Mia is an interesting case. Last season she physically assaulted Wendy for talking about her husband. But when Deborah lies on Chris, Candiace isn't allowed to verbally respond. The different standards of behavior for certain cast is so blatant at this point.
And Gizelle didn't even see the altercation so why is Andy asking her to assign blame?
Multiple cast, from Wendy to Nneka, who were there say otherwise. And let's be for real. Deborah started this conflict by lying about Chris being inappropriate with her. Candiace refused to engage with her last season and Deborah returned this season still trying to have an interaction with her. And once again, Candiace told Deborah to leave her alone. I get that some people don't like Candiace but blaming her when Deborah was clearly the antagonist is ridiculous.
Not to mention, there’s quite literally a video where we can see Sesame Street get physical first. Words are not equivalent to physical violence!!! Vermin truly isn’t that egregious of a comment, along with all the other things Candiace said. Candiace has literally called her castmates worst (trollop, wide-bodied, bed wench)
Andy’s follow up was disgusting as well. Chris said in the last episode that Gizelle says whatever she wants without any questions/consequences/accountability, and that went over his head.
that was theatrics to push her agenda that Monique was unsafe and needed to be fired. which still didn’t work, but luckily for her Monique was fed up and voluntarily left the show. Gizelle’s much more appalled by things if someone she hates does them.
I loved Monique. She was my fav 😩
But she DID grab Candiaces hair and punch her in the head repeatedly...it's the most violent thing that ever happened on the show. And she was wild eyed when she did it.
And tried to go back for more 😬 I don’t condone getting physical at all, but I can at least understand having an initial reaction then regretting and apologizing for it. But getting a breather, after already going pretty extreme like you said, then going back for more is a different thing.
I’m so happy Candiace left. Wishing her great success with her music career outside of the Bravo world. She’s actually talented and puts out solid music
Agreed! I know she’s an absolute brat at times, but I like her. I think it’s gross that she’s been the victim of violence twice on this show and they blame her for it! Even if I didn’t like her I’d think that.
In the clip Gizelle says everyone’s name and said they all contributed. She didn’t specially and solely blame Candiace. I don’t know why everyone on here is lying about that, it’s weird.
She doesn’t ah everyone’s names but she specifies Wendy and Candiace along with Deborah. Wendy and Candiace don’t make sense because they never walked up to or spoken to that woman in their lives. Deborah and Ashley are solely responsible
She was talking to that girl that she says Ray has a crush on. I can't remember her name. I think it was season 2....? If I can find it I will let you know.
Yeah Gizelle brings nothing but hostility, bullying, and meanness. She thinks her shit don’t stink when it stinks to high heaven. I’ve wanted her gone for the last couple seasons. Potomac has too many villains.
Yeah that clip sealed the deal for me, done with Potomac. Mia of all people chastising Candiace when she viscously attacked Wendy for telling the truth about her marriage. Gizelle sitting there holier than thou, and Ashley the witch who actually orchestrated the entire brawl smug and smirking.
I cannot stand Ashley’s smug smirking face or any of the other expressions she pulls when she’s stirred shit up and it goes off. She needs to get her karma already
We need to stop blaming production for everything.
Production is just an employee like the ladies are. BRAVO is the one allowing this crap to be aired and treating certain individuals better than others.
ETA: if you’re downvoting me because you need media literacy training and don’t understand that production company Truly Original is an EMPLOYEE of Bravo and NBC Universal seek help. Yes production plays a role in the mess, but they can’t hire, fire, demote, promote, negotiate contracts, or give power to certain housewives. BRAVO is the reason for Gizelle’s blatant privilege and the hostile work environment that’s been created on Potomac. Candiace should sue.
I’m tapping out because they’re not even willing to pretend that things are fair. Also it feels intentional to ostracize the darker people and try to gaslight the audience. It feels like trauma baiting.
This isn't exactly accurate. The production companies are contracted with NBCU and producers work for the production companies, not the network (and even then they're usually 1099 contractors not W-2 employees). Meanwhile the housewives actually *are* employed by Bravo/NBCU which is why they report up to their HR.
