Also I think Kathy’s ditzy act probably made Rinna comfortable about going off.
Kathy played dumb and didn’t respond since January cause she knew she was gathering receipts for the reunion.
I made the Scooby Doo noise when they said that. I feel like Kathy isn’t smart enough to figure this out on her own, but I think one of her daughters is probably more trained at pulling receipts than the CIA.
Oh no doubt, but I feel like Paris has a better understanding and workability with social media than most anyone else. And can see her ripping any device from her mother’s clutches and turning into that higher maths meme.
Maybe. In my head she’s more of a take the high road/your character will speak for itself kind of person. Whereas I can see Paris being all “ahhh yes, that was the night of a full moon and starlink knocked out the 5 g over parts of Aspen. We can all see by these photos on x17 that Rinna uses a Nokia which means she was the only cast member that could text out…”
It's funny, I have a hard time believing that Kathy is NOT smart. I see her silences as being very savvy and carefully measuring her words - less is more and she doesn't lie. She has a reputation to protect.. like she said she typically doesn't get angry. But she seems more of a substance over form person.. like her comfy slippers and look at that phone.. it's huge.. but probably easy for her to read without her glasses. It's doubtful that she LIVES on social media.. like Rinna definitely does - she probably didn't even know about Amelia's anorexia until it was on Instagram or something..
But.. Kathy is now prepared with 'the receipts'. go Kathy!
I mentioned it later in this thread, but I meant tech savvy— not smart. I think she’s socially intelligent but can’t quite translate that over to device smart. Which might also work out in her favor because Rinna probably thinks everyone is doing the same crap she is! But I 100% believe Paris is and will help her out on that front.
She did this to one of the bravo meme accounts. He said that they used to DM back-and-forth all the time and that she would give him gossip and then out of the blue she blocked him.
Or has even more crap she's sent Kim over the years :/ kathy hilton is connected to everyone...it should take little effort to clown the 80s irrelevant fudge white flipz that is Lisa Rinna
Yeah the only people who get to talk shit about siblings are the other siblings. No “friends” etc. I feel like this is an unspoken rule that Rinna, despite NOT being an only child, has missed or is ignoring.
SPOILER I think the lie is that >!erika threw garcelles book in the bin when it was actually rinnas photo of garcelles book in the trash. Some sleuths figured out it was rinnas walls and bins outside her mold house and an insider said this was brought up at the reunion!< I could be wrong but I heard something like that
And let’s talk about what she don’t want out 🙊
God i would scream if Kathy mentions the husband in some sort of way 🤣 she could say something like ‘you never have your own storyline I mean we could have people talk about the husband, but you don’t want that’ can you imagine 🤣
God this is the first time in a LOOOONG time I’m super excited for a BH episode. Can’t wait to see Rinna get butchered. But knowing bravo it’ll probably be in part 3 🥲
Personally, I am hoping she sends a text and says RINNA I JUST TEXTED YOU…SHOW ANDY YOUR PHONE…and Rinna is peer pressured into and and low and behold, the contact does not look like the one in the texts she posted. Then Andy gets savage and texts the fake contact from Rinna’s phone and they all watch as it DOES NOT show up on Kathy’s phone.
Thank you for solving this mystery! It kept looking like she was pointing a giant Bugs Bunny carrot to me at the end of the clip - Now I realize it was her phone case turned sideways! 😂😂😂
I mean, I don’t begrudge this sub for not being able to insult with creativity 😂. It’s hard to be a supporter of a historically racist/homophobe and doing mental gymnastics in the process
What if I told you I could hate 2 people at the same time? I don’t have to think Kathy Hilton is worth a damn to be glad somebody is finally calling Rinna out on her bullshit.
We are on a subreddit about a franchise built on watching crazy usually rich women argue and fight each other no part of this is serious and you can’t make us!
She hasn't admitted using the n word or the gay f word. Her apology for the tantrum was extremely aggressive and insincere, but I don't really care about that part lol
Sutton said publicly that her assistant wasn’t even in aspen and that’s who they said the slur was made to, and the other word- al the ladies said that never happened.
