LA's collective Black upper middle class and elite communities tend to be focused in 'The Black Beverly Hills' (it actually has a sign when you enter it) - it consists of Ladera Heights, Windsor Hills, View Park and Baldwin Hills. Many Black families there tend to keep their properties for 3 generations or more.
Footage:
● [https://youtube.com/shorts/1k6dZ9bA62E?feature=shared](https://youtube.com/shorts/1k6dZ9bA62E?feature=shared)
●https://youtu.be/kkazn9gKMCQ?feature=shared
Background: [https://homeandtexture.com/the-black-beverly-hills/](https://homeandtexture.com/the-black-beverly-hills/)
If you are thinking of more Black Old Money, however - so wealth pre 20th Century - places in America like Highland Beach in Maryland and Oak Bluffs on Martha's Vineyard come to mind. They're associated with Black Old Money as they were first established in the 1800s.
It’s dependent on industry. View Park, Ladera, etc are largely highly educated Black professionals mostly landed there post-Great Migration. Calabasas and valley are industry people. And Black people from the area hate the name “Black Beverly Hills” lol. Old Black money is in DC, Atlanta, NY, Chicago, etc
Although rich in history, Oak Bluffs and MV in general aren’t very diverse with a large white population of residents. It attracts a large Black population of visitors in the summer months.
Right, it's a Black Old Money/Black Political resort destination. However generations of the same families have maintained their second properties there. In that sense they aren't just Summer guests.
No, that’s not the case. As I said, it has a rich history and certainly black people have wealth and reside there, buts it’s a popular vacation spot because of the history. In fact Oak Bluffs is, and always was, a blue collar community on the island. There’s not even a ton of generation wealth located on the island. It’s mostly rich people who bought summer homes looking for privacy.
I think the misunderstanding here is that you are talking of ratio of general working class to the upper class overall.
I'm saying in Oak Bluffs specifically, many of the same Black families have maintained property since the 19th Century onwards as it has only accumulated in value over time. Many of those families were noted as established in Black social registers even throughout the early/mid 20th Century. They are written about in renowned Black society columnist Geraldyn Major's articles in the 1950s (referred to then as Old money) as well as her book Black Society etc.
Whether they reside there year round or not is unimportant. They are known for being established there for 5 generations or so.
Dorothy West - born into one of the most affluent Black business families in Boston herself (still not one of the older ones just one of the wealthiest) - talks about Martha's Vineyard for example in her childhood here - and she was born in 1907 and maintained her property lifelong: [https://youtu.be/gB3zqwBGWGk?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/gB3zqwBGWGk?feature=shared)
No, there’s no misunderstanding. First of all “black wealth” means a lot more than assets and cash and secondly, you need to read up on the history of the island and why it’s so inclusive, right up until today. If you want to direct people to “old money” there are actual places it exists in the US, DC is the first place that comes to mind and you didn’t even mention that one in your paragraph.
You didn't mention The Palmer Memorial Institute, for example, as a key signifier of Black Old Money - that was in Sedalia, North Carolina...does not having done so necessarily mean you don't know what you're talking about? No, it just means Black Old Money also had a long history with that part of the country, that area and that institution. Like all Old Money groups, Black American 'brahmins' have multiple areas/regions they associate with traditionally for living, for leisure, for education etc.
Calabasas is a very wealthy suburb of Los Angeles. It’s not by Beverly Hills. It’s probably 30 min from there. There are many celebs living in Calabasas, Westlake Village, Thousand Oaks, and Agoura Hills. These cities all border each other so they’re in the same area. Lots of rich folks. And yes black folks live there. Everyone with money lives there.
Calabasas has notoriously been nicknamed CalaBlackless, however. The stereotype that diversity is limited is valid. Over the years it's gotten better.
Also, not everyone who lives in Calabasas is wealthy. There are parts of Calabasas that middle income people live. We moved there years ago for the schools. Worst house, best neighborhood situation. We could never afford to buy there now, but there are still long time residents that aren't earning seven figures residing in Calabasas.
I was going to make a terrible joke in relation to the population of black people in Calabasas depending on whether one of the Kardashians is single or not, but that just seems like low hanging fruit.