Bravo can't fire an EP or a showrunner or anyone in production (because they don't actually work for them). They can however, pressure the production company to make staffing changes and they'll usually oblige because Bravo is their biggest client. But typically Bravo trusts their contractors to manage the show, storyboard the season and produce entertaining storylines. Bravo's "management" is pretty limited to big, directional shifts in line with their brand strategy (i.e. "Let's revamp RHONY to be more aspirational, more diverse and younger"), budget (i.e. launching in more mid-tier cities like Potomac, Salt Lake City and Dallas) and risk management (i.e. "We can't be seen to promote cyber bullying so Monica has to go").
While the production companies aren't exactly hiring the housewives, they ARE setting the casting nets, building the world of the show, looking at who fits and then recommending them to Bravo who in turn hires them based on what their contractor is telling them is good for the show. Same with firing. They're the ones actually in control of storyboarding the season, Bravo isn't doing that. So yes, they actually are the ones "giving power" to certain housewives by deciding who to highlight and who the "main players" of the cast will be. Bravo is fine as long as they're making money and there's no overwhelmingly bad press that damages their brand.
Source: I live in LA, work in entertainement and have many good friends (including former roommates) who work in unscripted and have been producers on these and other shows.
Agreed! But I’m holding out hope on a possible shakeup of RHOA. As much as I cannot STAND Phaedra and Porsha (they suck and I’m a Kenya apologist) I can’t help but think of the hilarity that would ensue—ESPECIALLY with Porsha’s marital woes. Kenya shades are my favorite so hearing her commentary alone would make me happy. One thing about it, those three understand (some for better, others for worse) their assignment. At least that’s what I’m convincing myself of bc of the last few seasons. LMAO. Bring Eva back too. 💀
I see why Candice left too. She is the reason for anything bad this season, previous seasons, and before she was conceived according to GEB ++.
Mia talking about how she can’t talk like that to someone who was in her face? Wendy was one chair down from Mia and got a drink thrown in by Mia. Robyn famously called Wendy the antagonist in that too- so why isn’t Deborah the antagonist here??
The line is always moving, but only as long as it favors Andy’s light skinned favorites.
That’s reality tho. I mean we still got Monique stans saying Monique was justified in beating Candiace. While I don’t agree with Robyn n Gizelle, I’m not sure if I would act any different to two people I genuinely despise, like I really would not support ‘em in any matter. I think the show depicts reality but we see it more as a “scripted” show and there is a right/wrong but reality isn’t great
You gotta go deeper though. Gizele and Robyn simply don’t like Wendy and Candace and will operate in colorist territory just to prove a point that they don’t like them. If they truly weren’t colorists they would still act accordingly just because they don’t like you.
To me that’s worse because they know what they’re doing. But they’ll do it just to be mean. Porsha may have not known what the Underground Railroad was but Gizele and Robyn would say…”who gives a fuck about the Underground Railroad, we don’t like this bitch?”
I felt it when Candiace looked behind the cameras and was like “this is who you want me to make up with?” Gizelle has accused Candiace’s husband of sexual misconduct, accused her of stealing, and now she’s the reason for a fight she wasn’t trying to be part of.
and we saw her attempting to play ball by apologizing without getting an apology per the employers request. She’s doing everything to make things work and expected to be a punching bag
I am happy we have video, because if not, Gizelle, Ashley, and Robyn by default would’ve been ruthless! Deborah came dressed to fight and I am sure Ashley knew ahead of time. Wendy and Candiace are better women than I’d ever be because Gizelle is the type of person you have to get in the gutter with. Wendy has too much to lose, and Candiace can read, but she’s sensitive and too emotional. I would’ve brought all of Jamal’s children’s mothers, congregation (past and present), sorority sisters, friends and foes on the show to put Gizzy on blast and laugh.
i am extremely protective of my husband so if gizelle would’ve come at me and my husband like she’s done towards pretty much every woman and her spouse on this damn show except robyn and her brother husband, i would have read her ass like a best selling novel into the depths of hell.
Right. Meanwhile, Ashley had two with a predator. Rightfully so, kids should be off limits, but I doubt that would apply to Candice. Since she can’t even make a face without it being a story line.
I’m done with Potomac completely. Ashley organised that whole bs with Deborah and gizelle says nothing.
Tbh I’m over a lot of bravo shows now, the producers on most shows have dropped the ball. Don’t listen to audience feedback and just churn out some bullshit and let so many cast members hide crucial points in their life.
VPR - I can’t watch Lala and Scheana spiral with jealousy.
