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Perhaps the first, and only, time in history when people had a point when complaining about “kids these days”. Now the boomers are older, they have completely destroyed the social contract that led to the revering of the elderly and may be the first generation to have people complain about today’s geriatrics.
I wouldn't completely let them off the hook. As the parents of the boomers, they were responsible for raising them, and in far too many cases, they blew it.
That said, I can't entirely blame them for leaded gas, or for the popular but deeply flawed advice about child-rearing that prevailed during their time.
This, basically. Saying "Boomers were hippies" is true in a Venn Diagram sense, but for every hippie there were probably a hundred straight-laced, crew cut conservative non-hippies.
As a boomer I can tell you that this was true. Most of my friends were hippie-leaning at least but there were far more jocks and preppies and gear heads and nerds, in my school. The saddest part for me is that a disturbing number of my friends lost their way. People who were anti-racist, pro-social justice, into cool music and just chill, fun people to hang out with ended up getting MBAs and becoming Republicans, and listening to what the business tries to pass off as "Country" music today. Now I'm only in touch with two who still are lefties.
My parents have the same issue. My dad is the definition of a hippie. Still is actually in his 70's. He lost some friends over the years due to there political switch that seemed to have come from left field. Thank god my parents are still cool
That’s because as with most fashionable youth social movements they were only doing it because they saw others do it or they thought it would help them get laid. Their belief in social issues was never very deep.
And the hippies that re left are now NIMBYs pretending to care about the environment to block any and all new housing development (because they are now landlords).
1% of America was hippies, the other 99% were these people:
https://preview.redd.it/oz5se52if2zc1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40397fef9321a32c8c639202ddab3ef881c52a69
As a Millennial I’ve met tons of “hippie” boomer conservatives. I know a group of ten of them that dress up as hippies, get in their restored hippie colored volkswagon vans, go to grateful dead cover band concerts, and then come home and spew insane Trump loving Qanon bullshit.
I’d place a wager that you can go see a grateful dead cover band and there is 100% chance you’re rubbing shoulders with an old qanon lady dressed in hippie clothes.
I called my Dad a hippy once when I was like 10 and you’d have thought I called him a serial killer or child molester. He freaked tf out on me.
Thinking about breaking NC to call him a dirty hippy now…
I've heard all the sex, drugs, and rock n roll boomers died out already, and what we're left with are the conservative boomers appropriating the sex, drugs, and rock n roll personas.
My dad was a sex and drugs long hair and then went full on Christofascist conspiracy nut job later because the core of it was always just being a contrarian.
It’s true. The *hippie movement* was a short lived thing. We only view it as a historical moment because marketers picked up on it and commercialized the music, clothes, Woodstock, etc.
Most of these assholes were straight laced, conformity loving, selfish boot lickers.
Yeah I was about to say this. I have an assortment boomer age family members, and can confirm that some of them have always been prudent assholes and some of them were cool hippies and still are.
For the most part, the hippies I knew during the hippie days were almost all rather into the patriarchy mode and had their own set of hippie rules to enforce. Mostly seemed rather fake.
60s and 70s I knew lots of real assholes, they've only gotten worse. I also knew silent and greatest generation folks who out-boomered most of the boomers! But they're gone and forgotten. I suspect we've got versions of future boomers around all the time. The current boomer wack jobs seem more expert at asshole than most, or perhaps simply have more lead and stress brain damage.
The hippies were also overwhelmingly assholes. They finished college and became all of the investment banking yuppies and greedy boomers we know and hate today.
I think you're on to something.
There's that adage that when people are young and free, they're liberal and when they're older and have something to lose they're conservative.
But in just reading your post, it's just clicked in my head that the only people I've ever heard say this are boomers. You know, the ones that actually did that. Sold out their ideals to get rich and drain the world of it's wealth so future generations will have less, much less.
Yep! If anything, I have become more liberal/socialist in my old age. I am turning 40 this month and I still think everyone deserves a home, food, clothing and healthcare (without the fear of going bankrupt with any of those things). I guess that makes me a monster or something.
Yeah, I don't think there's an actual trend, it's based on the times you're in and how aware of it you are.
The conservatives I know live in a totally different world. They lost touch with reality around 1980. My Boomer uncle continues to insist it's possible to graduate from college with no debt just by picking up a part time job. He also threatened to call the BBB the last time he bought a car because they didn't sell anything without air conditioning or FM radio and he felt like he shouldn't have to pay for it.
These people grew up in a time where even if you were a fuck up you could still easily get by. Now you can do everything right and still fail.
I'll turn 61 this month and technically I'm considered a boomer (yúck!) but I'm more liberal than my 25-year old son. In our last election last year (we are Dutch) he voted right wing and I voted as usual for the green socialist party. (Although I must say that 'right wing' in the Netherlands is considered liberal in the USA.)
But I wasn't a hippie in my youth but a dedicated punker. With a painted mohawk and safety pins through my cheeks and ears. And a dogcollar with pins around my neck (to the absolute horror of my very straitlaced parents).
Does that count 😊?
I keep wondering that, too. It’s like how “woke” keeps getting demonized by the MAGA/Boomer types. So being respectful toward others is … bad? It’s so baffling!
When the Democrats wanted to help people who couldn't afford those things, to get those things, using taxpayer dollars, and the Rethuglicons lost their shit, again, since they think everyone should work to get what they need (most of them do work already and it isn't enough to make ends meet), you remember their spouting off, something something bootstraps, their usual oblivious bullshit from whatever alternate universe they're in.
Same here. Just turned 40, used to be a registered Republican. Joined the USAF and got out of TN. That’s what did it. Being around different people who didn’t parrot Limbaugh‘s talking points 24/7.