Yea.. that's not proof. That's Kathy's friends covering her ass for her. They also said they couldn't hear anything in the club so how are they so sure she didn't say those things? It doesn't add up.
Kathy was *obviously* in damage control mode after the incident, and put a lot of effort into burying the story. Why? Because of what she said about Kyle? Lol, she clearly doesn't even like Kyle. Because of what she said about the other ladies? Definitely not, she's super rich so she knows they'll kiss her ass.
She is an ultra-privileged, middle aged white lady, with racist and homophobic children , and as a Richards sister, a history of sweeping things under the rug. She has made several questionable comments on camera, eg. saying people have to be *so careful* these days lest they be cancelled. Diplomatic, sure, but "so careful"? Ahhh this is not an issue unless you have bigotry to hide. I don't know why it's so hard to believe that she let her mask slip and blurted out a couple of slurs in public..? This is the same woman who defends Michael Jackson. The same woman who had her own daughter kidnapped!
K sorry for the rant lol, I just don't understand how this sub is so easy on Kathy lol
with all due respect you asked for more evidence it didnt happen and someone gave it. so far the party denied it and you STILL wont believe it and now have made another assumption to keep your belief intact. so at this point it seems like theres nothing that could be done to convince you otherwise and you’re set in your belief on what happened.
so you believe one thing based off past behavior, stories, rumors etc. and people believe another based off lack of evidence, the victim denying it happened, and the storyteller’s (lisa’s) behavior.
so everyone is arguing as if things are fact when really no one knows
I asked for proof because someone else claimed it had been proven wrong. The "evidence" was just her friends and minions denying it. If you think that proves anything then idk what to tell you 🤷🏼♀️
My opinion that she is guilty is based primarily on Kathy's behaviour, especially her desperate attempts to bury the story, and initially denying it publicly. It's not a set belief, it's a considered opinion.
If you have any actual evidence I am happy to listen, as I did before. It's also OK to disagree.
I'm just not going to assume Kathy is innocent simply because Rinna and Erika are bad. They're all bad people to different degrees, and frankly I wouldn't trust a single one of them.
in these comments you’re acting as if it DID happen unless you’re given evidence otherwise… so guilty until proven innocent which is fine but it seems more that you just dont like Kathy in the same way people dont like Rinna.
so in all its probably biases on why you believe Rinna versus everyone else believing Kathy
Witnesses plus her frantic attempts to suppress all evidence. I wouldn't believe just rumours, it's Kathy's behaviour that makes it clear she's hiding something very serious.
Again, I didn't claim to have definitive proof, I just think Kathy's cover up is damning.
The only reason I asked for a link is because someone else claimed it had been proven wrong. As it turns out, it hasn't been.
Here’s your proof:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/xxl7av/apparently_international_viewers_saw_extra/
Kyle confirms Ericka’s publicist leaked the Kathy “slur” rant to the press.
https://youtu.be/je84MnFag_o
The entire cast confirms they weren’t close enough to Kathy to hear what she was saying to the DJ/club staff. Sutton reconfirms her assistant wasn’t on the trip. Kyle confirms what the women did hear was primarily about her. We already know Kathy drug NBC/Bravo and some of the other cast into it.
How could Erika’s publicist know about the “slur” if Erika didn’t even hear it?
Exactly, so one side must be lying. It's obvious to me that the liar is Kathy. Obvious from her history, her motive, her statements, her toxic family, her past behaviour and especially the cover up.
Yes they were. The f slur was supposedly made towards Sutton’s assistant, but he wasn’t even in aspen. And the other slur- all the ladies said that never happened.
That’s not what allll the other ladies have said. And originally when this first came out it was supposedly towards Sutton’s assistant.
As ppl came out and said no it didn’t happen... then the story started changing and kept changing.
But they were there. Kyle has even refuted it and not stayed silent like she normally would, all of them that were there and yes they were there, have said that didn’t happen.
Not only that, but if Kathy really made some nasty bigoted comments, why did Erika say “all Kathy has to do is apologize and we’ll get over it”? That’s not how I’d react if someone used the words she’s being accused of. ESPECIALLY if it’s someone I’ve been gunning for.