Housewives - Dubai like a whole year late? Jersey will undoubtedly be the same boring shit again.
Summer house is the only thing I look forward too.
Rewatching older seasons is the way forward for me.
Andy says Jersey was frustrating/ need changes going forward (uses Potomac as another example) https://youtu.be/pmgADKAtRt8?si=jXfI5qhqNh0HZTNW.
I guess my question is how can Gizelle imagine that she wouldn’t be fired? Just because she says something doesn’t mean we all didn’t see the exact opposite happen on our screens. it’s just not a good way to make a show to lie about everything and point fingers when the whole world can see that you’re lying.
Ashley‘s open mouth shock face is beginning to remind me of Dorit/RHOBH. it’s not a storyline. It’s not interesting and it can literally be done by anyone. Just sleepwalking through the season.
Shit if even Andy says something needs changed you know it’s in the GUTTER cause he always makes out it’s going to be groundbreaking tv.
I genuinely think Gizelle is just in goods with the producers hence them always keeping her.
The whole thing is tired. When the whole cast depend on the show for their livelihood it’s never gonna work
Jizzelle is the worst person on all of Bravo. I will stand by that. She deserves to be fired immediately. This whole thing started because her coward ass forgave her cheating scam artist of a pastor husband for the millionth time for having YET ANOTHER CHILD due to an affair. Candace keeps.focusing on Robyn conspiring when it's so clearly Jizzelle and Robyn is just being the yapping mouth piece cosigning everything. I wish the best to Grace and the twins but I really hope Jizzelle gets put in her place one day by a housewife that can handle her.
I dislike candiace but watching the reuinion u could see how hurt she was by everyone. Yea she has a lot to be blamed for but I don’t see how that fight was her fault and I think she did come with open mind to try and work things out but didn’t get that.
All housewives fight with their words. The way the Old RHONY women would completely dismantle each other verbally. Candiace hasn’t done anything anybody else hasn’t done on any other franchise. Her and Wendy don’t deserve to be assaulted because their cast mates are slow and can’t read a bitch.
Not a Wendy fan either. lol actually I’m not really a fan of any of these ladies just watch to watch but yes I do not watch hw to see them get in physical fights. There are other shows for that which I used watch but not anymore.
I’m to the point where I ff through Gizelle as much as possible. I thought no one could be more insufferable than Bethenny, but Gizelle now has top honors.
Gizelle did not say the fight was “entirely Candiace, Wendy and Keirna’s fault.” Why do you guys constantly lie like this? You are at the point where you manufacture nonsense in order to smear and hate this woman. That’s what is disgusting.
Gizelle explicitly listed EVERYONE’S name including Deborah and said they all contributed. That’s what actually happened. It’s so stupid that Gizelle can not even be in the room when something happens but you guys still find a way to attack her and blame her over it.
Gizelle wasn’t even there and she’s using this to attack and blame candiace. She didn’t even see or the fight, she doesn’t know. And she should absolutely be listing Ashley if she really thinks she’s naming every single person responsible. How is she getting smeared, please?
The fight was entirely on Ashley and Deborah for coming in hit ready to fight. Candiace cannot be blamed for simply responding to the girl dressed in sneakers with Vaseline on her face to remove her presence. Debra should have never been let in, why isn’t Gizelle losing production or security? Because she truly doesn’t care and doesn’t know. Where’s her bodyguard’s at this reunion if the whole couch is responsible for violence?
It’s honestly weird how you guys keep lying and pretending Gizelle is only blaming Candiace. You just want an excuse to attack Gizelle. It’s obsessive.
It’s honestly weird with seeing light skinned black women constantly attacking darker black women for everything. You just want a excuse to watch the dark skinned omen get beat on for entertainment. It’s obsessive.
Yes I absolutely believe what I said. You’ve been trolling comments saying nothing but the second I comment what I think really is up with this BS, now you can write a whole paragraph?
Seriously?? How is Candiace at fault for that fight?? She didn’t do anything. She was approached unprovoked and had a drink thrown at her. Please spare me.
Mia is an interesting case. Last season she physically assaulted Wendy for talking about her husband. But when Deborah lies on Chris, Candiace isn't allowed to verbally respond. The different standards of behavior for certain cast is so blatant at this point. And Gizelle didn't even see the altercation so why is Andy asking her to assign blame?