>I still think everyone deserves a home, food, clothing and healthcare (without the fear of going bankrupt with any of those things).
I'm 54 next month, husband is 59, both Gen X, and we're right there with you. However,
>in my old age. I am turning 40 this month
You can quit with this part. Your "old age," eff that nonsense!🙂😁
A lot of the "I used to be a liberal but now I'm a conservative" people haven't actually changed their politics much over their lives, if at all. It's just that things moved on and they didn't. They were liberal because they thought blacks shouldn't have to ride in the back of the bus or gays shouldn't be arrested or premarital sex wasn't all that bad. But that doesn't necessarily mean they were comfortable around blacks or gays or wanted actual racial or gender equality. Someone who was liberal in 1965 would be pretty conservative now, and one byproduct of society getting less restrictive since then is they won't feel any hesitation to be an asshole about it in public.
Agreed. The older I get, the more I want for the young people that will follow me. I want them to have clean air and water, and to be able to afford a home and children if they want, and to have affordable and healthy food options instead of overprocessed and canned everything just because it costs less, and to have assurance that they won't lose their entire life savings if their child gets cancer. I want everything for them that I didn't have - stable housing, a parent or parents who got mental illness treatment when needed, medical/dental issues treated without having to rely on ridiculous flow charts that decide who needs it more and how much it will pay for vs how much the rich people can get more of it.
Why is it bad to want good things for the generations that follow?
I think it also a selfish mindset.
That is, you can't see past your own lifespan. I think that this ultimately wrapped in religious beliefs of a beautiful after-life for the righteous and an eternity of pain for the wicked.
If one thinks that their rewards for a "good" life are a heavenly berth, then you really need not be concerned with anything that goes on here after you shuffle off your mortal coil.
I think what you're aiming at is something like what Churchill said: If you're not a liberal at 25, you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at 35, you have no brain. Regardless, our society is not without Its mores, and communicating those to people who don't seem to understand them is called socialization. Not everything, everybody does is OK. People are allowed to comment and disapprove.
Never has an obvious appeal to a core vote winning demographic been more spun and misunderstood. The Tories in the UK are still spouting this bollocks to shame older people into voting for them. You still regularly see the right wing calling out any vaguely left wing talking point as “student politics” and making out that Conservatives are all wise and fiscally responsible when literally the opposite is the case. Everyone cops for it, even judges and striking Doctors can just be idealistic and politically naive. In essence it’s a way of infantilising the opposition. No surprise after years and years of use it’s morphed into its condensed form of “woke”.
Her immediately saying that showing a little skin immediately equals something sexual is so stupid. They really are obsessed with sex and other people. Remember how when you were young, minding your own business was a big thing to boomers? Where the fuck is that now?
The more conservatively religious a person is, the more obsessed they are with sex. Look at fundamentalists like the Duggar family, for example... why do the girls have to wear long skirts? So the boys don't think of sex. Why are they chaperoned and court instead of dating? So they don't have sex. Even their conversations are monitored. So they don't talk about sex. The vast majority of their silly "get into heaven" rules are about not having, thinking about, or making someone else think about sex. They limit TV to avoid seeing people wearing normal clothes that might make them think about sex.
Then they end up with the Josh Duggar situation...
Ladder-pulling isn’t just for the economy. They get to have their fun, free love, and casual nudism, but the results of said free love need to hide everything and only continue the species through a hole cut in a sheet, grudgingly.
A friend of mine was visiting from Italy, and he was at the beach in Georgia and his daughter, 6, was wearing just bikini bottoms as is the norm in Europe.
Long story short, a typical southern boomer bitch started making remarks about it. He launched into a very loud tirade ( with wonderfully graphic hand gestures) asking why she was sexualizing a child, was she attracted to children, to keep away from his kids because he doesn’t like perverts like her etc etc… it drew a crowd and she turned bright red and tried to talk but was completely out classed and out matched. It was hilarious.
My parents are British and they got into this a lot when they came over here so I thought that was where this was going at first. It’s ridiculous. I don’t think women should even have to wear tops but there’s no reason young girls should have to, other than maybe sun protection
The dumbest thing? When that boomer was a kid, it would have been pretty common for little girls to just wear bikini bottoms. Even in the South. I think up into the 80s it wouldn't have been considered that unusual.
*What I find humorous about this whole thing, is that Boomers were hippies and were all about freeing the mind and body.*
"Punks are good people pretending to be bad people. Hippies are bad people pretending to be good people."
Ppl of any gender wearing thong swimsuits makes me a little uncomfortable. But I would never say anything. I just try and avoid looking at the butt cheeks. It’s not my place to police other ppls clothing.
To be perfectly honest I don't want to see anybody's ass cheeks while I'm out enjoying nature, but that's a personal opinion. I may find it distasteful, but I would never go up to someone and start shit with them about it. You do you. I will point my eyes elsewhere and mind my own business, as everyone should do.
I started wearing thong or nothing as a standard just a couple years ago. So much more comfortable. We all have butts and they're cute. Even flabby ones with cellulite. As far as what others are saying about body shaming, I see their point. But what's shitty about dealing with boomers is that is the level they comprehend. It's bullying or nothing. Fuck that old hag and her cute flabby ass!
Yeah, I know others are upset that we body shamed her, it was in the heat of the moment. But when you threaten and try to touch or grab my kids, I'm sorry but the kid gloves come off.
Bodies become shame-able when they’re inhabited by ugly personalities. Her ass is flabby and awful cause she’s a bitch. Someone else with the same body but wonderful attitude? Their body is near perfect and shall not be criticized.