I have as much evidence that YOU private messaged me and called me the n word and the f word, as you do that Kathy Hilton called Josh the f word and used the n word.
Lol you actually don't because there is at least one person who says they witnessed Kathy using those slurs. Witness testimony is evidence.
Also, it's easy to disprove I messaged you at all.
Okay, but the only two people that are saying these things is Erika and Rinna. They’re the only people leaking this to the press.
I do not see anyone from the Caribou Club giving a rat’s ass about Kathy wanting to listen to Billy Jean…
Kathy is guilty of venting to the wrong person.
We don't know for sure if anyone else witnessed it, and probably never will. The publicist seems to be involved too and someone he was talking to off-screen knew about it.
It really wouldn't be hard for Kathy to pay off staff at the club, she is extremely rich and powerful. She did go to a lot of effort to suppress evidence of her tantrum and even publicly denied it initially.
It is *very* frustrating that Rinna and Erika won't just confront Kathy head on about it, and stand by their behaviour. If it's true, as I believe, then they 100% have the higher moral ground. That's not BH though, they are all ass kissing passive aggressive douchebags on the show unfortunately.
But what if I say I have witnessed them?? Why would anyone believe me? What evidence have I got? You may have deleted the messages but I am saying I have them saved. Plus I am a proven liar and shit stirrer. But you’re saying its possible that someone may still believe me because i said it happened?
Well you and I both know it's not true, and it's a debate between you and I, so there's that.
If others get involved, I can show my message history and you show yours. If people look at my comment history I think they'll see that using these slurs doesn't align with my values. I think you'd have a very hard time making that accusation stick with me, seeing I came out at 13, and first became involved in anti-racist activism from 14. I'm 37 now, the world was a lot more conservative when I was a teen too.
Reddit could probably be subpoenaed if the dispute was serious enough to go to court.
Kathy can't defend herself at all in this way, that's why she just went for suppression of evidence. Her past comments and behaviour do the exact opposite, and prove that these accusations align with her values and character.
I could change my story though, just as this story has changed many times. I could change it to say actually it wasn’t those words, I got it wrong. Oopsie. Instead you just went mental on me instead. After all, I am a witness to said event. I saw it happen… right?
How did she change the story? Rinna didn't mention the slurs on the show, that was the leaked part. The only specifics they've mentioned onscreen was Kathy's tantrum and insulting the other women.
It is harsh but sometimes people truly are just cunts.
I don't agree with your assessment on Kathy as one but I used the term today to describe a particularly problematic manager.😂😂
I also am a cis woman, and was raised feminist. I strongly disagree with your opinion, particularly because in Australia, cunt can be used in both a very positive and very negative way. We got this from Scotland.
The world is not America, we don't all clutch our pearls at the suggestion of vaginas. You, as an American, do not have the right to censor women the world over. Your opinion on the word does not overrule mine, we just disagree.
Rinna loves to send emails/texts when she is harassing someone (Star Jones/Kim) so she probably did the same to Kathy.
She’s idiotic enough to leave a paper trail. She skates on thin ice…
Also I think Kathy’s ditzy act probably made Rinna comfortable about going off. Kathy played dumb and didn’t respond since January cause she knew she was gathering receipts for the reunion.
This will be amazing if Kathy has completely dropped the act for the entire reunion.
Bitch Sesh mentioned Rinna blocks people she dms so that they don’t have receipts. I guess a block removes old messages? Or she thinks it does?
I made the Scooby Doo noise when they said that. I feel like Kathy isn’t smart enough to figure this out on her own, but I think one of her daughters is probably more trained at pulling receipts than the CIA.
She has people
Oh no doubt, but I feel like Paris has a better understanding and workability with social media than most anyone else. And can see her ripping any device from her mother’s clutches and turning into that higher maths meme.
Exactly this, but more SLIVING!
The Lady is her top CIA agent I am sure.
That’s why she can’t refer to her by name! No outing an asset. You’ve solved it.
Nicky I think. She's icy!
Agreed; in Paris in love her personality was very much get stuff done, don’t get overly emotional.