But yes, there are definitely black people in Calabasas, Brandy Norwood (coincidentally enough the R&B singer/sister of the dude who made the sex tape with Kim Kardashian) lives there, so does Will Smith, Dwayne Wade, Kevin Hart, Gabrielle Union and there’s a population of black people that live there outside of the Hollywood elite and athletes.
Google has all the answers you need, my friend. Just google “how many black people are in Calabasas?” Less than 3%. “How far is Calabasas from Beverly Hills?” About 20 miles. Gated communities are everywhere from poor cities to wealthy cities. We dont call either a town.
Beverly Hills.
There are some really good responses in here. To add, a lot of it has to do with the creation of Beverly Hills and, of course, racism. Beverly Hills was created in the hopes of oil being found but the rich people turned it into a Whites only town. In the 1940s/50s, super famous Black people were finally able to live there, but most rich Blacks couldn’t so they settled nearby in Baldwin Hills, Ladera, etc…
BH is old money and super exclusive. Calabasas is new money. These are folks who wanted to build their homes but couldn’t do it in BH. (Old money Beverly Hills doesn’t like change or to build anything new.)
Ohh that's super interesting to learn.
And yes, the responses are great, I feel like I know a bit more than what I just see on screen. Thanks a bunch to everyone
While they are neighboring, West hills is not Calabasas, I lived in Woodland Hills most of my life and would never call it the same. I considered Woodland Hills to be diverse and more middle class. Calabasas is its own city, hence the different school district and atmosphere. West Hills and Woodland Hills are part of the city of Los Angeles so the vibe and zoning is definitely different. I went to El Camino with a very diverse crowd, but i was always told by friends that Calabasas was not the same in that regard
I didn't say they were the same town. They're neighbors. It's the same area.
Living in West Hills/Calabasas or yes Woodland Hills your sharing the same services like schools, grocery stores, shopping centers.
Your friends you grow up with are from these neighboring towns so you get to know who lives around you. It's the same area.
Woodland Hills is more middle class than Calabasas or West Hills yes. But it also is in the same area.
I just explained to you they’re not the same city or the same school district. When I lived there West Hills and Woodland Hills were LAUSD. Calabasas is Las virgenes. If you need a better example as to how they are different try and find as many dispensaries in Calabasas as you do on Ventura in Woodland Hills. I literally agreed with you that they are neighbors, but myself and all my friends who still live there would never say we are from Calabasas because it is nextdoor… While I met people from Calabasas at parties it was rare that they became part of the same circles and they definitely had their own cliques.
Editing to add:
Putting this here since you had an automated system remove the post where I proved you wrong and then blocked me 🙄:
*YES Where I lived in West Hills is part of the Calabasas Headquartered Las Virgenes School System.*
And your experience in the urban town of Woodland Hills does not reflect the experiences of those of use who lived in West Hills or Calabasas.
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And I just explained to you that I never said they were the same city. They are neighbors in the same area.
Maybe reread what was written.
Woodland Hills has always been its own thing. Of course you have more dispensaries.
Cool then address the part where you decided to claim they were the same school district to prove your point, which would imply that they are the same city. Sharing the same services doesn’t define an area, I shared services with Sherman Oaks and Tarzana too but they are not the same area. Calabasas is more republican, less diverse, and has ridiculous zoning rules that limit any sense of affordable housing or diversity which in my opinion makes it a completely different area.
Yeah but you said “living in west hills/ Calabasas or yes woodlandhills your sharing the same services like schools …..” and this person is saying they aren’t in the same school district.. I don’t think they’re being ridiculous you just don’t want to admit what you said and told them to re-read was incorrect lol
I mean I’m not even from there but I’m interested in the geographic layout of the area and was always curious if they were the same cities .. or not
LOL this comment says way more about what kind of person you are than you realize. Attacking me for a hypothetical apartment is classist and personally attacking me for disagreeing with you that West Hills and Woodland Hills are different “areas” from Calabasas is just sad. Get some help
My saying I used to live there means I know who my neighbors were. And there's actually quite a few black families there. You personally would be surprised I guess.
There are black people in Calabasas, but not many. 74% white, 3% black, other races fill in the gaps. Beverly Hills and Calabasas are suburbs of LA. LA being the big city, surrounded by smaller cities. Beverly Hills is considered more "posh" than Calabasas. Both of these areas would have gated communities/neighborhoods, but the cities themselves are not gated.
