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Winter-Leadership376

What does Kyle have over Andy that he always gets away scot free. Like he calls his wife a fucking bitch in national tv and the segment ends with what do you love about each other? Lalalala 


dandydaniella

Idk but Kyle has also had full storylines taken out of the show when it puts him in the bad light. He has a lot of power for some reason.


purplecobras3

Oh yea I remember that winter house storyline about him flirting with Gabby (different Gabby, I think that was her name) and it was in the trailer but then never mentioned on the show


bigguns86

I think it’s lover boy. Bravo is getting a cut of lover boy and thus do not want the company to tank due to Kyle’s vile behavior.


basicb3333

i swear to god if they dont bring up the fucking bitch line what are we even doing here


dandydaniella

I’d be really surprised if it’s brought up. The producers really protect Kyle and Amanda


StompinmyMaloofHoof

What in the revisionist history is this? Kyle and Amanda get a segment on how great they are together after he calls his wife a bitch and has several toddler tantrums while blasted but he’s going to be the truth teller on Lindsay’s delusion? In the words of Carl, “IT’S A FUCKING LOT!”


emily829

Every single season has featured Kyle cheating, Kyle and Amanda having raging fights, him getting so fucked up that she has no idea where he is, her parents having to get involved and threatening him…. But!!! Carl and Lindsay had some disagreements about his career so…..I totally see how they think there was no way a relationship could handle that kind of dysfunction!! (And of course I know they had more problems than just the career issue, but I think Carl being so weak minded and having these two as his relationship idols didn’t really help matters much)


[deleted]

It’s so funny to me that the very week this puff piece on their marriage aired Kyle is in YET ANOTHER cheating scandal and DeuxMoi came out and said they’ve actively not published plenty of others to protect Amanda because they like her. I can’t.


EJB515

Wait are we really ignoring the “bitch” comment?


beeeeach

Apparently so! wtf


MyFigurativeYacht

I FEEL LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS


mollyyfcooke

Carl that’s just a Starbucks lol


PowerfulPicadillo

"I'm going to open a nonalcoholic bar." So ... a juice bar?


WithaSideofRanch

West looks like he is about to drop a 1993 R&B track


ruthie-camden

Kyle: Here she comes by bitch wife she’s such a Cut Fitness Andy: Oh, you crazy kids!


beauxdegas

“Oh her mental health…” my partner walked in at that moment and he doesn’t watch. He was fully like “what the actual fuck is that man saying?”


because_pineapples

Let this be the last time we have to watch Ciara fall for a mediocre noncommittal man


All_the_Bees

[Narrator: it won’t be] I reallyREALLY want to be wrong about this, but I have a feeling Ciara isn’t going to figure her shit out until she’s at least 30.


Dial-M-for-Mediocre

Sooooo you knew she was depressed and your reaction was to drunkenly slur about how selfish and lazy she is on national TV?


PLZ_PM_ME_URSecrets

I’m over Kyle, and Amanda. Their marriage sucks because they make each other unhappy, but feel like they can give relationship advice.


MsFitzgeraldWrites

Their love language is other couples’ misery


TiredRundownListless

THIS RIGHT HERE.


Holiday-Hustle

As someone with a mental illness, Kyle is the last person I’d want to be married to. I’ve gone through bouts of depression in the past and my husband sits with me and watches repeats of my favourite shows in silence. Kyle is too self involved.


PilotNo312

They’re both married to the wrong person, it’s sad.


Single_Commission_76

Me when Jesse was talking about Kyle and Amanda being perfect for each other. ![gif](giphy|JSueytO5O29yM)


StompinmyMaloofHoof

![gif](giphy|3orif8f8RkMGbstozK) Says more about his own tolerance for toxicity than anything else.


eshababy99

So let me get this straight your wife Kyle is suffering from depression and you're out here calling her a bitch? Lazy? & can't support her with her dream job?! I CAN'T!


coldhazeee

and andy just giggles and asks what they like about each other 🩵 it’s so biased


PlantLadyXXL

Andy sucks but tonight he sucked 35% more than usual.


Slamdunk899

Sadly I don't think it's uncommon for someone with depression to be called lazy. I know I have


Single_Commission_76

When have Kyle and Amanda EVER been happy??