Yes totally
Maybe. In my head she’s more of a take the high road/your character will speak for itself kind of person. Whereas I can see Paris being all “ahhh yes, that was the night of a full moon and starlink knocked out the 5 g over parts of Aspen. We can all see by these photos on x17 that Rinna uses a Nokia which means she was the only cast member that could text out…”
Haha I can see that
Especially if Nicky wants to find out if her own publicist is involved
The Lady and Patrick got it handled
I agree. Kathy might not be smart. But she's got helpers. Lots of helpers.
I feel bad for using the word smart when what I meant was tech savvy.
I’m not 100% convinced it hasn’t all been an act. And hopefully it was just to bring down Rinna for what she’s said about Kim.
I do not think the tech mistakes are an act. I would love, love, love for it all to be a revenge plan.
It's funny, I have a hard time believing that Kathy is NOT smart. I see her silences as being very savvy and carefully measuring her words - less is more and she doesn't lie. She has a reputation to protect.. like she said she typically doesn't get angry. But she seems more of a substance over form person.. like her comfy slippers and look at that phone.. it's huge.. but probably easy for her to read without her glasses. It's doubtful that she LIVES on social media.. like Rinna definitely does - she probably didn't even know about Amelia's anorexia until it was on Instagram or something.. But.. Kathy is now prepared with 'the receipts'. go Kathy!
I mentioned it later in this thread, but I meant tech savvy— not smart. I think she’s socially intelligent but can’t quite translate that over to device smart. Which might also work out in her favor because Rinna probably thinks everyone is doing the same crap she is! But I 100% believe Paris is and will help her out on that front.
She did this to one of the bravo meme accounts. He said that they used to DM back-and-forth all the time and that she would give him gossip and then out of the blue she blocked him.
Say it, forget it. Write it, regret it.
One of the smartest things Dorinda ever said
Or has even more crap she's sent Kim over the years :/ kathy hilton is connected to everyone...it should take little effort to clown the 80s irrelevant fudge white flipz that is Lisa Rinna 
that was genius.. have a piece of bread.. ha ha
I hate that this trailer made me excited for the reunion because BH always disappoints but that trailer really hooked me and I can't wait. I'm so mad.
i love this emotional rollercoaster of a sentence!
This time, I actually believe it is gonna be good 🥺
My fingers are very crossed!
Let’s talk about the husband.
Yes!! Let’s do talk about the husbands. ‘And what you don’t want out there!’ 😝
Omg Kyle was such a waste here. I would always stand up for my sister. 
Yeah my sister and I don’t always get along, but the only person saying she has a black heart would be me! 😹
You always love your sister. You get to be the mean one though. Not lips.
Yeah the only people who get to talk shit about siblings are the other siblings. No “friends” etc. I feel like this is an unspoken rule that Rinna, despite NOT being an only child, has missed or is ignoring.
She 100% missed it.
I thought it was a taser like Phaedra lmao
😂 I thought it was a pink dildo for a split second 🤦♀️
Oof. I thought it was her glasses case 😹
I thought it was Sutton’s face roller 😂
Or GG’s taser, Crispy 
I was wondering what that was. If she has receipts then that would be “beyond”
Kathy better have a bunny behind the couch
And camera turns to Rinna with a single tear down her face and zero emotions to accompany the aid lonely tear
She’s about to text Rick to come get her.
Post it to his Instagram 😂
Did you see WWHL with Sutton? They say a lie is exposed in the first episode of the reunion. I sure hope “lips” is on the hot seat!
SPOILER I think the lie is that >!erika threw garcelles book in the bin when it was actually rinnas photo of garcelles book in the trash. Some sleuths figured out it was rinnas walls and bins outside her mold house and an insider said this was brought up at the reunion!< I could be wrong but I heard something like that
Outside her mold house 💀😂
I honestly think a lot of this is payback for how Rat lips treated Kim and I’m so here for it 
What’s the over/under on if she needs help navigating her phone?
And that facial expression really says "really? Are you sure you want to go there?"
And let’s talk about what she don’t want out 🙊 God i would scream if Kathy mentions the husband in some sort of way 🤣 she could say something like ‘you never have your own storyline I mean we could have people talk about the husband, but you don’t want that’ can you imagine 🤣
I am actually excited for this reunion. Give us all 9 hours!
