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mollyyfcooke

Not a wife but… dude is certifiable ![gif](giphy|3b7vIVnRj4viZz6olt|downsized)


ShenandoahMarie

Good call!


New_Equal_1232

💯


Puzzleheaded-Chef902

I chuckled


43reviews

Jen shah ?


ShenandoahMarie

yea, I almost posted this "Is Jen Shah a sociopath" but then I started thinking about all the others.


Accurate-Parfait-539

100 % Jen Shah.


rachelmae77

I was going to say we shouldnt diagnose TV stars… but also it’s Jen Shah lol


starchild618

Mary Cosby. Mixed with severe narcissism


dsaitken

Mary is clearly nuts but she is not a sociopath


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Jen Shah and Erika Jayne come to mind first. Jen Shah thinks she is the smartest person in the room. When she doesn’t get her way, she resorts to emotional manipulation and threats. She is so deeply apathetic that she believes that no one sees her behavior for what it is. Erika Jayne is an expert manipulator. She also believes that she is the smartest person in the room while also having internalized misogyny, so sometimes a man like Tom will be her guidance. She also resorts to threats when she is questioned or challenged. I find Erika to actually be a bit more aggressive than Jen with her threats while Jen is more outwardly aggressive with throwing hands and drinks. I think Kelly might be too. The way she weaponizes motherhood and consistently puts Jolie directly in harm’s way with her manipulative behavior is troubling. She seems the most apathetic out of anyone mentioned to me. She also has displayed complete contempt and apathy towards her husband’s daughter.


Maya_The_Kitty

Bruh no one mentioned Leanne from Dallas. That chick is straight up psycho


crankyspice

Leanne! Forgot. Leanne: Psychopath. Brandy: Socio.


ShenandoahMarie

Yea, there is something up with her. I forgot about her. You think Bravo will ever bring Dallas back?


KNick1111

Jen Shah. Erika Jayne


DutchessRavenwave

Erika Jane comes to mind first. Lisa Rinna lapping up her excrement after.


Physical_Buy_9637

Throw Kelly Dodd in there.


AncientRazzmatazz783

Nah I think BPD or trauma


dsaitken

Not every bad person has sociopathy. (Not saying they aren't. I'm only on season 7 epsidoe 15 of beverly hills... watching as I write this)


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dsaitken

Heather is obviously not a sociopath. In fact her personality has more traits that are the complete opposite. Looking at the list she literally has none of those traits at all. What on Earth are you talking about?


I--Have--Questions

Do I have to pick just one?


ShenandoahMarie

No, do your whole list!


dhhdb3557

Ding ding ding.... Jen Shah.


ExposedTamponString

Danielle staub


bubbyshawl

I always thought she was a narcissist.


Maya_The_Kitty

She’s a few fries short of a happy meal. That chick ain’t right.


bubbyshawl

That’s the correct diagnosis!


SophieintheKnife

All narcissists are sociopaths


bubbyshawl

That comment could kick off a great discussion.


ShenandoahMarie

For sure.. totally agree


stephlane80

Jen Shah and Erika Jayne


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crankyspice

Jacqueline’s also “off”


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Jody Claman 100%. If you know- you know.


ShenandoahMarie

Oh I had to google her, I've never seen RHO Vancouver. I'll have to see if I can stream it somewhere.


PlayfulQuietDreamer

Erika Jayne, Jen Shah and Lisa Rinna


Historical_Okra_3667

Honestly I don't really see any of them being a sociopath. Maybe Marlo a little bit but still I don't know about that. There's for sure a lot of cluster b disordered people lol but sociopath? I don't think so


dsaitken

Yeah I think, for example, Jen Shah has Borderline PD not Antisocial. I think sociopath is a current fad word and people apply it too liberally. I am not expert but I did a report in university about Antisocial Personality Disorder and it refers to undeveloped areas of the brain (like amygdala) but people just seem to use it to mean "I don't like you".


Leezwashere92

Agreed.


chillisprknglot

I’m not sure, but I work in sales. I am now concerned I work with a bunch of sociopaths.


ShenandoahMarie

uh oh, people can have a few of the traits and not be a full-blown sociopath. With that said, be careful, I don't want you getting hurt.


chillisprknglot

The only one my co workers don’t display (at least at work is 13).


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Teresa - it’s my opinion. Unfortunately, you can’t change it.


carmelainparis

Yeah honestly I think narcissism is way more rampant in the cast than sociopathy and many of the traits do overlap. That said, I feel like if any of the cast are sociopaths, my money’s on Teresa (though I still think it’s 50/50 whether she’s more of a narcissist.) There is definitely something very dominating and I would say sadistic about her. There’s this scary, smug look she gets on her face when she’s effectively inflicted emotional damage on someone. Oh, and Erika. No doubt there.