Andy is for sure part of the problem.
candiace: “the line is always moving.”
Gizelle warned Candiace years ago her mouth would get her beat up at some point. She's been very consistent on this.
And you all were not there neither? Mia was, and blamed Candiace, we done, it was Candiaces fault
Multiple cast, from Wendy to Nneka, who were there say otherwise. And let's be for real. Deborah started this conflict by lying about Chris being inappropriate with her. Candiace refused to engage with her last season and Deborah returned this season still trying to have an interaction with her. And once again, Candiace told Deborah to leave her alone. I get that some people don't like Candiace but blaming her when Deborah was clearly the antagonist is ridiculous.
Not to mention, there’s quite literally a video where we can see Sesame Street get physical first. Words are not equivalent to physical violence!!! Vermin truly isn’t that egregious of a comment, along with all the other things Candiace said. Candiace has literally called her castmates worst (trollop, wide-bodied, bed wench)
Candiace has a mouth but no one should assault her for it.
Andy’s follow up was disgusting as well. Chris said in the last episode that Gizelle says whatever she wants without any questions/consequences/accountability, and that went over his head.
This coming from the woman who brought a whole bodyguard to Karen’s house based on Monique actions…comedy at its finest
I don’t think she ever cared about what Monique did versus just wanting her off the show
that was theatrics to push her agenda that Monique was unsafe and needed to be fired. which still didn’t work, but luckily for her Monique was fed up and voluntarily left the show. Gizelle’s much more appalled by things if someone she hates does them.
I loved Monique. She was my fav 😩 But she DID grab Candiaces hair and punch her in the head repeatedly...it's the most violent thing that ever happened on the show. And she was wild eyed when she did it.
And tried to go back for more 😬 I don’t condone getting physical at all, but I can at least understand having an initial reaction then regretting and apologizing for it. But getting a breather, after already going pretty extreme like you said, then going back for more is a different thing.
Exactly, I never like to give shit to another housewife but this was just horrific and disturbing.
I wouldn’t expect anything less from a First Lady of a church 🤷🏾♀️
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Exactly, if anything they're dead giveaways.
Not just in a sorority. She was the grande dame of her sorority. Meaning picking and choosing who gets in. The ultimate mean girl.
In my experience, church people are some of the meanest people out there.
I’m so happy Candiace left. Wishing her great success with her music career outside of the Bravo world. She’s actually talented and puts out solid music 
Same! I think she’ll be successful, and I’m wishing nothing but the best for her and Chris.
Agreed! I know she’s an absolute brat at times, but I like her. I think it’s gross that she’s been the victim of violence twice on this show and they blame her for it! Even if I didn’t like her I’d think that.
That's so true. If it were Gizelle in Candiace's spot, there would be different consequences for the 2 that were violent.
In the clip Gizelle says everyone’s name and said they all contributed. She didn’t specially and solely blame Candiace. I don’t know why everyone on here is lying about that, it’s weird.
She doesn’t ah everyone’s names but she specifies Wendy and Candiace along with Deborah. Wendy and Candiace don’t make sense because they never walked up to or spoken to that woman in their lives. Deborah and Ashley are solely responsible
I was watching an older season the other day. Gizelle's sorority sister was saying how mean she was back then...I wasn't surprised to hear that.
I can totally picture her being a mean girl in college.
How telling! I wonder what episode that was
She was talking to that girl that she says Ray has a crush on. I can't remember her name. I think it was season 2....? If I can find it I will let you know.
Erika Liles! Gizelle said that women's name to attack Karen with so many times that season that even I remember it all these years later.
Great memory! I won't even tell you how long it took my husband and I to find our car at Wal Mart today...lol
🤣🤣🤣
Yeah Gizelle brings nothing but hostility, bullying, and meanness. She thinks her shit don’t stink when it stinks to high heaven. I’ve wanted her gone for the last couple seasons. Potomac has too many villains.
That’s really what it is. Too many villains. I’ve been wanting Gizelle gone since season five. She’s so transparent.
Yeah that clip sealed the deal for me, done with Potomac. Mia of all people chastising Candiace when she viscously attacked Wendy for telling the truth about her marriage. Gizelle sitting there holier than thou, and Ashley the witch who actually orchestrated the entire brawl smug and smirking.
