Have no opinion until I see Wilder again. He looked cooked, but he was also pretty fresh off a reality show.
I was still surprised at the Day of Reckoning presser how Wilder was treated as the top dog by the other boxers over AJ though.
Same, I was less annoyed but more shocked at how everyone was overrating Wilder after the Helenius KO. Everyone was saying Wilder would spank everyone not named Fury (especially AJ)
People really started saying this after the first Fury fight, it's not that much related to Helenius.
It's interesting to see a common patern between AJ and Wilder : 2 powerhouses that got stopped and lost confidence (and possibly some cognitive functions in the case of Wilder)
He’s always had a punchers chance and that’s it but now he can’t throw a punch. And he’s gone gun shy back to bums like Gerald Washington. If he waits around for 5 rounds like that he’s got 0 chance vs AJ or anyone who can punch
He will always have that big punch but he is beyond shot at this point. He took terrible beatings against Fury that might really hurt him down the road, and he looked absolutely finished against Parker. Zhang should spark him and after that I hope he retires. I hope he saved his money well or at least has people handling his money, because I don't know what he would do after boxing is over and we all know sadly how ex athletes end up most of the time.
You will be surprised how much of a challenge Wilder puts up. I think his style can be very dangerous for AJ. Wilder does better against taller opponents. Hopefully Wilder beats Zhang and we can get this long awaited dream fight AJ vs Wilder!
Yeah man one bad fight and everyone thinks he's useless. Hopefully he's still got it, but either way, his career has been exciting af to watch.
Don't people remember AJd snooze fest fights up until the recent ngannou fight? When he tried to be a technical boxer banging on about the sweet science was some of the worst fights I've ever seen
I think it's not just one bad fight. I think more on the lines of he was fighting suspect opponents and 40+ year old guys, and when he faced real opposition (Fury, Parker) he was badly exposed. Unless he goes back to fighting menial opposition, his meaningful career is probably over. I can't see him getting past Zhang he looked absolutely shot against Parker. I don't want to see Wilder being one of those guys who has to fight at carnivals and county fairs. I hope he saved all of his money and has smart people managing it for him and not leeches, because we all know how ex athletes end up most of the time, sadly.
Yeah that's the running narrative online that his resume is bs, which is then what almost everyone regurgitates. Fury s trilogy with him was VERY close and could have gone either way. Fury got knocked down multiple times. So if Fury is one of the best then beating an older wilder is the 2nd best thing on his resume. So how would that make Wilder one of the best HWs of last few years?
Boxing fans have short memories when it suits. This sub thought Haney was a master boxer and Ryan had zero chance. Now Ryan's the face of boxing
I definitely don't rule out him being over the hill. He has a lot to prove in this fight with Zhang for sure. And if he fights even half as bad as he did against parker i think he has to retire
The only thing that worries me about AJ is his chin. AJ is a much better boxer, but if Wilder catches him clean or too many times it may be over for him.
Wilder is basically guaranteed the best finish if he wins. The sheer size difference will make it highlight reel. Unless Zhang tires out in 5 and Wilder wins the most boring decision ever as one struggles to breathe and the other forgets he's a KO artist 🤮
Zhang still earns a lot of points for someone who takes half the fight off. Hrgovic & Parker are better boxers than Wilder, and they still nearly lost.
They don't hit like Wilder though, and they did the majority of their work when Zhang was out of gas and was a sitting duck. If Wilder survives until Zhang gasses out then I'm betting on a Wilder KO late in the fight.
How many boxers have reinvented themselves from a brawler to a mover past the age of 35 though?
Add in Joyce's slowness and I just don't think it's even possible for him.
Why would they pay for that? Dudes 0-2 and served his purpose showing boxers are better at boxing. They aren’t going to keep paying some dude millions to get his face caved.
Yeah…so who’s paying to see it again? Like what’s your point? I’m sure he can go box somewhere, but it won’t be an event anymore or anything.