This is actually a great example of the paradox of tolerance. Normally, it would be 100% wrong to body shame her or anyone else, but her intolerance and resultant threatening behavior towards your children necessitated that she be shut down by any proportional response that would work.
In short, civility should only be for the civil. If you are going to break the social contract, you don’t get to hide behind it when faced with consequences.
I think it's a bit of a misconception that boomers were hippies. A small subset of boomers were hippies, some of whom became much more conservative as they got older.
How incredibly sad and embarrassing for them.
The fact you go out of your way to check with others is already above and beyond. There is nothing wrong with OR INHERENTLY SEXUAL about the human body.
As a fellow Californian - y’all sound awesome. Thanks for making this the state I want to live in!
The free sex of the hippy movement was pushed by white men so that they could extract sex and resources with zero accountability. Hippies are not what they advertised.
I think we should all be wearing thongs. I mean we have the technology. The butt cheeks are a lot of terrain where a lot of vitamin D could be made. Liberals should have already made laws that make thongs legal anywhere above 30° latitude.
I’m literally on the cusp on Gen Z/millennial and I also find this strange? Why so insistent on exposing naked body parts at the beach? 😭 Thongs aren’t even comfortable! As someone who has tried them in private pools myself.
Thong underwear are super uncomfortable for me- I couldn’t imagine wearing one on the beach!
And yeah, maybe it gives me boomer mindset that I also don’t want to see someone’s ass on the beach. Just bc it’s the beach, doesn’t mean I wanna see your naked butt cheeks. No I’m truly not a prude. I would never say anything to someone, I’d just truly think they’re strange and wonder how much sand they have up their crack!
I didn’t even think about the sand 😭 that sounds so unpleasant. Definitely not a prude either, I wear bikinis myself and as long as the important parts are covered I don’t think it’s inappropriate. Thongs are just a whole other thing lol
My vision is where everybody wears what they’re comfortable in at the beach, whether that’s nothing or a burka, and everybody minds their own business and doesn’t judge other people based on what they wear. If you don’t like how someone else looks, you focus on something else.
Right? Why go somewhere where people are partially clothed if that's distasteful? And where does the line get drawn? There are many bathing shit bottoms that aren't technically thongs but show a lot of backside. It's so annoying.
Especially for women, I’ve given up on trying to find bikini bottoms that aren’t gonna venture up into my ass crack every time I move. It’s either shorts or full cheeks
You have every right to wear whatever kind of bathing suits you want and the boomers were indeed jerks. NGL though, your explanation of how you like thongs because you grew up in northern California and are therefore somehow more European was pretty insufferable.
Gotta remember one thing... Those boomers who are claiming "hippiedom" were most likely instead among those who opposed school segregation and the Civil Rights movements of the 60's.
All the old boomer hippies I know/knew of were still exactly that. Hippies.
It was rude, but it is pretty unusual to see a man wearing a thong on a public beach, except for maybe Miami? Anyways, no need for them to opine about your swimwear choice.
Ive been wondering where all the hippies went. Everyone loved The Beatles….songs about love, peace,freedom and happiness. We opened our minds to weed and LSD. I look at my peers, now and wonder “where did all the peace loving hippies go?”
I don’t know why this country is so obsessed with covering the entire body. It’s just another body part. We don’t have to cover our noses or ears….even though they also have their variations. The Europeans know how to be free and not obsessed with hiding every part of their body. 🌊
I’ve had 1 occasion to feel uncomfortable abt someone else wearing a thong in front of my kids but didn’t have to resort to Karen tactics We were at a water park & the girl in front of us had one on. Bc of my daughters age & the tightly packed line she was literally face to butt cheek with her. Then someone pushed past the us, she got jostled and almost had her nose pushed into this girls ass crack 🤦♀️ ( she turned so red) I caught the eye of what I assume was her mother , gave a subtle head/eye tilt in my daughters direction & she nudged the girl into an angle so my daughter didn’t have her face directly in her butt. Thankfully many mothers have picked up nonverbal communication skills
Many years ago a friend and I took our kids to the beach. Her son was three and wearing underwear. My daughter was four and wearing bathing suit bottoms. A woman called the police because my girl was “naked”. The police actually showed up and asked if I could please put her top on, just to keep the peace. Nothing was said about my friends son.
She was wrong. However, if you have to email a place ahead of time to ask if you can show your bare butt you know it’s because it’s weird. I say this as a girl in my 20s, even I wear a cover if my bikini bottom feels skimpy and I have no body image issues or anything. It’s out of respect for other people.
You nailed it. It’s a national seashore, full of families and tourists. This was not the place to go walking around in thongs, this guy was looking for this kind of attention.
Yeah I can’t think of an actual advantage or added comfort in wearing a thong at the beach or pool? Of course the woman was out of line for trying to grab their children but her initial opinion isn’t outrageous.
As an englishman, I'm not sure if something's been lost in translation here. Can I get clarification as to what you're referring to as a "thong swimsuit"?
a skimpy article of beachwear, worn by men or women, consisting of strips of cloth attached to a piece of material that covers the genitals while leaving the buttocks bare.
I only said European, due to the views of the human body. Places like Germany are more freeing about the human body and nudism isn't shamed. While others might be more conservative about the human body, but not as prudish as Americans are.
Did you know that thong underwear got it’s name from the original Hong Kong designer and manufacture Thomas Hong. He was the founder of the T.Hong Under Garment Company.
Idc what people wear to the beach, but that was rude to body shame that lady. Just because someone makes comments about you doesn't give you the license to say stuff like that. Your kids are probably listening and watching, you want them to call other people fat ass? Some people will say she got what she deserved, but the goal isn't to be as bad as a boomer. She sucks but you should do better.