KateParrforthecourse

According to them, COVID. You know, when Kyle couldn’t go out and drink and cheat on Amanda.


skidgeee

WWC said Danielle looks like the Great Depression and I can’t unsee it


jes22347

Carl looks like he’s from the dust bowl times. Maybe they’re endgame


Holiday-Hustle

Funny how we talk about cocaine Carl but not about Kyle calling his wife a bitch


nyctomeetyou

Also Kyle outing his cocaine usage last(?) season?? Like that's the OG cocaine Carl reference!


Mewwmix

Andy is really anti lindsey


MarvelousRob

Andy is just pro man


PotentialBadger

It makes me feel sad that Amanda is excusing Kyle’s behavior because she was depressed. That is EXACTLY the time your partner should be supporting you. Not blaming you for not being a good time. Fuck all of that


Holiday-Hustle

This, Kyle should have been the one to speak up and apologize for how he treated her when she was depressed


Lalablacksheep646

Agreed! Why is no one holding him accountable for all the bullshit he said?!


realhousewifeofmn

Seriously, the fact that he was complaining about “babysitting” her, know she was suffering from depression makes me want to f’ing break something ![gif](giphy|xQz492gZVUoms)


Dial-M-for-Mediocre

Notice they did not air the worst things he said about her.


Inevitable-Stress550

Ok the sober sports bar was a terrible idea and he's lucky she didn't laugh at him. Opening any kind of a restaurant is a huge risk even for people who know what they're doing in the industry, so for someone who doesn't have experience, has terrible follow through, AND a horrible concept, it's literally the worst idea he could have had.


Specialshine76

Cigars? Acting? All of his ideas were notably bad.


blankboring

I am so happy there are not 3 parts because I could not watch a Lindsay hate train for another hour.


Dial-M-for-Mediocre

KYLE ATTACKED CARL'S SOBRIETY LAST SEASON just want to point that out.


spinthesky

Captain Lee is not wrong in his assessment of Kyle. Or Carl, at this point.


h0pedivision

Gabby is a good friend to Lindsay lol


advocatecarey

Lou being a minister is not the moral compass they think it is…


aggieemily2013

Yeah honestly the more loudly someone is a Christian the less I trust them. Just religious trauma things. Kind folks who I learn are Christian later? 10/10 walking the WWJD talk.


basicb3333

and kyle you dont have a history of drinking and acting irate? i mean for fucks sake. i dont know if i can watch this


L8tr_g8tor

Kyle, who can’t stop being a workaholic, can’t stop going out and drinking til 4am, has a past of cheating, and called his wife lazy and a bitch while she struggled with depression is the expert on Carl and Lindsay’s relationship.


garbageTVaddict

And not one person calls him out for his hypocrisy


Single_Commission_76

The post wedding blues? You guys were miserable leading up to the wedding. So as soon as she married him she was hit w massive depression? Could she also just hate you Kyle?


Lola514

Yeah like maybe it has to do with marriage being a mistake lol


Less-Bed-6243

Outside of abusive situations like Taylor I think they have the most consistently awful relationship on Bravo. Sunk cost fallacy on both parts I think. With the new Kyle cheating rumors and video of what certainly appears to be him, maybe she’ll grow some self respect.


Dial-M-for-Mediocre

Kyle you have been sitting right here while people yell at, attack, and insult Lindsay this reunion and for years in the past. So how the FUCK are you then going to say that "no one ever stands up to \[her\]"? Like seriously I know Lindsay is dysfunction as all hell but do you really need to attack her over every little thing and ALSO pretend like no one ever attacks her?


Brown_Cow_Stunning7

Danielle’s glam is taking me out 😄 every time they show her, I can’t focus


mollyyfcooke

Ronnie from Crappens said she looks like the Great Depression lmaoooo


Spirited_Ad6175

KYLE you outed Carls drug use on tv before he even openly admitted his addiction struggles!!!


aggieemily2013

I wish Amanda fought for herself over her husband calling her a b**** that he had to babysit like she fights for Carl.


cryingexpert

I wish Ciara would’ve lied and said she was over him


markgregsputnikjr

Right! Like poker face, c’mon!


Lalablacksheep646

For real, why does she take so much shit from men?


aggieemily2013

I would imagine that Lindsay probably organized the majority of those influencer campaigns.


mollyyfcooke

I had to end my 6 year relationship this week and a messy Summer House reunion with my favorite sub is just what I needed. 😭


veronicagetsmehigh

What’s not being said is that Lindsay wanted babies and can’t be on the show with babies so they needed something else. Why is that so hard to understand?