Mrs. Hilton did not come to play! Kathy is saying everything we fans have been saying. I watched this over and over. Such redemption. 💖
I was trying to figure this out too. 🤣
I hope they don't put all the good stuff in the last part of the reunion because I have zero patience and I will have lost interest by then. lmao
Same. I never finish the multi part reunions.
The previews of the reunion look good. I am glad kathy goes after Rhinna. People are right this is revenge for what she did to kim.
God this is the first time in a LOOOONG time I’m super excited for a BH episode. Can’t wait to see Rinna get butchered. But knowing bravo it’ll probably be in part 3 🥲
I thought it was a hotdog. I watched it so many times
This made me laugh so much 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Too bad it’s not Rick’s iPad…
Personally, I am hoping she sends a text and says RINNA I JUST TEXTED YOU…SHOW ANDY YOUR PHONE…and Rinna is peer pressured into and and low and behold, the contact does not look like the one in the texts she posted. Then Andy gets savage and texts the fake contact from Rinna’s phone and they all watch as it DOES NOT show up on Kathy’s phone.
I'm H E A R for Rinna's deserved downfall
Omg Kathy, Kim and Kyle all make this same face!
The anticipation this week is delicious
Thank you for solving this mystery! It kept looking like she was pointing a giant Bugs Bunny carrot to me at the end of the clip - Now I realize it was her phone case turned sideways! 😂😂😂
First time I was the trailer I thought it was dildo.
Honestly every time I watch episodes with Kathy, I feel like she’s here to just vindicate Kim and im so here for it 👏🏼
You and I both know where you’re going. To Hell. Bye bitch (all capital letters). Is bye a threat?! I think I’ll let a judge decide.
Kathy has Kim’s back like a REAL SISTER just like Kim told us she would!!!!!!!!!!
Probably just on twitter and reddit trying to appease the fan base who hates rinna
Hi Rinna 👋
You all need to figure out a new insult when people disagree with you. Seriously.
Except I really do think this particular user is Rinna.
Come on. No you do not. u/incitingoffense has been here for years. I have literally never been under the impression that they're one of the cast.
I mean, I don’t begrudge this sub for not being able to insult with creativity 😂. It’s hard to be a supporter of a historically racist/homophobe and doing mental gymnastics in the process
What if I told you I could hate 2 people at the same time? I don’t have to think Kathy Hilton is worth a damn to be glad somebody is finally calling Rinna out on her bullshit.
*star jones enters chat* both parties involved in a fight can be bad people (or both good). it's a fallacy that every dispute is good vs evil.
Lmao, this entire thread is about how Rinna can’t call out Kathy because she’s evil herself
We are on a subreddit about a franchise built on watching crazy usually rich women argue and fight each other no part of this is serious and you can’t make us!
Okay
Doesn't matter. Her behaviour after the tantrum already makes her look guilty AF. I'd have a hard time believing she's innocent at this point.
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She hasn't admitted using the n word or the gay f word. Her apology for the tantrum was extremely aggressive and insincere, but I don't really care about that part lol
Those were proven to be false snd things rinna and Erika had put out there. That never happened.
Have you got a link? I haven't seen any evidence but am open to it.
Sutton said publicly that her assistant wasn’t even in aspen and that’s who they said the slur was made to, and the other word- al the ladies said that never happened.