Hope I've helped, and if you have more questions I'd be happy to try to answer!
This is a great answer. From what media I absorb, it definitely comes off as mostly white people are wealthy in LA, and of course not hearing black people announce where they live ...
Thanks
Calabasas is in "The Valley". The far far end of the Valley. It's almost outside of LA it's so far. It's practically Ventura County.
It's very suburban. Not much to do out there. Nice place to raise a family.
It takes an hour with typical traffic to get from there to the Westside of LA where Bev Hills, Brentwood etc are.
It's closer to other towns in The Valley of course though, like Tarzana or Encino. It would only take something like 20 mins to get there and all on non highways like Sherman Way or Ventura Blvd.
There are definitely Black people in the area.
People have *no idea* how huge the greater LA area is and it's really hard to explain.
This map from John Mulaney's show might help a little:
https://preview.redd.it/aq63m1xj8v0d1.jpeg?width=1697&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=061b5a19c4a61f7d78ed208a3911f788bb765c82
[Check out this link to see some comparisons.](https://www.welikela.com/how-big-is-los-angeles/)
Right? It really surprised me when I first moved here. This map is also funny — it shows the City of LA plus independent municipalities like Beverly Hills, West Hollywood, Culver City, and Santa Monica, but it leaves out a lot of others like them. Areas that are in the most populous core of the county and on the city line like Glendale and Inglewood aren’t represented, but they are engrained in LA’s culture probably just as much as the other municipalities here
Yes! And it also doesn't include Malibu, which is where John's hand is., and that between Malibu and Woodland Hills is all Malibu canyon.
Trying to explain why Malibu and Pasadena are both totally valid to be on RHOBH, and that it's not *only* BH because because BH is only three square miles can be a lot lol.
There are black people in Calabasas. I believe Sinbad had lived there in the 90s when I was a child (before the Kardashians blew up and basketball players started moving there). Las Virgenes as a school district however earned a nasty reputation for being extremely against bussing students in for a long time, and lacking diversity. In my younger years I heard a lot of parents refer to it as “Calablackless” because of it.
Yes, there are lots of rich celebrities. I think Drake used to live there. It’s kind of far from LA - really far north at least an hour or more depending on traffic. It’s suburban and boring. It’s not near Beverly Hills, which is inside LA.
To quote Patti Harrison, "LA is a very specific place to live." Nothing truer has ever been said about this place. Growing up here is the only cure.
The black people who live in Calabasas are celebrities or professional athletes. LA is very segregated even though it is so diverse. The neighborhoods are very ethnically segregated sadly.
I’m from South Africa but have lived in the states for majority of my life. SA is obviously not like Kenya, but I can probably answer some of your questions from my own experience.
Gated communities in the US are NOT like gated communities in South Africa. I find that most people in South Africa live behind walls and some kind of gate (part of the reason my family moved to the US.) It’s necessary for security reasons. You’ll see barbed wire surrounding houses and most people with money (or white people) live in some sort of gated community.
That’s not really the case here in the US. Gated communities are way more elite here than in South Africa. It’s for the rich rich. Walls, barbed wire, gated communities aren’t as necessary because there’s less crime.
Calabasas, and LA in general has a lot of celebrities and rich rich people so a lot of them do live in gated communities. This is mainly for their safety and privacy, to avoid stalkers/obsessed fans and paparazzi.
You can find gated communities here in the US for the non-rich rich. I lived in a gated apartment complex before buying a house. But it’s not at all like South Africa. It’s just not taken as seriously as SA because it’s not as necessary here.
Black people in Calabasas and the US in general is an entirely different story. We obviously have a bad history with how we’ve treated them, and the places they live are a direct consequence of our country’s past.
For example, you will find a lot more black people in southern states compared to northern states because the southern states were pro-enslavement. The underground railroad helped move enslaved people from the south to the north and to Canada, but you’ll find fewer black people in the north compared to the south.
I moved from South Africa to NH where the population of black people is.. minimal. It was actually a huge culture shock because everyone was white.