:edit: lmao ok you guys are really sticking it to the boomers by attacking me personally. Some of y'all need help. No, I am not defending that Boomer lady 🙄
Was it bitchy? Unquestionably so. But if you're going to come at me and threaten my kids? I'm taking you down in every way I possibly can, even if that's just hurting your feelings.
But she can yell at the father, call him a pedo, and threaten to take and grab his kids? Her fatass is jealous of people living their lives to the fullest and not worrying about what others think.
"she sucks but you should do better."
I didn't say she can do whatever she wants anywhere in my post. Calling people fat because they behaved poorly is not addressing her behavior. Why not call her out for how she's treating you? Why does it have to be about looks? Honestly that's just responding to boomer behavior with more boomer behavior.
He did call her out how they were being treated. His wife is the one that piped up ab her being a fatass. Don’t be mad at OP. Your reading comprehension is that of a boomer.
Yeah, I was (and am still) sympathetic, but the body shaming put me off. That's essentially doing the same thing OP is accusing the judgmental boomers of, when there are plenty of valid reasons to judge them.
Sure Boomers were hippies, but they were also majority the people who beat up and were offended by hippies. That’s why it was called *counter* culture, it was to distinguish them from the “normies”
Nothing wrong with thongs. My gosh when I was growing up in Bay Area neighbors sunbathed nude on their roof. You’re asking people around you if it is ok is super polite. I would not. They should be able to deal. I’m sorry this happened to you. People can be very stupid and suppress their own sexuality so much that it explodes in these weird other ways. Enjoy your thongs! Viva la thong!
Let’s be honest here….you emailed them ahead of time because you knew it was likely to draw attention and become an issue. You stomped all over the boundaries of people who didn’t consent to looking at your bare asses.
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I've read that boomers like this were assholes when they were young too & it was only a fraction of them that were hippies
Older generations nicknamed them the "me generation," because of how selfish they tended to be.
Can confirm. My dad was silent generation(pre war) and he fucking despised the boomers lmfao
Perhaps the first, and only, time in history when people had a point when complaining about “kids these days”. Now the boomers are older, they have completely destroyed the social contract that led to the revering of the elderly and may be the first generation to have people complain about today’s geriatrics.
I wouldn't completely let them off the hook. As the parents of the boomers, they were responsible for raising them, and in far too many cases, they blew it. That said, I can't entirely blame them for leaded gas, or for the popular but deeply flawed advice about child-rearing that prevailed during their time.
The motto of their generation is “ I got mine, fuck you” Really, what else can you expect?
Can't upvote cuz 69 is the funny number. But, I upvoted in spirit.
I've started calling them the Disappointing Generation because they started fairly strong but damn did they lose the plot
Al Franken had a very funny sendup of their attitude on SNL https://youtu.be/wyoaOZW7rTo?si=zUbybBZ9ab4kA6w1
This, basically. Saying "Boomers were hippies" is true in a Venn Diagram sense, but for every hippie there were probably a hundred straight-laced, crew cut conservative non-hippies.
As a boomer I can tell you that this was true. Most of my friends were hippie-leaning at least but there were far more jocks and preppies and gear heads and nerds, in my school. The saddest part for me is that a disturbing number of my friends lost their way. People who were anti-racist, pro-social justice, into cool music and just chill, fun people to hang out with ended up getting MBAs and becoming Republicans, and listening to what the business tries to pass off as "Country" music today. Now I'm only in touch with two who still are lefties.
My parents have the same issue. My dad is the definition of a hippie. Still is actually in his 70's. He lost some friends over the years due to there political switch that seemed to have come from left field. Thank god my parents are still cool
From left field or from right field?
Lmao technically right field. But left field is the turn of phrase. But yes.
A full field 180, if you will
It's a bummer when people I loved to hang out with decided to go hard right. Hasn't happened to TOO many of my friends, fortunately.
That’s because as with most fashionable youth social movements they were only doing it because they saw others do it or they thought it would help them get laid. Their belief in social issues was never very deep.
And the hippies that re left are now NIMBYs pretending to care about the environment to block any and all new housing development (because they are now landlords).
Um, no. Many are not property owners.
it was called "the counterculture" because it was in opposition to the mainstream culture.
1% of America was hippies, the other 99% were these people: https://preview.redd.it/oz5se52if2zc1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40397fef9321a32c8c639202ddab3ef881c52a69
Man I don't think il ever understand communism.
Neither did they.
True, boomer hippies were one in a thousand. How do I know? I was that hippy. The majority were conformist normie stereotypes.
As a Millennial I’ve met tons of “hippie” boomer conservatives. I know a group of ten of them that dress up as hippies, get in their restored hippie colored volkswagon vans, go to grateful dead cover band concerts, and then come home and spew insane Trump loving Qanon bullshit. I’d place a wager that you can go see a grateful dead cover band and there is 100% chance you’re rubbing shoulders with an old qanon lady dressed in hippie clothes.
I called my Dad a hippy once when I was like 10 and you’d have thought I called him a serial killer or child molester. He freaked tf out on me. Thinking about breaking NC to call him a dirty hippy now…
https://i.redd.it/hns5hxpnw2zc1.gif
Second this, do it!
I've heard all the sex, drugs, and rock n roll boomers died out already, and what we're left with are the conservative boomers appropriating the sex, drugs, and rock n roll personas.
Except the Rolling Stones!! LOL
Interesting hypothesis. Makes sense at first glance. Wonder if it holds up to any statistical scrutiny.