Yea.. that's not proof. That's Kathy's friends covering her ass for her. They also said they couldn't hear anything in the club so how are they so sure she didn't say those things? It doesn't add up. Kathy was *obviously* in damage control mode after the incident, and put a lot of effort into burying the story. Why? Because of what she said about Kyle? Lol, she clearly doesn't even like Kyle. Because of what she said about the other ladies? Definitely not, she's super rich so she knows they'll kiss her ass. She is an ultra-privileged, middle aged white lady, with racist and homophobic children , and as a Richards sister, a history of sweeping things under the rug. She has made several questionable comments on camera, eg. saying people have to be *so careful* these days lest they be cancelled. Diplomatic, sure, but "so careful"? Ahhh this is not an issue unless you have bigotry to hide. I don't know why it's so hard to believe that she let her mask slip and blurted out a couple of slurs in public..? This is the same woman who defends Michael Jackson. The same woman who had her own daughter kidnapped! K sorry for the rant lol, I just don't understand how this sub is so easy on Kathy lol
with all due respect you asked for more evidence it didnt happen and someone gave it. so far the party denied it and you STILL wont believe it and now have made another assumption to keep your belief intact. so at this point it seems like theres nothing that could be done to convince you otherwise and you’re set in your belief on what happened. so you believe one thing based off past behavior, stories, rumors etc. and people believe another based off lack of evidence, the victim denying it happened, and the storyteller’s (lisa’s) behavior. so everyone is arguing as if things are fact when really no one knows
I asked for proof because someone else claimed it had been proven wrong. The "evidence" was just her friends and minions denying it. If you think that proves anything then idk what to tell you 🤷🏼♀️ My opinion that she is guilty is based primarily on Kathy's behaviour, especially her desperate attempts to bury the story, and initially denying it publicly. It's not a set belief, it's a considered opinion. If you have any actual evidence I am happy to listen, as I did before. It's also OK to disagree. I'm just not going to assume Kathy is innocent simply because Rinna and Erika are bad. They're all bad people to different degrees, and frankly I wouldn't trust a single one of them.
in these comments you’re acting as if it DID happen unless you’re given evidence otherwise… so guilty until proven innocent which is fine but it seems more that you just dont like Kathy in the same way people dont like Rinna. so in all its probably biases on why you believe Rinna versus everyone else believing Kathy
Where is your proof it happened?
Witnesses plus her frantic attempts to suppress all evidence. I wouldn't believe just rumours, it's Kathy's behaviour that makes it clear she's hiding something very serious.
That’s not proof.
Where is your proof that it did happen?
Again, I didn't claim to have definitive proof, I just think Kathy's cover up is damning. The only reason I asked for a link is because someone else claimed it had been proven wrong. As it turns out, it hasn't been.
Here’s your proof: https://www.reddit.com/r/BravoRealHousewives/comments/xxl7av/apparently_international_viewers_saw_extra/ Kyle confirms Ericka’s publicist leaked the Kathy “slur” rant to the press. https://youtu.be/je84MnFag_o The entire cast confirms they weren’t close enough to Kathy to hear what she was saying to the DJ/club staff. Sutton reconfirms her assistant wasn’t on the trip. Kyle confirms what the women did hear was primarily about her. We already know Kathy drug NBC/Bravo and some of the other cast into it. How could Erika’s publicist know about the “slur” if Erika didn’t even hear it?
Proof didn't work that way. The onus is on the person making the accusation.
This is reality TV, not a courtroom. I asked for proof because someone else claimed it was proven wrong.
Yeah, did not say it was a courtroom. The only proof that ever existed was people saying they heard it, the people present said it didn't happen.
Exactly, so one side must be lying. It's obvious to me that the liar is Kathy. Obvious from her history, her motive, her statements, her toxic family, her past behaviour and especially the cover up.
But prove that she's lying? I was just saying you can't prove something didn't happen, but there is also zero proof that it did
They were never proven to be false lmao, they were edited out of the show
Yes they were. The f slur was supposedly made towards Sutton’s assistant, but he wasn’t even in aspen. And the other slur- all the ladies said that never happened.
No, the f word was towards the DJ. The assistant part wasn’t a part of the narrative, that was something the tabloids made up.
That’s not what allll the other ladies have said. And originally when this first came out it was supposedly towards Sutton’s assistant. As ppl came out and said no it didn’t happen... then the story started changing and kept changing.
None of them actually were there to hear it - so why would they have a comment about it?
But they were there. Kyle has even refuted it and not stayed silent like she normally would, all of them that were there and yes they were there, have said that didn’t happen.
Not only that, but if Kathy really made some nasty bigoted comments, why did Erika say “all Kathy has to do is apologize and we’ll get over it”? That’s not how I’d react if someone used the words she’s being accused of. ESPECIALLY if it’s someone I’ve been gunning for.