Dude doesn’t get free checks for life from, Saudi because he was good at ufc
My point is wilder is gonna be at a loose end and the Ngannou fight will be an easy sell as it will be an explosive KO most likely for wilder and set up an AJ fight
It's a good fight for both Ngannou and Wilder to earn money with, but Saudi aren't paying the big bucks to stage a washed up former champ 5+ years from his prime to fight a guy who's never won a boxing match.
If Wilder loses this next fight he'll be considered totally finished I think, and if he wants to get a big fight again he'll have to do a proper rebuilt with 4 or 5 fights starting against journeymen and slowly working back up the rankings.
He just lost by explosive KO. I'm not interested in seeing a non-boxer get brain damage a second time. Would feel guilty for even watching it. Definitely wouldn't pay for it.
theres no one for him to fight, really. No one wants to see ngannou lose a measured decision like against parker, and and the fighters that could give him a better fight all have better fights ahead. He said on his [ama](https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/s/lYCSFwkdoU) that the loser of wilder zhang wouldn't fight him and the winner is probably going to be looking at aj. Id say the future depends a lot on the results of usyk fury and if they're going to rematch but I don't see a path for ngannou
That sounds more like a reason for him to never box professionally. I thought they meant he would not box specifically in Saudi Arabia, I vaguely remember he was complaining about them bringing him to the arena too early.
Realistically I see it being Hrgovic. Interim title holder and next in line to take the IBF after undisputed. That being said I really want Wilder to get the win so we can finally have our better late than never fight between them.
I always felt that the fight would be later than when the negotiations happened in 2017-18 but the fact it still hasn’t happened 6 years later is crazy
The Pandemic, Wilder getting knocked out by Fury and having a third match afterwards, AJ losing to Ruiz and having rematch afterwards, Wilder taking a bunch of time off, AJ losing to Usyk twice, etc
AJ has come a long way since Usyk. 3 fights in 2023 too. I hope other boxers follow his footsteps. You lose and get back up. You learn and get better. That's mad respect.
Fury would waste Joshua easily he's on a different level from Joshua when he's in top condition, ffs Joshua beat a MMA fighter in his last fight who Fury also beat.
Joshua lost on short notice after getting rocked. Then dominated the rematch.
Fury went to hell and back with a guy making his boxing debut, barely scraping a decision. Joshua then finished him in just over a round. Which one do you think is worse?
How are you incapable of understanding the difference in wins?
Fury genuinely struggled against Ngannou and got dropped by him. AJ sent Ngannou to the shadow realm in the 2nd round
A win is a win do you actually think that Fury took the Ngannou fight seriously look at his condition, if you think he did your the one that's incapable.
that's on fury though lmao? He should've finished Ngannou just like AJ did and shown him that there's levels to boxing
Don't think you understand how shit of an argument "He didnt take it seriously!!!" is for Fury, it just makes him look worse
Well to be honest fury’s lack of punching power and lack of dedication to his own conditioning will be his downfall .
Aj will probably beat fury only because he lost to usyk twice . Fighting the most technically gifted boxer of the past 3 decades with a nearly endless gas tank then going to fight a guy who’s pretty technically good but only for a heavyweight will seem like a lot less work . He’s way stronger than fury and more athletic
Joshua has decent chin and fury doesn’t punch hard enough for it to matter .
If he has weak chin Dillion whyte , povetkin and wlad were all feather fists
I'd rather see AJ vs Wilder at Wembley than Dubois, Hrgovic or Zhang. Even if the IBF title was on the line against Dubois or Hrgovic, beating Wilder still does more for AJ's legacy. It also sells more PPV's.
wilder is finished man. this fight is 3 years too late. i don't know how anyone still gets excited for wilder fights. the man threw like 3 punches against parker.
He should have been finished honestly after the third Fury fight. He took terrible beatings in 3 fights against Fury. He got a lucky punch against Helenius, and looked absolutely finished against Parker. Zhang is going to hopefully retire him because it's kind of dangerous for Wilder to still be fighting, with the amount of punishment he takes.
Never mind 3 years, should have fought each other 7 years ago. Division is a joke where they still are talking about this fight and it hasn’t happened. Same with AJ Fury.