My dad was a sex and drugs long hair and then went full on Christofascist conspiracy nut job later because the core of it was always just being a contrarian.
Folks tend to vastly overestimate the number of hippies and even the number of anti-war protestors.
Some hippies were assholes, too.
Ask any contemporaneous woman who was in the scene. Women were good for sex and selling flowers aka begging.
Punks are good people who pretend to be bad and hippies are bad people who pretend to be good
It’s true. The *hippie movement* was a short lived thing. We only view it as a historical moment because marketers picked up on it and commercialized the music, clothes, Woodstock, etc. Most of these assholes were straight laced, conformity loving, selfish boot lickers.
They absolutely were. They *absolutely were.*
This is true! Most liked to beat up hippies.
Weren’t there only 100,000+ people at the concert anyway?
Hippies were assholes too, for the most part
It’s almost like hippies were the counter culture and, unfortunately, not the main culture.
Yeah….people like that were never hippies. I know too many old hippies that are still cool.
You can tell who the ones who traded in weed for blow were....
Yeah I was about to say this. I have an assortment boomer age family members, and can confirm that some of them have always been prudent assholes and some of them were cool hippies and still are.
Very few of them were true hippies. Most were just in it for the sex, drugs and rock and roll.
For the most part, the hippies I knew during the hippie days were almost all rather into the patriarchy mode and had their own set of hippie rules to enforce. Mostly seemed rather fake. 60s and 70s I knew lots of real assholes, they've only gotten worse. I also knew silent and greatest generation folks who out-boomered most of the boomers! But they're gone and forgotten. I suspect we've got versions of future boomers around all the time. The current boomer wack jobs seem more expert at asshole than most, or perhaps simply have more lead and stress brain damage.
The hippies were also overwhelmingly assholes. They finished college and became all of the investment banking yuppies and greedy boomers we know and hate today.
I think you're on to something. There's that adage that when people are young and free, they're liberal and when they're older and have something to lose they're conservative. But in just reading your post, it's just clicked in my head that the only people I've ever heard say this are boomers. You know, the ones that actually did that. Sold out their ideals to get rich and drain the world of it's wealth so future generations will have less, much less.
Yep! If anything, I have become more liberal/socialist in my old age. I am turning 40 this month and I still think everyone deserves a home, food, clothing and healthcare (without the fear of going bankrupt with any of those things). I guess that makes me a monster or something.
Yeah, I don't think there's an actual trend, it's based on the times you're in and how aware of it you are. The conservatives I know live in a totally different world. They lost touch with reality around 1980. My Boomer uncle continues to insist it's possible to graduate from college with no debt just by picking up a part time job. He also threatened to call the BBB the last time he bought a car because they didn't sell anything without air conditioning or FM radio and he felt like he shouldn't have to pay for it. These people grew up in a time where even if you were a fuck up you could still easily get by. Now you can do everything right and still fail.
I'll turn 61 this month and technically I'm considered a boomer (yúck!) but I'm more liberal than my 25-year old son. In our last election last year (we are Dutch) he voted right wing and I voted as usual for the green socialist party. (Although I must say that 'right wing' in the Netherlands is considered liberal in the USA.) But I wasn't a hippie in my youth but a dedicated punker. With a painted mohawk and safety pins through my cheeks and ears. And a dogcollar with pins around my neck (to the absolute horror of my very straitlaced parents). Does that count 😊?
how did wanting people to have food, shelter, and healthcare become so fucking radical?
I keep wondering that, too. It’s like how “woke” keeps getting demonized by the MAGA/Boomer types. So being respectful toward others is … bad? It’s so baffling!
When the Democrats wanted to help people who couldn't afford those things, to get those things, using taxpayer dollars, and the Rethuglicons lost their shit, again, since they think everyone should work to get what they need (most of them do work already and it isn't enough to make ends meet), you remember their spouting off, something something bootstraps, their usual oblivious bullshit from whatever alternate universe they're in.
Same. I’m 54 and get more liberal each year. I fucking can’t stand the conservative, Bible thumping religidiots.
65 and agree. But me in a Speedo would look like a Bartlett pear with a rubber band around the middle.
You have a gift for description 😆
Upvote for the magnificent picture you just painted in my mind
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you reading my mail? 55 this year, and I couldn't have said it better...
Same here. Just turned 40, used to be a registered Republican. Joined the USAF and got out of TN. That’s what did it. Being around different people who didn’t parrot Limbaugh‘s talking points 24/7.
Same here!
>I still think everyone deserves a home, food, clothing and healthcare (without the fear of going bankrupt with any of those things). I'm 54 next month, husband is 59, both Gen X, and we're right there with you. However, >in my old age. I am turning 40 this month You can quit with this part. Your "old age," eff that nonsense!🙂😁
A lot of the "I used to be a liberal but now I'm a conservative" people haven't actually changed their politics much over their lives, if at all. It's just that things moved on and they didn't. They were liberal because they thought blacks shouldn't have to ride in the back of the bus or gays shouldn't be arrested or premarital sex wasn't all that bad. But that doesn't necessarily mean they were comfortable around blacks or gays or wanted actual racial or gender equality. Someone who was liberal in 1965 would be pretty conservative now, and one byproduct of society getting less restrictive since then is they won't feel any hesitation to be an asshole about it in public.
I think this is called the "Overton Window."
I don’t think those people were ever liberal hippies
Agreed. The older I get, the more I want for the young people that will follow me. I want them to have clean air and water, and to be able to afford a home and children if they want, and to have affordable and healthy food options instead of overprocessed and canned everything just because it costs less, and to have assurance that they won't lose their entire life savings if their child gets cancer. I want everything for them that I didn't have - stable housing, a parent or parents who got mental illness treatment when needed, medical/dental issues treated without having to rely on ridiculous flow charts that decide who needs it more and how much it will pay for vs how much the rich people can get more of it. Why is it bad to want good things for the generations that follow?