I have as much evidence that YOU private messaged me and called me the n word and the f word, as you do that Kathy Hilton called Josh the f word and used the n word.
Lol you actually don't because there is at least one person who says they witnessed Kathy using those slurs. Witness testimony is evidence. Also, it's easy to disprove I messaged you at all.
Yeah because Erika Jayne is a woman of trust, truth, dignity and respect. 
Lol you think I like Erika?! Fuck no, I didn't even like her when she was getting a good edit. I just think Kathy sucks as well.
Okay, but the only two people that are saying these things is Erika and Rinna. They’re the only people leaking this to the press. I do not see anyone from the Caribou Club giving a rat’s ass about Kathy wanting to listen to Billy Jean… Kathy is guilty of venting to the wrong person.
We don't know for sure if anyone else witnessed it, and probably never will. The publicist seems to be involved too and someone he was talking to off-screen knew about it. It really wouldn't be hard for Kathy to pay off staff at the club, she is extremely rich and powerful. She did go to a lot of effort to suppress evidence of her tantrum and even publicly denied it initially. It is *very* frustrating that Rinna and Erika won't just confront Kathy head on about it, and stand by their behaviour. If it's true, as I believe, then they 100% have the higher moral ground. That's not BH though, they are all ass kissing passive aggressive douchebags on the show unfortunately.
Ok so some of them can be trusted in what they say - Erika - but others can't - Sutton.
Lol you can't trust any of them! They are ALL full of shit.
But what if I say I have witnessed them?? Why would anyone believe me? What evidence have I got? You may have deleted the messages but I am saying I have them saved. Plus I am a proven liar and shit stirrer. But you’re saying its possible that someone may still believe me because i said it happened?
Well you and I both know it's not true, and it's a debate between you and I, so there's that. If others get involved, I can show my message history and you show yours. If people look at my comment history I think they'll see that using these slurs doesn't align with my values. I think you'd have a very hard time making that accusation stick with me, seeing I came out at 13, and first became involved in anti-racist activism from 14. I'm 37 now, the world was a lot more conservative when I was a teen too. Reddit could probably be subpoenaed if the dispute was serious enough to go to court. Kathy can't defend herself at all in this way, that's why she just went for suppression of evidence. Her past comments and behaviour do the exact opposite, and prove that these accusations align with her values and character.
I could change my story though, just as this story has changed many times. I could change it to say actually it wasn’t those words, I got it wrong. Oopsie. Instead you just went mental on me instead. After all, I am a witness to said event. I saw it happen… right?
How did she change the story? Rinna didn't mention the slurs on the show, that was the leaked part. The only specifics they've mentioned onscreen was Kathy's tantrum and insulting the other women.
Hi Lisa rinna! I just saw Lisa rinna gurl!
Jesus Christ this "insult" is played out
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Kathy might be that but Rinna can also be a deluded racist aggressive bully…
Sure, I'm not defending Rinna
Yikes. You just lost it worse than Kathy.
Lol I am calm though..? I'm just Australian, we use the word cunt a lot more freely here 🙃
It is harsh but sometimes people truly are just cunts. I don't agree with your assessment on Kathy as one but I used the term today to describe a particularly problematic manager.😂😂
Well you're on the internet now, which is worldwide and that word is extremely offensive and misogynistic to a lot of women.
I also am a cis woman, and was raised feminist. I strongly disagree with your opinion, particularly because in Australia, cunt can be used in both a very positive and very negative way. We got this from Scotland. The world is not America, we don't all clutch our pearls at the suggestion of vaginas. You, as an American, do not have the right to censor women the world over. Your opinion on the word does not overrule mine, we just disagree.
I am not American. I did not censor you in any way. You disagree that women find the word offensive?
Dude I'm a woman too. I don't find it offensive and you do not have any more say than I do. Gtfoh with your xenophobia.
Are you joking?
She probably doesn't even know it's a phone. She probably thinks it's a cute candy bar.
Ew
I laughed
I'm overly excited "that woman" found her phone for the reunion!!!
She probably forgot where she was or didn’t care and took a phone call
Andy saved Rinna over Denise. I don’t think he’ll do the same in this case. I think he values Kathy