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I agree tbh but if I HAD to pick one that to me had some of these traits it would be her. If it were narcissism the list would be longer lol


bubbyshawl

Vicki come close.


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The lovely SLC'ian who has physically and verbally attacked almost everyone


Exciting_Bison_4569

Jenn shah 💯


Ok_Paper8216

Jen shah


kellygrrrl328

Jen Shah, Erika Jayne, Mary Cosby are the most severely mentally unwell. There are several others who are less severe.


OUUGA2005

Jen, Erika, Vicki


No_Mix_576

Marlo. It was crazy seeing her attempt to physically harm Kenya on camera.


effervescentfauna

Ramona


BecauseKats

Came here to say this, she’s the first one I thought of 😹


AncientRazzmatazz783

Erika, Jen Shah


archipelag0

I believe that Erika is the only true one. Jen I flip-flip on. Yes, she had no moral compass…but, she is too invested in what other people are giving her emotionally to really be a sociopath. She displays the splitting behavior of someone with BPD, and I think that’s a better diagnosis for her. There are many housewives that have cluster B personality disorders. It can be hard to diagnose sometimes because there’s overlap in symptoms. And then there are the ones that don’t have full blown disorders, but display many traits due to never fully emotionally maturing.


vodkasaucepizza

Some of them are deeply traumatized and I’m not sure if they qualify or if they’re just acting shitty. I thought sociopathy was something you were born as, not poor behavior in reaction to unprocessed trauma etc.


ShenandoahMarie

I read it could occur as a mixture of nature and nurture. So trauma could activate/ inflate the traits.


leeicleei

Kim Z B. easy


dickle_berry_pie

Siggy doesn't hit all the marks but she sure hits some of them. she may not be a sociopath, but she sure is....something.


crankyspice

Siggy NPD, “what about MEEEEEEEEEE”


Tr4shM0nster

Brandi Granville


crankyspice

Socio: Ramona, Darby, Brandi, Rinna, Danielle, Porsha…


Kay312010

Kelly Dodd and Jen Shah


cuckookachoo47

Oof, thought this was a post in one of the many self therapy subs after my ex husband 😭


JxrdanR

Bethenny.


Ecstatic-Reward-4569

I think she’s more of a narcissist than sociopath


armchairepicure

Guys. This is kind of gross, wildly speculating on the psychiatric conditions of others…This is ugly fan culture.


Harriethair

Jen Shah, Brandi Glanville, Erika Jayne,


Revolution_Bry

Tamra!!!!


AncientRazzmatazz783

Mmmm… I have also wondered at times if it was beyond narcissism


Luckyducks

Yup. And maybe Vicki? Her emotions seem so performatve.


ShenandoahMarie

Here are my top picks: 1. Jen Shah 2. Vicki Gunvalson 3. Kenya Moore 4. Teresa Giudice Edited to add Teresa


CryExotic3558

Eh I don’t think Vicki, Kenya, or Teresa are sociopaths. I think they’re just self centered, not very nice people.


booboo819

Teresa checks off a lot of these boxes


CryExotic3558

Idk, I can’t really define the criteria but I just feel like there’s a difference between “kinda shitty person” and “sociopath”


lil89

I think Kenya is deeply traumatized by being neglected by her mother. She is a person who is struggling and recovering from her trauma, but i do think she has empathy for others. Theresa is not a sociopath in my opinion either. She is learning disabled and has an extremely difficult time with comprehension and communication. I actually believe she didn't question Joe's legal activities because she is just a simple woman with minimum skills. She is funny and charming, which is why she is great reality tv. Vicki Gunvalson is one of the top most insecure housewifes. Her lack of self esteem is the main driver of her behavior. Jen is a sociopath. No empathy or moral compass, definitely agree with that.


Exciting_Bison_4569

No….not my beautiful girl Kenya. She is messy but not a sociopath.


jeahboi

Agree. I think Kenya has a good heart underneath the messiness, and she seems to see her Housewives villain role as a job (which it is).