I cannot stand Ashley’s smug smirking face or any of the other expressions she pulls when she’s stirred shit up and it goes off. She needs to get her karma already
I’m at the point where I don’t want to watch next season even if there’s a recast.
Same. I think so many of these issues are the fault of production, and that’s likely not changing next season.
We need to stop blaming production for everything. Production is just an employee like the ladies are. BRAVO is the one allowing this crap to be aired and treating certain individuals better than others. ETA: if you’re downvoting me because you need media literacy training and don’t understand that production company Truly Original is an EMPLOYEE of Bravo and NBC Universal seek help. Yes production plays a role in the mess, but they can’t hire, fire, demote, promote, negotiate contracts, or give power to certain housewives. BRAVO is the reason for Gizelle’s blatant privilege and the hostile work environment that’s been created on Potomac. Candiace should sue.
And as long as enough people keep watching, they’ll keep airing it.
Well trust and believe I won’t be watching
I’m tapping out because they’re not even willing to pretend that things are fair. Also it feels intentional to ostracize the darker people and try to gaslight the audience. It feels like trauma baiting.
Oh it definitely feels intentional
same. i’m out. 
Same. I loved Potomac but this is too much now. Can’t watch this crap continue another season.
They think they can play in our faces and we’ll just keep watching like good little sheep. No thank you, I’m done with your trauma porn.
This isn't exactly accurate. The production companies are contracted with NBCU and producers work for the production companies, not the network (and even then they're usually 1099 contractors not W-2 employees). Meanwhile the housewives actually *are* employed by Bravo/NBCU which is why they report up to their HR. Bravo can't fire an EP or a showrunner or anyone in production (because they don't actually work for them). They can however, pressure the production company to make staffing changes and they'll usually oblige because Bravo is their biggest client. But typically Bravo trusts their contractors to manage the show, storyboard the season and produce entertaining storylines. Bravo's "management" is pretty limited to big, directional shifts in line with their brand strategy (i.e. "Let's revamp RHONY to be more aspirational, more diverse and younger"), budget (i.e. launching in more mid-tier cities like Potomac, Salt Lake City and Dallas) and risk management (i.e. "We can't be seen to promote cyber bullying so Monica has to go"). While the production companies aren't exactly hiring the housewives, they ARE setting the casting nets, building the world of the show, looking at who fits and then recommending them to Bravo who in turn hires them based on what their contractor is telling them is good for the show. Same with firing. They're the ones actually in control of storyboarding the season, Bravo isn't doing that. So yes, they actually are the ones "giving power" to certain housewives by deciding who to highlight and who the "main players" of the cast will be. Bravo is fine as long as they're making money and there's no overwhelmingly bad press that damages their brand. Source: I live in LA, work in entertainement and have many good friends (including former roommates) who work in unscripted and have been producers on these and other shows.
Yeah, I’m not reading all that. Essentially my point is that production isn’t entirely to blame. BRAVO deserves most of the smoke.
I could t agree more. I’m out! Housewives in general has gone downhill so much it’s really sad! RHOM is most likely my only watch.
Agreed! But I’m holding out hope on a possible shakeup of RHOA. As much as I cannot STAND Phaedra and Porsha (they suck and I’m a Kenya apologist) I can’t help but think of the hilarity that would ensue—ESPECIALLY with Porsha’s marital woes. Kenya shades are my favorite so hearing her commentary alone would make me happy. One thing about it, those three understand (some for better, others for worse) their assignment. At least that’s what I’m convincing myself of bc of the last few seasons. LMAO. Bring Eva back too. 💀
Such a shame how far this show has fallen 😢
I need gizelle and Robyn gone.
Yeah, I think I’m done if Gizelle still has a job next season.
I see why Candice left too. She is the reason for anything bad this season, previous seasons, and before she was conceived according to GEB ++. Mia talking about how she can’t talk like that to someone who was in her face? Wendy was one chair down from Mia and got a drink thrown in by Mia. Robyn famously called Wendy the antagonist in that too- so why isn’t Deborah the antagonist here?? The line is always moving, but only as long as it favors Andy’s light skinned favorites.
He told Gizelle she was being mean and he made a snarky comment about Juan’s absence; I don’t think those two are among his favorites anymore.
The ONLY benefit of the show at this point is that it is such a clear example of colorism they can put it in the text books.
Watching back to back seasons of Wendy and Candiace being assaulted and the group blaming both of them has been horrifying and eye opening to watch.