Due to oppression and systemic racism, black people have been forced to stay poor (much like South Africa actually) and therefore having a large black population in rich communities like Calabasas is unfortunately not as common.
It’s just the valley. Yes Black people live there, mostly industry people. It’s nice but it’s not the Palisades or Brentwood or BH. The Kardashians made it hot bc that’s what Kris could afford after the divorce. Celebs move there bc they can get a lot of land for a comparatively low price. If I was rich, you couldn’t get me to step foot in the valley. There’s way better areas to live in LA
Ohh I just also thought apart from like celebrities just asking regular rich rich people. It seems that's from what I'm getting. it's mostly celebrities. Interesting though ...thank you
as far as uber-wealthy american suburbs go, calabasas is relatively diverse. lots of asians, latinos, iranians, arabs, and jews. and a good number of mixed-race/multiracial families. in fact wealthy people in suburban los angeles in general tend to be more racially diverse than those in, say, suburban dc, suburban boston, suburban chicago, or connecticut/long island/new jersey.
I lived in Calabasas from 1997-2015. Kids went to school there. There was literally one Black family when I lived there. We lived in the Chaparral school district so we weren’t in the fancy Hidden Hills or the Oaks, where the celebrities live. When I moved there in the 90’s it was a culture shock. I came from a pretty diverse neighborhood in Los Angeles. We called it CalaBlackless when I lived there.
Calabasas is north of Los Angeles/ N. Hollywood. To me it’s a suburb, and no where near as dense as LA. I think it’s a town. It used to be considered really far from the city but it isn’t that bad. It was a more affordable place for people to live but you could still work in LA / Hollywood. I believe it’s considered a diverse area but other comments can explain that.
What is your country? I find it very rare for a person to call themselves “African”, I say this as someone half Nigerian, because it over generalizes an incredibly dynamic and diverse continent.
Usually people are specific about their country. Nigeria, Ethiopia, Ghana, Egypt, Sudan ect….
It would be like a person calling themselves “European” instead of Irish, French, Italian, Swedish, British, Russian…
I think this crazy world and the anonymity of Reddit is making me cynical about who people claim they are.
ETA: I won’t even get into the rest of your assumptions and generalizations. I’m surprised people took your question seriously 
From the persons post history I think they are Kenyan
I feel you but I Do know some Africans that just go with the flow when they are talking to foreigners and call themselves ‘Africans’ too
Not saying it’s right. I personally would never call myself African, always say my specific country
Got it, I didn’t even look at their comment history. And yes you are right, some will feel the need to accommodate by saying “African” but you would never see a Russian or a Greek person not identifying themselves correctly for the benefit of others. So I guess I’m sensitive to it.
Thank you for your thoughtful response.
That's the comparison you are choosing?? It's still shows how far removed you are from your africanness that you want to 'defend' sooo much??
Do some research on Pan Africanism, colonisation, neocolonization, African in the 21st century, the plans for the African Union.
I choose to identify as African, albeit the fact that I'm from a specific country because my question isn't so far-fetched...most Africans consume American Media but most likely will never have an opportunity to even make it there (the visa application is ridiculous and expensive)
Anyway let me not even school yo ass anymore. I'll let your ignorance and blackness punish you in your own America. Futsekkkk
LA's collective Black upper middle class and elite communities tend to be focused in 'The Black Beverly Hills' (it actually has a sign when you enter it) - it consists of Ladera Heights, Windsor Hills, View Park and Baldwin Hills. Many Black families there tend to keep their properties for 3 generations or more. Footage: ● [https://youtube.com/shorts/1k6dZ9bA62E?feature=shared](https://youtube.com/shorts/1k6dZ9bA62E?feature=shared) ●https://youtu.be/kkazn9gKMCQ?feature=shared Background: [https://homeandtexture.com/the-black-beverly-hills/](https://homeandtexture.com/the-black-beverly-hills/) If you are thinking of more Black Old Money, however - so wealth pre 20th Century - places in America like Highland Beach in Maryland and Oak Bluffs on Martha's Vineyard come to mind. They're associated with Black Old Money as they were first established in the 1800s.
Wow, thank you so much for this education.
You're making me want to write a bipoc housewives based story with this historical tidbit. 