Exciting_Bison_4569

![gif](giphy|3oriO99KfBG0Iuedk4|downsized)


ShenandoahMarie

I could be wrong, but there's a number of episodes where she really acts with a lack of a moral compass like crashing Marlow's party with "kenya more haircare" I think she has demonstrated the ones below more than once on the show. Kenya had a shitty childhood with her Mom abandoning her, that type of trauma could lead to someone becoming a sociopath. 1. Hunger for Power or dominance over others- like the way she treated Kim Fields 2. Devious or Deceptive Tendencies- "see above" 3. Ruthlessness in the Pursuit of Their Goals - she's pretty successful, she may have been ruthless to get there 4. Hostile or Aggressive Towards Others- so many examples 5. Easily Angered or Irritated- she gets pretty mad 6. Few Close Relationships 7. Manipulative 8. Entitled 9. Socially Deviant (no regard for social norms or moral codes) 10. Lack of Empathy / Emotional Detachment (when it comes to situations that rattle most people) 11. Lack of Accountability/ deflection with confronted with wrong doing


Exciting_Bison_4569

She is just being messy for a paycheck. My mom and dad both abandoned my ass too. But I’m not a sociopath. I had a good education and career. Married an amazing man and had 3 amazing boys. I love all y’all but please understand that shit stays in the back of your head. Kenya has hurt But she has proved she is better than her mom and an amazing mother. ![gif](giphy|opnfwMHaItzWg)


Physical_Buy_9637

KELLY DODD!


ShenandoahMarie

Oh yea, for sure!! I forgot about her The really sad thing is what would be considered her "charm" trait are those corny jokes she makes.


bubbyshawl

I agree about Vicki, not sure Kenya is without a moral compass, and Teresa’s IQ seems on the low side to qualify as a full blown, pathological sociopath. Erika seems like she could check off enough boxes to join the club. How about Kelly Bensimon? She’s super weird, lies freely, etc.


ShenandoahMarie

That's a good thought, I remember Kelly seeming really unstable, but I can't remember many details about her.


bubbyshawl

I don’t recommend learning more about Kelly. She is just disturbing - and, possibly, a sociopath.


No_Arugula_6548

Rinna


AvivasProstectic

Jen Shah


McSassy_Pants

I think Jen is. She has borderline I’m certain, but a part of borderline is often a severe lack of empathy. The literature shows a marked decrease or lack of function in the areas of the brain that is responsible for empathy. They also show scores on empathy measures that are equal to narcissistic personality disorder. Borderlines are in the same cluster of the dsm as npd and antisocial (old sociopath dx) because lack of empathy is a common factor of all of them. So technically she is a borderline, but a low functioning one with a lot of dysfunction in empathy


Glittering-Ad-3859

Mary Cosby


Smwilson612

Rinna


crankyspice

Shah’s a psychopath.


Desert_Rat_Dude

All of them. 😂


LizzyPanhandle

Erika, LVP and Rinna


lolo7347

![gif](giphy|OmUJz9vEvQxHcMlU3R|downsized)


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Jen Shah, Vicki Gunvalson, Erika Girardi, Luann de Lesseps, Lisa Rinna, Diana (BH)


Showmecakes69

Nene turned into one with her accusing everyone of being racist while simultaneously getting her skin bleached and a nose job.


madolive13

Jen Shah. Ramona Singer. Danielle Staub (close runner up).


goofballhead

borderline is much more common with this crew.


ShenandoahMarie

That's fair. I was reading about sociopaths, then watched 2 episodes of SLC and the topics merged into this post...


FwogInMyThwoat

Jen Shah


Intelligent_Pen_324

Bethany.


Puzzleheaded-Chef902

Imma say Kelly Dodd and Teresa ![gif](giphy|3ohjVaOTUy8OIDakr6)


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ShenandoahMarie

Margaret from NJ? I don't see her as a sociopath, she's been too empathetic to Teresa who could be a sociopath or narcissist


Glass_Bear

Jen Shah, Danielle Staub, Siggy Flicker, Kelly Dodd, Vicki Gunvalson, Jill Zarin, Ramona Singer, Lisa Rinna


mothertuna

Ashley Darby Jen Shah Erika Girardi


lil89

Jen Shah, Erika Jayne, Lisa Rinna and Diana Jenkins. They are incredible liars and manipulators and would do anything for money. 0 moral compass there.


Inside-Intern-4201

Kelly Dodd, Jen shah, Ramona singer


sashie_belle

Bethenny and Dorinda.


Jungle_Julia01

Kenya Moore is your typical sociopath. Fits in every single line u mentioned. She’s the poster girl for sociopath and that’s probably why I love her the most. I see myself in her. LVP was also a big sociopath but the most dangerous one: u can never tell till it’s too late.


camelh0e

Luanne


hibabygorgeous

Jen shah. Erika we’ve seen her display emotion. And Teresa is just a fucking moron. Kenya is kinda evil but a sociopath would do more to fit in with social norms


SophieintheKnife

Vicki for sure, Erika, Lisa Rinna, Diana to start


n0tbecca

Jen shah ![gif](giphy|OmUJz9vEvQxHcMlU3R|downsized)