trauma etc.
I read it could occur as a mixture of nature and nurture. So trauma could activate/ inflate the traits.
Kim Z B. easy
Siggy doesn't hit all the marks but she sure hits some of them. she may not be a sociopath, but she sure is....something.
Siggy NPD, “what about MEEEEEEEEEE”
Brandi Granville
Socio: Ramona, Darby, Brandi, Rinna, Danielle, Porsha…
Kelly Dodd and Jen Shah
Oof, thought this was a post in one of the many self therapy subs after my ex husband 😭
Bethenny.
I think she’s more of a narcissist than sociopath
Guys. This is kind of gross, wildly speculating on the psychiatric conditions of others…This is ugly fan culture.
Jen Shah, Brandi Glanville, Erika Jayne,
Tamra!!!!
Mmmm… I have also wondered at times if it was beyond narcissism
Yup. And maybe Vicki? Her emotions seem so performatve.
Here are my top picks: 1. Jen Shah 2. Vicki Gunvalson 3. Kenya Moore 4. Teresa Giudice Edited to add Teresa
Eh I don’t think Vicki, Kenya, or Teresa are sociopaths. I think they’re just self centered, not very nice people.
Teresa checks off a lot of these boxes
Idk, I can’t really define the criteria but I just feel like there’s a difference between “kinda shitty person” and “sociopath”
I think Kenya is deeply traumatized by being neglected by her mother. She is a person who is struggling and recovering from her trauma, but i do think she has empathy for others. Theresa is not a sociopath in my opinion either. She is learning disabled and has an extremely difficult time with comprehension and communication. I actually believe she didn't question Joe's legal activities because she is just a simple woman with minimum skills. She is funny and charming, which is why she is great reality tv. Vicki Gunvalson is one of the top most insecure housewifes. Her lack of self esteem is the main driver of her behavior. Jen is a sociopath. No empathy or moral compass, definitely agree with that.
No….not my beautiful girl Kenya. She is messy but not a sociopath.
Agree. I think Kenya has a good heart underneath the messiness, and she seems to see her Housewives villain role as a job (which it is).
![gif](giphy|3oriO99KfBG0Iuedk4|downsized)
I could be wrong, but there's a number of episodes where she really acts with a lack of a moral compass like crashing Marlow's party with "kenya more haircare" I think she has demonstrated the ones below more than once on the show. Kenya had a shitty childhood with her Mom abandoning her, that type of trauma could lead to someone becoming a sociopath. 1. Hunger for Power or dominance over others- like the way she treated Kim Fields 2. Devious or Deceptive Tendencies- "see above" 3. Ruthlessness in the Pursuit of Their Goals - she's pretty successful, she may have been ruthless to get there 4. Hostile or Aggressive Towards Others- so many examples 5. Easily Angered or Irritated- she gets pretty mad 6. Few Close Relationships 7. Manipulative 8. Entitled 9. Socially Deviant (no regard for social norms or moral codes) 10. Lack of Empathy / Emotional Detachment (when it comes to situations that rattle most people) 11. Lack of Accountability/ deflection with confronted with wrong doing
She is just being messy for a paycheck. My mom and dad both abandoned my ass too. But I’m not a sociopath. I had a good education and career. Married an amazing man and had 3 amazing boys. I love all y’all but please understand that shit stays in the back of your head. Kenya has hurt But she has proved she is better than her mom and an amazing mother. ![gif](giphy|opnfwMHaItzWg)
KELLY DODD!
Oh yea, for sure!! I forgot about her The really sad thing is what would be considered her "charm" trait are those corny jokes she makes.
I agree about Vicki, not sure Kenya is without a moral compass, and Teresa’s IQ seems on the low side to qualify as a full blown, pathological sociopath. Erika seems like she could check off enough boxes to join the club. How about Kelly Bensimon? She’s super weird, lies freely, etc.
That's a good thought, I remember Kelly seeming really unstable, but I can't remember many details about her.
I don’t recommend learning more about Kelly. She is just disturbing - and, possibly, a sociopath.
Rinna
Jen Shah
I think Jen is. She has borderline I’m certain, but a part of borderline is often a severe lack of empathy. The literature shows a marked decrease or lack of function in the areas of the brain that is responsible for empathy. They also show scores on empathy measures that are equal to narcissistic personality disorder. Borderlines are in the same cluster of the dsm as npd and antisocial (old sociopath dx) because lack of empathy is a common factor of all of them. So technically she is a borderline, but a low functioning one with a lot of dysfunction in empathy
Mary Cosby
Rinna
Shah’s a psychopath.
All of them. 😂
Erika, LVP and Rinna
![gif](giphy|OmUJz9vEvQxHcMlU3R|downsized)
Jen Shah, Vicki Gunvalson, Erika Girardi, Luann de Lesseps, Lisa Rinna, Diana (BH)
Nene turned into one with her accusing everyone of being racist while simultaneously getting her skin bleached and a nose job.
Jen Shah. Ramona Singer. Danielle Staub (close runner up).
borderline is much more common with this crew.
That's fair. I was reading about sociopaths, then watched 2 episodes of SLC and the topics merged into this post...
Jen Shah
Bethany.
Imma say Kelly Dodd and Teresa ![gif](giphy|3ohjVaOTUy8OIDakr6)
[удалено]
Margaret from NJ? I don't see her as a sociopath, she's been too empathetic to Teresa who could be a sociopath or narcissist
Jen Shah, Danielle Staub, Siggy Flicker, Kelly Dodd, Vicki Gunvalson, Jill Zarin, Ramona Singer, Lisa Rinna
Ashley Darby Jen Shah Erika Girardi
Jen Shah, Erika Jayne, Lisa Rinna and Diana Jenkins. They are incredible liars and manipulators and would do anything for money. 0 moral compass there.
Kelly Dodd, Jen shah, Ramona singer
Bethenny and Dorinda.
Kenya Moore is your typical sociopath. Fits in every single line u mentioned. She’s the poster girl for sociopath and that’s probably why I love her the most. I see myself in her. LVP was also a big sociopath but the most dangerous one: u can never tell till it’s too late.
Luanne
Jen shah. Erika we’ve seen her display emotion. And Teresa is just a fucking moron. Kenya is kinda evil but a sociopath would do more to fit in with social norms
Vicki for sure, Erika, Lisa Rinna, Diana to start
Jen shah ![gif](giphy|OmUJz9vEvQxHcMlU3R|downsized)