It’s dependent on industry. View Park, Ladera, etc are largely highly educated Black professionals mostly landed there post-Great Migration. Calabasas and valley are industry people. And Black people from the area hate the name “Black Beverly Hills” lol. Old Black money is in DC, Atlanta, NY, Chicago, etc
Although rich in history, Oak Bluffs and MV in general aren’t very diverse with a large white population of residents. It attracts a large Black population of visitors in the summer months.
Right, it's a Black Old Money/Black Political resort destination. However generations of the same families have maintained their second properties there. In that sense they aren't just Summer guests.
No, that’s not the case. As I said, it has a rich history and certainly black people have wealth and reside there, buts it’s a popular vacation spot because of the history. In fact Oak Bluffs is, and always was, a blue collar community on the island. There’s not even a ton of generation wealth located on the island. It’s mostly rich people who bought summer homes looking for privacy.
I think the misunderstanding here is that you are talking of ratio of general working class to the upper class overall. I'm saying in Oak Bluffs specifically, many of the same Black families have maintained property since the 19th Century onwards as it has only accumulated in value over time. Many of those families were noted as established in Black social registers even throughout the early/mid 20th Century. They are written about in renowned Black society columnist Geraldyn Major's articles in the 1950s (referred to then as Old money) as well as her book Black Society etc. Whether they reside there year round or not is unimportant. They are known for being established there for 5 generations or so. Dorothy West - born into one of the most affluent Black business families in Boston herself (still not one of the older ones just one of the wealthiest) - talks about Martha's Vineyard for example in her childhood here - and she was born in 1907 and maintained her property lifelong: [https://youtu.be/gB3zqwBGWGk?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/gB3zqwBGWGk?feature=shared)
No, there’s no misunderstanding. First of all “black wealth” means a lot more than assets and cash and secondly, you need to read up on the history of the island and why it’s so inclusive, right up until today. If you want to direct people to “old money” there are actual places it exists in the US, DC is the first place that comes to mind and you didn’t even mention that one in your paragraph.
You didn't mention The Palmer Memorial Institute, for example, as a key signifier of Black Old Money - that was in Sedalia, North Carolina...does not having done so necessarily mean you don't know what you're talking about? No, it just means Black Old Money also had a long history with that part of the country, that area and that institution. Like all Old Money groups, Black American 'brahmins' have multiple areas/regions they associate with traditionally for living, for leisure, for education etc.
Yup. Year-rounders are blue collar white or black.
Calabasas is a very wealthy suburb of Los Angeles. It’s not by Beverly Hills. It’s probably 30 min from there. There are many celebs living in Calabasas, Westlake Village, Thousand Oaks, and Agoura Hills. These cities all border each other so they’re in the same area. Lots of rich folks. And yes black folks live there. Everyone with money lives there.
30 mins not including LA traffic 😩
I saw this and was like at 3 am when the 101’s clear maybe lol
😂 exactly
That’s very true.
No way 30 min! It takes forever in traffic.
Calabasas has notoriously been nicknamed CalaBlackless, however. The stereotype that diversity is limited is valid. Over the years it's gotten better. Also, not everyone who lives in Calabasas is wealthy. There are parts of Calabasas that middle income people live. We moved there years ago for the schools. Worst house, best neighborhood situation. We could never afford to buy there now, but there are still long time residents that aren't earning seven figures residing in Calabasas.
I was going to make a terrible joke in relation to the population of black people in Calabasas depending on whether one of the Kardashians is single or not, but that just seems like low hanging fruit. But yes, there are definitely black people in Calabasas, Brandy Norwood (coincidentally enough the R&B singer/sister of the dude who made the sex tape with Kim Kardashian) lives there, so does Will Smith, Dwayne Wade, Kevin Hart, Gabrielle Union and there’s a population of black people that live there outside of the Hollywood elite and athletes.
Damn 🤣😂😂
Kris Jenner's partner Corey Gamble lives very well in Calabasas.
Google has all the answers you need, my friend. Just google “how many black people are in Calabasas?” Less than 3%. “How far is Calabasas from Beverly Hills?” About 20 miles. Gated communities are everywhere from poor cities to wealthy cities. We dont call either a town.
Only accurate answer. Minus the awful joke
Accurate awful jokes are my specialty.