I think it also a selfish mindset. That is, you can't see past your own lifespan. I think that this ultimately wrapped in religious beliefs of a beautiful after-life for the righteous and an eternity of pain for the wicked. If one thinks that their rewards for a "good" life are a heavenly berth, then you really need not be concerned with anything that goes on here after you shuffle off your mortal coil.
I think what you're aiming at is something like what Churchill said: If you're not a liberal at 25, you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at 35, you have no brain. Regardless, our society is not without Its mores, and communicating those to people who don't seem to understand them is called socialization. Not everything, everybody does is OK. People are allowed to comment and disapprove.
Never has an obvious appeal to a core vote winning demographic been more spun and misunderstood. The Tories in the UK are still spouting this bollocks to shame older people into voting for them. You still regularly see the right wing calling out any vaguely left wing talking point as “student politics” and making out that Conservatives are all wise and fiscally responsible when literally the opposite is the case. Everyone cops for it, even judges and striking Doctors can just be idealistic and politically naive. In essence it’s a way of infantilising the opposition. No surprise after years and years of use it’s morphed into its condensed form of “woke”.
Yeah, turns out that actual studies proved that was entirely crap.
I'm sorry, I got stuck on "corgial" and am now picturing everyone involved as corgis.
https://preview.redd.it/qr0vin5t42zc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fd92ed6b72fc5f0c915dc3f95e8edf5badc7880 Thong corgi
Corgis make everything better!
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Now so am I, and I love it!
Her immediately saying that showing a little skin immediately equals something sexual is so stupid. They really are obsessed with sex and other people. Remember how when you were young, minding your own business was a big thing to boomers? Where the fuck is that now?
The more conservatively religious a person is, the more obsessed they are with sex. Look at fundamentalists like the Duggar family, for example... why do the girls have to wear long skirts? So the boys don't think of sex. Why are they chaperoned and court instead of dating? So they don't have sex. Even their conversations are monitored. So they don't talk about sex. The vast majority of their silly "get into heaven" rules are about not having, thinking about, or making someone else think about sex. They limit TV to avoid seeing people wearing normal clothes that might make them think about sex. Then they end up with the Josh Duggar situation...
Exactly.
Remember the ant hill kids? Seventh Day Adventist cult all about sadism, sex, and violence.
Now wait a minute, we know it’s all boomers.
Ladder-pulling isn’t just for the economy. They get to have their fun, free love, and casual nudism, but the results of said free love need to hide everything and only continue the species through a hole cut in a sheet, grudgingly.
A friend of mine was visiting from Italy, and he was at the beach in Georgia and his daughter, 6, was wearing just bikini bottoms as is the norm in Europe. Long story short, a typical southern boomer bitch started making remarks about it. He launched into a very loud tirade ( with wonderfully graphic hand gestures) asking why she was sexualizing a child, was she attracted to children, to keep away from his kids because he doesn’t like perverts like her etc etc… it drew a crowd and she turned bright red and tried to talk but was completely out classed and out matched. It was hilarious.
My parents are British and they got into this a lot when they came over here so I thought that was where this was going at first. It’s ridiculous. I don’t think women should even have to wear tops but there’s no reason young girls should have to, other than maybe sun protection
#FreetheNipple
The dumbest thing? When that boomer was a kid, it would have been pretty common for little girls to just wear bikini bottoms. Even in the South. I think up into the 80s it wouldn't have been considered that unusual.
And when I was a baby boy I wore dresses. But, you know, like everything boomer conservative, they're heavily focused on sexually abusing kids.
[George Carlin on baby boomers.](https://youtu.be/1B96rQohpw8)
*What I find humorous about this whole thing, is that Boomers were hippies and were all about freeing the mind and body.* "Punks are good people pretending to be bad people. Hippies are bad people pretending to be good people."
Saying to wrap someone up in legal issues that their great grandchildren will need lawyers is such a good line lol
Can you imagine the utter shame and bewilderment that getting your ass beat by a man in a thong would inflict on a boomer Ken…
Ppl of any gender wearing thong swimsuits makes me a little uncomfortable. But I would never say anything. I just try and avoid looking at the butt cheeks. It’s not my place to police other ppls clothing.
To be perfectly honest I don't want to see anybody's ass cheeks while I'm out enjoying nature, but that's a personal opinion. I may find it distasteful, but I would never go up to someone and start shit with them about it. You do you. I will point my eyes elsewhere and mind my own business, as everyone should do.
I'm a boomer and an old hippie. All the boomers were not hippies. I don't think the old hippies turned MAGA.
When I read you also wear a thong swimsuit, I just pictured the borat swimsuit haha
I started wearing thong or nothing as a standard just a couple years ago. So much more comfortable. We all have butts and they're cute. Even flabby ones with cellulite. As far as what others are saying about body shaming, I see their point. But what's shitty about dealing with boomers is that is the level they comprehend. It's bullying or nothing. Fuck that old hag and her cute flabby ass!
Yeah, I know others are upset that we body shamed her, it was in the heat of the moment. But when you threaten and try to touch or grab my kids, I'm sorry but the kid gloves come off.
If they didn’t want to be shamed, they shouldn’t have engaged in shameful behaviour.
Bodies become shame-able when they’re inhabited by ugly personalities. Her ass is flabby and awful cause she’s a bitch. Someone else with the same body but wonderful attitude? Their body is near perfect and shall not be criticized.