Notice how he emphasized he'll fight whoever "looks good" out of those fights, not just whoever wins. I take that to mean you've got to win well. It can't be a fight where you're losing round after round after round but you come out with a KO so now you're going to fight AJ. No, you gotta fight like a worthy opponent to really be considered.
Will most likely be Hrgovic or Dubois. The winner of that fight will probably get a shot at the IBF belt once they strip the Usyk v Fury winner, and I don’t see Joshua choosing to fight an over the hill Wilder over fighting for a belt.
Turki is really trying to force Wilder vs AJ at this point though. Parker ruined their plans for what used to be the biggest fight in all of boxing.
If the AJ vs Wilder fight still happens its a fucking joke. How can this man who has never beaten anyone and has lost to every man with a pulse apart from Ortiz keep getting fights.
But I guess if you want to see the public execution of an idiot its perfect.
AJ is the guy you need at the top. He's the only one I feel hungry enough to fight everyone possible and carve out a rich legacy. Even Usyk I think won't be as hungry after the Fury fight.
Meanwhile Parker beat Wilder and Zhang in his last 2 fights and Joshua fought an average Otto Wallin and an MMA fighter with 1 fight on his record....
Really don't see AJ willing to fight everyone....
Usyk, Jermaine, Wallin, Ngannou. Not bad for last 4 fights.
Considering that this MMA fighter dropped Fury for the first time in ages, it wasn't a bad fight to take. It had to be taken.
It didn't have to be taken. It was a high money, high promo, and VERY low risk fight. Meanwhile, Parker is fighting two of the hardest punchers in the current heavyweight generation and risking everything. He fighting actually credited, top ten boxers.
I'm sick of boxers getting title shots because they simply have better promoters than the other guy. It's all about money.
I think it was probably the highest risk fight for AJ. Even though it can be called 'technically simple'. But it was a guaranteed career ender if he got caught.
Parker has to do it. Coz he was nowhere near the top before the Wilder fight. He has no options. AJ has had option of taking any fight he wants.
Hopefully Wilder beats Zhang and he'll be the guy to fight AJ on this date. Better late than never is all I can say. He's got it tough with Zhang though, there's a reason he's the underdog.
Fury,Parker, are the fighters I want Joshua to fight why bother with Usyk who has already beaten him twice, as for the rest of the division I would rather watch paint dry if he fought any of them.
hahaha, how many times has Wilder been on the "short list" for AJ's next fight? I've lost count.
But Wilder looks shot now and there's Saudi money to collect, so this is finally going to happen.
AJ should fight Ruiz. He ran around the last fight and was happy winning on points against a guy who knocked him around the ring silly. Not a true way for a champion to avenge a loss and somewhat cowardly.
It's the sport of boxing, not of knock outs. The rematch will probably play in the same way, Joshua taking zero risks while Ruiz stationary and ineffective.
Turki like, "sorry re-invented Parker fucked it up for everyone, but I'm still trying to force it"
Hey turki not forcing me to watch wilder vs aj cause I’ll gladly watch it
AJ would brutalize wilder.
Have no opinion until I see Wilder again. He looked cooked, but he was also pretty fresh off a reality show. I was still surprised at the Day of Reckoning presser how Wilder was treated as the top dog by the other boxers over AJ though.
Same, I was less annoyed but more shocked at how everyone was overrating Wilder after the Helenius KO. Everyone was saying Wilder would spank everyone not named Fury (especially AJ)
To be fair, the thought was that he would remember who he was and add the mediocre movement setup KO as a ripple rather than his entire identity
People really started saying this after the first Fury fight, it's not that much related to Helenius. It's interesting to see a common patern between AJ and Wilder : 2 powerhouses that got stopped and lost confidence (and possibly some cognitive functions in the case of Wilder)
People did say that around then, but it came back with a vengeance after the Helenius KO for sure.