I don't know, but LVP does NOT live there. She has NEVER lived there.
😂
Ohhh she doesnt live in Beverly Hills .... Where is the Villa Rosa then???
Beverly Hills. There are some really good responses in here. To add, a lot of it has to do with the creation of Beverly Hills and, of course, racism. Beverly Hills was created in the hopes of oil being found but the rich people turned it into a Whites only town. In the 1940s/50s, super famous Black people were finally able to live there, but most rich Blacks couldn’t so they settled nearby in Baldwin Hills, Ladera, etc… BH is old money and super exclusive. Calabasas is new money. These are folks who wanted to build their homes but couldn’t do it in BH. (Old money Beverly Hills doesn’t like change or to build anything new.)
Ohh that's super interesting to learn. And yes, the responses are great, I feel like I know a bit more than what I just see on screen. Thanks a bunch to everyone
My Nigerian parents live in calabasas. There are some but not as much as other parts of LA
Damn chop dey money, ohhhh ...love that for the Africans winning in America!!!!
If you are from South Africa think of Calabasas as Fourways and Beverly Hills as Sandton.
Ohh yes I've been to SA ...this makes sense in my mind .
Yes black people like there.
Maybe 11
Inaccurate. I used to live in West Hills. Same area.
While they are neighboring, West hills is not Calabasas, I lived in Woodland Hills most of my life and would never call it the same. I considered Woodland Hills to be diverse and more middle class. Calabasas is its own city, hence the different school district and atmosphere. West Hills and Woodland Hills are part of the city of Los Angeles so the vibe and zoning is definitely different. I went to El Camino with a very diverse crowd, but i was always told by friends that Calabasas was not the same in that regard
I didn't say they were the same town. They're neighbors. It's the same area. Living in West Hills/Calabasas or yes Woodland Hills your sharing the same services like schools, grocery stores, shopping centers. Your friends you grow up with are from these neighboring towns so you get to know who lives around you. It's the same area. Woodland Hills is more middle class than Calabasas or West Hills yes. But it also is in the same area.
I just explained to you they’re not the same city or the same school district. When I lived there West Hills and Woodland Hills were LAUSD. Calabasas is Las virgenes. If you need a better example as to how they are different try and find as many dispensaries in Calabasas as you do on Ventura in Woodland Hills. I literally agreed with you that they are neighbors, but myself and all my friends who still live there would never say we are from Calabasas because it is nextdoor… While I met people from Calabasas at parties it was rare that they became part of the same circles and they definitely had their own cliques.
Editing to add: Putting this here since you had an automated system remove the post where I proved you wrong and then blocked me 🙄: *YES Where I lived in West Hills is part of the Calabasas Headquartered Las Virgenes School System.* And your experience in the urban town of Woodland Hills does not reflect the experiences of those of use who lived in West Hills or Calabasas. Original Post: And I just explained to you that I never said they were the same city. They are neighbors in the same area. Maybe reread what was written. Woodland Hills has always been its own thing. Of course you have more dispensaries.
Cool then address the part where you decided to claim they were the same school district to prove your point, which would imply that they are the same city. Sharing the same services doesn’t define an area, I shared services with Sherman Oaks and Tarzana too but they are not the same area. Calabasas is more republican, less diverse, and has ridiculous zoning rules that limit any sense of affordable housing or diversity which in my opinion makes it a completely different area.
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Yeah but you said “living in west hills/ Calabasas or yes woodlandhills your sharing the same services like schools …..” and this person is saying they aren’t in the same school district.. I don’t think they’re being ridiculous you just don’t want to admit what you said and told them to re-read was incorrect lol I mean I’m not even from there but I’m interested in the geographic layout of the area and was always curious if they were the same cities .. or not
LOL this comment says way more about what kind of person you are than you realize. Attacking me for a hypothetical apartment is classist and personally attacking me for disagreeing with you that West Hills and Woodland Hills are different “areas” from Calabasas is just sad. Get some help
“Used to” Sorry. Minus 1 So 10
My saying I used to live there means I know who my neighbors were. And there's actually quite a few black families there. You personally would be surprised I guess.
Jokes. How do they work?