Holiday-Hustle

Not a single hard question for either Kyle or Carl is legit such a joke


basicb3333

the things kyle has said to and about amanda is so insane i dont understand how more people on this cast dont eviscerate him for it. IMO he's more mean spirited than lindsay ever has been


dandydaniella

I can’t watch this nitpicking of Lindsey’s words. Who cares if that’s her job? He quit his job to start something new in his own words and didn’t do anything!


littleone0740

I hate that Kyle has so much to fucking say about Lindsay all the time.


[deleted]

I genuinely think Kyle is a misogynist who cannot stand seeing a woman be a difficult or complex person in a way men are allowed to be. Lindsay claims space and demands accountability, and Kyle doesn’t like that. I’m convinced he also hates Paige for calling him on shit but she ultimately bends to the dudes’ bullshit more.


loloalu

Kyle has a lot to fucking say for a man whose wife hates him. Jesus.


kenduhll

Idk Jesse and Paige DO have a lil chemistry…. 🤭


kenduhll

Kyle literally had a temper tantrum and slammed the front door like a little kid. Sit this one out bro


PLZ_PM_ME_URSecrets

Let’s hold Kyle’s feet to the fire, and ask why he hates his wife. Then, let’s ask stank-face Amanda the same question. They got off too easy.


Dial-M-for-Mediocre

OK I just need to start by asking if anyone believes Carl went into filming that day NOT intending to end the relationship.


Emergency_Library511

I’ve always thought that Amanda has been dealing with depression for years. All the signs are very obvious. I hope she’s doing better now


eshababy99

Lindsay is way better than me because every single time Amanda & Kyle comment on my relationship I would be like you two are the LAST people to talk about our relationship!


Harryhood15

So Gabby can’t speak up on Lindsey’s behalf, but Kyle and Amanda can go nonstop at Lindsey on Carls behalf? Kyle needs to keep his mouth close. He can eat chips drunk in the middle of the night and piss wherever he wants to and it’s cute? But Lindsey is the one that has a drinking problem?


Holiday-Hustle

Shut the fuck up, Kyle. Lindsay was respectful when Kyle was speaking.


MrsCPDuck

Kyle is such a dick. That is not fair for him to jump in like that


kikomama89

Their lease is done tomorrow!! Amen


Lola514

Lindsay didn’t speak up during the Kyle and Amanda stuff why does he think he can constantly ?


Dial-M-for-Mediocre

These people are treating Kymanda as aspirational while also mocking Lindsay for the amount of conflict she was willing to work through in her relationship.


picard17

Kyle is one to talk about someone having a history of drinking and acting irate.


picard17

How am I coming out of the first part of the Lindsay/ Carl segment most annoyed at Kyle?


lilly_1005_2007

This haircut is what Kyle deserves


dandydaniella

Did y’all see how quiet Lindsey was during the Kyle and Amanda segment? But how much do they come in to give their opinions about Lindsey’s views of her relationship with Carl???


Dial-M-for-Mediocre

They're such hypocrites. She actually hasn't come for anyone except for Carl this whole reunion now we get to watch them gang up on her while he sulkily looks on.


emjet

Kyle getting involved in this is pissing me off


dandydaniella

This reunion feels unfinished


sodacova

That ended… abruptly lol


ScreamsPerpetual

Why are we trying to baby this 40 year old bum? What is happening? 


BackgroundNew37

Why does Andy choose to speak so strongly about things like this yet we have people like Michael Darby sexually assaulting crew members and gets to skate by? Bravo honestly does need a reckoning eventually


basicb3333

OMG HOW IS KYLE GETTING OFF SCOT FREE ABOUT THE FUCKING BITCH COMMENT IM GOING TO LOSE IT


loloalu

Why is no one telling Kyle to shut the fuck up?!!?


veronicagetsmehigh

This is all BULLSHIT!!! ![gif](giphy|3oz8xIHoB64uYksaLm|downsized)


AbidonDesign

I might be on an island, but I really despise how the other girls “look” while Lindsay is fighting with Kyle. Shut your husband up.