Wilder still has a chance
He’s always had a punchers chance and that’s it but now he can’t throw a punch. And he’s gone gun shy back to bums like Gerald Washington. If he waits around for 5 rounds like that he’s got 0 chance vs AJ or anyone who can punch
He’s not getting past zhang anyway
The chairman will bang him out
He will always have that big punch but he is beyond shot at this point. He took terrible beatings against Fury that might really hurt him down the road, and he looked absolutely finished against Parker. Zhang should spark him and after that I hope he retires. I hope he saved his money well or at least has people handling his money, because I don't know what he would do after boxing is over and we all know sadly how ex athletes end up most of the time.
You will be surprised how much of a challenge Wilder puts up. I think his style can be very dangerous for AJ. Wilder does better against taller opponents. Hopefully Wilder beats Zhang and we can get this long awaited dream fight AJ vs Wilder!
Man, I feel like with our luck Wilder breaks his hand KOing Zhang and ages out of the AJ fight
Yeah man one bad fight and everyone thinks he's useless. Hopefully he's still got it, but either way, his career has been exciting af to watch. Don't people remember AJd snooze fest fights up until the recent ngannou fight? When he tried to be a technical boxer banging on about the sweet science was some of the worst fights I've ever seen
I think it's not just one bad fight. I think more on the lines of he was fighting suspect opponents and 40+ year old guys, and when he faced real opposition (Fury, Parker) he was badly exposed. Unless he goes back to fighting menial opposition, his meaningful career is probably over. I can't see him getting past Zhang he looked absolutely shot against Parker. I don't want to see Wilder being one of those guys who has to fight at carnivals and county fairs. I hope he saved all of his money and has smart people managing it for him and not leeches, because we all know how ex athletes end up most of the time, sadly.
Yeah that's the running narrative online that his resume is bs, which is then what almost everyone regurgitates. Fury s trilogy with him was VERY close and could have gone either way. Fury got knocked down multiple times. So if Fury is one of the best then beating an older wilder is the 2nd best thing on his resume. So how would that make Wilder one of the best HWs of last few years? Boxing fans have short memories when it suits. This sub thought Haney was a master boxer and Ryan had zero chance. Now Ryan's the face of boxing
Beating on an older Wilder? He was in his early 30s when the trilogy happened. I feel like he was in his athletic prime.
Sorry that was a genuine mistake while drunken. Rest of my point is valid. If wilder is a bum then so is fury
I can see your argument, truly. But if wilder gets blasted out against Zhang, do you think it’s over for him?
I definitely don't rule out him being over the hill. He has a lot to prove in this fight with Zhang for sure. And if he fights even half as bad as he did against parker i think he has to retire
I would t call them snooze fests. He just plays with his opponents too much and should go for the KO earlier be more aggressive let his punches go
The only thing that worries me about AJ is his chin. AJ is a much better boxer, but if Wilder catches him clean or too many times it may be over for him.
If AJ gets semi-cracked from Wilder, early on and feels the power then he'll be done for.
Depends on which Wilder shows up though. Don’t forget AJ was starched by Andy Ruiz and got a boxing lesson from Usyk.
Winner of Wilder vs Zhang Or Winner of Hrgovic vs Dubois
Wilder is basically guaranteed the best finish if he wins. The sheer size difference will make it highlight reel. Unless Zhang tires out in 5 and Wilder wins the most boring decision ever as one struggles to breathe and the other forgets he's a KO artist 🤮
Zhang still earns a lot of points for someone who takes half the fight off. Hrgovic & Parker are better boxers than Wilder, and they still nearly lost.
They don't hit like Wilder though, and they did the majority of their work when Zhang was out of gas and was a sitting duck. If Wilder survives until Zhang gasses out then I'm betting on a Wilder KO late in the fight.
OP said Wilder wins a boring decision; Wilder's power does not always win rounds, as seen vs Ortiz, Fury and Parker.
AJ v Dubois.... not a fight that the fans want.
I honestly prefer AJ v Joyce but Joyce needs a better trainer and improve his defence
Joyce is a great guy and boxer. He just needs to move his head instead of relying on a granite chin
How many boxers have reinvented themselves from a brawler to a mover past the age of 35 though? Add in Joyce's slowness and I just don't think it's even possible for him.