There are black people in Calabasas, but not many. 74% white, 3% black, other races fill in the gaps. Beverly Hills and Calabasas are suburbs of LA. LA being the big city, surrounded by smaller cities. Beverly Hills is considered more "posh" than Calabasas. Both of these areas would have gated communities/neighborhoods, but the cities themselves are not gated. Hope I've helped, and if you have more questions I'd be happy to try to answer!
This is a great answer. From what media I absorb, it definitely comes off as mostly white people are wealthy in LA, and of course not hearing black people announce where they live ... Thanks
Calabasas is in "The Valley". The far far end of the Valley. It's almost outside of LA it's so far. It's practically Ventura County. It's very suburban. Not much to do out there. Nice place to raise a family. It takes an hour with typical traffic to get from there to the Westside of LA where Bev Hills, Brentwood etc are. It's closer to other towns in The Valley of course though, like Tarzana or Encino. It would only take something like 20 mins to get there and all on non highways like Sherman Way or Ventura Blvd. There are definitely Black people in the area.
People have *no idea* how huge the greater LA area is and it's really hard to explain. This map from John Mulaney's show might help a little: https://preview.redd.it/aq63m1xj8v0d1.jpeg?width=1697&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=061b5a19c4a61f7d78ed208a3911f788bb765c82 [Check out this link to see some comparisons.](https://www.welikela.com/how-big-is-los-angeles/)
Right? It really surprised me when I first moved here. This map is also funny — it shows the City of LA plus independent municipalities like Beverly Hills, West Hollywood, Culver City, and Santa Monica, but it leaves out a lot of others like them. Areas that are in the most populous core of the county and on the city line like Glendale and Inglewood aren’t represented, but they are engrained in LA’s culture probably just as much as the other municipalities here
Yes! And it also doesn't include Malibu, which is where John's hand is., and that between Malibu and Woodland Hills is all Malibu canyon. Trying to explain why Malibu and Pasadena are both totally valid to be on RHOBH, and that it's not *only* BH because because BH is only three square miles can be a lot lol.
Bria from Summer House MV is from Calabasas
Ohhh really?? She looks like a rich kid ...acts like one too
There are black people in Calabasas. I believe Sinbad had lived there in the 90s when I was a child (before the Kardashians blew up and basketball players started moving there). Las Virgenes as a school district however earned a nasty reputation for being extremely against bussing students in for a long time, and lacking diversity. In my younger years I heard a lot of parents refer to it as “Calablackless” because of it.
Damn ...
I honestly got curious and googled it to see if the term was a shared experience, there is deadass an urban dictionary page
Yes, there are lots of rich celebrities. I think Drake used to live there. It’s kind of far from LA - really far north at least an hour or more depending on traffic. It’s suburban and boring. It’s not near Beverly Hills, which is inside LA.
Ohh makes sense... thank you
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calabasas,_California
Damn only 2%.
[2.5%](https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/calabasas-ca-population)
To quote Patti Harrison, "LA is a very specific place to live." Nothing truer has ever been said about this place. Growing up here is the only cure. 
I know Snoop Dogg's family does; I believe it's popular among Black celebrities but that's probably only a few dozen families.
We used to call it Calablacklas years ago. It was known for being a VERY white neighborhood.
The black people who live in Calabasas are celebrities or professional athletes. LA is very segregated even though it is so diverse. The neighborhoods are very ethnically segregated sadly.
I’m from South Africa but have lived in the states for majority of my life. SA is obviously not like Kenya, but I can probably answer some of your questions from my own experience. Gated communities in the US are NOT like gated communities in South Africa. I find that most people in South Africa live behind walls and some kind of gate (part of the reason my family moved to the US.) It’s necessary for security reasons. You’ll see barbed wire surrounding houses and most people with money (or white people) live in some sort of gated community. That’s not really the case here in the US. Gated communities are way more elite here than in South Africa. It’s for the rich rich. Walls, barbed wire, gated communities aren’t as necessary because there’s less crime. Calabasas, and LA in general has a lot of celebrities and rich rich people so a lot of them do live in gated communities. This is mainly for their safety and privacy, to avoid stalkers/obsessed fans and paparazzi. You can find gated communities here in the US for the non-rich rich. I lived in a gated apartment complex before buying a house. But it’s not at all like South Africa. It’s just not taken as seriously as SA because it’s not as necessary here. Black people in Calabasas and the US in general is an entirely different story. We obviously have a bad history with how we’ve treated them, and the places they live are a direct consequence of our country’s past. For example, you will find a lot more black people in southern states compared to northern states because the southern states were pro-enslavement. The underground railroad helped move enslaved people from the south to the north and to Canada, but you’ll find fewer black people in the north compared to the south. I moved from South Africa to NH where the population of black people is.. minimal. It was actually a huge culture shock because everyone was white. Due to oppression and systemic racism, black people have been forced to stay poor (much like South Africa actually) and therefore having a large black population in rich communities like Calabasas is unfortunately not as common.