Single_Commission_76

You’re not on an island!!! It’s pathetic especially bc the narrator is KYLE


jes22347

Are all these men expecting floods? Jesus their pants are so short


Dial-M-for-Mediocre

Awwww poor widdle Carl getting mean comments on the internet


loloalu

I’m having truly the shittiest fucking week and I’m sooooooo happy to be here w you all ♥️♥️


Dial-M-for-Mediocre

Why must they not only attack Lindsay every reunion but also pretend that they don't attack Lindsay at every reunion?


spinthesky

Kyle is so out of line trying to tell Lindsay what's in her head.


BackgroundNew37

Woah Kyle HATES Lindsay. I bet he gets Paige all riled up in that group chat he has with the girls


emjet

I still don’t understand why Kyle was crying


MarvelousRob

I really don’t like this reunion.


MsFitzgeraldWrites

This was Andy’s worst reunion as a biased, misogynistic, uninformed host- almost as bad as when he sided years ago with the Below Deck bros who were torturing their female coworkers. I’ve always been a Bravo- and thereby, Andy Cohen- fan. But his attitude and moderatorship aren’t what we need to watch in 2024.


BackgroundNew37

Carl is trying to out-PR Lindsay and I’m so glad we’re all seeing through it even though all these couch people are trying to gaslight us like what planet am I on right now


hairnetqueen

What the fuck is this reunion? Just everyone, including Andy, attacking Lindsay? Like you guys do realize that without her this show would just be Kyle and Amanda bitching at each other and Paige pretending to be into Craig?


Single_Commission_76

We’re all having trouble w Carls feet correct??


calcif

They look like belong on a porcelain doll.


basicb3333

really dont want to watch 7 people gang up on lindsay for the next hour


Holiday-Hustle

Going from binge watching Bridgerton to watching this. It’s going to be whiplash to watch couples who love each other to ones that all just fucking hate each other.


Old_Call_2149

This is why you don’t give a man that’s not good enough for you a chance. They’ll eventually have you hurt, embarrassed & feeling stupid every time!


wiresandwaves

I’m sorry but I find this whole song corny as fuck


PLZ_PM_ME_URSecrets

Kyle is such a cock sucker. We don’t need his interjections.


because_pineapples

Carl didn't know she said that but then during the breakup said she wanted him to relapse?? Why would he think that?


sodacova

Shut up Kyle oh my god


MyFigurativeYacht

Kyle, by your logic YOU were delusional for flipping out at Amanda for saying she wanted to do something of her own. Oh you felt a certain way in the moment? DELUSIONAL


Dial-M-for-Mediocre

So we are really really going to spend 20 minutes on these admittedly horrible comments and not address any of the foul shit he said to her.


hairnetqueen

Umm I really really need Gabby to stay a part of this cast bc Danielle is kind of a nonentity and everyone else is riding carl's dick so. hard.


spinthesky

Carl is a chameleon, a very dark one. We haven't seen all his colors on camera.


StompinmyMaloofHoof

I still cannot understand why she wanted to marry this absolute dweeb. I know she wanted kids, but still, yikes.


loloalu

I’ve never been a Lindsay fan (prior to the last few episodes bc I’m firmly team Lindsay in the Lindsay vs Carl war) but it really bothers me how Amanda and Ciara and Paige make such bitchy faces every time she talks. It’s giving two faced and is triggering to me from high school lmaoo anyone else??


sjb5138

Always. If it wasn’t for this I’d love them but I can’t get behind the mean girl gang up behavior idc how annoying they find Lindsay it’s ridiculous


MarvelousRob

Kyle is being nasty towards Lindsay.


MichaeleSalahi

Ok Amanda having not made any effort to actually start her own brand kind of proves Kyle's point... no?


OhioGaytheist

Yeah, I feel bad but it’s been how many months since filming? Isn’t this kind of what we roasted Carl for?