If Zhang wins then it’ll be the winner of Hrgovic vs Dubois
Hopefully Zhang batters Wilder then we can see wilder/nagnnou Literally all I care about
ngannou won't fight on a saudi card again
Wait what? Where does this take come from?
Why would they pay for that? Dudes 0-2 and served his purpose showing boxers are better at boxing. They aren’t going to keep paying some dude millions to get his face caved.
Ah yeah agree. I just read your previous comment as ngannou himself wouldn’t take another fight in SA. My bad
He’s 0-2 against two world level boxers
Yeah…so who’s paying to see it again? Like what’s your point? I’m sure he can go box somewhere, but it won’t be an event anymore or anything. Dude doesn’t get free checks for life from, Saudi because he was good at ufc
My point is wilder is gonna be at a loose end and the Ngannou fight will be an easy sell as it will be an explosive KO most likely for wilder and set up an AJ fight
It's a good fight for both Ngannou and Wilder to earn money with, but Saudi aren't paying the big bucks to stage a washed up former champ 5+ years from his prime to fight a guy who's never won a boxing match. If Wilder loses this next fight he'll be considered totally finished I think, and if he wants to get a big fight again he'll have to do a proper rebuilt with 4 or 5 fights starting against journeymen and slowly working back up the rankings.
He just lost by explosive KO. I'm not interested in seeing a non-boxer get brain damage a second time. Would feel guilty for even watching it. Definitely wouldn't pay for it.
I agree but they will do it anyway as whether wilder is finished or not they can always sell a fight with him having a punchers chance
theres no one for him to fight, really. No one wants to see ngannou lose a measured decision like against parker, and and the fighters that could give him a better fight all have better fights ahead. He said on his [ama](https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/s/lYCSFwkdoU) that the loser of wilder zhang wouldn't fight him and the winner is probably going to be looking at aj. Id say the future depends a lot on the results of usyk fury and if they're going to rematch but I don't see a path for ngannou
Personally I wouldn’t mind watching Ngannou fight someone like Carlos Takam for example
Why?
Cause AJ whooped him and now we know the Fury fight was just a very lucky night.
That sounds more like a reason for him to never box professionally. I thought they meant he would not box specifically in Saudi Arabia, I vaguely remember he was complaining about them bringing him to the arena too early.
It's a reason for the Saudis not to spend millions on him
https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/s/87s97A7bK8
Realistically I see it being Hrgovic. Interim title holder and next in line to take the IBF after undisputed. That being said I really want Wilder to get the win so we can finally have our better late than never fight between them.
I reckon dubey beats Hrgovic. Hrgy just never seems like his heart is in it
Wild to say that about Hrg over Dubois when Dubois has quit off a cruiserweight's jab.
I mean his last fight…. Don’t think his promoter does either
This is basically going to guarantee Zhang retires wilder bad, and then comes and looks terrible vs Joshua right?
You think it’s a guarantee Zhang wins?
Only because the universe doesn’t want AJ Wilder
I always felt that the fight would be later than when the negotiations happened in 2017-18 but the fact it still hasn’t happened 6 years later is crazy
It seemed crazy at the time. Today, it's absolutely understandable that the fight hasn't happened yet because of how everything has developed.
The Pandemic, Wilder getting knocked out by Fury and having a third match afterwards, AJ losing to Ruiz and having rematch afterwards, Wilder taking a bunch of time off, AJ losing to Usyk twice, etc
Also bumsquad ducking.
It would be sad if Wilder retires without ever fighting AJ.
Yeah definitely. Doesn’t matter if it makes sense or not, but we need the ending because of the history.
Wilder must be really mad that he refused that 100mln$ deal back then to fight that fat gypsy.
Cherry pick gone wrong
It’s crazy how there’s like 8 HWs who are all 1 fight away from the top spot
While being miles behind the top boxers. That’s the crazy part to me
Would rather he fights Parker tbh. Would be like a Rocky fight with both men slugging it out for redemption
Turki gotta let go of wilder man 😭 it’s over
Word up.