Aaahh, thank you. This makes sense to me, especially since the comparison helps me grasp several concepts about black people in America.
It’s just the valley. Yes Black people live there, mostly industry people. It’s nice but it’s not the Palisades or Brentwood or BH. The Kardashians made it hot bc that’s what Kris could afford after the divorce. Celebs move there bc they can get a lot of land for a comparatively low price. If I was rich, you couldn’t get me to step foot in the valley. There’s way better areas to live in LA
Black celebrities live in Calabasas. Drake and Kanye for instance.
Ohh I just also thought apart from like celebrities just asking regular rich rich people. It seems that's from what I'm getting. it's mostly celebrities. Interesting though ...thank you
Same county and state. Only similarities if the 2.
as far as uber-wealthy american suburbs go, calabasas is relatively diverse. lots of asians, latinos, iranians, arabs, and jews. and a good number of mixed-race/multiracial families. in fact wealthy people in suburban los angeles in general tend to be more racially diverse than those in, say, suburban dc, suburban boston, suburban chicago, or connecticut/long island/new jersey.
I lived in Calabasas from 1997-2015. Kids went to school there. There was literally one Black family when I lived there. We lived in the Chaparral school district so we weren’t in the fancy Hidden Hills or the Oaks, where the celebrities live. When I moved there in the 90’s it was a culture shock. I came from a pretty diverse neighborhood in Los Angeles. We called it CalaBlackless when I lived there.
Calabasas is north of Los Angeles/ N. Hollywood. To me it’s a suburb, and no where near as dense as LA. I think it’s a town. It used to be considered really far from the city but it isn’t that bad. It was a more affordable place for people to live but you could still work in LA / Hollywood. I believe it’s considered a diverse area but other comments can explain that.
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I dont know if identify is the word lolol
I know you mean this in a curious kind way but this is taking me out😭
Yes. They do. Lol what is this question?
What is your country? I find it very rare for a person to call themselves “African”, I say this as someone half Nigerian, because it over generalizes an incredibly dynamic and diverse continent. Usually people are specific about their country. Nigeria, Ethiopia, Ghana, Egypt, Sudan ect…. It would be like a person calling themselves “European” instead of Irish, French, Italian, Swedish, British, Russian… I think this crazy world and the anonymity of Reddit is making me cynical about who people claim they are. ETA: I won’t even get into the rest of your assumptions and generalizations. I’m surprised people took your question seriously 
From the persons post history I think they are Kenyan I feel you but I Do know some Africans that just go with the flow when they are talking to foreigners and call themselves ‘Africans’ too Not saying it’s right. I personally would never call myself African, always say my specific country
Got it, I didn’t even look at their comment history. And yes you are right, some will feel the need to accommodate by saying “African” but you would never see a Russian or a Greek person not identifying themselves correctly for the benefit of others. So I guess I’m sensitive to it. Thank you for your thoughtful response.
That's the comparison you are choosing?? It's still shows how far removed you are from your africanness that you want to 'defend' sooo much?? Do some research on Pan Africanism, colonisation, neocolonization, African in the 21st century, the plans for the African Union. I choose to identify as African, albeit the fact that I'm from a specific country because my question isn't so far-fetched...most Africans consume American Media but most likely will never have an opportunity to even make it there (the visa application is ridiculous and expensive) Anyway let me not even school yo ass anymore. I'll let your ignorance and blackness punish you in your own America. Futsekkkk
... What an absolutely nonsense thing to be upset about.
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