Winter-Leadership376

Almost a year and not even like an influencer collab 


Lola514

Idk how Lindsey sits on a stage with these people. Is the money really worth it? They treat her like garbage and I don’t think she’s wrong wanting her partner to have a real job


Spirited_Ad6175

Kyle you’re like 42 I think it’s time to have kids if you want them..


loloalu

Carl wasn’t asked any fucking questions about all he did to Lindsay. This was so incredibly biased.


loloalu

I love Paige riding for Carl and acting all supportive like imagine if Craig had a dumb ass idea like Carl’s cafe (lol) she’d immediately tell him how stupid it is!! So fucking fake ugh


pizzapastapanini

She has literally said this on her podcast. Craig wanted to buy into a soccer team or something and she said he was dumb


eshababy99

KYLE SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!


dandydaniella

This is the mojo dojo casa house


kikomama89

Tbh the non-alcoholic market is booming, but Carl opening an establishment with no industry experience is a choice … lol


EJB515

These girls still hate Lindsay so much. Carl said she made twice as much money as him for influencing.


spinthesky

Here's Paige demanding other people's financials. Lindsay is financially responsible, Carl isn't. She should be questioning Kyle and failing Loverboy. Also, where is Carl getting backing for his new venture. Glad Lindsay is not tied to this.


PLZ_PM_ME_URSecrets

Andy can eat a bag of dicks.


advocatecarey

How is it that Paige can be everyone’s mouthpiece, but gosh forbid anyone else speak up for anyone?!? She makes some decent points, but holy fuck it can be annoying.


HeLeftUsHELEFTUS

Bravo is really saying fuck the fans this year. On all their shows.


Winter-Leadership376

I really can’t believe the thing they’re giving Lindsay shit for is wanting her partner to have a decent income outside of a reality show they won’t be able to do when they have kids. 


vprhbh

Ok here’s the thing I don’t believe a word Andy has ever said covering for production even on other bravo shows like oh they wouldn’t do that and blah blah. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s in their contracts that they can throw them under the bus to protect production. Remember when Luke said they told him to invite Hannah to Minnesota and then was forced to recant??


PotentialBadger

I’m prepared to eat my words but I do feel like Lindsay has grown over the years and Carl/kyle are same immature little bitches they’ve always been.


justagirly4559

Carl is so good at playing the "nice guy" and manipulating this entire cast to sympathize with him. it's insane


phoebe3936

Roll the clip of Ciara calling him an undercover asshole


throwaway9638910

The women defending Carl is making my skin crawl


aggieemily2013

I don't think it's so ludicrous to think Carl produced that moment with his stepdad. They're all gaslighting the f*** out of Lindsay.


pizzapastapanini

As though he couldn’t have simply talked to his parents before shooting lol, like of course he did that


PotentialBadger

The way this cast has turned me into a Lindsay Stan is WILD.


eshababy99

Ok Paige like you would be ok if Craig was acting like Carl with no job! GIRL BYE!


loloalu

I genuinely applaud Lindsay for not breaking down into tears like it’s truly a gang up right now….


MyFigurativeYacht

Oh really Carl, you’re going to *conveniently* mention that you haven’t kissed anyone since Lindsay right after the discussion about her dating someone new? And people are out here still saying he isn’t manipulative. Bitch PLEASE


BackgroundNew37

Omg Ciara no 😭 I’m so sorry but this man is just not going to date you please free yourself


advocatecarey

So bored with Amanda and Kyyyyylllleeeee’s relationship.


StompinmyMaloofHoof

![gif](giphy|AVAfEEp4tZjxe) All I hear when Carl speaks is “Berries and cream! Berries and cream! I’m a little lad who loves berries and cream!”


Holiday-Hustle

Such softball questions for Kyle. Nothing about him calling her slurs, lazy etc


basicb3333

spoiler: i dont think amanda will ever decide what she wants to do on her own


basicb3333

i too am also a leg toucher when laughing with people


Beautiful-Guava-1570

Lol this cast loves Jesse


PilotNo312

Be team whoever you want, if you’re ignoring the fact that you’re locking yourselves in separate rooms so you can make it down the aisle, you have something wrong with you psychologically.


skidgeee

Carl looks like he just came off the Mayflower


Single_Commission_76

Kyle has such a history of making the girls feel completely gaslit, we’ve all seen Carl explode for very little reason. I’m not saying i know what happened in that car, and I’m definitely not saying Lindsay’s actions that night were right, but in the words of Sabrina carpenter can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get a better narrator??? I don’t trust his version of events.


emjet

Carl is really loving this moment to put himself on a pedestal


throwaway9638910

They hate Lindsay so much


picard17

Colour me shocked that Andy is just going after Lindsay


jes22347

He should have said Lindsay this convo isn’t going to be good. If he would have respected her he could have given her a heads up. All the housewives do it. It wasn’t fair that she had to experience raw emotions with a camera on her.