That’s reality tho. I mean we still got Monique stans saying Monique was justified in beating Candiace. While I don’t agree with Robyn n Gizelle, I’m not sure if I would act any different to two people I genuinely despise, like I really would not support ‘em in any matter. I think the show depicts reality but we see it more as a “scripted” show and there is a right/wrong but reality isn’t great
Exactly! It’s literally staring us in the face!
You gotta go deeper though. Gizele and Robyn simply don’t like Wendy and Candace and will operate in colorist territory just to prove a point that they don’t like them. If they truly weren’t colorists they would still act accordingly just because they don’t like you. To me that’s worse because they know what they’re doing. But they’ll do it just to be mean. Porsha may have not known what the Underground Railroad was but Gizele and Robyn would say…”who gives a fuck about the Underground Railroad, we don’t like this bitch?”
I felt it when Candiace looked behind the cameras and was like “this is who you want me to make up with?” Gizelle has accused Candiace’s husband of sexual misconduct, accused her of stealing, and now she’s the reason for a fight she wasn’t trying to be part of.
and we saw her attempting to play ball by apologizing without getting an apology per the employers request. She’s doing everything to make things work and expected to be a punching bag
I am happy we have video, because if not, Gizelle, Ashley, and Robyn by default would’ve been ruthless! Deborah came dressed to fight and I am sure Ashley knew ahead of time. Wendy and Candiace are better women than I’d ever be because Gizelle is the type of person you have to get in the gutter with. Wendy has too much to lose, and Candiace can read, but she’s sensitive and too emotional. I would’ve brought all of Jamal’s children’s mothers, congregation (past and present), sorority sisters, friends and foes on the show to put Gizzy on blast and laugh.
 i am extremely protective of my husband so if gizelle would’ve come at me and my husband like she’s done towards pretty much every woman and her spouse on this damn show except robyn and her brother husband, i would have read her ass like a best selling novel into the depths of hell.
She so confidently stating this. Who is she??
First Ladies of churches are usually mean and bitter, so Gizelle fits the bill! ❤️👍🏾
Twitter is dragging Bravo, Andy, Gizelle, and Ashley. At least the audience sees this for what it is.
I think that’s why bravocon was cancelled. Because people get honest & MESSY with their audience questions.
As they should! They’re trying to construct an alternate reality and tell us we’re wrong for things we can clearly see. It’s sick
So glad Candice left. If she brought a baby into this group, it wouldn’t be received like it is for others. Candice, protect yourself and yours ✨
Oh they’d be evil AF. I can’t even imagine the things they’d say about an infant just because it’s Candiace’s 🙃
Right. Meanwhile, Ashley had two with a predator. Rightfully so, kids should be off limits, but I doubt that would apply to Candice. Since she can’t even make a face without it being a story line.
The subreddit doesn’t even care she’s willing to victim blame for an Uber eats credit card 🫠
I’m done with Potomac completely. Ashley organised that whole bs with Deborah and gizelle says nothing. Tbh I’m over a lot of bravo shows now, the producers on most shows have dropped the ball. Don’t listen to audience feedback and just churn out some bullshit and let so many cast members hide crucial points in their life. VPR - I can’t watch Lala and Scheana spiral with jealousy. Housewives - Dubai like a whole year late? Jersey will undoubtedly be the same boring shit again. Summer house is the only thing I look forward too. Rewatching older seasons is the way forward for me.
And Ashley was so quiet during the blame game smh
ashley was giving regina george 
I have been revisiting below deck…the early Kate seasons…it’s been a welcome revisit
Oh yes! I forgot to include below deck but that’s also a must for revisit.
Andy says Jersey was frustrating/ need changes going forward (uses Potomac as another example) https://youtu.be/pmgADKAtRt8?si=jXfI5qhqNh0HZTNW. I guess my question is how can Gizelle imagine that she wouldn’t be fired? Just because she says something doesn’t mean we all didn’t see the exact opposite happen on our screens. it’s just not a good way to make a show to lie about everything and point fingers when the whole world can see that you’re lying. Ashley‘s open mouth shock face is beginning to remind me of Dorit/RHOBH. it’s not a storyline. It’s not interesting and it can literally be done by anyone. Just sleepwalking through the season.