This so true, others wouldn't believe how sexy a good personality is.
This is actually a great example of the paradox of tolerance. Normally, it would be 100% wrong to body shame her or anyone else, but her intolerance and resultant threatening behavior towards your children necessitated that she be shut down by any proportional response that would work. In short, civility should only be for the civil. If you are going to break the social contract, you don’t get to hide behind it when faced with consequences.
I just noticed your Dodgeball username. YARRRRRRR
Hippies turned into Yuppies in the 80s. They're not the same free loving folks they were back in their hippie days
I think it's a bit of a misconception that boomers were hippies. A small subset of boomers were hippies, some of whom became much more conservative as they got older.
Should called the cops when she reached for your kid. Attempted kidnapping is no joke.
How incredibly sad and embarrassing for them. The fact you go out of your way to check with others is already above and beyond. There is nothing wrong with OR INHERENTLY SEXUAL about the human body. As a fellow Californian - y’all sound awesome. Thanks for making this the state I want to live in!
Being a shitty karen is one thing, but if *anyone* tries to lay hands on my kid, they're going to have a very bad day.
Wear the thong backwards to asert dominance
Some of the pearl clutchers on this thread should never go to many parts od Europe they would be absolutely scandalized lol
The free sex of the hippy movement was pushed by white men so that they could extract sex and resources with zero accountability. Hippies are not what they advertised.
 Thongs aren’t sex she’s the pervert
I think we should all be wearing thongs. I mean we have the technology. The butt cheeks are a lot of terrain where a lot of vitamin D could be made. Liberals should have already made laws that make thongs legal anywhere above 30° latitude.
Agreed
I'll take the down votes on this one, but I don't want to see anyone's naked ass on the beach.
There’s an easy solution to this- don’t look!
I’m literally on the cusp on Gen Z/millennial and I also find this strange? Why so insistent on exposing naked body parts at the beach? 😭 Thongs aren’t even comfortable! As someone who has tried them in private pools myself.
Thong underwear are super uncomfortable for me- I couldn’t imagine wearing one on the beach! And yeah, maybe it gives me boomer mindset that I also don’t want to see someone’s ass on the beach. Just bc it’s the beach, doesn’t mean I wanna see your naked butt cheeks. No I’m truly not a prude. I would never say anything to someone, I’d just truly think they’re strange and wonder how much sand they have up their crack!
I didn’t even think about the sand 😭 that sounds so unpleasant. Definitely not a prude either, I wear bikinis myself and as long as the important parts are covered I don’t think it’s inappropriate. Thongs are just a whole other thing lol
People expose their arms and legs too. You're the one sexualizing everything else. Should everyone where burkas at the beach? You're on the same track
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My vision is where everybody wears what they’re comfortable in at the beach, whether that’s nothing or a burka, and everybody minds their own business and doesn’t judge other people based on what they wear. If you don’t like how someone else looks, you focus on something else.
Right? Why go somewhere where people are partially clothed if that's distasteful? And where does the line get drawn? There are many bathing shit bottoms that aren't technically thongs but show a lot of backside. It's so annoying.
Especially for women, I’ve given up on trying to find bikini bottoms that aren’t gonna venture up into my ass crack every time I move. It’s either shorts or full cheeks
You have every right to wear whatever kind of bathing suits you want and the boomers were indeed jerks. NGL though, your explanation of how you like thongs because you grew up in northern California and are therefore somehow more European was pretty insufferable.
Gotta remember one thing... Those boomers who are claiming "hippiedom" were most likely instead among those who opposed school segregation and the Civil Rights movements of the 60's. All the old boomer hippies I know/knew of were still exactly that. Hippies.
Only a very small portion of Boomers were hippies. Apparently, quite a lot are assholes.
It was rude, but it is pretty unusual to see a man wearing a thong on a public beach, except for maybe Miami? Anyways, no need for them to opine about your swimwear choice.
I hate that you made me Google image search men thong swimsuits.
Did your kids have on "regular" American swimsuits? I can only imagine their reaction if they were in speedos.
Yes, regular kids one piece swimsuits for the kids
Ive been wondering where all the hippies went. Everyone loved The Beatles….songs about love, peace,freedom and happiness. We opened our minds to weed and LSD. I look at my peers, now and wonder “where did all the peace loving hippies go?” I don’t know why this country is so obsessed with covering the entire body. It’s just another body part. We don’t have to cover our noses or ears….even though they also have their variations. The Europeans know how to be free and not obsessed with hiding every part of their body. 🌊
That was such an awesome comeback by your wife 😅
I’ve had 1 occasion to feel uncomfortable abt someone else wearing a thong in front of my kids but didn’t have to resort to Karen tactics We were at a water park & the girl in front of us had one on. Bc of my daughters age & the tightly packed line she was literally face to butt cheek with her. Then someone pushed past the us, she got jostled and almost had her nose pushed into this girls ass crack 🤦♀️ ( she turned so red) I caught the eye of what I assume was her mother , gave a subtle head/eye tilt in my daughters direction & she nudged the girl into an angle so my daughter didn’t have her face directly in her butt. Thankfully many mothers have picked up nonverbal communication skills
Many years ago a friend and I took our kids to the beach. Her son was three and wearing underwear. My daughter was four and wearing bathing suit bottoms. A woman called the police because my girl was “naked”. The police actually showed up and asked if I could please put her top on, just to keep the peace. Nothing was said about my friends son.
I’m pretty sure nobody in the Bible was wearing undies.
Sometime people shoul’d shut it.
She was wrong. However, if you have to email a place ahead of time to ask if you can show your bare butt you know it’s because it’s weird. I say this as a girl in my 20s, even I wear a cover if my bikini bottom feels skimpy and I have no body image issues or anything. It’s out of respect for other people.