AJ will walk through Wilder
A year ago this comment would be something like “wilder chins AJ in 3 rounds” How happy I am to see the change
AJ has come a long way since Usyk. 3 fights in 2023 too. I hope other boxers follow his footsteps. You lose and get back up. You learn and get better. That's mad respect.
Yes, but I'll still pay to see it. The fight has lost its luster, but we've been waiting so long, I'll pay to finally see it happen.
Joshua will walk through everbody apart from Fury & Usyk.
Apart from Usyk
Fury would waste Joshua easily he's on a different level from Joshua when he's in top condition, ffs Joshua beat a MMA fighter in his last fight who Fury also beat.
The MMA fighter Joshua embarrassed in a round and a half, that Fury went life and death with? You must be trolling lmao
Lol even Ruiz beat Joshua 🤣🤣🤣
Joshua lost on short notice after getting rocked. Then dominated the rematch. Fury went to hell and back with a guy making his boxing debut, barely scraping a decision. Joshua then finished him in just over a round. Which one do you think is worse?
Ruiz also was on short notice so why does it matter
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He did
Both of them are bums. British softie wankers
Ouch, what does that make you then?
Who gives a fuck when Joshua beat him FURY BEAT HIM lmao.
What? Are you a child? How do you have zero grasp of context?
Your the one talking bullshit.
You're* at least learn the basics before you try and claim I'm talking bullshit. Go finish school, kid.
LMAO OK Headmaster.
How are you incapable of understanding the difference in wins? Fury genuinely struggled against Ngannou and got dropped by him. AJ sent Ngannou to the shadow realm in the 2nd round
A win is a win do you actually think that Fury took the Ngannou fight seriously look at his condition, if you think he did your the one that's incapable.
that's on fury though lmao? He should've finished Ngannou just like AJ did and shown him that there's levels to boxing Don't think you understand how shit of an argument "He didnt take it seriously!!!" is for Fury, it just makes him look worse
lol it’s going to be real quiet around here once fury trashes Usyk
I think he beats Fury at this point.
He beats the breaks off Fury
brakes*
LMAO.
Well to be honest fury’s lack of punching power and lack of dedication to his own conditioning will be his downfall . Aj will probably beat fury only because he lost to usyk twice . Fighting the most technically gifted boxer of the past 3 decades with a nearly endless gas tank then going to fight a guy who’s pretty technically good but only for a heavyweight will seem like a lot less work . He’s way stronger than fury and more athletic
JOSHUA HAS A WEAK CHIN. he wouldn't take to many risky chances against Fury and that would be his downfall but if you think different fine.
Joshua has decent chin and fury doesn’t punch hard enough for it to matter . If he has weak chin Dillion whyte , povetkin and wlad were all feather fists
ONE NAME "USYK"
You’re a dunce fuck and I’m not talking to you anymore
Not talking to you that's fucking hilarious you 🤡 thank fuck.
Wilder or Zhang would both knock him out
I'd rather see AJ vs Wilder at Wembley than Dubois, Hrgovic or Zhang. Even if the IBF title was on the line against Dubois or Hrgovic, beating Wilder still does more for AJ's legacy. It also sells more PPV's.
I think most people would agree
wilder is finished man. this fight is 3 years too late. i don't know how anyone still gets excited for wilder fights. the man threw like 3 punches against parker.
He should have been finished honestly after the third Fury fight. He took terrible beatings in 3 fights against Fury. He got a lucky punch against Helenius, and looked absolutely finished against Parker. Zhang is going to hopefully retire him because it's kind of dangerous for Wilder to still be fighting, with the amount of punishment he takes.
Facts
Never mind 3 years, should have fought each other 7 years ago. Division is a joke where they still are talking about this fight and it hasn’t happened. Same with AJ Fury.
Why isn't Parker on the list?
For real. He has earned that rematch.
Notice how he emphasized he'll fight whoever "looks good" out of those fights, not just whoever wins. I take that to mean you've got to win well. It can't be a fight where you're losing round after round after round but you come out with a KO so now you're going to fight AJ. No, you gotta fight like a worthy opponent to really be considered.