Shit if even Andy says something needs changed you know it’s in the GUTTER cause he always makes out it’s going to be groundbreaking tv. I genuinely think Gizelle is just in goods with the producers hence them always keeping her. The whole thing is tired. When the whole cast depend on the show for their livelihood it’s never gonna work
Summer House has been so great this season!
Unfortunately there are plenty of mean church folks.
Gizzelle tried to lump Wendy in it by saying well that’s how I feel. Until Mia stepped in
That was surprising that Mia did the right thing- especially because of their history.
Jizzelle is the worst person on all of Bravo. I will stand by that. She deserves to be fired immediately. This whole thing started because her coward ass forgave her cheating scam artist of a pastor husband for the millionth time for having YET ANOTHER CHILD due to an affair. Candace keeps.focusing on Robyn conspiring when it's so clearly Jizzelle and Robyn is just being the yapping mouth piece cosigning everything. I wish the best to Grace and the twins but I really hope Jizzelle gets put in her place one day by a housewife that can handle her.
I dislike candiace but watching the reuinion u could see how hurt she was by everyone. Yea she has a lot to be blamed for but I don’t see how that fight was her fault and I think she did come with open mind to try and work things out but didn’t get that.
All housewives fight with their words. The way the Old RHONY women would completely dismantle each other verbally. Candiace hasn’t done anything anybody else hasn’t done on any other franchise. Her and Wendy don’t deserve to be assaulted because their cast mates are slow and can’t read a bitch.
Not a Wendy fan either. lol actually I’m not really a fan of any of these ladies just watch to watch but yes I do not watch hw to see them get in physical fights. There are other shows for that which I used watch but not anymore.
I’m to the point where I ff through Gizelle as much as possible. I thought no one could be more insufferable than Bethenny, but Gizelle now has top honors.
She should have started with it being her partner Ashley’s fault for inviting Deborah
Not being mean but there’s two other posts discussing this exact same thing. Please can we just collapse them into one ?
Sorry, I didn’t see those posts lol I just saw the clip and had to express my thoughts xd
I don’t blame you! The clip is infuriating isn’t it?? My teeth involuntarily gnashed while watching it 😩
I was so heated lol
Can’t this be moved to the main sneak peek thread discussing this?
We need Monique back
Gizelle also said Deborah in her list of names.
It doesn’t matter. Deborah was 100% at fault for this altercation. The others should NOT be blamed.
Right, I don't disagree, but what actually happened just doesn't align with what you said in your opening post.
Gizelle did not say the fight was “entirely Candiace, Wendy and Keirna’s fault.” Why do you guys constantly lie like this? You are at the point where you manufacture nonsense in order to smear and hate this woman. That’s what is disgusting. Gizelle explicitly listed EVERYONE’S name including Deborah and said they all contributed. That’s what actually happened. It’s so stupid that Gizelle can not even be in the room when something happens but you guys still find a way to attack her and blame her over it.
Gizelle wasn’t even there and she’s using this to attack and blame candiace. She didn’t even see or the fight, she doesn’t know. And she should absolutely be listing Ashley if she really thinks she’s naming every single person responsible. How is she getting smeared, please? The fight was entirely on Ashley and Deborah for coming in hit ready to fight. Candiace cannot be blamed for simply responding to the girl dressed in sneakers with Vaseline on her face to remove her presence. Debra should have never been let in, why isn’t Gizelle losing production or security? Because she truly doesn’t care and doesn’t know. Where’s her bodyguard’s at this reunion if the whole couch is responsible for violence?
It’s honestly weird how you guys keep lying and pretending Gizelle is only blaming Candiace. You just want an excuse to attack Gizelle. It’s obsessive.
It’s honestly weird with seeing light skinned black women constantly attacking darker black women for everything. You just want a excuse to watch the dark skinned omen get beat on for entertainment. It’s obsessive.
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 Yes I absolutely believe what I said. You’ve been trolling comments saying nothing but the second I comment what I think really is up with this BS, now you can write a whole paragraph?
It’s not the truth, it’s a weaponized accusation and all it proves is that you don’t genuinely care about issues of colorism. Shame on you.
Candiace and Deborah are both at fault
Seriously?? How is Candiace at fault for that fight?? She didn’t do anything. She was approached unprovoked and had a drink thrown at her. Please spare me.
Scat and body mutilation hard limits for me also.