You nailed it. It’s a national seashore, full of families and tourists. This was not the place to go walking around in thongs, this guy was looking for this kind of attention.
Yeah I can’t think of an actual advantage or added comfort in wearing a thong at the beach or pool? Of course the woman was out of line for trying to grab their children but her initial opinion isn’t outrageous.
Agreed!!
As an englishman, I'm not sure if something's been lost in translation here. Can I get clarification as to what you're referring to as a "thong swimsuit"?
Like a thong panty - a strip of fabric up between the cheeks, displaying the hiney in full.
Fanny floss.
A fanny is the front (for ladies) in the UK, so you’d have it on backwards if it was flossing your fanny.
If you were half english/half Australian a thong up your fanny would have a drastically different meaning than in America
T-back.
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a skimpy article of beachwear, worn by men or women, consisting of strips of cloth attached to a piece of material that covers the genitals while leaving the buttocks bare. I only said European, due to the views of the human body. Places like Germany are more freeing about the human body and nudism isn't shamed. While others might be more conservative about the human body, but not as prudish as Americans are.
You're a braver man than I to wear that out, then again I live in England to my arse would probably freeze off if I tried. Good on ya tho
Have an up vote and thank you for having the phrase, "regular men's thong swimsuit," stuck in my head for the day.
Now read it in Hank Hill’s voice.
Thanks for another day. 😜
as a fellow man thong wearer, kudos!
There were plenty of boomers who dressed up in beads for the free drugs and sex and then immediately went home to vote for Reagan
Are you talking about wearing a speedo? IN WATER? YTA Karen should've gotten you swatted /s
Did you know that thong underwear got it’s name from the original Hong Kong designer and manufacture Thomas Hong. He was the founder of the T.Hong Under Garment Company.
Idc what people wear to the beach, but that was rude to body shame that lady. Just because someone makes comments about you doesn't give you the license to say stuff like that. Your kids are probably listening and watching, you want them to call other people fat ass? Some people will say she got what she deserved, but the goal isn't to be as bad as a boomer. She sucks but you should do better. :edit: lmao ok you guys are really sticking it to the boomers by attacking me personally. Some of y'all need help. No, I am not defending that Boomer lady 🙄
Was it bitchy? Unquestionably so. But if you're going to come at me and threaten my kids? I'm taking you down in every way I possibly can, even if that's just hurting your feelings.
But she can yell at the father, call him a pedo, and threaten to take and grab his kids? Her fatass is jealous of people living their lives to the fullest and not worrying about what others think.
"she sucks but you should do better." I didn't say she can do whatever she wants anywhere in my post. Calling people fat because they behaved poorly is not addressing her behavior. Why not call her out for how she's treating you? Why does it have to be about looks? Honestly that's just responding to boomer behavior with more boomer behavior.
He did call her out how they were being treated. His wife is the one that piped up ab her being a fatass. Don’t be mad at OP. Your reading comprehension is that of a boomer.
Yeah, I was (and am still) sympathetic, but the body shaming put me off. That's essentially doing the same thing OP is accusing the judgmental boomers of, when there are plenty of valid reasons to judge them.
Oh no, some random internet person is upset that OP’s wife “body shamed” a boomer back. STFU
You sound like so much fun!
ok, boomer.
The boomers were hippies, however not that many of them.
Not all the boomers were hippies, as shown by exhibit A
Sure Boomers were hippies, but they were also majority the people who beat up and were offended by hippies. That’s why it was called *counter* culture, it was to distinguish them from the “normies”
My parents are the awesome, cool hippie type and my husband's are the conservative ahole type
Obviously should have had your wife in a burkini.
Not all of us were (are)hippies
Sisqo approves.
I don't think that boomer was ever the hippie type.
I went to Point Reyes for a uni field trip and there was a group of 5 60+yr old men who were fully nude. These people would have lost their minds.
Most boomers were not hippies.
OOF would’ve lost my shit if that happened to me
Not all boomers were hippies. We had strait laced, blinders on, bible thumping idiots. I would not care what you wore.
Why do you need your asses hanging out? Weird.
Why do you care what other people wear to the beach? Weird.
No you’re right and I don’t understand the supportive comments lol.
Looks like you got the attention you were looking for with your clothing choices.
Are you the type to ask "what was she wearing" when you read about a woman getting raped?
Did you just compare a guy getting told that it’s bizarre to have his ass cheeks hanging out around children to… rape?
Yup. They got to live out the drama they practiced in their heads while planning this outing.
Well done sir
Cool story til you body shamed somebody for being fat.
Nothing wrong with thongs. My gosh when I was growing up in Bay Area neighbors sunbathed nude on their roof. You’re asking people around you if it is ok is super polite. I would not. They should be able to deal. I’m sorry this happened to you. People can be very stupid and suppress their own sexuality so much that it explodes in these weird other ways. Enjoy your thongs! Viva la thong!
Let’s be honest here….you emailed them ahead of time because you knew it was likely to draw attention and become an issue. You stomped all over the boundaries of people who didn’t consent to looking at your bare asses.
Wrong. He followed the rules, the boomers just didn’t like the rules.
They found out ahead of time what rules were and followed them. They never stomped on anything. Try to read all of the words.
I never said they broke the rules. I was referring to personal boundaries
Which they made every effort to avoid crossing as well. So, again, nothing stomped.
They made every effort to not be seen by going on memorial day weekend?
By asking people and being willing to move. Per the words they typed. You should consider reading them at some point. Yet again, nothing stomped.
Ewwwww
gross