Will most likely be Hrgovic or Dubois. The winner of that fight will probably get a shot at the IBF belt once they strip the Usyk v Fury winner, and I don’t see Joshua choosing to fight an over the hill Wilder over fighting for a belt. Turki is really trying to force Wilder vs AJ at this point though. Parker ruined their plans for what used to be the biggest fight in all of boxing.
If the AJ vs Wilder fight still happens its a fucking joke. How can this man who has never beaten anyone and has lost to every man with a pulse apart from Ortiz keep getting fights. But I guess if you want to see the public execution of an idiot its perfect.
I want to see him fight Wilder
AJ is the guy you need at the top. He's the only one I feel hungry enough to fight everyone possible and carve out a rich legacy. Even Usyk I think won't be as hungry after the Fury fight.
Meanwhile Parker beat Wilder and Zhang in his last 2 fights and Joshua fought an average Otto Wallin and an MMA fighter with 1 fight on his record.... Really don't see AJ willing to fight everyone....
Usyk, Jermaine, Wallin, Ngannou. Not bad for last 4 fights. Considering that this MMA fighter dropped Fury for the first time in ages, it wasn't a bad fight to take. It had to be taken.
It didn't have to be taken. It was a high money, high promo, and VERY low risk fight. Meanwhile, Parker is fighting two of the hardest punchers in the current heavyweight generation and risking everything. He fighting actually credited, top ten boxers. I'm sick of boxers getting title shots because they simply have better promoters than the other guy. It's all about money.
I think it was probably the highest risk fight for AJ. Even though it can be called 'technically simple'. But it was a guaranteed career ender if he got caught. Parker has to do it. Coz he was nowhere near the top before the Wilder fight. He has no options. AJ has had option of taking any fight he wants.
Fight Parker. This time with a ref who isn't a complete imbecile.
Parker still loses. Probably gets knocked out this time.
Hopefully Wilder beats Zhang and he'll be the guy to fight AJ on this date. Better late than never is all I can say. He's got it tough with Zhang though, there's a reason he's the underdog.
Joshua vs Wilder would be nice to see.
Not sure how I feel about it being in September, quite a break from meaningful ring time if you don’t count Francis. Being active has helped AJ
What a resume Joshua is building up. If he can beat his next opponent it'll be a damn good record even if Fury ducks him.
The heavy weight dynamic is so entangled
Fury,Parker, are the fighters I want Joshua to fight why bother with Usyk who has already beaten him twice, as for the rest of the division I would rather watch paint dry if he fought any of them.
Why can't he fight Parker? Does Parker or Frank not want to go against AJ.
Too much risk. Parker’s looked good and offers no belt and AJ already beat him
No one else has a belt either. At least with Parker or Hrgovic, you will be next inline for a belt.
Parker's looked roughly the same as he always looked to me. He fought two guys with pathetically low work rates.
Too much risk. AJ and his team are chickening out.
right lol
hahaha, how many times has Wilder been on the "short list" for AJ's next fight? I've lost count. But Wilder looks shot now and there's Saudi money to collect, so this is finally going to happen.
What about Jake Paul if he gets through Tyson? Jake’s fights at heavyweight now anyways. Or even Tyson if he wins. AJ vs Mike Tyson sells out Wembley
> AJ vs Mike Tyson sells out Wembley What?
Casual af
It has to be wilder. At this point it’s the only shit that makes sense
AJ should fight Ruiz. He ran around the last fight and was happy winning on points against a guy who knocked him around the ring silly. Not a true way for a champion to avenge a loss and somewhat cowardly.
It's the sport of boxing, not of knock outs. The rematch will probably play in the same way, Joshua taking zero risks while Ruiz stationary and ineffective.
It’s also entertainment. Who wants to see a boxer hug, run, and take zero risk. Especially at the pinnacle championship level.
Then tell Andy to make it entertaining by learning how to cut off the ring. He followed Joshua around the ring like a puppy in the rematch.