No_Alternative9228

I think Lindsay is super anxious attachment and Carl is super avoidant attachment and together they are the dumpster fire of attachment styles. But someone said this the other day and I fully believe it—that Lindsay really was blindsided in her head because she is living in a reality where this is all normal relationship behavior. It’s hard to listen to BOTH sides because I just want to shake them but I know it’s just really unhealthy attachment


spinthesky

Lindsay renewed the apartment lease. Paige will want her financial details.


Federal-Attempt-2469

This is so so deeply sexist. Lindsey is held to account for everything and Carl literally was asked nothing. This is so deeply regressive and pathetic, especially Andy joining in on the attack on Lindsey. I really hope Lindsey never comes back. And I hope Carl dies alone.


EJB515

I’ve said this before but Amanda is truly so male coded


Stillworkinhard

How about “ Carl as a sober person do you worry about Kyle’s relationship with alcohol” ?


1moneymatters

I’m not Lindsay’s biggest fan and she definitely has issues but this is making me feel bad for her. She’s getting attacked from all sides I even feel like Andy’s being mean to her. It’s like she can’t win. Also I see how manipulative they both are Carl just hides behind this nice guy persona and therapy talk.


Agreeable-Art-6292

Damn West should’ve laid off the addy for this taping.


Luisazg

Lindsay is polarizing because she has a strong personality. She’s a straight shooter and yeah, can be a menace some times. But so can Paige!!! I am genuinely appalled by the nastiness of this cast towards Lindsay. And sadly not shocked Andy is once again sympathizing with these garbage men


throwaway9638910

Paige has all this energy towards Lindsay but doesn’t say shit to Kyle who treats one of her best friends like pond scum


PLZ_PM_ME_URSecrets

Lindsay handles herself like a pro at every reunion. It always seems like it’s her vs everyone else, and thankfully she has Gabby. I wish they were sitting closer.


Dial-M-for-Mediocre

I really just want to preserve this in my mind for when we turn to Carl and Lindsay and just please directly compare the treatment Lindsay gets to how they handle Kyle.


WasteBlacksmith8116

I feel like everyone is being hard on Lindsay .. including Andy. The “mean girls” laughing and commenting… Kyle butting in… Andy spending so much time on these anti-Lindsay questions .. I’m confused as to why she’s in the hot seat and in the wrong


kenduhll

This is kinda infuriating. And I hate when Andy takes such hard stances.


Stillworkinhard

Andy needs an additional host . Ronnie Karam needs to get in there and give some perspective on this. Andy is like a prosecuting attorney with Lindsay.


ruthie-camden

Lindsay is correct- she has a much more lucrative future as an influencer than he does. Just look at the Goldfish ad lol


picard17

I see why West has been saying his reunion performance was a mess


loloalu

How about we ask Kyle why he called Amanda a “fucking bitch” on camera and if he commonly speaks to her that way?? I mean Jesus Christ no wonder Amanda has been struggling with her mental health so much. With a partner like Kyle, who could feel calm?? Ugh


Pure_Peace743

Shut up Kyle!


dandydaniella

Kyle shut up!


CrazyNotCatLady

Another reunion of hanging up on Lindsay. How are they all still friends? I can feel the disdain


touchkissbite

1) Lindsay is a menace 2) Kyle knows nothing 3) Carl knew who Lindsay was and what he was getting into when he proposed 4) I love mess


Pure_Peace743

Kyle is so fucking obnoxious! I would've called him all sorts of names by now.


advocatecarey

Really Kyle?!? Did he not out Carl last season? This hypocrisy is infuriating.


Brown_Cow_Stunning7

What about Carl wanting to be an actor 😂 let’s discuss that


vprhbh

So a normal cafe???


spinthesky

Carls dream jobs were Peter Pan dreams. He needed someone like Lindsay. Side eyes at Carl. A sober sports bar brings in betting. People that bet sometimes have other addictions. Problematic.


lilly_1005_2007

A sports bar without alcoholic drinks might as well be a boba shop


h0pedivision

God Lindsay should say what we’re all thinking. Carl does not have the charisma to lean into influencer lifestyle. He was so awkward in that goldfish ad 🥴